Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on December 15, 2012 by Allahpundit

The massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., bloodiest attack of its kind in the nation’s history, stands as a possible tipping point after Washington’s decade-long aversion even to talking about stricter gun laws…

It remains to be seen whether Sandy Hook will break the usual cycle of universal shock fading into political reality. That reality is based on a combination of powerful gun lobbying and public opinion, which has shifted against tougher gun control and stayed that way. However lawmakers react this time, it’s the president’s call whether the issue fades again or takes its place alongside the legacy-shaping initiatives of his time, with all the peril that could mean for his party…

One certainty in the weeks to come is that both parties in Washington will carefully watch public opinion on gun control and the Second Amendment, and whether any impact lasts. Opposition to stricter laws has proved resilient.

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[A]dvocates of gun control say the shootings at an elementary school in Newtown might be different for two reasons: the victims were children, eliciting a gut-wrenching response across the country, and the National Rifle Association proved to be a political paper tiger in the 2012 election.

“The political atmosphere has clearly changed because now we have solid evidence that the N.R.A. just was not effective in the last election cycle,” said Kristen Rand, legislative director for the Violence Policy Center, a gun-control advocacy group. “This just has a feel that they won’t get away with doing nothing this time.”

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Pivotal players in any legislative action would be the half dozen Democratic senators up for re-election in 2014 who represent states that tend to be more protective of gun owners’ rights: Sen. Kay Hagan of North Carolina, Sen. Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Sen. Max Baucus of Montana, Sen. Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Sen. Tim Johnson of South Dakota, and Sen. Mark Begich of Alaska…

Two other Democrats also crucial to any Senate action would be Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia and senator-elect Joe Donnelly of Indiana…

Whether Obama decides that he wants to lead an effort to persuade Congress to enact new measures to limit access to guns may in part depend on how the public responds in the next week.

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Adam Lanza, the troubled nerd who turned a Connecticut school into a slaughterhouse, learned how to shoot under the watchful eye of his demanding mom Nancy.

“She said she would often go target shooting with her kids,” landscaper Dan Holmes said.

Nancy Lanza wound up being the first of her son’s 27 victims when he used one of her guns to shoot her dead.

Holmes, who often mowed the grass at the Lanza’s sprawling Newtown home, told Reuters the doomed mom was proud of her arsenal and once showed him a “high end rifle” she had just purchased.

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U.S. school districts have spent millions of dollars on metal detectors, security cameras and elaborate emergency-response plans since the 1999 massacre at Columbine High School, but almost nothing could have prevented Friday’s massacre at a Connecticut elementary school, security experts say…

Still, Bond said, there is no way for students and teachers to protect themselves when someone begins shooting with a weapon. He said even a security guard and locked doors could not have stopped the killer.

Without knowing the school’s security system, Kenneth Trump, president of consulting firm National School Safety and Security Services, stresses that schools need to be “looking for these lone wolf actors.”

“As a father, I would love to have a 100 percent guarantee that nothing bad will ever happen in my kids’ school, but as a rational school safety professional I know nobody can give me a 100 percent guarantee on safety,” said Trump.

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3) We must find a way to make it more difficult for the non-adjudicated mentally ill to come into possession of weapons. This is crucially important, but very difficult, because it would require the cooperation of the medical community — of psychiatrists, therapists, school counselors and the like — and the privacy issues (among other issues) are enormous. But: It has to be made more difficult for sociopaths, psychopaths and the otherwise violently mentally-ill (who, in total, make up a small portion of the mentally ill population) to buy weapons.

4) People should have the ability to defend themselves. Mass shootings take many lives in part because no one is firing back at the shooters. The shooters in recent massacres have had many minutes to complete their evil work, while their victims cower under desks or in closets. One response to the tragic reality that we are a gun-saturated country is to understand that law-abiding, well-trained, non-criminal, wholly sane citizens who are screened by the government have a role to play in their own self-defense, and in the defense of others (read The Atlantic article to see how one armed school administrator stopped a mass shooting in Pearl Mississippi). I don’t know anything more than anyone else about the shooting in Connecticut at the moment, but it seems fairly obvious that there was no one at or near the school who could have tried to fight back.

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Imagine that you ran a school district, and some rich foundation, worried about school shootings, gave you the following offer: We’ll hire armed security guards for you, who could try to do something about the school shooter. These aren’t going to be highly trained police officers, just typical security guards, given some modest training and subjected to basic background checks. It’s not like they’re highly skilled; security guards rarely are. But they have a basic understanding of how to shoot, and when to shoot…

But wait! The foundation has just learned that its investment portfolio has done very badly, and the grant doesn’t go through. But someone else suggests: Instead of hiring special-purpose security guards, why not take some of your existing employees — teachers, administrators, and the like — and offer them a deal: They’d go through some modest training and subjected to basic background checks, and in exchange they’d be given the right to carry the same guns that the security guards would have had…

Is there some reason why the armed security guard is safe and helpful, but the armed teacher, administrator, or staffer — er, the teacher with a volunteer security guard license — would be useless and a menace?

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The general decline in gun-related violence and the inability even of mental health professionals to identify future mass killers should be the essential starting points of any serious policy discussion generated by the absolutely horrific slaughter at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. We should also add a third starting point: Few good policies come from rapid responses to deeply felt injuries. Many of the same people who are now calling for immediate action with regard to gun control recognize that The Patriot Act, rushed through Congress in the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, was a terrible piece of legislation that ultimately did nothing to protect Americans even as it vastly expanded the state’s ability to surveil law-abiding citizens. There’s no reason to think that federal, state, or local gun control laws promulgated now would result in anything different.

If hard cases make bad laws, it’s even more true that rare crimes make terrible public policy. In a piece for Quartz, journalist Lenore Skenazy recalls that the deadliest school massacre in U.S. history took place in Michigan in 1927, when a disgruntled school-board official blew up 38 people, including himself. She writes that the real difference between now and then is the immediacy of the media, which shrinks the distance between victims and the rest of us. Even as that allows us to have more empathy for the grieving, it creates the conditions for an overreaction that will ultimately be little more than symbolic

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INC on May 13, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Yes..long time ago.
Was a big story here..locally.

Yeah.. understatement. :(

bazil9 on May 13, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Trolls shown up yet?

annoyinglittletwerp on May 13, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Sachiko on May 13, 2013 at 5:29 PM

You’re welcome.

I have another quote for you. I think I got this one from the Priests For Life site.

Nothing has been as damaging to our cause as the advances in technology which have allowed pictures of the developing fetus, because people now talk about that fetus in much different terms than they did fifteen years ago. They talk about it as a human being, which is not something that I have an easy answer how to cure.
–Harrison Hickman
–1989 conference of the National Abortion Rights Action League.

Now with Gosnell, they have no answer. Jill Stanek has been writing this year about the increasing demoralization of abortionists. That’s how much they care about making abortion “rare”—they get down about it.

INC on May 13, 2013 at 5:35 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 13, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Just you…

cozmo on May 13, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Just you…

cozmo on May 13, 2013 at 5:38 PM

I opened THAT door up, didn’t I.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 13, 2013 at 5:40 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 13, 2013 at 5:40 PM

And walked ran right into it.

cozmo on May 13, 2013 at 5:41 PM

You’re welcome.

I have another quote for you. I think I got this one from the Priests For Life site.

Nothing has been as damaging to our cause as the advances in technology which have allowed pictures of the developing fetus, because people now talk about that fetus in much different terms than they did fifteen years ago. They talk about it as a human being, which is not something that I have an easy answer how to cure.
–Harrison Hickman
–1989 conference of the National Abortion Rights Action League.

Now with Gosnell, they have no answer. Jill Stanek has been writing this year about the increasing demoralization of abortionists. That’s how much they care about making abortion “rare”—they get down about it.

INC on May 13, 2013 at 5:35 PM

I bet they hate the ability to change your profile picture to your ultrasound picture on Facebook.

cptacek on May 13, 2013 at 5:52 PM

cptacek on May 13, 2013 at 5:52 PM

William Saletan of Slate wrote an article in 2007 on the impact of technology on abortion: “The fetus is squirming, and so are we.”

Yeah, they hate it.

INC on May 13, 2013 at 5:58 PM

9 of 12 Jurors in #Gosnell Trial Are ‘Pro-Choice’ http://ow.ly/kZwUn

Resist We Much on May 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM

Somebody ask for Humpbot?

http://tinyurl.com/humpgos

jmad on May 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM

Resist We Much on May 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM

I didn’t know that. Was that when they were being asked questions prior to being seated for the trial?

“And to give you some background on the jurors, of the seven women and five men who are on the jury, at least nine told the court that they are pro-choice. Two say that they are neither pro-choice nor pro-life.”

So only one is pro-life? That’s remarkable.

I wonder what they all think now.

INC on May 13, 2013 at 6:07 PM

bazil9 on May 13, 2013 at 4:50 PM

I agree with you … and a year or 2 ago I would agree with you.
and I feel the Bible supports this because as was pointed out…
an image bearer of GOD was murdered.

but then the cold eyed accountant shows up …
paying X amount for appeals x number of years …
*sigh* …. but I agree it meets the criteria IMHO
to be a DP award ….

conservative tarheel on May 13, 2013 at 6:09 PM

9 of 12 Jurors in #Gosnell Trial Are ‘Pro-Choice’ http://ow.ly/kZwUn

Resist We Much on May 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM

Seriously?!?!?!

ladyingray on May 13, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Even if given the death penalty, he won’t die from it. Take life without parole in general population.

He’s WANTING the death penalty at this point….

ladyingray on May 13, 2013 at 6:15 PM

I’m wondering how many other denizens of abortion clinics are closely watching this unfold. I also wonder what their pucker factor is right about now.

Oldnuke on May 13, 2013 at 6:24 PM

The one image that comes to mind is the scene in the movie “Ghost”. The bad guy dies at the end, and the black shadows come to get him, and drag him away.

I hope when they come for Gosnell, he goes kicking and screaming, and has to run the gauntlet of the faces of every baby he ever butchered…all the way to Hell!

grumpy_old_soldier on May 13, 2013 at 6:26 PM

His lawyer is a piece of work.

Speaking outside the courthouse moments after the jury handed down its decision, Gosnell’s attorney Jack McMahon said he had confidence in the legal system but acknowledged that the case presented particular difficulties, including what he called “The baby factor.” McMahon also claimed the media made his job toughter: ”The media has been overwhelmingly against [Gosnell],” he told reporters.

What media was that?

Cindy Munford on May 13, 2013 at 6:39 PM

grumpy_old_soldier on May 13, 2013 at 6:26 PM

yup .. and then at the great white throne … he is brought before the King of Kings and is tried … every baby he butchered is there and testifies against him …
he is judged by his works as everything is written down … then the lambs book is opened and his name is not written down … and at this point the King of Kings pronounces sentence “depart from me into everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels!”
at this point he is picked up and cast into the lake of fire.

conservative tarheel on May 13, 2013 at 6:40 PM

9 of 12 Jurors in #Gosnell Trial Are ‘Pro-Choice’ http://ow.ly/kZwUn

Resist We Much on May 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM

Seriously?!?!?!

ladyingray on May 13, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Which tells you how truly ugly this was that even believers couldn’t turn away.

kim roy on May 13, 2013 at 6:40 PM

What media was that?

Cindy Munford on May 13, 2013 at 6:39 PM

oh come now … the throngs of reporters and tv and radio types down there
standing room only in the press area .. /s

conservative tarheel on May 13, 2013 at 6:41 PM

A just verdict. The jury has rightly convicted #Gosnell for his appalling crimes, ensuring no woman is victimized by him ever again.

PP is just as guilty as Gosnell. More guilty in fact, they have far more innocent baby blood on their hands.

Kjeil on May 13, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Silly ‘social conservatives’ ruining the party with their defense of the unborn. How many more babies do you want to save at the expense of the party!?eleventyone1one1!

LaughterJones on May 13, 2013 at 6:52 PM

PP is just as guilty as Gosnell. More guilty in fact, they have far more innocent baby blood on their hands.

Kjeil on May 13, 2013 at 6:43 PM

It’s a hollow statement by the leading, government authorized death camp in the USA.

You get to have freedoms in the USA! Just have to make it out of the womb first!

LaughterJones on May 13, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Trolls shown up yet?

annoyinglittletwerp on May 13, 2013 at 5:34 PM

.
Just you…

cozmo on May 13, 2013 at 5:38 PM
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I opened THAT door up, didn’t I.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 13, 2013 at 5:40 PM

.
And walked ran right into it.

cozmo on May 13, 2013 at 5:41 PM

.
Why do I always miss the good stuff, in real time ?

listens2glenn on May 13, 2013 at 6:57 PM

Ok, now that the trial is over, will the Exalted One comment on it?

And will anyone in the media have the temerity to actually ask him to go on record?

Forgive me. I’ve been watching political movies, where these things actually happen…

Chris of Rights on May 13, 2013 at 7:35 PM

May they now Rest in Peace

txmomof6 on May 13, 2013 at 8:00 PM

May they now Rest in Peace

txmomof6 on May 13, 2013 at 8:00 PM

Another 3,288 today, and every day in the USA.

slickwillie2001 on May 13, 2013 at 8:14 PM

A just verdict. The jury has rightly convicted #Gosnell for his appalling crimes, ensuring no woman is victimized by him ever again.

Wow, can’t even bring themselves to mention the babies.

Dongemaharu on May 13, 2013 at 9:15 PM

If the bill Obama sponsored in the Illinois legislature had passed in Pennsylvania, would Gosnell have been convicted?

As I recall, Obama wanted to decriminalize killing a baby after a botched abortion.

jya lai on May 14, 2013 at 10:54 AM

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