Hickenlooper and the 2nd amendment

posted at 8:31 am on December 15, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper took a lot of heat from fellow Democrats in the wake of the Aurora shooting tragedy for keeping a cool head and not caving to immediate demands for suppressing Second Amendment rights at a politically opportune moment. At the same time, he earned some additional credentials from conservatives for being a fairly independent minded executive. After the latest dose of mayhem from another maniac, however, the local press seemed to catch him reconsidering his position.

In a significant shift from his statements earlier this year, Gov. John Hickenlooper now says “the time is right” for Colorado lawmakers to consider further gun restrictions.

The Democratic governor made his comments in an interview with The Associated Pressthat comes less than half a year after the mass shooting in an Aurora movie theater that killed 12 and injured at least 58. His latest words also follow a shooting in an Oregon mall Tuesday that left three dead, including the gunman, who shot himself.

“I wanted to have at least a couple of months off after the shooting in Aurora to let people process and grieve and get a little space, but … I think, now … the time is right,” Hickenlooper said in the Wednesday interview.

Actually, I’ve previously maintained that this is precisely the wrong time to leap all over this. It smacks of being an opportunistic approach and capitalizes on the emotions of a grief stricken public to begin tossing out and debating gun grabbing arguments right now. But that genie is clearly out of the bottle and interesting facts are already emerging. As with previous tragedies, the sad patterns we’ve seen before are playing out yet again. The guns used by the maniac in question were legally purchased by his mother - one of the victims of the shooting – and taken without her consent. The shooter was a legal adult, apparently having no significant criminal record which would have warranted blocking his access in any event. The family seems to have had more than their share of trouble and turmoil, but that can be said of far too many families in America. Some are also reporting that the young man had a history of “mental problems” which you can also find in every corner of the nation. Friends are describing him as, “quiet and not very social,” but not giving any indication that he might be prone to violence. Unless more details prove otherwise, this was, in short, the almost completely unpredictable result of the actions of an evil madman who had given no actionable signals before his horrific assault.

Let’s stop and think for a moment about how the shooter got these guns. He took them from someone else who legally obtained them. He stole those guns. And this, of course, demonstrates yet again that those who are willing to employ guns to engage in violence aren’t going to pause and think about whether or not they should commit a robbery along the way. To stop an action like that which we witnessed yesterday you would have to eliminate the existence of guns, and we’ve all seen the figures on how well that works.

And let’s not forget that Connecticut already has some of the toughest gun laws in the country.

So is Hickenlooper caving to the pressures of the far left wing of his party? That’s not clear yet.

Reached while traveling Thursday, the governor told The Denver Post, “I don’t think I flip-flopped at all. The AP was asking, ‘Should we have that discussion (about gun restrictions)?’ I said, ‘Sure. This is not a discussion that a free, open society should be afraid of,’ ” he said.

In that respect perhaps the Governor is right, at least in terms of the timing of the conversation. Generally, conservatives urge calm and quiet after one of these random acts of domestic violence and mayhem, preferring time for empathy and prayers for the victims and those affected by the tragedy. Conversely, gun grabbers seize the moment for their own devices. (In case you missed it, Allahpundit’s Quotes of the Day last night contains a robust roundup of what the grabbers in question are saying already.) These events shouldn’t be a reason for people to shy away from defending their own freedoms, while still maintaining the proper respect and empathy for those lost. And in a free nation, we can have this type of debate, no matter how painful the circumstances.

Would it be nice to wait until the bodies were laid to rest and the tears of the mourning were dry? No doubt. But the debate will happen either way. And we shouldn’t be too quick to judge Hickenlooper in this. The real message will be delivered when we see what sort of legislation is proposed in his state in the weeks and months to come and how he responds. We should be willing to allow his actions to speak louder than his words as we continue to pray for the fallen.


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No worries. Our DC GOP geniuses in leadership will find a way to give Barry the lead again.

hawkeye54 on May 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM

Obama fatigue has set in already. For dems that is. I was tired of him just knowing who and what he was back in early 2008. Welcome to the funk libs.

DanMan on May 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM

I was tired of him just knowing who and what he was back in early 2008. Welcome to the funk libs.

Yeah, but who else do they have?

hawkeye54 on May 9, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Obama’s response: “Let me be clear — Quack! Quack!”

KS Rex on May 9, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Obama fatigue has set in already. For dems that is. I was tired of him just knowing who and what he was back in early 2008. Welcome to the funk libs.

DanMan on May 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM

What else can they “win”?

Del Dolemonte on May 9, 2013 at 6:56 PM

You missed spelled it: limp d!ck.
except when Reggie comes calling.

I want to watch the one spin out of control. Literally.

AllahsNippleHair on May 9, 2013 at 6:57 PM

In all three cases, there are more Democrats who say Republicans can do a better job than Obama

Several months late on that. Where were they last November?

GarandFan on May 9, 2013 at 6:59 PM

I don’t really have Obama fatigue right now. My frustration is with the Senate Gangbangers.

Wigglesworth on May 9, 2013 at 6:59 PM

How’s those student loan fees going? Higher rates and higher cost to go to school now that the Govt’s got the “business”? That worked out as well as RobertObamaCare, didn’t it?

Rovin on May 9, 2013 at 6:59 PM

They both suck.

And remember 42% didn’t even know ObamaCare is the law of the land as of last week.

1-20-17

PappyD61 on May 9, 2013 at 7:00 PM

Lame Duck Liar. The Benghazi Bullsh*tter. The Teleprompter Reader In Chief.
One
Big
Ass
Mistake
America

Basilsbest on May 9, 2013 at 7:01 PM

Does this just reveal how close the GOP and the rat-eared wonder are in policy?

davidk on May 9, 2013 at 7:01 PM

Joe Scarborough … check your registation

J_Crater on May 9, 2013 at 7:03 PM

Obama’s response: “Let me be clear — Quack! Quack!”

KS Rex on May 9, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Quack! Quack! Thump! Quack! Quack! Thump!

davidk on May 9, 2013 at 7:03 PM

Another worthless poll.
Bottom line is make a difference voters are the Food Stampers and other benefit receivers and they all swing Democrat…

albill on May 9, 2013 at 7:06 PM

Not bad for a leaderless party demonized by the media non stop. Now just imagine if the GOP had a spine!

Jack_Burton on May 9, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Several months late on that. Where were they last November?

GarandFan on May 9, 2013 at 6:59 PM

Circling the wagons for The One. But since he’s a lame duck, it okay to begin to consider disagreeing with Obama as Dems start to position themselves for 2016.

JimLennon on May 9, 2013 at 7:10 PM

Gun Protectors—1

Gun Grabbers —-0

canopfor on May 9, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Gun Protectors—1

Gun Grabbers —-0

canopfor on May 9, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Bravo Can!

Rovin on May 9, 2013 at 7:30 PM

Now just imagine if the GOP had a spine!

Jack_Burton on May 9, 2013 at 7:08 PM

They do have a spine. Just look how hard they are pushing “immigration” reform against the will of the people.
/

Mimzey on May 9, 2013 at 7:33 PM

I’d like to hear Johnny Carsons response as to just what kind of lame duck he is, as in ” he is so lame even Sheila Jackson Lee won’t greet him when he speaks to congress.”

tim c on May 9, 2013 at 7:50 PM

GOP now tied with or ahead of Obama on economy, immigration — and gun control

A two day old tuna sandwich could be tied with or ahead of ObamThe guy has accomplished about as much

scalleywag on May 9, 2013 at 8:03 PM

canopfor on May 9, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Bravo Can!

Rovin on May 9, 2013 at 7:30 PM

Rovin:———-:O

canopfor on May 9, 2013 at 8:11 PM

Watch “Morning Joe” any day of the week and it’s a safe bet you’ll get a lecture on how Republicans are sabotaging themselves in 2014 by alienating the centrists in their own ranks on guns.

Tell a lie often enough, loud enough… They are just trying to write the narrative hoping that if enough people believe it, it will become the truth.

deepdiver on May 9, 2013 at 8:22 PM

and now even David Frum is criticizing the schumer/rubio thing?

immigration reform must really suck bad

Unless you posit that the newly legalized immigrants will dramatically outperform the existing immigrant population, you will reach a result very like that of the Heritage Foundation: that the taxes paid by the newly legalized will not begin to equal the costs of their Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and other benefits.

oh well, Mario…here’s a clue…when Frum is off the reservation, time for you to have an ‘awakening’..and quick

http://minx.cc/?post=339838

r keller on May 9, 2013 at 8:24 PM

Lame fluck is more like it.

A bigger charlatanic thug the land never had.

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Calling him a Lame Duck isn’t right. He’s no Duck.

trigon on May 10, 2013 at 12:54 AM

Why would anyone compare the GOP’s to Obama’s on anything at this point?

Obama’s not going to be an election opponent for anyone in the GOP ever going forward.

It’s as meaningless as it would have been to compare Obama’s number’s to Bush’s numbers in 2008. Bush wasn’t running.

To quote Hillary, “What difference, at this point, does it make?”

VekTor on May 10, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Should have been “GOP’s numbers to Obama’s numbers

VekTor on May 10, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Maybe I’m missing something, but why exactly is there an excise tax on beer? Does anyone know the rationale, other than “the government wants more money”?

NorthernCross on May 12, 2013 at 8:19 PM

There is excise tax on all alcoholic beverages, but beer, wine, and distilled liquor are all licensed and tracked separately.

gryphon202 on May 12, 2013 at 8:34 PM