Video: Cavuto cuts off Dem rep when she won’t offer any spending to cut

posted at 9:21 pm on December 13, 2012 by Allahpundit

Via Politico, a media metaphor for the state of “negotiations.” There’s nothing left to say except the occasional “frank” reiteration of positions, so why go through the motions of dialogue? All that’s left is for Boehner to capitulate and then everybody goes home for Christmas.

Since there’s nothing left to say, let me offer a few poll numbers instead. Promising

…and not so promising:

Note the Republican numbers. Pew has a new poll out today too and that doesn’t look too promising either:

The killer numbers there come from independents, but the fact that even 37 percent of Republicans agree that the GOP’s not making an effort to compromise gives you a sense of who’ll be blamed by the wider public if we topple over the cliff. Not to go full eeyore on you either but here’s one that bodes badly even for the GOP’s “Plan B,” in which they simply allow the Bush tax cuts for the rich to lapse and then pound the table for major cuts in February as a condition of raising the debt ceiling:

If Boehner et al. decide to go to the wall on the debt ceiling next year, they had better get a boatload of concessions for it to make the potential fallout in 2014 worth it.

I’ll leave you with this from Philip Klein to put all of the above in perspective: “Democrats have gotten away with promoting the fantasy that the nation can balance the budget by making modest adjustments to spending while protecting 98 percent of the country from tax increases. But they won’t be able to get away with this fairy tale forever. At some point, reality will set in, and the reality is that in order to protect entitlements from major changes, Democrats will have to back massive across the board tax hikes. Let’s see how polls turn out when middle class Americans are asked whether they want to pay significantly higher taxes in order to minimize cuts to entitlement programs, or how they’ll feel when interest rates and inflation are soaring as a result of the national debt.”


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HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 10:07 PM

The talking point king. Congrats!!!

Never an original thought.

CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:11 PM

fυcking

This is allowed now?????????????????????????????

Scrumpy on May 18, 2013 at 10:07 PM

As long as HAL is allowed..
Flucking is allowed..
:)

[I guess it wasn't..I had to change the word]

Electrongod on May 18, 2013 at 10:11 PM

As the Table 1.2 shows, based on its most recent IRS data for 2009, the average tax rate (after deductions) paid by all Americans is 11 percent. It is also clear that millionaires pay an average of 25 percent, while virtually every taxpayer earning under $100,000 pays an average rate of no more than 8 percent of their income in taxes.

There are roughly 123 million taxpayers who earn under $100,000, or about 88 percent of the 140 million Americans who filed a tax return in 2009. In other words, 88 percent of all taxpayers pay 8 percent or less of their income in income taxes.

The average effective tax rate of American taxpayers is 11% on adjusted gross income, according to an analysis by the non-partisan Tax Foundation. Millionaires pay about about 25%, the foundation says.

The average is bumped up by the effective rate paid by those evil millionaires.

Resist We Much on May 18, 2013 at 10:11 PM

Common sense disagrees with you.

HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 9:52 PM

LOL. You appealing to “common sense” is like Barky appealing to “math” – and we all know that the Indonesian Imbecile didn’t crack 420 on the math section of his SATs. You guys are a laugh riot. I just wish someone would put you back in the sandbox where you can’t do any damage, except to yourselves.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 18, 2013 at 10:12 PM

CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:10 PM

I guess I am pretty damn smart then!!!! lmao

Scrumpy on May 18, 2013 at 10:12 PM

BeachBum on May 18, 2013 at 10:05 PM

I have several theories after..oh..5 yrs here?
That is the M.O.
Take a dump and jet.
Riles the thread up.

Until recently, with all the serious news..
HA way down on comment count.
Throw in a Palin thread, atheist,abortion,RP..
always a winner.
There are reasons..but I won’t go there with my 2 cents. Maybe one day in another town or hall.

bazil9 on May 18, 2013 at 10:13 PM

How did mine get thru?

Scrumpy on May 18, 2013 at 10:13 PM

BeachBum on May 18, 2013 at 10:11 PM

I agree.

KCB on May 18, 2013 at 10:13 PM

An insufferable ass is an insufferable ass, of course, of course
And no one can talk sense to an insufferable ass, of course
And especially, of course, if the insufferable ass is the famous Barack Obama
Go right to the source and ask the insufferable ass
He’ll give you the answer that deceivers will endorse
He’s always on a dissemblers course
Talk to Barack Obama
Barack Obama just yakkity yaks a streak and wastes your time of day
Does any sane person even believe anymore a single thing he has to say?

An insufferable ass is an insufferable ass, of course, of course
And this one’ll talk in prevaricating circles til his voice is hoarse
You never heard of a talking insufferable ass?
Well, listen to this
He is Barack Obama!

Cheshire Cat on May 18, 2013 at 10:14 PM

Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer.
- Mark Twain

viking01 on May 18, 2013 at 10:14 PM

“It’s great “customer service,” except that you can never get out of the store.” – Mary Steyn

Even Allahpundit doesn’t come up with lines like that.

Cleombrotus on May 18, 2013 at 10:14 PM

Interesting. So the billionaires who pay a 15% or sometimes lower effective tax rate; while you probably pay something close to 30% don’t bother you? Typically right winger.

HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 9:59 PM

See the IRS data and learn something instead of regurgitating TIRED, OLD TALKING POINTS.

Resist We Much on May 18, 2013 at 10:15 PM

When are we going to start talking about a Persecution Fund for those victimized by the IRS? These people and these groups should be reimbursed for the lawyers’ and accountants’ fees attributable to the excessive inquiry.

BuckeyeSam on May 18, 2013 at 10:15 PM

We go back in Political Time:

Could it be,that once Hopey got into POWER as POTUSA,
he planned Getting Evenism/Withism,er,REVENGE!!!!???
—————————————————–

IRS Investigates Church for Letting Obama Speak
February 26, 2008; 7:09 PM ET
******************************

The Internal Revenue Service has notified the United Church of Christ that the IRS has opened an investigation

into Senator Barack Obama’s address at the UCC’s 2007 General Synod.

The IRS is accusing the UCC of engaging in “political activities.”

I believe the “political activities” are on the other foot.

The UCC General Synod was in June of 2007, celebrating that denomination’s 50th Anniversary. It is only now fully nine months later,

when Senator Obama has become the front-runner in the race for President,

that this investigation is launched.

Further, the IRS did not contact the UCC or communicate with them while coming to this decision.

I was present when Senator Obama gave this speech at General Synod (along with 10,000 of my closest church friends and neighbors).

There were no campaign buttons, signs, electioneering or other such politically related activities.

Indeed, the UCC leadership took care to instruct the assembled about the fact that this was a faith event and we were welcoming a member of our church to talk to us about his personal faith in the public square.

It was an extraordinary speech. Pundits and competing candidates have criticized Senator Obama for being more about words than deeds.

This is, of course, just political noise,

but it is true that some words are more effective than others. This speech was an insightful, even luminous glimpse into the fundamental human dilemma of the search for meaning and purpose in life.

We may have to go back to Lincoln to find such a weaving of transcendent themes of meaning and purpose in the search for how we want to live as Americans. What is truly innovative in this speech by Obama and what makes it such an incredible model for how we engage the public square with our faith without

violating the separation of church and state,

is that he never collapses his faith in Jesus Christ into a narrow path to salvation; instead, he reaches out from the power of his faith in God to the universal human striving for meaning in a world where poverty and injustice threaten to drive us down and out into despair and nothingness. People want “a narrative arc to their lives” Obama said.

The narrative structure of the speech was to take the audience with him as he went from his conversion to a personal faith in Jesus Christ to the broad theme of meaning and purpose in human life.

He started talking about his work as a community organizer and his work with older church folk who confronted him about being more an observer of faith, than a believer. He decided he’d better find a community of faith.

So one Sunday, I put on one of the few clean jackets I had, and went over to Trinity United Church of Christ on 95th Street on the South Side of Chicago.

If anyone could think that’s engaging in “political activities”

than I have a bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell you.

Obama went on to say what I think is the truly innovative part of how he relates his faith to public service, not only in his own life, but also in the larger American journey.

But my journey is part of a larger journey – one shared by all who’ve ever sought to apply the values of their faith to our society. It’s a journey that takes us back to our nation’s founding, when none other than a UCC church inspired the Boston Tea Party and helped bring an Empire to its knees.

The temptation to empire is the temptation to persecute freedom, especially religious freedom, rather than respect and honor it. It is now another UCC church, the national United Church of Christ, that is standing up for individual freedom, especially the right to religious expression free of government persecution.

Read the full text of the speech and all the relevant documents by going to the UCC website and judge for yourself.

The “narrative arc” of this speech tracks the “narrative arc” of how we as Americans respect our Constitution and also passionately engage in public service as a higher calling.

There is true irony in the IRS investigating the UCC for the presentation of a speech

that may go down in history as one of the most profound articulations of how we as Americans live into transcendent meaning and purpose through our free, democratic institutions.

Truly that is ironic.

And sad.

http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/panelists/susan_brooks_thistlethwaite/2008/02/irs_investigates_church_for_le.html

canopfor on May 18, 2013 at 10:15 PM

Scrumpy the u is a greek u.

CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:15 PM

Common sense disagrees with you.

HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 9:52 PM

You may be common, but heaven knows, you have no sense.

Resist We Much on May 18, 2013 at 10:16 PM

tom daschle concerned on May 18, 2013 at 10:08 PM

viking01 on May 18, 2013 at 10:05 PM

Yep, that’s my style.
I couldn’t have a sock if I wanted one. :)

bazil9 on May 18, 2013 at 10:08 PM

Yah. Just curious. :) Another mystery down. Back to my search for the noble wood ape.

I dunno b9, it’s a bit like Canada. Hm.

Axe on May 18, 2013 at 10:16 PM

How did mine get thru?

Scrumpy on May 18, 2013 at 10:13 PM

How did my re-posting of your post get through but the F word in my post caused it to go into moderation..?

Hmmmm

Electrongod on May 18, 2013 at 10:16 PM

HAL you tard I will try again.

Copied from my previous post:

HAL:

Yes trying THINKING

In fact, one overview from Forbes.com pegged the overall effective tax rates of the Big Three oil and gas firms at 41.5% to 48.3%, depending on the company.
These rates were the highest among the 25 top taxpaying companies (in terms of dollar amounts) that Forbes surveyed.

Read More At Investor’s Business Daily: http:/

So yes they do.

CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:02 PM

Anyone else hear crickets?

CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:16 PM

When are we going to start talking about a Persecution Fund for those victimized by the IRS? These people and these groups should be reimbursed for the lawyers’ and accountants’ fees attributable to the excessive inquiry.

BuckeyeSam on May 18, 2013 at 10:15 PM

Pigford II!

Resist We Much on May 18, 2013 at 10:16 PM

That said, STOP defending these “job creators” from paying their fair share of taxes.
HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 9:52 PM

What is ” fair share” ? Give a %age that’ll make you happy .

All in the name of “the more money they get to keep, the more jobs they will create”. Common sense disagrees with you.

So tax cuts don’t benefit job creation?
The explain this , this from your fool in CA supported by union thugs :

The two-year, $200 million extension to the movie and television tax credit program has been signed into law by California Gov. Jerry Brown. It ensures that there will be a program to stem runaway production at least through July 1, 2017.
…….“By creating tens of thousands of jobs and pumping billions into our economy, the film and television tax credit program has truly been a statewide economic stimulus package,” said Fuentes. “Extending this incentive program will prevent production companies from moving their projects, jobs and spending out of California.”

Did they tell you the meaning of ” common sense”?

burrata on May 18, 2013 at 10:16 PM

Scrumpy the u is a greek u.

CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:15 PM

Scrumpy..
Are you holding out?

:)

Electrongod on May 18, 2013 at 10:16 PM

Your whole ‘I love America and civil liberties and only demand ‘fairness and a level playing field’ schtick is a bunch of crap.

Resist We Much on May 18, 2013 at 9:57 PM

Not even the Democrats — the Inner Party Democrats, not the riffraff like HAL — believe in that crap. What’s laughable is HAL’s misguided belief that his party in Washington still cares about the “little guy”.

The only “guy” the Democrats care about is the plutocrat who pays for underclass busing come election time and the transgendered “guy” looking for federal $$$ for a sex-change operation. :-)

Punchenko on May 18, 2013 at 10:17 PM

What part of FAIR SHARE don’t you understand?

HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 9:43 PM

What part of my share is your “FAIR SHARE”?

Just curious…

ccrosby on May 18, 2013 at 10:17 PM

I paid almost 45% last year, wrote one hell of a check to both the state and federal tax man, and I’m not exactly a billionaire. I’d like to know just how much more “fair” this is going to get because too much further and I might just decide to drop out.

Bishop on May 18, 2013 at 10:11 PM

I think I could get up to that % if I include federal, state, and local taxes, plus both my and my employers contributions to SS, Medicare and Medicaid, and then removed my contribution to my family health plan from my income. However, the federal income tax portion is less than Romney’s rate.

Count to 10 on May 18, 2013 at 10:17 PM

They can never define “common sense” or “fair share” because their definition shifts with their goals.

Sooner or later the liberal trash will get around to stuffing people into gas chambers and chalking it up as a “common sense” solution to the problem of resource depletion.

Bishop on May 18, 2013 at 10:18 PM

Cheshire Cat on May 18, 2013 at 10:14 PM

So cool!!

Scrumpy on May 18, 2013 at 10:18 PM

When are we going to start talking about a Persecution Fund for those victimized by the IRS? These people and these groups should be reimbursed for the lawyers’ and accountants’ fees attributable to the excessive inquiry.

BuckeyeSam on May 18, 2013 at 10:15 PM

Pigford II!

Resist We Much on May 18, 2013 at 10:16 PM

YES! We want our money. :-D

Punchenko on May 18, 2013 at 10:18 PM

What part of my share is your “FAIR SHARE”?

Just curious…

ccrosby on May 18, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Do you have a savings?

Then you have too much..

HAL.

Electrongod on May 18, 2013 at 10:18 PM

I paid almost 45% last year, wrote one hell of a check to both the state and federal tax man, and I’m not exactly a billionaire. I’d like to know just how much more “fair” this is going to get because too much further and I might just decide to drop out.
Bishop on May 18, 2013 at 10:11 PM

Well you need to sing this song to your fellow right wingers. They are the ones advocating “job creators” should pay relatively no taxes while you foot the bill.

HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 10:18 PM

hehe. (: That Confucius was very smart.

SparkPlug on May 18, 2013 at 10:10 PM

Yep, he and Sun Tzu are the only China men worth listening to.

TXUS on May 18, 2013 at 10:18 PM

Sophie, are you gonna beat the crap out of HAL tonight? I like to know in advance.

KCB on May 18, 2013 at 10:09 PM

If I beat the crap out of HAL, there would be nothing left of him. Crap is all that he is.

Resist We Much on May 18, 2013 at 10:19 PM

CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:10 PM

I guess I am pretty damn smart then!!!! lmao

Scrumpy on May 18, 2013 at 10:12 PM

I think CW meant that the filter will let it through, but we still aren’t going to use it. :)

Up to you though. Free country.

Sort of.

Axe on May 18, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Drudge has a link to the IRS seizing medical records. Obamacare would be their only reason for doing so, so I wonder where this order came from? HAs anyone heard of this before?

clnurnberg on May 18, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Scrumpy the u is a greek u.

CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:15 PM

Aha I copied yours lol… cuz otherwise it looks normal!!

Scrumpy on May 18, 2013 at 10:20 PM

If I beat the crap out of HAL, there would be nothing left of him. Crap is all that he is.

Resist We Much on May 18, 2013 at 10:19 PM

I’d be willing to risk that.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 18, 2013 at 10:20 PM

Axe on May 18, 2013 at 10:19 PM

I’ll stick to NOT using it, it’s not lady like and I am a Lady!!!

Sometimes ;)

Scrumpy on May 18, 2013 at 10:21 PM

I paid almost 45% last year, wrote one hell of a check to both the state and federal tax man, and I’m not exactly a billionaire. I’d like to know just how much more “fair” this is going to get because too much further and I might just decide to drop out.

Bishop on May 18, 2013 at 10:11 PM

Folks like us threaten that but won’t do it because it is ingrained into our souls to get up and go to work everyday and work hard to get a good salary. The gubmint sucking loser, lowlifes like HAL have figured that part out. I will give them 1 minute of round number 5 in a 12 round 119 – 97 title fight.

VegasRick on May 18, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Pigford II!

Resist We Much on May 18, 2013 at 10:16 PM

Legitimate claims only. Kind of like a tea party rally, leaving the locale no worse off for having had the event held there.

BuckeyeSam on May 18, 2013 at 10:21 PM

What part of my share is your “FAIR SHARE”?
Just curious…
ccrosby on May 18, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Well if you are a billionaire, paying the same 30% im paying is fair

HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 10:21 PM

I dunno b9, it’s a bit like Canada. Hm.

Axe on May 18, 2013 at 10:16 PM

I say “eh” too..go figure. :)
I have a personal..sorta reason for my
formatting.

~
You comment odd too! btw…

bazil9 on May 18, 2013 at 10:21 PM

I’d be willing to risk that.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 18, 2013 at 10:20 PM

OK, but I’m going to need a body condom. :-)

Resist We Much on May 18, 2013 at 10:21 PM

If I was any better I’d be Sparky!

KCB on May 18, 2013 at 10:11 PM

– that’s . . . trans-dimensional, frood. A man who really knows where his towel is. :)

Axe on May 18, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Good bye progressive agenda.

Good bye to benevolent government, fueled by higher taxes.

You didn’t build it? You didn’t even want it.

You wanted to shut up everyone who didn’t believe as you did, because that’s the only way you could get a majority and win.

You had to shut up enough people.

So now your agenda is blown by your Nazi-like practices in practicing your benevolent government.

Enjoy it while it lasted.

itsspideyman on May 18, 2013 at 10:22 PM

B back later..

bazil9 on May 18, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Do you have a savings?

Then you have too much..

HAL.

Electrongod on May 18, 2013 at 10:18 PM

Exactly!

ccrosby on May 18, 2013 at 10:22 PM

I’ll stick to NOT using it, it’s not lady like and I am a Lady!!!

Sometimes ;)

Scrumpy on May 18, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Meh. I was wrong anyway. That’s not what CW meant.

Shit!

lol — K, enough of that.

Axe on May 18, 2013 at 10:23 PM

KCB on May 18, 2013 at 10:13 PM

Thanks!…always liked that song, have it on my ipod, my mother hated it. Wonder why? Maybe that catholic girl stuff…definitely.

BeachBum on May 18, 2013 at 10:23 PM

If I beat the crap out of HAL, there would be nothing left of him. Crap is all that he is.
Resist We Much on May 18, 2013 at 10:19 PM

I dont fight or hit women.

HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 10:23 PM

They are the ones advocating “job creators” should pay relatively no taxes while you foot the bill.

HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 10:18 PM

The strawman king.

CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:23 PM

Why in the heck are y’all wasting good tunage playin’ time gettin’ in the sewer with that dirty douche bag drinkin’ lyin’ idiot HAL?

It’s Saturday night, better folks are here to flirt with and we’re mostly vertical.

Spring finally reached east Texas. Ninety degrees and humid as all get out. I worked out doors any way. Very productive and now its time to drink.

Burritos make great pets…They don’t bark.

SparkPlug on May 18, 2013 at 9:50 PM

You’ve been gettin’ the wrong burritos.

TX has the men…oh and Coz.

bazil9 on May 18, 2013 at 9:54 PM

That’s right, I’m differn’t.

Schlitz.”

TXUS on May 18, 2013 at 9:55 PM

I miss Schlitz. The real Schlitz, not that swill they were sellin’ before they finally gave up.

I also miss drinkin’ it with my German grandfather and uncles.

cozmo on May 18, 2013 at 10:23 PM

I dont fight or hit women.

HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 10:23 PM

No shit. We can beat the hell out of you, pansy boy.

Resist We Much on May 18, 2013 at 10:24 PM

HAL you tard I will try again.

Copied from my previous post:

HAL:

Yes trying THINKING

In fact, one overview from Forbes.com pegged the overall effective tax rates of the Big Three oil and gas firms at 41.5% to 48.3%, depending on the company.
These rates were the highest among the 25 top taxpaying companies (in terms of dollar amounts) that Forbes surveyed.

Read More At Investor’s Business Daily: http:/

So yes they do.

CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:02 PM

Anyone else hear crickets?

CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:16 PM

CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:24 PM

OK, but I’m going to need a body condom. :-)

Resist We Much on May 18, 2013 at 10:21 PM

*pulls body condom from bulk-pack, hands to resist*

*offers harness*

*puts harness back*

Axe on May 18, 2013 at 10:24 PM

What part of my share is your “FAIR SHARE”?
Just curious…
ccrosby on May 18, 2013 at 10:17 PM
Well if you are a billionaire, paying the same 30% im paying is fair

HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Folks, we are now into “Graduated Harvard Law” territory with this one. I can’t stomach anymore of it. Gotta leave.

VegasRick on May 18, 2013 at 10:25 PM

I dont fight or hit women.

HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 10:23 PM

So you remember the lesson little Sally taught you in the second grade.

VorDaj on May 18, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Well if you are a billionaire, paying the same 30% im paying is fair

HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 10:21 PM

You aren’t paying 30% of your income to federal income taxes. If you added up all of the thing that you are including in your 30% total, you would still find that the billionaires are paying a larger fraction than you, and a raw number that you could probably fit your lifetime earnings into with room to spare.

Count to 10 on May 18, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Up to you though. Free country.

Sort of.

Axe on May 18, 2013 at 10:19 PM

[Scrumpy] I would like to apply for a 501 d?

[IRS] What words do you use on conservative blogs?

Electrongod on May 18, 2013 at 10:26 PM

In COZMO’s Honor

CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Drudge has a link to the IRS seizing medical records. Obamacare would be their only reason for doing so, so I wonder where this order came from? HAs anyone heard of this before?

clnurnberg on May 18, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Fish around. I saw this about four or so days ago. It happened in San Diego or around there. Some insurance company (I think) was under an audit, and the IRS took over its audiences around the time of the NCAA tourney. As the IRS was confiscating (unnecessarily) the records of millions of insureds, some of the agents were ordering pizzas to the business and watching NCAA tourney games on media devices owned by the business. I think the business has recently sued the IRS in federal court.

BuckeyeSam on May 18, 2013 at 10:26 PM

I have a personal..sorta reason for my
formatting.

~
You comment odd too! btw…

bazil9 on May 18, 2013 at 10:21 PM

1. Hmm. :) 2. I do not!

Axe on May 18, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Well if you are a billionaire, paying the same 30% im paying is fair

HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Ladies and gentlemen ,
we’ve found Warren Buffet’s ( the tax cheat’s) secretary……woooohooo..

burrata on May 18, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Three oil and gas firms at 41.5% to 48.3%, depending on the company

HAL is 41.5 > 30.0 ?

CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:27 PM

In COZMO’s Honor

CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:26 PM

lol

Axe on May 18, 2013 at 10:28 PM

I miss Schlitz. The real Schlitz, not that swill they were sellin’ before they finally gave up.

I also miss drinkin’ it with my German grandfather and uncles.

cozmo on May 18, 2013 at 10:23 PM

Schlitz got nothing on Blatz. Or Griesedieck for that matter.

I used to drink Black Label (Not Carling) beer. The box said it was imported from Canada. Made in Detroit. My cats Chicken Pot Pie and Wompus loved the boxes.

tom daschle concerned on May 18, 2013 at 10:28 PM

Well you need to sing this song to your fellow right wingers. They are the ones advocating “job creators” should pay relatively no taxes while you foot the bill.

HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 10:18 PM

I had a nice day on the boat so I’ll forgive your ignorance this one time.

I AM a job creator, perfesser, but I’ve been less of a job creator the last four years because you and your fellow leftist trash thought it would be a great idea to install the political equivalent of a mail room clerk as CEO of the world’s preeminent company.

The money your Dog Eating Retard and his criminal minions sucked out of me has meant that I haven’t expanded, hired, or upgraded. Yet I drive by the state welfare office in Minneapolis at the start of each month and see car after car with Illinois plates, your fellow travelers comin’ on up from Chicago to get them some fine Minnesota welfare.

So spare me the clownish antics, you have no idea how close people like me are to simply selling off and retiring which I could do tomorrow if I chose to. Because if we do in any appreciable numbers your world is going to go to hell very quickly.

Bishop on May 18, 2013 at 10:28 PM

Electrongod on May 18, 2013 at 10:26 PM

WE ALL SHOULD!!!!

Scrumpy on May 18, 2013 at 10:28 PM

Wow…fireworks out of Virginia. The “Tea Party is Dead” hypothesis rejected once again. Anyone have any thoughts on E.W. Jackson?

Robert_Paulson on May 18, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Axe on May 18, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Thanks. I won’t ask what you are doing with a stash of body condoms. lol

Resist We Much on May 18, 2013 at 10:30 PM

HAL is 41.5 > 30.0 ?

CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:27 PM

HAL must be Warren Buffet’s secretary..

MSM

Electrongod on May 18, 2013 at 10:30 PM

BUCKEYE SAM:

The Internal Revenue Service stole and improperly accessed 60 million medical records after raiding a California company, according to a legal complaint filed in March with the California superior court for San Diego. Fifteen IRS agents are now facing a class-action lawsuit in the matter.

“In a case involving solely a tax matter involving a former employee of the company, these agents stole more than 60,000,000 medical records of more than 10,000,000 Americans” the complaint, filed by attorney Robert Barnes, alleges. “No search warrant authorized the seizure of these records; no subpoena authorized the seizure of these records; none of the 10,000,000 Americans were under any kind of known criminal or civil investigation and their medical records had no relevance whatsoever to the IRS search.”

The complaint goes on to describe how IRS agents ignored the warnings of IT personnel and executives at the company in question, the John Doe Company, and accuses the IRS of violating the plantiff’s Fourth Amendment rights against unreasonable search and seizure.

Following the seizure of records, IRS agents also used the company’s system for leisure activities, according to the compaint. “Adding insult to injury, after unlawfully seizing the records and searching their intimate parts, defendants decided to use John Doe Company’s media system to watch basketball, ordering pizza and Coca-Cola, to take in part of the NCAA tournament, illustrating their complete disregard of the court’s order and the Plaintiffs’ Fourth Amendment rights” it states.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/348382/irs-agents-stole-60-million-medical-records-legal-complaint-alleges

CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:30 PM

HAL is especially good at fractions..

Electrongod on May 18, 2013 at 10:07 PM

No he ain’t. HAL ain’t even good at lying.

In COZMO’s Honor

CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:26 PM

To hot for socks.

cozmo on May 18, 2013 at 10:30 PM

Well if you are a billionaire, paying the same 30% im paying is fair

HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Hey, douchebag. “Billionaire” is a reference to WEALTH. You are talking abotu INCOME TAXES, not wealth taxes (not that you would really understand the difference).

Further, where did you get the idea that a flat percentage rate is the definition of “fair”? That’s a retarded concept. People understand, intuitively, that as absolute numbers go higher, the seeming “fairness” of percentage goes lower. That’s why percentage charges generally are reduced for larger transactions – everywhere but in government, of course, where idiot America-haters like you have made it exactly the opposite (though now you are trying to act like Steve Forbes and proposing a flat tax – LOL).

People observe this simple phenomenon with percentages all the time – such as small companies that have growth rates that large companies could never come close to. Because percentages with respect to small raw numbers are different than for large ones. Fairness, to anyone with a brain, would involve a lowering percentage as income increases, but this still stands separate from the issue with people who are “billionaires” and don’t get an income but make money through investing their money and taking the risk of losing their investments – which is something that you don’t do and, obviously, wouldn’t understand.

Now, could you please show a smidgeon of decency and go away? Leave. Vamoose. Disappear.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 18, 2013 at 10:30 PM

Because if we do in any appreciable numbers your world is going to go to hell very quickly.

Bishop on May 18, 2013 at 10:28 PM

Don’t give him what he wants!

tom daschle concerned on May 18, 2013 at 10:31 PM

BuckeyeSam on May 18, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Even if you are audited, I don’t think the IRS gets to violate HIPAA or sift through medical records.

clnurnberg on May 18, 2013 at 10:31 PM

HAL do you know how to answer even the simplest of questions?

CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:31 PM

HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Considering social welfare benefits exceeded 2/3rds of the budget last year you have it backwards on what is minor and what is major.

chemman on May 18, 2013 at 10:32 PM

Even if you are audited, I don’t think the IRS gets to violate HIPAA or sift through medical records.

clnurnberg on May 18, 2013 at 10:31 PM

Yeah, OK

tom daschle concerned on May 18, 2013 at 10:32 PM

Well if you are a billionaire, paying the same 30% im paying is fair

HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 10:21 PM

What a freaking stupid reply.

Even your hero Warren Buffett’s not paying that.

ccrosby on May 18, 2013 at 10:33 PM

So spare me the clownish antics, you have no idea how close people like me are to simply selling off and retiring which I could do tomorrow if I chose to. Because if we do in any appreciable numbers your world is going to go to hell very quickly.

Bishop on May 18, 2013 at 10:28 PM

That comment may well be the most deadly serious thing I’ve ever seen you write, Bishop.

Count to 10 on May 18, 2013 at 10:34 PM

Well if you are a billionaire, paying the same 30% im paying is fair

HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 10:21 PM

If a billionaire lives solely off of his assets, he doesn’t pay a dime.

I’ll let you figure out why.

Hint: Income tax

BTW: A federal wealth tax is unconstitutional.

The Unconstitutionality of a Wealth Tax

Resist We Much on May 18, 2013 at 10:36 PM

Why is this medical records incident NOT bigger news, especially with the IRS enforcing the purchase of insurance policies/fines? Nobody was told that they’d be delving into personal info, but with the targeting scandal, it all makes sense. As this was a clear violation, were the people informed of the security breaches? Under law they must be….but who really thinks SIbelius will go against Obama’s pet enforcement pig?

clnurnberg on May 18, 2013 at 10:36 PM

Furthermore you fascist monkey, the manner in which you just dismiss a very powerful arm of the federal government targeting American citizens simply because of their perceived political stance is pretty damn pathetic.

I don’t care what political stripe you wear, every American should be furious and demanding scalps from the people who made and allowed it to happen. The fact that you don’t, that you actually take delight in your fellow citizens being attacked by their own government, makes you a Nazi; you know it and I know it.

Bishop on May 18, 2013 at 10:37 PM

So spare me the clownish antics, you have no idea how close people like me are to simply selling off and retiring which I could do tomorrow if I chose to.
Bishop on May 18, 2013 at 10:28 PM

I’m in the process of the same , 90% there

burrata on May 18, 2013 at 10:37 PM

Bishop on May 18, 2013 at 10:37 PM

I don’t think I’ve ever seen you this angry.

gophergirl on May 18, 2013 at 10:40 PM

Obama is a child, with the leadership abilities of a child, and now he’s the leader of the free world.

Paul-Cincy on May 18, 2013 at 10:40 PM

I don’t care what political stripe you wear, every American should be furious and demanding scalps from the people who made and allowed it to happen. The fact that you don’t, that you actually take delight in your fellow citizens being attacked by their own government, makes you a Nazi; you know it and I know it.

Bishop on May 18, 2013 at 10:37 PM

WOW Powerful stuff!! ^5

Gonna steal that!! :-)

Scrumpy on May 18, 2013 at 10:40 PM

Paul-Cincy on May 18, 2013 at 10:40 PM

Obama is Billy Mumy in the Twilight Zone

clnurnberg on May 18, 2013 at 10:41 PM

Why is this medical records incident NOT bigger news, especially with the IRS enforcing the purchase of insurance policies/fines? Nobody was told that they’d be delving into personal info, but with the targeting scandal, it all makes sense. As this was a clear violation, were the people informed of the security breaches? Under law they must be….but who really thinks SIbelius will go against Obama’s pet enforcement pig?

clnurnberg on May 18, 2013 at 10:36 PM

I’m looking over some HIPAA stuff right now, since your first comment, and I’m not sure there’s any real protection there. The IRS is the enforcement arm of Obamacare now, anyway; they are the national health care system, or a large integrated part.

But I’m not sure. I’m closing out this HIPAA stuff. Not my field. :)

Axe on May 18, 2013 at 10:43 PM

HAL must be off giving the crickets BJs . I thought I heard a few moans in there.

CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:43 PM

I’m looking over some HIPAA stuff right now, since your first comment, and I’m not sure there’s any real protection there. The IRS is the enforcement arm of Obamacare now, anyway; they are the national health care system, or a large integrated part.

But I’m not sure. I’m closing out this HIPAA stuff. Not my field. :)

Axe on May 18, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Legal or not this should be a bigger story. Corporations go to great lengths and costs to comply with HIPAA.

CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Bishop on May 18, 2013 at 10:37 PM

I came in late, but I think this pretty much sums up this administration, and their lap dogs nicely.

I’m at the point where I don’t give a fig whether I’m targeted or not anymore…bring it you f’ing thugs!

ccrosby on May 18, 2013 at 10:46 PM

The Privacy Rule includes both civil and criminal penalties for violations of privacy. Generally, penalties are expected to be assessed in cases where organizations or individuals act with willful neglect or intent to cause harm. Civil penalties are specified at $100 per violation, not to exceed $25,000 per person per year for identical violations. Criminal penalties for wrongful disclosure of PHI can go up to $250,000 and/or 10 years imprisonment if the offense is committed with intent to sell, transfer, or use PHI for commercial advantage, personal gain, or malicious harm.

clnurnberg on May 18, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Legal or not this should be a bigger story. Corporations go to great lengths and costs to comply with HIPAA.

CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:45 PM

But that’s you, not them.

*shrug*

Axe on May 18, 2013 at 10:47 PM

So spare me the clownish antics, you have no idea how close people like me are to simply selling off and retiring which I could do tomorrow if I chose to. Because if we do in any appreciable numbers your world is going to go to hell very quickly.

Bishop on May 18, 2013 at 10:28 PM

I’m there, too, and if someone as small as me, with only a few employees, about 2K at last count, goes Galt, I can only imagine how many billionaires, with hundreds of thousands of employees, are thinking the same. It’s only a matter of time or destiny if or when the bell tolls.

Just hope the barnacles wake up at some point before their ships sink away.

TXUS on May 18, 2013 at 10:48 PM

I don’t think I’ve ever seen you this angry.

gophergirl on May 18, 2013 at 10:40 PM

I’m just so tired of this pap these people are blowing out of their pieholes, demorats and Republicans. The new budget is going to hammer people like me for another 2% as if I’m not already getting raped because I choose to work and build my businesses.

I almost passed out today filling the boat tanks, $4.51 per gallon, and last night I watched Klobuchar looking all concerned about the rising cost and saying she was going to demand answers of the refineries.

Demand answers? You stupid clown, Amy, your party WANTS this. Jeebus I hate these people, and I hate the human sewage like HAL who are furiously digging the national grave and asking “Is it deep enough yet, because I can go deeper.”

Bishop on May 18, 2013 at 10:49 PM

HAL, as usual , when confronted with hard facts, runs away.

CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Bishop on May 18, 2013 at 10:49 PM

You said it way better than I could and I heartily THANK YOU!!!!

(hugs)

Scrumpy on May 18, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Interesting. So the billionaires who pay a 15% or sometimes lower effective tax rate; while you probably pay something close to 30% don’t bother you? Typically right winger.

HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Hey, Harvard Law grad: That right there demonstrates you don’t know what the term “effective tax rate” really means. You really should try educating yourself before commenting here. Since you have the contrarian point of view, you should have a grasp of the facts, otherwise, it just makes you look like the !@#n fool you are.

AZfederalist on May 18, 2013 at 10:53 PM

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