Pelosi: “Don’t even think about” trying to raise the Medicare age

posted at 4:41 pm on December 13, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

All of this ‘compromise’ flying back and forth is practically giving me whiplash.

As I have said, don’t even think about raising the Medicare age. We are not throwing America’s seniors over the cliff to give a tax cut to the wealthiest people in America. We have clarity on that. But, again, on all these other things, go to the table and negotiate.

Translation: I am not going to give an inch on Republicans’ suggestions, but Republicans better start doing what we want — ’cause that’s how compromise works, dammit!

Enough already with this false equivalency that any and all entitlement reforms are coming at the expense of ‘giving a tax cut to the wealthiest people in America.’ We’re on our way to our fifth straight trillion+ dollar yearly deficit, and even if President Obama’s proposed tax hike does everything he says it will, it still will not accomplish anything substantive in helping pay off our debt or decrease the size of government. As Boehner elucidated this morning, Obama and the Democrats are just willfully pretending that spending isn’t the problem.

Pelosi published an op-ed about the ostensible “assault” on seniors that raising the Medicare age would be on Wednesday, but Dan Foster has her number:

First, raising the eligibility age for Medicare isn’t about arbitrarily stiffing seniors. The principle behind it is that Americans are both living longer and working longer, and that old-age/retirement entitlements should reflect that shift. Second, any plan that could pass both chambers would surely make the change gradually. Pelosi admits as much later in the piece. There simply aren’t going to be any 64-and-a-half-year-olds who wake up to find out that their insurance options have changed overnight. In fact, the data suggests the overwhelming majority of affected seniors would continue to be covered by other means. Last, if the Republicans manage to get this “trophy” it will be because the president of the United States — and the leader of Mrs. Pelosi’s party — said, as recently as today, that he was open to the idea.


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This witch just needs to go to a creche, in Depends, with Tomasky changing them.

Schadenfreude on December 13, 2012 at 4:44 PM

Only the good die young.

While people like Nanzi Pelosi just seem to live forever.

UltimateBob on December 13, 2012 at 4:44 PM

But by all means lets kill Charitable giving through eliminatin tax exemptions, and lets kill family farms and small family businesses with marxist death taxes, as they try to make a better America.

Dipshiite Peloopy.

FlaMurph on December 13, 2012 at 4:46 PM

as I’ve said, don’t even think about not bribing me with IPOs

Slade73 on December 13, 2012 at 4:47 PM

I only wish that we had such hardcore negotiators on our team as the donks do.

jukin3 on December 13, 2012 at 4:47 PM

and BTW—

YOU’RE NOT SPEAKER ANYMORE !!!

haven’t you heard Rich Nan, you are irrelevant.

FlaMurph on December 13, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Oh, the spirit of compromise . . . let’s just break the bank unless Nancy wants to cover the costs. Bottom line: Screw you Nancy.

rplat on December 13, 2012 at 4:50 PM

I’ve seen the light and Pelosi is right about this. Only egregious a-holes would want to throw grandma off a cliff. I now support John Boehner and GOP establishment

sauldalinsky on December 13, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Come dunt

Rio Linda Refugee on December 13, 2012 at 4:50 PM

She said the same thing when Ramses was pharaoh.

viking01 on December 13, 2012 at 4:50 PM

wadda hag, the perfect lemming for that thing in the WH. I hope we go over the cliff, let the Rs take the blame then shut down the government for 4 years…who needs any of that crap in Washington.

RedInMD on December 13, 2012 at 4:50 PM

We are not throwing America’s seniors over the cliff to give a tax cut to the wealthiest people in America.

Communist propaganda. No one is getting a tax cut. Keeping tax rates the same is not a tax cut.

I believe, in a time not that far distant … say fifty years, most Congressional democrats would have been arrested for treason. Today, they’re voted back in office.

darwin on December 13, 2012 at 4:51 PM

Mediscaring didn’t work, Romney won seniors because they know the system is unsustainable and they have kids and grandkids to think of. Why be so adamant about “protecting” Medicare?

Charlemagne on December 13, 2012 at 4:51 PM

I’m only a few years away from the Medicare age, and even I think raising it is a no-brainer!

KS Rex on December 13, 2012 at 4:52 PM

Perhaps another overseas trip and perch on Assad’s lap might improve her mood. No wonder the world now laughs at us.

a capella on December 13, 2012 at 4:53 PM

shut down the government for 4 years

RedInMD on December 13, 2012 at 4:50 PM

I got a b0ner reading that

Slade73 on December 13, 2012 at 4:53 PM

Why not means test Medicare Nan and cut off those evil rich from even receiving Medicare? It’s not like they need it, right? Doesn’t even matter that they paid into it, right?

Charlemagne on December 13, 2012 at 4:54 PM

Who cares what Pelosi “demands”? She doesn’t control enough votes in the House to do squat about it either way. The negotiation is entirely between the House GOP, the Senate Dems, and Obama. In fact, you can practically take the Senate Dems off the table (as has effectively been done anyways) and leave it just to House GOP and Obama, since Obama will push the Reid to whip the Senate Dems to sign off on whatever deal he reaches with the House. Mitch McConnell actually has more power in the discussions than Pelosi, since Harry Reid will need a few GOP votes in the Senate for cloture on the deal. Of the five key leadership players (Obama, Boehner, Reid, McConnell, and Pelosi) she is actually the one with the least influence in the matter… and by least I mean none.

gravityman on December 13, 2012 at 4:54 PM

Every time you post a picture of that witch I vomit. Doesn’t taste good, but I’m losing weight.

Keep her face off the web.

Thank you.

GCStateConservative on December 13, 2012 at 4:55 PM

“As I have said, don’t even think about raising the Medicare age. We are not throwing America’s seniors over the cliff to give a tax cut to the wealthiest people in America. We have clarity on that. But, again, on all these other things, go to the table and negotiate.”

NO ONE IS GETTING A TAX CUT. NO ONE, INCLUDING THE “EVIL RICH” AND THE “MIDDLE CLASS.”

Resist We Much on December 13, 2012 at 4:57 PM

I’m only a few years away from the Medicare age, and even I think raising it is a no-brainer!

KS Rex on December 13, 2012 at 4:52 PM

I’m thinking within 10 years (if the US is still around), Medicare will be gone. Seniors will have to buy insurance the same as everyone else.

There’s no sense in having ObamaCare, Mediaid and Medicare. Government health care coming our way.

Of course that’s really bad news for seniors because they use a lot of the medical services and well, that stuff is just plain expensive.

darwin on December 13, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Everytime a picture of pelosi is posted on Hot Air God kills a kitten, please think of the kittens

ChunkyLover on December 13, 2012 at 4:59 PM

Norquist: President Obama is overestimating his mandate
http://www.humanevents.com/2012/12/12/norquist-president-obama-is-overestimating-his-mandate/

The Obama political team does not want to raise taxes. It wants to destroy the Reagan Republican party as a credible opposition. Their model is Chicago. There, Republicans technically exist. But the Chicago Republican party is not a threat to Democrat power. Ever.

This fight is about power, not economics. If Obama cared about the size of the deficit he would not have increased spending and run up $5 trillion in debt. If he simply wanted higher taxes on “the rich” he could have voted that into law any day of 2009 or 2010 when Democrats held supermajorities in the House and Senate. Obama wants Republican fingerprints on a tax hike so he can destroy the credibility and future of the sole challenge to his party’s hold on power.

One notes that two years ago Obama signed legislation to extend all the Bush tax cuts for two years saying he didn’t want to damage the weak economy. The economy is still weak and taxes still harm growth.

Galt2009 on December 13, 2012 at 4:59 PM

This is why I keep saying that the Republicans need to give in on the taxes and shift the debate to spending.

They do that and the leftwing ideologues like Pelosi will be exposed.

Obama wants to divide the GOP on the taxes but the table can be turned if they agree to an increase and force the divisions in the Democratic party to emerge.

The Democratic coalition is built upon identity policies and government programs. That will split apart if you press it.

SteveMG on December 13, 2012 at 5:01 PM

NO ONE IS GETTING A TAX CUT. NO ONE…

Resist We Much on December 13, 2012 at 4:57 PM

She can’t hear you, her ears are fake, too.

Fallon on December 13, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Pelosi: “Don’t even think about” trying to raise the Medicare age

Hey, Nancy, I just thought about it.

Whatcha gonna do about it?

Bitter Clinger on December 13, 2012 at 5:02 PM

I like how everything is presented in the context of “to give a tax cut to the wealthiest people in America”, even though the President has similarly said he absolutely will not allow that to happen.

So if we take that as a given, we wouldn’t be raising the Medicare age in order to do that anyway. So again we’re back to the tired Democrat meme of “reasonable reductions” that magically happen despite not reducing anything.

The Schaef on December 13, 2012 at 5:02 PM

This is why I keep saying that the Republicans need to give in on the taxes and shift the debate to spending.

They do that and the leftwing ideologues like Pelosi will be exposed.

Obama wants to divide the GOP on the taxes but the table can be turned if they agree to an increase and force the divisions in the Democratic party to emerge.

The Democratic coalition is built upon identity policies and government programs. That will split apart if you press it.

SteveMG on December 13, 2012 at 5:01 PM

I agree. It really does put them on the spot and the spotlight moves to entitlement reform. I actually think there are plenty of Dems who will break with Pelosi over this (including Obama) so I am not sure if this is going to be something that changes the GOP’s long term problems but it’s about saving the country rather than the party.

lexhamfox on December 13, 2012 at 5:06 PM

She can’t hear you, her ears are fake, too.

Fallon on December 13, 2012 at 5:01 PM

I’m convinced that long-term usage of Botox causes dain bramage.

Resist We Much on December 13, 2012 at 5:06 PM

If I never hear the word clarity again, it will be too soon. We have a Lefty troublemaker in our homeowners’ association who has disrupted the business and accountable operation of our group (and not added one ounce problem solving whose favorite word is clarity. Obfuscation and pot-stirring are her hallmarks.

onlineanalyst on December 13, 2012 at 5:08 PM

…can I pray for someone to die?
(I was thinking about Harry Reid a few weeks ago…and I just had that thought again!)

KOOLAID2 on December 13, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Not surprising, considering 55% of the sheepl…er, people think Teh SCOAMF is the one willing to deal.

Steve Eggleston on December 13, 2012 at 5:13 PM

This is bassackwards. We’re really going to sit around and argue about at what age citizens should start receiving government benefits? Really?

Sad that we can no longer hope for a strong economic system, free of government interference and the Federal Reserve Board/IRS taxation scam, where the average citizen can comfortably retire well before they reach 60 if they choose to do so.

That should be our goal and vision.

Not when Uncle Same will or will not start sending us checks.

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 13, 2012 at 5:16 PM

I got a b0ner reading that

Slade73 on December 13, 2012 at 4:53 PM

Take a look at nancy’s pic..that should take care of it.

HumpBot Salvation on December 13, 2012 at 5:16 PM

I don’t think her feet touch the ground anymore. It might be that a lifetime of arguing for irrational things and la la la’ing past evidence of their irrationality eventually just disconnects you from reality altogether. She seems to be floating in her own space.

Pelosi might be just a cautionary tale, now.

Axe on December 13, 2012 at 5:23 PM

I’m wonder why no Republican has ever used this kind of forum on a daily basis since 2008 to spread this message:

“When these missing data were factored in, it became clear that the rejection rates were based on legitimate business decisions, not racism.”

Seven Percent Solution on December 13, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Take a look at nancy’s pic..that should take care of it.

HumpBot Salvation on December 13, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Or this one….

It’s A Ta-Ta-Penalty!

Resist We Much on December 13, 2012 at 5:27 PM

When people live to be 90, 65 is no longer “elderly”.

Work, you bastards. You eat, you work. Retirement is not supposed to be a lifestyle. We are not rich enough to allow a huge chunk of our population – maybe half – to play golf for 25 years.

keep the change on December 13, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Can anyone resurrect a clip of that hag gloating over her pay-go bill when she broke the glass ceiling and grabbed the gavel?

onlineanalyst on December 13, 2012 at 5:32 PM

How long has Pelosi, the greedy beotch and taxpayer rapist been collecting SS? Bet you anything she’s cashing those checks.

Cody1991 on December 13, 2012 at 5:34 PM

Translation: I am not going to give an inch on Republicans’ suggestions, but Republicans better start doing what we want — ’cause that’s how compromise works, dammit!

SPOT ON!!!!

cmsinaz on December 13, 2012 at 5:35 PM

What’s with Pelosi’s waving her hands around? Is she drying off the polish from her recent manicure? Directing an imaginary band of felllow travelers? Directing traffic for another San Francisco Gay Day parade?

onlineanalyst on December 13, 2012 at 5:39 PM

Can anyone resurrect a clip of that hag gloating over her pay-go bill when she broke the glass ceiling and grabbed the gavel?

onlineanalyst on December 13, 2012 at 5:32 PM

I’m looking, but I just saw this:

TIME: Boehner’s Large Gavel: Why Is New Speaker’s Gavel So Big?

Jan 6, 2011 – As outgoing Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi officially handed over her job to … Boehner’s gavel is so big, it resembles a croquet mallet.

________________________________________

I guess they were in a Democratic coma when Maerose walked through the Tea Party crowds with the CBC and other leadership with her HUGE gavel on the way to pass Obamacare.

Head-to-toe in LAVENDER, if IIRC.

Resist We Much on December 13, 2012 at 5:42 PM

Hey, Nance, the “wealthiest people in America” do not pay income tax based on salaries. Like you and your hubby, these people have sheltered their money away from the tax man.

Your party is going to damage physicians, IT specialists, small business owners, etc.

onlineanalyst on December 13, 2012 at 5:42 PM

I guess they were in a Democratic coma when Maerose walked through the Tea Party crowds with the CBC and other leadership with her HUGE gavel on the way to pass Obamacare.

Head-to-toe in LAVENDER, if IIRC.

Resist We Much on December 13, 2012 at 5:42 PM

Was their spit dripping off the mallet as her flunkies had claimed?

onlineanalyst on December 13, 2012 at 5:44 PM

Your party is going to damage physicians, IT specialists, small business owners, etc.

onlineanalyst on December 13, 2012 at 5:42 PM

Professionals of all stripe.

But, “is going to”?

Axe on December 13, 2012 at 5:46 PM

Ga

lt2009 on December 13, 2012 at 4:59 PM

+1000

straight out of FDR’s playbook from before he was elected president
until he died, he never cared about recovery and that’s why it never happened until he was gone. Central power was the objective as taught by his mentor Woodrow Wilson.

DanMan on December 13, 2012 at 5:48 PM

What an incredible, stupid, empty-headed and totally partisan, hypocritical, person….. go san fransissy, you blithering, moronic, idiots. She is a fine representative and you should be proud of what you did…..

ultracon on December 13, 2012 at 5:51 PM

Somebody needs to drop a House on that Wicked Witch of the West

rayra on December 13, 2012 at 5:53 PM

….but….but….women are such superior compromisers….

Deafdog on December 13, 2012 at 5:54 PM

What’s with Pelosi’s waving her hands around? Is she drying off the polish from her recent manicure? Directing an imaginary band of felllow travelers? Directing traffic for another San Francisco Gay Day parade?

onlineanalyst on December 13, 2012 at 5:39 PM

She also did that in the PC where she was asked about her age. It’s bizarre, like she’s waving away a housefly that only she sees.

slickwillie2001 on December 13, 2012 at 5:57 PM

Nice auto play….

I refuse to watch any videos of Granny Rictus McBotox until someone puts in little CGI bubbles popping around her head….

wytshus on December 13, 2012 at 6:02 PM

“After years of historic deficits, this 110th Congress will commit itself to a higher standard: Pay as you go, no new deficit spending. Our new America will provide unlimited opportunity for future generations, not burden them with mountains of debt.”

- Maerose Prizzi’s inaugural speech as Speaker, 2007

OK, I just have to post this…

Speaker Pelosi joined President Obama and Democratic Members of Congress at a news conference this afternoon as the President expressed his strong support for legislation that would reinstitute statutory pay-as-you-go (PAYGO) rules, restoring fiscal discipline to the federal government. Budget Chairman Spratt explained, “its terms are complex, but at its core, it is a common-sense rule that everyone can understand: when you are in a hole, you should quit digging.”

After the press conference, Speaker Pelosi issued the following statement:

Pay-as-you-go budget accountability has been a centerpiece of Democratic budget discipline since the early 1980s. In the 1990s, when a Democratic Congress and President Bill Clinton were able to implement this discipline, we reversed the huge deficits of the Reagan-Bush years and produced four years of budget surpluses while funding American priorities. That fiscal discipline helped produce an economic boom with rising household incomes for millions of Americans.

But when President George W. Bush came to office, he and Congressional Republicans abandoned the PAYGO rule. A projected surplus of $5.6 trillion was allowed to collapse into more than $5.8 trillion in deficits — a turnaround of more than $11 trillion in the wrong direction.

Since the first day Democrats reclaimed the majority in 2007, PAYGO has been part of the rules that govern how the House conducts its business. Now we are fully committed to enacting PAYGO rules into law with enforceable consequences.

As we have shown before, we can fund America’s priorities while abiding by the strict rules of pay-as-you-go accountability. Working with President Obama, we will establish PAYGO as the discipline for all future spending and tax policy. And when we do, our economy, our citizens, and our future generations will achieve greater stability and greater security.

Learn more about fiscal responsibility under Democratic leadership:

CUTTING THE DEFICIT

In 2007 and 2008, the House passed a budget resolution that brings the budget into surplus by 2012 — for the first time since President Bush took office.

This year’s budget slashes the deficit by nearly two-thirds in four years (by 2013) and even further by 2014, to 3.0% of GDP.

It also provides for health care reform, critical to reducing the deficit — with reduced costs, affordable coverage and improved health reducing the strain on businesses, families, and federal and state budgets.

PAY-AS-YOU-GO BUDGET DISCIPLINE

The first thing the Democratic-led Congress did in January 2007 was reimpose PAYGO budget rules that Republicans had let lapse — placing them in the House and Senate rules. The PAYGO rules had helped President Clinton turn over an historic budget surplus to President Bush–who quickly turned it into a record deficit. Simply put: Under PAYGO, Congress can only spend a dollar if it saves a dollar.

Budget Deficits/Surpluses in Billions

This year’s budget reaffirmed our commitment to statutory PAYGO–to make it law.

Now, on June 9, President Obama and several Democratic Members of Congress, including Blue Dog Democrats, announced an effort to get statutory PAYGO enacted into law.

Maerose takes the gavel, 2007: $8,670,596,242,973.04 ($8.67 trillion)

Maerose hands the gavel to Boehner, 2011: 14,011,526,727,895.85 ($14.01 trillion)

$5,340,930,484,922.81 was added to the national debt under Maerose’s “Pay-Go.”

Resist We Much on December 13, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Is auto-play really the wisest choice for a Pelosi video? Really?

trigon on December 13, 2012 at 6:11 PM

who knew there were so many cliffs in DC? the fear tactics from the federal govt are getting old, much like the membership of Congress

burserker on December 13, 2012 at 6:20 PM

$5,340,930,484,922.81 was added to the national debt under Maerose’s “Pay-Go.”

Resist We Much on December 13, 2012 at 6:03 PM

SHE SHOULD BE MARCHED OUT TOMORROW AND SHOT BY A FIRING SQUAD.

She can take fellow democrat thief Corzine straight to hell with her.

tom daschle concerned on December 13, 2012 at 6:26 PM

Did Pelosi and Boxer go to the same elocution class?

O/T but related to fiscal cliff negotiations: A good interview with WSJ’s Kim Strassel
http://live.wsj.com/video/opinion-obamas-negotiating-arrogance-/B2E36E97-282F-4E40-BDB5-6031FE1A5DDD.html?mod=WSJ_qtnews_wsjlatest#!3D052258-696E-419C-9A4F-E8B18CB381AA

What she suggests is a great plan. Boehner should go ahead with it.

onlineanalyst on December 13, 2012 at 6:39 PM

Thanks, RWM for the links. The Republicans should throw Pelosi’s speech and her profligate spending back in her face…repeatedly.

onlineanalyst on December 13, 2012 at 6:40 PM

Raise the SS age to 70. I speak as an over fifty year old person. I need twenty more years of career time, seriously. I don’t want to retire and get Medicare. REALLY

Second. Make a law that public pensions, state and local governments and the military, should not pay Old age retirement pensions, until a person is, 1. retired and 2. over 70. Where personal money has accrued I don’t suggest Stealing a persons investment, just prolonging it over their lifespan or letting it go to your heirs.

Third. No government employee should invest more in, or recieve more out of a public pension than the average worker. They can put their extra money somewhere else, but let all government pension, including Senators, Congressmen, Presidents, be based on directed investments by the person, not from the government pension.

Fixed Ladies.

Fleuries on December 13, 2012 at 6:43 PM

on December 13, 2012 at 6:43 PM

Prepare for an approximate doubling of military pay, then…as the retirement benefits being payable upon retirement from active duty is the justification for paying military members so little compared to the hardships of military life.

At least now it only gets paid if the member stays till retirement.

James on December 13, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Well, the one thing we can say it that since her party is way in the minority in the House, what she says is irrelevant to what the House passes.

AZfederalist on December 13, 2012 at 10:12 PM