Matthews: What we need is a media that’s more biased against conservatives

posted at 6:40 pm on December 13, 2012 by Allahpundit

Via Breitbart’s Larry O’Connor, who notes that Matthews’s idea of balance here is to hash things out with liberal hyperpartisans Joan Walsh and David Corn. Duane already flagged this in the Greenroom but I want to front-page it just because there’s suddenly, and seemingly oddly, a lot of “the media is too right-wing” idiocy about. Seems strange for liberals to be grousing about press coverage after an election in which they crushed Republicans, no? Read R.S. McCain’s piece yesterday about leftist reaction to the assault on Steven Crowder and see if it makes more sense. This is all about delegitimizing the right, sometimes on the micro level, as with the Crowder incident, and sometimes the macro, as with Matthews’s shpiel here. If you’re a reporter and you’re taking conservatives seriously, you’re doing it wrong. Matthews goes so far as to identify Romney’s utterly benign aside in the second debate about “binders full of women” as one of the reasons the media should move, en masse, even further to the left. That’s not a serious critique; it’s a fig leaf of outrage designed to apply pressure towards the desired political outcome. And it works. Look how bothered the media was about what happened in Michigan after the left went to work on it.

Ace claims it’s time for the right to build its own media — not a self-styled alternative to the mainstream media, a la Fox News, but a media of its own. That’s the way conservatives can start to claw back “neutral” media terrain for news that’s unhelpful to the left. E.g., let’s say a conservative billionaire takes Glenn Reynolds’s advice and buys a bunch of women’s magazines. And let’s say he takes Ace’s advice and doesn’t remodel those magazines as “conservative” but dedicates them to true objectivity, with news covered no matter which side’s agenda is harmed by it. Question: How would those magazines maintain their public reputation as “objective” or “neutral” once the left’s hatchet men went to work on them? The effort to ghettoize those magazines as “extreme” or “wingnutty” and therefore untrustworthy would be twice as hot as the effort to ghettoize Fox, for the simple reason that Fox is already pitched overtly at the right. The left doesn’t care what conservatives say to each other about liberals; they care what a neutral source, which might attract centrists and center-leftists, is saying about them because a neutral source will build credibility through its neutrality that might reach across ideological lines. Liberals would work hard to marginalize something like that. On the flip side, which conservative tycoons are willing to throw a boatload of money at buying media in order to make them neutral rather than overtly conservative? If you’re so exasperated by media bias that you’re open to spending $100 million on a newspaper that will do conservatives the small favor of simply taking them seriously, how would you resist the temptation over time to turn that paper into an explicitly partisan, dogmatically conservative counterweight to major papers? What happens when some of the paper’s hack liberal reporters leave in protest and are replaced by more conservative ones who are eager to work there? Can neutrality be maintained then?

Your problem here, I think, isn’t that there isn’t enough conservative influence at the top of the media, it’s that there isn’t enough respect for conservatives at the bottom. And it has little to do with the GOP moving “too far right.” Liberals like to say that Reagan would be a moderate by current Republican standards but they hated Reagan to pieces 30 years ago and they’d hate him to pieces now. Romney was a moderate by any measure — even in his base-pandering phase in the primaries he refused to denounce RomneyCare — and yet they despised him as some sort of plutocratic sociopath. We could spend hours debating why the Lords of Empathy aren’t more empathetic towards their opponents, if only to the point of not suspecting nefarious motives behind every last conservative policy measure, but I don’t think it’s something that’d be solved by having Rupert Murdoch buy up a bunch of papers. It’s a cultural thing, and you’d need a lot of movement culturally — a lot — to make a dent.

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besser tot als rot on December 13, 2012 at 6:50 PM

I admit I use to watch Chris Mathews when he first started hardball. But something happen to him in 2006. He lead his show with the Larry Craig bathroom story 44 days in a row before the election. Ever since then he has become more and more insane. I really think he has mental issues. His response to the first debate when Obama sucked was hilarious but also disturbing.

brewcrew67 on December 13, 2012 at 6:50 PM

Let me just say this in terms no one is going to misunderstand: Chris Matthews is a slime. He is the worst of the worst when it comes to biased over-the-top liberal “journalists”, and he is nothing more than a cheerleader for Obama and the Left. The man is totally unqualified to even be remotely considered to be an objective journalist and he will engage in everything from character assassination to out and out lying just so as to make sure liberals are always heard and conservatives are basically shut out and shut up.

I will say it again: Chris Matthews is a SLIME!

pilamaye on December 13, 2012 at 6:51 PM

Journal – heh. Journey.

besser tot als rot on December 13, 2012 at 6:51 PM

Chrissy is like The Everlasting Gobstopper of Stupidity.

dddave on December 13, 2012 at 6:53 PM

Maybe, just maybe, those who posit that there won’t be a 2016 election are onto something.

OldEnglish on December 13, 2012 at 6:54 PM

Allah,

Philip Anschutz tried to that with newspaper when he bought the San Francisco Examiner. After he bought that newspaper the opened up the Washington Examiner and then the Baltimore Examiner. His original goal was to have like 20 plus examiners around the county. The only one that is left is the Washington Examiner.

All I can say its easier said then done.

Lance Murdock on December 13, 2012 at 6:54 PM

Matthews isn’t certifiable, but may be getting close. His latched onto niche is harder and harder to support, and I expect he’ll be retired soon.

bill glass on December 13, 2012 at 6:55 PM

This is all about delegitimizing the right….

Said it before .Gonna say it again.
This is a time old tactic by thugocracies of dehumanizing and demonizing thier opponents with the next steps being isolation then persecution.
It’s.
Coming.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on December 13, 2012 at 6:55 PM

“… because there’s suddenly, and seemingly oddly, a lot of “the media is too right-wing” idiocy about.”

Remember when George Stephanopoulos ‘oddly‘ inquired about contraception in the GOP debates…?

… And MSNBC was just at the White House, too.

Now this…

“This is all about delegitimizing the right…”

… Yup!

Seven Percent Solution on December 13, 2012 at 6:56 PM

Looks like MSNBC isn’t working for ya, hey Chrisy..:)

idesign on December 13, 2012 at 6:56 PM

Republicans should have poured (and, I suppose, still could do so in the foreseeable future) that $1 billion spent on behalf of Romney’s Presidential hopes into a conservative academic enterprise (like one or more new colleges) coupled with a conservative journalistic corporation (that would use numerous media mediums) …

Allah, can you arrange for the smoke-filled room and necessary major contributors? ;-)

ShainS on December 13, 2012 at 6:59 PM

Chrissy must have seen O’Reilly’s viewer numbers again.

scalleywag on December 13, 2012 at 6:59 PM

That’s where I think Glen Reynolds was a little too myopic in his article. It would take quite a bit movement to affect a single election, or primary, etc. The goal really has to be more subtle and long term (which is why the women’s magazine part is a good idea).

If the hypothetical financiers are dedicated over the long ter, (like the leftists were in the 60′s), you can begin a cultural shift to the point that the conservative view is no longer seen as extreme. If its done subtly and gradually enough, there wouldn’t really be anything overt for the leftists to push back against.

And as long as the low-information voter-type person is entertained, they won’t care. We need to begin to change the narrative.

right of the dial on December 13, 2012 at 7:00 PM

some of this starts with bravery. Rs should see every TV moment as an opportunity to tell the truth about the corruption of the barry.media, the beltwary, and the Left.

part of the corruption is that the anchors are highly paid personalities who often are connected with family in high paid lobbying or high paid government jobs.

Rs must use words like conflict of interest, corruption, and talk about the progressive world view that results in the apparatus living in gated communicates. The left is actually quite reactionary and close minded….bigoted.

Words must be used public ally. Now, Rs will quiver with fear…about telling the truth…they like their jobs and think that you can’t piss off someone who buys ink by the barrel

also…we must Boycott. The left has been very successful boycotting companies. We must make companies fear us too

r keller on December 13, 2012 at 7:01 PM

I will say it again: Chris Matthews is a SLIME!

pilamaye on December 13, 2012 at 6:51 PM

+1.

In DC, as i wrote earlier, the current administration is the nicest, most inclusive, honest and kind people you could meet.

Well, if compared with what is in newsrooms.

I agree with Bill O. we need affirmative action to get right wing people in new jobs. Imagine what they would be put through, he he he.

Teacher scholastic has a web page I was asked to read on black inventors. It was very nice until they asked kids to relate how awful it must have been for blacks in those jobs. I wonder if scholastic ever asked rich whites about the stress of investing their own money and high opportunity cost time in new ideas with no guarantees? Then the stress of getting approval from the FDA, FAA, USPTO, State Environmental zealots, local zoning boards…

An example of what they ask kids after saying that “nobody like you” had a job like that:

“Imagine how hard you would have to work to prove yourself. Type your ideas into this form and submit your work.

My psychologist says you brainwash kids with questions like that.

IlikedAUH2O on December 13, 2012 at 7:04 PM

Does this surprise anyone?

The National Socialist Left’s meme de jour is that someone grounded in the reality of the ever deepening debt crisis is ‘out of touch’.

Now the reality of a far-left leaning media is not really reality…. Or something… I must admit I can’t wrap my head around the left’s level of insanity.

Chip on December 13, 2012 at 7:04 PM

That Corn guy is just so friggin’ creepy. It’s a perfect match for Tingles because he’s bat-spit crazy.

sgtstogie on December 13, 2012 at 7:04 PM

Moonbat extraordinaire.

Resist We Much on December 13, 2012 at 7:05 PM

When he really gets going it seems like he’s chemically enhanced. He might also be a bit unhinged but I think he’s tanked on something when he starts up about dogwhistles and amps himself up to orgasm.

CorporatePiggy on December 13, 2012 at 7:05 PM

A good start would be to enact an ethics rule in the House forbidding House members from employing anyone who has worked at a large media outlet for a period of the past five years. This will hurt Democrats fifty times more than Republicans, help close the revolving door between media and politics, and take half the jobs Democrats dangle in front of reporters to get good coverage off the table.

Sekhmet on December 13, 2012 at 7:06 PM

In the end, the only thing left standing will be the Right.

Bmore on December 13, 2012 at 7:08 PM

also…we must Boycott. The left has been very successful boycotting companies. We must make companies fear us too

r keller on December 13, 2012 at 7:01 PM

Do we get to be “boisterous” and tear down tents, punch people out and have the media ignore it.

IlikedAUH2O on December 13, 2012 at 7:08 PM

That Corn guy is just so friggin’ creepy. It’s a perfect match for Tingles because he’s bat-spit crazy.

sgtstogie on December 13, 2012 at 7:04 PM

Corn is the guy, who long ago said that Kathleen Willey’s on-the-verge-of-being-bankrupt husband would not have committed suicide if she had been a good, little wifey and stayed home that day instead of traveling to the White House to ask Bill Clinton for a job so that she could help out her family, financially.

Don’t even ask. We already KNOW what would happen to any non-Prog that said such. #WaronWomen!

Resist We Much on December 13, 2012 at 7:11 PM

Breitbart drops dead and yet this idiot continues to breathe. God forgive me, I pray for the day Matthews is dead.

teacherman on December 13, 2012 at 7:11 PM

This is all about delegitimizing the right, sometimes on the micro level, as with the Crowder incident, and sometimes the macro, as with Matthews’s shpiel here.

Exactly.

Question: How would those magazines maintain their public reputation as “objective” or “neutral” once the left’s hatchet men went to work on them?

By being objective and neutral. The lies can hinder only growth. Anyone actually subscribing to the magazine, say, because they can trust it, will keep subscribing because they can trust it.

Compare Fox numbers to the other guys.

Can neutrality be maintained then?

Yes!

My value system is different from a lefty’s value system. I can’t lie if I want to. If telling the truth is going to make me look like an idiot, I have to look like an idiot. If I’m wrong, I have to admit it. I can’t allow myself to be used, even by my friends; I have to critique the good guys as well.

When you say partisan conservative media, you are saying unbiased to begin with. If that’s not the case, you are talking about party hacks, and they aren’t conservative.

Axe on December 13, 2012 at 7:11 PM

The goal of the 0bama regime and the left, is the total destruction of the GOP and a one party fascist state.

This is just a continuation of the propaganda war, the beginning of a process that will end when all conservative messages become illegal.

Rebar on December 13, 2012 at 7:12 PM

…he needs to overdose on something or have a gun accident!

KOOLAID2 on December 13, 2012 at 7:15 PM

I keep saying grab Disney, and you get a ton of cultural capital. But a good thing to grab would be game publishing companies. More people play games than watch the news. Start sprinkling pro-conservative messages into the games.

Iblis on December 13, 2012 at 7:17 PM

He’s trying desperately to move the needle. Romney was the most liberal candidate the incompetent Republican Party has ever run. By painting the Romney micro-era as the most intolerant manifestation of Conservatism ever, Matthews thinks it will make Republicans cave even further, and think that they have to become even more liberal in order to win elections.

Don’t fall for it.

I find it repugnant that the Republican establishment has responded to, at least, the last twelve years by thinking that if it moves further to the Left, that will help. No it won’t. We’ll end up like the UK. A one-party country, with only different brands of socialism.

WhatSlushfund on December 13, 2012 at 7:17 PM

Chris Matthews – Just what MSNBC needs: a crazy old extremist with a drinking problem who dyes his hair blond.

bw222 on December 13, 2012 at 7:19 PM

Journal – heh. Journey.

besser tot als rot on December 13, 2012 at 6:51 PM

Nah. The first one was classic Hot Gas comment. +100.

platypus on December 13, 2012 at 7:22 PM

also…we must Boycott. The left has been very successful boycotting companies. We must make companies fear us too

r keller on December 13, 2012 at 7:01 PM

With the exception of sports, I have not watched NBC, ABC or CBS for years. I watched CNN’s primary coverage because FNC’s is so bad.

bw222 on December 13, 2012 at 7:23 PM

Me thinks,DemoRatTards need Anger Management,
or a Straight Jacket!

And,Partisan Politics,who is thee Team,that
acts like Zombies,
Parrots repititous yapping lines,and Locked-Stepped Talking
Points!!

Oh,and the Marxist Socialist Media Too!!

canopfor on December 13, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Moonbat loons all across the country believe they can do anything without repercussion, including destroy the GOP. Permanent one party rule is a century long goal.

Speakup on December 13, 2012 at 7:24 PM

I will say it again: Chris Matthews is a SLIME!

pilamaye on December 13, 2012 at 6:51 PM

That’s not right, the slime’s feelings are hurt now! You apologize this instant! :)

scalleywag on December 13, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Koch brothers should buy up Disney stock, fire “Flaming”Sam, “Short” George and “I have trouble with women” Josh on GMA, put someone with more character on the show. I miss Tony Snow.

Drill and Fill on December 13, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Nah. The first one was classic Hot Gas comment. +100.

platypus on December 13, 2012 at 7:22 PM

platypus:Btw,I didn’t get to respond,thanks for the mouse tip,
much appreciated!:)

canopfor on December 13, 2012 at 7:26 PM

…there’s suddenly, and seemingly oddly, a lot of “the media is too right-wing” idiocy about.

Could it be what the gathering of thieves at the WH last week was about. New marching orders for his propagandists from the lord and savior. The only thing stopping BHO from anything and everything is free speech? Must……kill…….it….

old school on December 13, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Chrissie and Mike Malloy need to share a straightjacket together.

jeffinsjvca on December 13, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Ace claims it’s time for the right to build its own media — not a self-styled alternative to the mainstream media, a la Fox News, but a media of its own

POSTED AT 6:40 PM ON DECEMBER 13, 2012 BY ALLAHPUNDIT

Complaining about media bias is like working the refs. Refs have a bias towards big market teams, the home team (and whichever mob boss they are on the payroll for). Of course, all self-respecting players work the refs to gain a few points and keep them honest. What Ace and Reynolds are now suggesting is to build an entire playing strategy around the refs, buy them off, flop around like Euro-weenie soccer players and hope to be gifted a few games. Don’t worry about practice or improving your team. The exact wrong lesson to learn from a resounding electoral defeat.

sauldalinsky on December 13, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Philip Anschutz tried to that with newspaper when he bought the San Francisco Examiner. After he bought that newspaper the opened up the Washington Examiner and then the Baltimore Examiner. His original goal was to have like 20 plus examiners around the county. The only one that is left is the Washington Examiner.

All I can say its easier said then done.

Lance Murdock on December 13, 2012 at 6:54 PM

Wrong medium. Newspapers – and magazines for that matter – are as dead as the trees thay are printed from. Show me ONE paper that is increasing its circulation.

bw222 on December 13, 2012 at 7:35 PM

the three amigos

blech

cmsinaz on December 13, 2012 at 7:35 PM

I don’t need to hear one word of what Chrissy says because it’s all the same anymore.If I want to hear the right get slammed (as it should) I come here.Chrissy thinks he has found his niche to get paid.Apparently being laughed at and ridiculed by most Americans doesn’t bother him at all.Says alot about his character.SLIME is a good start.

docflash on December 13, 2012 at 7:42 PM

You know what we really could use around here. How about a national campaign to remind America that we are in fact Americans!
In America we have this thing called “freedom of speech.” Freedom to vote one’s conscience. To speak up and speak out regardless of your politics, religious views or positions!

Seriously! A national campaign to remind Americans that it is OK to disagree! You are not suppose to go to prison for your political position! You are not suppose to be assaulted because of your political positions or religious views!

If we don’t in a big way remind ourselves of this sacred right we are close to losing it!

JellyToast on December 13, 2012 at 7:56 PM

I agree with Ace. We should own more media and not label conservative. If it’s a women’s magazine. It can cover women stories just without the liberal slant. Same with comedy. Jon Stewart doesn’t label himself a liberal comedian…..he’s just a comedian who happens to be a liberal.

terryannonline on December 13, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Isn’t there some “law” out there that states that any foundation that is not begun as intentionally conservative will devolve into liberalism? Same thing is true of media I think. The Journalism schools were intentionally taken over by lefties who I intentionally began pumping out lefty journalists who, along with lefty millionaires, took over the media. It was a slow and celebrate process that got us here — we’re not going to counter it with neutrality.

Also, if the MSM is going to label any neutral media as “right-wing” then why not just be right wing?

29Victor on December 13, 2012 at 8:23 PM

This guy actually worked for Tip O’Neill!

He obviously did not learn ANYTHING about politics from one of the best politicians in modern history.

I think Tip would ask him “WTH is wrong with you?”

ccrosby on December 13, 2012 at 8:31 PM

I don’t think it’s something that’d be solved by having Rupert Murdoch buy up a bunch of papers. It’s a cultural thing, and you’d need a lot of movement culturally — a lot — to make a dent.

Not completely “solved” obviously but it wouldn’t hurt, either. The issue is not that more Conservative-friendly (or at least objective) wouldn’t work but that it takes time. It wouldn’t happen overnight, just like the current state of the media didn’t happen overnight, either.

cicerone on December 13, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Chris Matthews and the rest of PMSNBC have their own “Overton Window”.

They can damn well keep it to themselves.

listens2glenn on December 13, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Matthews: What we need is a media that’s more biased against conservatives

Is that even possible?

hawkdriver on December 13, 2012 at 9:19 PM

There is a reason Bill Ayers and many of his Weather Underground terrorist cohort went into education.

Leftists control the MSM and the schools. Decades of indoctrination have shifted the electorate significantly to the left.

We must deal with both problems. We need to go Alinsky on major media types and make broader attacks on their institutions. We must make school choice a reality and begin to educate the coming generations in charter schools, outside the grasp of union teachers and their leftist agendas.

We have been playing for the next election, while the Left has been playing for the next generation.

novaculus on December 13, 2012 at 9:26 PM

We need to go Alinsky on major media types and make broader attacks on their institutions. We must make school choice a reality and begin to educate the coming generations in charter schools, outside the grasp of union teachers and their leftist agendas.

novaculus on December 13, 2012 at 9:26 PM

Dream on.

If your children are not taught the basic principles of Conservatism in the home to begin with…

I cannot see it happening that future generations would be educated by conservatives within the system…

The only thing to do is home schooling from this point on.

Open more conservative schools and leave the left to theirs.

There isn’t gonna be any ‘infiltration’…

Why, I want to ask, since I am not from here, but have observed the downfall of Conservatism as a whole, has Conservatism fallen out of favour? Why hasn’t anything been done before now to stop the left?

My inquiring mind wants to know… :-)

Scrumpy on December 13, 2012 at 10:07 PM

hawkdriver on December 13, 2012 at 9:19 PM

We ain’t seen nuthin’ yet, sad to say it’s gonna get much much worse.

Scrumpy on December 13, 2012 at 10:08 PM

It’s a cultural thing, and you’d need a lot of movement culturally — a lot — to make a dent.

But this is really at the core of what Glenn and Ace are proposing. We can’t make any real cultural movements unless we start taking the culture on at its base. Buy these institutions and start addressing the soccer moms in such a way that they start paying attention. Give them a dose of grass-roots conservatism, and objective news reporting. Get the truth in front of them. That is what starts the cultural change that is so necessary.

And, yes, the Left would go nuclear on these voices. They despise the truth. It is their kryptonite. But if there were enough deep pockets to weather the storm, it would be a battle well worth fighting.

nukemhill on December 13, 2012 at 11:09 PM

When you read the things Matthews says you really have to ask yourself, “is he in the real world?” I don’t believe the media could be any MORE biased against conservatives. Let’s face it, we don’t have many newspapers, let alone “major” newspapers. We only have Fox News at a cable outlet, and we have talk radio and that’s not exclusive.

What liberals like Matthews want is a monopoly where conservatives have NO voice. This is why they call them socialists. Remember, the Nazi’s were the National Socialist Party and they really didn’t disavow their “socialist” aspect.

bflat879 on December 14, 2012 at 12:11 AM

Still, Chrissie will never be the man Rachel is.
Never.

FlaMurph on December 14, 2012 at 1:05 AM

Chris, you are an IDIOT. There that about covers it.

old war horse on December 14, 2012 at 1:34 AM

So basically, AP, you are saying it’s hopeless.

Cindy Munford on December 14, 2012 at 1:44 AM

Matthews is a POS I simply detest. The political tide can turn in an instant and conservatives must act smartly and persistently to remove this parasitic liberal scum from the nation’s capitol.

rplat on December 14, 2012 at 2:49 AM

Keep in mind one or two voices can be easily isolated. You get a couple more and it is much harder to isolate. They can play off each other.

Just look how CNN played harmful SNL clips of Palin.

The media is the root of our problem. With it we can expose the second core problem, the educational system.

Fight, boycott, take over, replace the media.
School choice.

We need those two now or we get one party rule by the Party of slavery.

We also need to only pay for math and science classes in university. No more hate studies. We just need ONE video from a hate studies class and we can do it.

Cameras in all class rooms!

No NGO funding.

GardenGnome on December 14, 2012 at 9:58 AM