Great news: Jimmy Carter on board with pot legalization

posted at 2:01 pm on December 12, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Actually, I’d advise marijuana legalization fans not to get terribly excited by this clip from the former President, who literally did nothing but talk about this issue when he had four years to do so.  In fact, Jimmy Carter starts off by reminding everyone that he called for the decriminalization — “not the legalization” — of marijuana during his single term in office, but never quite gets around to the fact that the one speech was the only effort he made.  After that, Carter manages to confuse the issue with the death penalty and the fact that rich white guys don’t get executed, which has nothing much to do with marijuana prohibition at all, except in Carter’s mind:

The Hill makes Carter sound more coherent:

“I’m in favor of it. I think it’s OK,” Carter said at the forum, which was taped Friday. “I don’t think it’s going to happen in Georgia yet, but I think we can watch and see what happens in the state of Washington, for instance around Seattle, and let the American government and let the American people see does it cause a serious problem or not.”

Carter added that he thought it was appropriate to allow states like Washington and Colorado — which voted last month to legalize recreational marijuana use — to see how marijuana legalization would look. …

The former president added that he did not think that legalizing drugs would lead to more drug users.

“All drugs were decriminalized in Portugal a few years ago and the use of drugs has gone down dramatically and nobody has been put in prison,” Carter said.

Well, no one being put in prison goes hand in hand with decriminalization, so that’s not exactly a metric on which to rely.  Carter’s right about Portugal’s rate of addiction, although the methodology might not transfer well to the US:

Health experts in Portugal said Friday that Portugal’s decision 10 years ago to decriminalise drug use and treat addicts rather than punishing them is an experiment that has worked.

“There is no doubt that the phenomenon of addiction is in decline in Portugal,” said Joao Goulao, President of the Institute of Drugs and Drugs Addiction, a press conference to mark the 10th anniversary of the law.

The number of addicts considered “problematic” — those who repeatedly use “hard” drugs and intravenous users — had fallen by half since the early 1990s, when the figure was estimated at around 100,000 people, Goulao said.

The decline doesn’t come from decriminalization itself, but from enforced treatment for addicts:

A law that became active on July 1, 2001 did not legalise drug use, but forced users caught with banned substances to appear in front of special addiction panels rather than in a criminal court.

The panels composed of psychologists, judges and social workers recommended action based on the specifics of each case.

Since then, government panels have recommended a response based largely on whether the individual is an occasional drug user or an addict.

Of the nearly 40,000 people currently being treated, “the vast majority of problematic users are today supported by a system that does not treat them as delinquents but as sick people,” Goulao said.

In order to achieve these results, we would have to involuntarily commit addicts to treatment even though drug use has been “decriminalized.”  I suspect that civil libertarians who cheer legalization might have a few issues with this idea.


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I vote for federalism.

rbj on April 12, 2013 at 4:43 PM

I am not pro-reefer, and I vote against these things in my state (it seems like all sorts of people who are not sick have medical marijuana cards). But if it is passed by voters, I am very cautious about the feds overriding what the people have passed at a state level.

mwbri on April 12, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Obama: “No WAY, duuuuuude!”

Ward Cleaver on April 12, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Federalism. Perhaps marijuana can be useful after all. Maybe it will force both congress and the courts to move towards federalism.

NotCoach on April 12, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Wrong tack…coach it as: either enforce fed laws over state laws on drugs like u claim u do on immigration or let the states handle both….

Rogue on April 12, 2013 at 4:49 PM

If states can have different gun laws, they can have different drug laws.

Federalism!

Seven Seas on April 12, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Choom for me, but not for thee

famous amos on April 12, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Federalism. The feds should focus on its expressed duties and quit usurping the States.

AH_C on April 12, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Great to see the GOP standing up for Federalism

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antifederalist on April 12, 2013 at 4:50 PM

The Federal Government would never go after a state trying to deal with it’s problems legislatively. Just ask the people of Arizona….

brainy435 on April 12, 2013 at 4:51 PM

Three GOP reps to Obama: Stop these pro-marijuana states from violating federal law

The stupid, it hurtsssss!

Archivarix on April 12, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Obama enforce federal laws? What R U smoking?

LetsBfrank on April 12, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Wrong tack…coach it as: either enforce fed laws over state laws on drugs like u claim u do on immigration or let the states handle both….

Rogue on April 12, 2013 at 4:49 PM

How exactly is immigration not a federal issue? I don’t have a problem with states enforcing their own laws on the issue because they have a vested interest in dealing with illegals. But that does not follow that the federal government has no place on the issue. These are people coming into the country from outside the nation, and they are crossing state lines.

NotCoach on April 12, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Dopey Hopey

Schadenfreude on April 12, 2013 at 4:55 PM

The police power belongs to the states only. If the feds want to ban sales across state lines, that’s fine…but federalism, ‘kay?

Othniel on April 12, 2013 at 4:55 PM

if Washington federalism irritates Alabama and Virginia, then Olympia needs more of it (accidental though it may be).

Jeddite on April 12, 2013 at 4:55 PM

That picture is your president, fools of the world.

Schadenfreude on April 12, 2013 at 5:01 PM

Since pot destroys lungs like nothing else and, thanks to Obamacare, I pay for the results of that damage, enforce the anti-pot laws.

In a sane world, a person would live free to smoke all the pot they wanted (and die free after being shot for stealing munchie-money).

ROCnPhilly on April 12, 2013 at 5:03 PM

There is only one conservative position, and it’s the one espoused by Clarence Thomas in his dissent a few years back.

notropis on April 12, 2013 at 5:06 PM

Three GOP reps to Obama: Stop these pro-marijuana states from violating federal law

Obama to three GOP Reps: Quit harshing my buzz, man.

LegendHasIt on April 12, 2013 at 5:13 PM

All drugs should be legal. Cuts down on robberies, burglaries, etc. Frees up court, jail and prison space. Less costs for judges, prosecutors, public defenders, police officers, federal agents, state agents, etc. Less retirement & medical costs for previous list. Why are drugs illegal anyway?!?

Karmi on April 12, 2013 at 5:20 PM

If this becomes another cause for social conservatives who are already irritated by the GOP’s softening on gay marriage, maybe the pro-pot faction will run away.

If a pol is pro-pot, does that make him a pol pot?

Steve Z on April 12, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Dave’s Not Here.

Del Dolemonte on April 12, 2013 at 5:26 PM

GOP Congressmen: Screw your Federalism! I’m in charge! I’m not about to be usurped by some state assembly anymore than I am by the will of the people!

Wait…

Sgt Steve on April 12, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Federalism.

Sadly, the marijuana issue shows that many so-called conservatives are just as willing to violate the constitution when it’s convenient for them as are liberals.

Either you believe in federalism or you don’t. If you think the Feds should crack down on states that legalize marijuana within their own borders, you don’t believe in federalism, so don’t pretend.

thirteen28 on April 12, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Let the states handle the pot laws.
Impeach any federal pol that won’t deal with the illegal alien problemper the law they have sworn to enforce.

DanMan on April 12, 2013 at 5:51 PM

GOP smaller government.

beatcanvas on April 12, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Hmm… it ate my brackets. How about this then:

GOP =/= smaller government.

beatcanvas on April 12, 2013 at 5:52 PM

Where those 3 in defending Brewer and border states?
That is the Feds job they don’t do and ignore..then attack
the Gov’s for doing their job. But weed…Federalism is suddenly important. Funny how they pick and choose. lol

The GOP-you wanna win some much needed ground?
It isn’t ghey SSM or pandering to minorities..
get behind the states and decriminalize weed.

I am all for it.
The history behind “refer madness” is quite interesting
and the Govt propaganda that promoted it.
Hint* had to do with Race and minorities.

Even Palin hinted that LE needs to use resources and focus on real crime..not the doobie guy. As one who is prescribed tons of meds for a condition..the pills I take are way worse then smoking some weed. The hysteria about weed, amuses me.

bazil9 on April 12, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Impeach any federal pol that won’t deal with the illegal alien problemper the law they have sworn to enforce.

DanMan on April 12, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Why Dan, is the Man.

bazil9 on April 12, 2013 at 5:57 PM

In a sane world, a person would live free to smoke all the pot they wanted (and die free after being shot for stealing munchie-money).

ROCnPhilly on April 12, 2013 at 5:03 PM

I hang out by the local bingo parlor and mug any old bat more feeble than myself.
Those Godiva chocolates aren’t cheap.

katy the mean old lady on April 12, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Dave’s Not Here.

goin’ downtown
goin’ to see my gal
goin’ to sing her a song
goin’ to show her my dahing dong

that Blind Melon Chitlin’ had the screw before DJ was born

DanMan on April 12, 2013 at 6:00 PM

All drugs should be legal. Cuts down on robberies, burglaries, etc. Frees up court, jail and prison space. Less costs for judges, prosecutors, public defenders, police officers, federal agents, state agents, etc. Less retirement & medical costs for previous list. Why are drugs illegal anyway?!?

Karmi on April 12, 2013 at 5:20 PM

Stimulus.

rhombus on April 12, 2013 at 6:03 PM

“Three GOP reps to Obama: Stop these pro-marijuana states from violating federal law”

…have no fear, OBOZO will get right on that immediately after he starts enforcing US immigration laws.

TeaPartyNation on April 12, 2013 at 6:04 PM

“Three GOP reps to Obama: Stop these pro-marijuana states from violating federal law”

…have no fear, OBOZO will get right on that immediately after he starts enforcing US immigration laws.

TeaPartyNation on April 12, 2013 at 6:04 PM

—-BTW: can you spell “I-M-P-E-A-C-H-A-B-L-E O-F-F-E-N-S-E”?

TeaPartyNation on April 12, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Karmi on April 12, 2013 at 5:20 PM

Stimulus.

rhombus on April 12, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Jobs…majority being Govt jobs and bene’s.
War on drugs is very profitable..for both sides.

bazil9 on April 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM

katy the mean old lady on April 12, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Wow. You are mean. lol

ROCnPhilly on April 12, 2013 at 6:14 PM

IT IS REAL SIMPLE

If you support alcohol being legal, the STFU about marijuana. What is the average ratio of calls that local law enforcement receive on a nightly basis that are ALCOHOL related?? Weed related?? Yeah I thought so.

I’ll be at the 1st ever US Cannabis Cup next week in Colorado. AP if you want to ask me about it for the post that I’m sure you’ll write up about it, feel free.

jephthah on April 12, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Either you’re for the 10th amendment or not.

ratherbskiing on April 12, 2013 at 6:47 PM

Rep. Andrew Harris (R-MD.)
Rep. Frank Wolf (R-Va.)
Jo Bonner (R-Ala.)

I was born in Seattle, have lived in Washington State all my life and am proud that my state was one of the first to legalize MJ. If the three fascists listed above send their jackboots to my state to impose their views on my state, I hope that the law enforcement agents of my state will stop them, forcibly if necessary. If they can’t or won’t, if these fascists use the feds to crack down on my state, then I demand that the feds crack down on Maryland, Virginia and Alabaman! I want the feds to send their jackboots into those states and force their churches to marry gay people, whether they like it or not. If they refuse, throw them strip away their liberty and throw them in prison to rot. If these three states try to restrict abortion, all the guilty parties involved need should be subject to mandatory minimums. If a doctor in one of those three states, even at Catholic hospitals, refuse to abort babies on demand, they get three strikes and they’re out! Send them to the clink for 50 or a hundred years and throw away the keys.

If Andrew Harris, Frank Wolf and Jo Bonner (R-Ala.) want to make war on my state, I want to make war on theirs!

FloatingRock on April 12, 2013 at 7:48 PM

These three Congressman perfectly represent why people scoff when we try to convince them the GOP is the party of small government and liberty. As long as this party is led by people who first and foremost want to act as the morality police, we will LOSE.

Reggie1971 on April 12, 2013 at 8:34 PM

Marijuana can be legally possessed with a federal license. You get a stamp to put on your packaging, like the cigarette tax stamp.

They rarely grant it, only e.g. to “researchers,” but that’s the long and short of it.

That’s how weed was made illegal: it was licensed, and few licenses are granted.

When something is licensed, like dentistry, it is illegal to do it, sell it, or possess it w/o the license.

There is no need for new laws to “legalize” weed. The feds just need to start granting licenses to applicants. They could then regulate how the substance is possessed and distributed: no license needed for people with less than .x oz. License required for over .x oz. No one under xx years of age may possess. Etc. Easy.

Akzed on April 12, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Federalism. 10th amendment. A chance for the Republican party to stand by a simple, Constitutional message — and one that happens in this case to resonate strongly with young voters.

SunSword on April 13, 2013 at 7:42 AM

I say go for the BIG ONE!

Let’s force this to the supreme court and overturn Wickard vs Filburn!

Freddy on April 13, 2013 at 2:19 PM