Good villains and he gets the Star Trek funny.

I’ll see it.

I did not know that a new movie was coming out and only the vaguest idea of the story. I suspect that, while it may be well done and be entertaining, it is likely going to play some hob with the ST universe again.

After saving the Earth, the Federation, and the Universe a few times, I suspect a series would be kind of out of the question. But maybe nobody really expects to be able to make a series out of Star Trek anymore. Oh well.

As I understand it, the first “reboot” film dumped us in an alternate timeline where all that 60′s Star Trek stuff NEVER HAPPENED.

Explain where this guy comes from.

I liked that 6 of 9 chick.

MechanicalBill on December 10, 2012 at 11:02 PM

Her name was Seven of Nine.

And she’s the reason Obama is President.

Really.

There is a true -life tale there, and it end’s with Obama in the White House.

You can look it up.

And for that, I forgave DS9 for being a complete ripoff of Babylon 5.

Does Spock get married in this one? If so, who’s the groom?

The baddie is KAHN, played by Benedict Cumberbatch…BBC’s current Sherlock Holmes. If this movie is anything like the last one, AND we get Cumberbatch, it will not suck.

I can’t say I’m a full fledged Trekker, but I loved the old series and TNG (major hat tip to my favorite Trek nerd, Wil Wheaton!). But I thought Abrams did a good job with the reboot, and this one just seems to be more of his types of decisions. So, I’m in.

Cumberbatch and Pegg…. Tickeddragon, happy.

Crossing my fingers…..it can’t be worse than the original reboot……can it???

(lol…we true Trek fans are easily seperated from our money)

I have the inside scoop so let me tell all…We begin by meeting young Hawkeye Pierce sitting on a barstool in the local pub in Crabapple Cove Maine. Most of the other customers are students from Harvard Medical School. Hawkeye tries to flirt with attractive nursing student “Hot Lips” Houlihan, when suddenly young Frank Burns comes up and punches him in the nose.

After the brawl is over, Doctor Henry Blake (who is the students chaperone) talks to Pierce “Son your dad was the greatest surgeon I’ve ever known, he died in a trench at Verdun trying to save the life of a horse that had been hit by mustard gas…I challenge you to do better!” We learn that Hawkeye’s dad had been killed by a rogue German Corporal named Hitler.

The next morning Hawkeye gets on a bus with all the other students and go’s off to Harvard Medical School. On the bus Hawkeye meets a young kid who tells him that his dad lost the farm in Iowa investing in something called the Radar Range, and now he has to go to Harvard to learn to be a file clerk, the nickname sticks

We don’t learn much about what happens for the next couple years but we get the idea Pierce spends most of his time drinking martini’s and chasing nurses. This eventually gets him hauled up in front of Dean Wormer. Just before they can put him on double secret probation, a giant video screen lights up and President Roosevelt announces that the Germans have bombed Pearl Harbor.

The entire student body of Harvard University immediately board buses and heads off Hawaii where Hawkeye is appointed head of surgery

But he’s not. The timeline changed which they made abundently clear. The old Kirk grew up with his father’s influence and the new Kirk didn’t. Even that was made clear in the new movie. IN TOS Kirk didn’t meet Spock until he took command of the Enterprise but in the new one they meet while Kirk was still training. The old Kirk took over the Enterprise after Pike had already had it for many years. Nero changed everything and Kirk ends up with basically a battlefield promotion. Yes, vastly changed from the original but also laid out pretty well as to the how and why.

Frank Enstine on December 11, 2012 at 9:02 AM

I know he’s not. In fact, him not being the Classic Kirk would actually have given them the ability to tell an interesting Star Trek like story had they bothered to explore that nature vs. nurture, fate vs. free will kind of thing, particularly once Old Spock showed up and gave him a glimpse of who he could have been.

But they don’t do that because they’re too busy treating him like he is the Classic Kirk. All the characters talk about him like he is the Classic Kirk, to the point of Old Spock even treating him like he’s the younger version of the guy he knew. The problem is that his actions not only fail to reflect that, but also often actively refute it. That’s “Show, Don’t Tell” failing in spectacular fashion, since the Show and Tell are actually opposed to each other.

The writers see him as the Classic Kirk, so they write it like he is. They know he’s supposed to be captain at the end of this thing, so they have to Mary Sue him along so that he can be captain. It’s how badly they suck at writing that they can’t even write their own characters, and part of the reason the semi-alternate reality thing was such a huge cop-out.

More importantly, even if they actually had the stones to write an honest to God prequel with the younger Classic Kirk acting in the manner we expect Kirk to act and earning his way the whole movie, I’d still have trouble accepting he went from disgraced cadet to captain of the flagship like that.

@cptacek – The idea was that Nero’s interference with space-time changed everything about everyone’s lives. Spock put it best:

“Nero’s very presence has altered the flow of history, beginning with the attack on the U.S.S. Kelvin, culminating in the events of today, thereby creating an entire new chain of incidents that cannot be anticipated by either party…Whatever our lives might have been, if the time continuum was disrupted, our destinies have changed.”

mrsknightley on December 11, 2012 at 10:39 AM

Sure. I guess I don’t get the subtly, though. I suppose it is the whole butterfly in Africa causes a hail storm in Kansas thing.

Everyone please calm down. I loved Star Trek decades ago, and I enjoy this reimagining of the series because I understand that the idea is bigger than just a fan’s angry attitude of “if it ain’t Shatner, it’s crap”. Nobody’s betraying you. If anything, they’re remembering you and your love of a great idea.

Ken Gentner on December 11, 2012 at 10:09 AM

And this.

I am a life-long Trekkie. The reboot was a masterful homage to the original series and subsequent spinoffs, without being maudlin or creepy. Chris Pine is the perfect new Kirk. Cheeky, bold, sexy, smart. The rest of the cast – just wonderful characterizations that back in the 60′s we could only dream about.

JJ Abrams – you go, dude.

“Nero’s very presence has altered the flow of history, beginning with the attack on the U.S.S. Kelvin, culminating in the events of today, thereby creating an entire new chain of incidents that cannot be anticipated by either party…Whatever our lives might have been, if the time continuum was disrupted, our destinies have changed.”

To all these whining fans that dream about Trek in the 60′s, get a life and watch/comment on something else! Enjoy the fact that Star Trek lives on. Unlike most of you idiots, I grew up in the sixties and enjoyed the show than and enjoy the new characters now. May you all fall into a black hole and never be heard of again.

whsiii on December 11, 2012 at 12:43 AM

This.

Everyone please calm down. I loved Star Trek decades ago, and I enjoy this reimagining of the series because I understand that the idea is bigger than just a fan’s angry attitude of “if it ain’t Shatner, it’s crap”. Nobody’s betraying you. If anything, they’re remembering you and your love of a great idea.

I’m glad that Marvel called in JMS to do the continuity between its major films post- X-Men. Trek needed a JMS type to do that… and after B5 it is apparent that there is only one JMS type around.

At no time is Shatner’s Kirk even close to the insufferable jackassery of New Kirk though. New Kirk is constantly talked about as though he is the clever, knowledgeable Kirk we used to know, but the movie not only never demonstrates it, but actively refutes it all the time.

CrankyTRex on December 10, 2012 at 11:39 PM

But he’s not. The timeline changed which they made abundently clear. The old Kirk grew up with his father’s influence and the new Kirk didn’t. Even that was made clear in the new movie. IN TOS Kirk didn’t meet Spock until he took command of the Enterprise but in the new one they meet while Kirk was still training. The old Kirk took over the Enterprise after Pike had already had it for many years. Nero changed everything and Kirk ends up with basically a battlefield promotion. Yes, vastly changed from the original but also laid out pretty well as to the how and why.

My favorites were the episodes where Jolene wore only the Vulcan ears.
Could we get those back by “popular demand”?
Where do I sign?

countrybumpkin on December 10, 2012 at 10:51 PM

She claims body double and considering she done nude in movies I believe her.

Even when I was a young ‘un Star Trek pretty much lost me whenever they showed a distressed Star-ship Enterprise tilted in space.

Tilted in space? There isn’t up or down in outer space just towards things or away from things or placed somewhere amidst.

viking01 on December 10, 2012 at 10:39 PM

But there is in the Trek universe. What do you think all the the “Come around to 325, mark 7″ type stuff is about when they change course? There was an established up/down north/south/east/west in the Star Fleet.

I long for a lingering view of Jolene Blalock in what ever iteration of the TV series she was in.

countrybumpkin on December 10, 2012 at 10:31 PM

Best in the two part Mirror Universe story “Through a Mirror Darkly” Nice uniforms and she even looked good in the TOS uniforms.