Quotes of the day

posted at 10:40 pm on December 10, 2012 by Allahpundit

The deadline for resolving the fiscal crisis could be much closer than previously thought.

Because of the head-spinning legislative logistics involved in crafting and passing a bill, congressional Republicans and the White House really would have to get the ball rolling on a deal this week if they want to pass something by Jan. 1…

Even if Obama and Boehner somehow strike a deal by mid-week, it would take several days to write the legislation and additional time to send it over to the Congressional Budget Office so they can estimate how much deficit reduction it entails…

From there, both sides would have to get to work selling members of their own party on the package. This would be no easy feat.

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The White House and House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner’s office held more negotiations on Monday on ways to break the “fiscal cliff” stalemate, although neither side showed any public signs that they were ready to give ground

“I think the atmospherics are getting so much better. We have kind of gotten out of Kabuki theater and gone to dancing the tango,” [Erskine] Bowles told CNBC on Monday. “Any time you start to tango you’ve got a chance.”

Bowles said he did not expect the president to give in on his demand that taxes rise for the top 2 percent of earners.

“I would almost guarantee that rates are going to go up for people in the top 2 percent,” he said.

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“My constituents want me to stand firm on cutting spending. I campaigned on that issue. That’s why they elected me,” said Representative Ted Poe, Republican of Texas, who won re-election with 65 percent of the vote. “I don’t see any scenario where raising tax rates, in any combination of compromise, will solve our problem.”…

“Another series of robocalls or fliers or TV ads are not going to change the opinion of my constituents,” said Representative Scott Garrett, Republican of New Jersey, who won more than 55 percent in November but still drew the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee’s attention Monday.

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Of course, any rate increase for Republicans — one that rank-and-file lawmakers could back and defend — would have to come with serious cuts to entitlement programs. And there’s no evidence President Barack Obama and Democrats have given in on any specific entitlement cuts in closed-door negotiations — especially enough to offset a rate change and an increase in the threshold for the rich.

“Both sides have to hold hands and jump on this one,” said a top Senate aide…

Democrats believe they are dealing from a place of strength in these negotiations and are unlikely to give up concessions on entitlement programs without big moves by Boehner.

“We are winning,” said a top Hill Democratic staffer. “We don’t have to give up on anything yet.”

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For Democrats, it’s easy to see what victory means: getting Republicans to raise taxes on the rich. For Republicans, it’s less dramatic. The outer edge of what they could get from Obama would be an increase in the Medicare eligibility age from 65 to 67 — maybe with some expanded means-testing of Medicare premiums for the wealthy. (There’s already some of that in Obama’s own health care reform law and in the 2003 law that created the Medicare prescription drug program.)…

“These are all good ideas … but they’re not transformational. You just can’t say, ‘Whew, we fixed it for the next generation.’ You just can’t say that,” said Douglas Holtz-Eakin, president of the American Action Forum and another former McCain adviser.

“You wanted steak, and you ended up with reheated hamburger,” Holtz-Eakin added.

So what’s the best thing to do with reheated hamburger? Prepare your base by lowering the expectations.

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The Journal editors believe that after January 1, when taxes will have gone up for everyone, House Republicans will block Democratic legislation that would cut taxes—that would restore the lower 2012 rates for the vast majority of taxpayers, fix the Alternative Minimum Tax, and for that matter would probably offer a compromise on dividends and the death tax better than what will be the new dividend rate of 39 percent and death tax of 55 percent with a $1 million exemption.

Will Republicans really oppose such legislation? President Obama will be beating the drums for this tax cut. Senate Democrats will pass this tax cut. If Senate Republicans vote against it, it won’t be “Senate Democrats running for re-election in 2014″ who will have a tax hike on their resumes. It will be Senate Republicans who will have voted against cutting taxes. And if House Republicans block such legislation, it will be they, and they alone, insisting on higher taxes.

Of course they won’t. Republicans will fold with lightning speed after we go over the tax cliff on January 1. Which is why the third of the Journal editorial’s three key paragraphs is moot. If we go over the cliff, there won’t be damage to Obama’s chances of second-term success. Quite the contrary. What Republicans will have done is to make Democrats the party of tax cuts and Obama a president fighting for economic growth.

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This is why more and more Republicans are beginning to realize that just giving President Obama what he wants on rates, and then going home, could be the best possible fiscal cliff outcome. Such a move would: 1) deny Obama more stimulus spending; 2) deny Obama the ability to move on to amnesty; 3) deny Obama a ‘grand bargain’ for his legacy; and 4) preserve conservative leverage over spending by not raising the debt ceiling.

Obama spent the entire campaign saying all he wanted was for the rich to pay a little more by returning to the Clinton rates. He could never refuse to sign such a bill if House Republicans passed one. Plus, it would be a huge conservative victory of 98 percent of the Bush tax rates were made permanent. How could anything Boehner might get out of Obama be any better?

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STEP THREE: Pass your plans. If the president refuses to negotiate and no progress is made by February, inform him that you will attach all or part of your plan to legislation raising the debt limit and pass it in the House. Then do so. Obama will sign it. Here is why:

Unlike with the fiscal cliff, Republicans have all the leverage when it comes to the debt limit. Today, Obama is perfectly willing to go over the fiscal cliff and blame the GOP for the resulting tax increases on the middle class. But when it comes to the debt limit, he does not have that luxury. He can’t default on our debt — the consequences are too catastrophic. So in the end he will cave.

Indeed, he would have caved during the last debt-limit stand-off, in the summer of 2011. According to Bob Woodward, when Obama told his advisers he intended to veto the debt-limit bill the Republican-controlled House had passed, Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner told him he couldn’t — that if Republicans didn’t give in, he had no choice but to sign their bill. “You can’t veto,” Geithner reportedly told Obama, because the consequences “would be indelible, incurable. It would last for generations.”

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“Let It Burn” is about inaction. There’s no point in trying do anything that avoids going over the fiscal cliff/sequestration. Remember, the deal that got us to this point was agreed to by House Republicans, Senate Democrats and signed by Obama. That’s as bi-partisan as it gets. I’ve heard from squishy low information voters, Obama and the media that “bi-partisan problem solving” is the Holy Grail of politics. Well, here it is.

Will it lead to massive disruptions? Yes. That’s the point. The current system is rigged against conservative[s]. We should play no part in its perpetuation. If you can’t win the game, concede and start new one. That’s the heart of Let It Burn.

This isn’t some petty “I lost so I’m taking my ball and going home” tirade. This is what people want. It’s simply not sustainable. If we can’t stop them, we don’t have to continue to enable them either.

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Cindy Munford on December 10, 2012 at 11:47 PM

Lol! No I went back for a bit.

Bmore on December 10, 2012 at 11:50 PM

It’s time to boycott all American-made products and services made/originating in blue states.

cane_loader on December 10, 2012 at 11:50 PM

Now you’re just F’in with me…

ccrosby on December 10, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Don’t take it personal. Try to be prepared but I don’t think there is much you can do.

Schadenfreude on December 10, 2012 at 11:51 PM

Evening, boys and girls! Do you know what time it is?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Not, Howdy, Howdy Doody time! It’s ‘Toony-’Toony time! ‘Triple-Header Toony-’Toony!

(I know. More lame than Barbaro. hehehe.)

‘Toon of the Day: The Debt of Infamy

(Freaky-deaky! Evidently, Ramirez and I both have the antennae on our tinfoil hats adjusted to the same frequency today!)

‘Toon of the Day 2: Laborosaurus Rex?

Nite ‘Toons: In The Pocket…

Resist We Much on December 10, 2012 at 11:51 PM

Cindy Munford on December 10, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Done.

Once from F-fox…once from IE

Solaratov on December 10, 2012 at 11:53 PM

Resist We Much on December 10, 2012 at 11:51 PM

Thanks for letting us smirk with you.

Such volens self-destructive free people there never were.

Schadenfreude on December 10, 2012 at 11:54 PM

Axe on December 10, 2012 at 11:25 PM

That’s why I said, “Generally” as opposed to always… ;p

Static IP addresses are locked to MAC Addresses where as Dyamic IP addresses are assigned on a first come first served basis off a Submask routing table of active addresses.

SWalker on December 10, 2012 at 11:28 PM

It’s not a contest man. See, this is what I hate about this band. Hey, know what? I’m out of here. Gimme my g******* tambourine. And you know what? You know what SWalker? Beth was a good song!

Axe on December 10, 2012 at 11:55 PM

Don’t take it personal. Try to be prepared but I don’t think there is much you can do.

Schadenfreude on December 10, 2012 at 11:51 PM

:-) and :-(

Hoping I can be prepared.

ccrosby on December 10, 2012 at 11:55 PM

Solaratov on December 10, 2012 at 11:53 PM

YAY!!!!

Cindy Munford on December 10, 2012 at 11:56 PM

Let. It. Burn.

The soon the disruptions, the sooner at least a few of the self-absorbed idiots will wake up.

cane_loader on December 10, 2012 at 11:39 PM

cane_loader: L.I.B:)
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http://ak4.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/743158/preview/stock-footage-statue-of-liberty-with-fire-background-waving-loop.jpg

canopfor on December 10, 2012 at 11:56 PM

I am feeling cranky and Grinchy and if anyone wants to hire me to steal down the chimbleys of Barack voters to swipe the haloed portraits off of their Bar-altars, I’ll do it for half price and dookie on their Prius on the way out!!!11!!!

cane_loader on December 10, 2012 at 11:58 PM

OT:

Just watched Brady and company turn my Texans and Bulls on Parade into Blazing Saddles. That was BFD-beating, for sure. It’s time, alas, for another cocktail. Salute, Patriots!

TXUS on December 11, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Bmore on December 10, 2012 at 11:50 PM

Oh dear, you sure did. Poor Flatfoot.

Cindy Munford on December 11, 2012 at 12:00 AM

cane_loader on December 10, 2012 at 11:58 PM

You’re just full of sh!t! :)

OldEnglish on December 11, 2012 at 12:00 AM

There will be no joy in 0bama-ville once the L.I.B. grinches have stolen the EBT cards.

cane_loader on December 11, 2012 at 12:01 AM

RWM, perhaps you can mock this hypocritical bastid on your blog:

Unqualified, except that he is a commie, an Obama azz-licker and by implication hates free America, likes her as AmeriKa.

Schadenfreude on December 11, 2012 at 12:01 AM

TXUS on December 11, 2012 at 12:00 AM

I bailed before the end of the first quarter. It was too sad.

Cindy Munford on December 11, 2012 at 12:01 AM

OT: had to have a laugh about this earlier today. The progressive elites running some of CA’s schools are GENIUSES, of the Wiley E. Coyote variety.

Perhaps the best example of the CAB issue is suburban San Diego’s Poway Unified School District, which borrowed a little more than $100 million. But “debt service will be almost $1 billion,” Lockyer says. “So, over nine times amount of the borrowing. There are worse ones, but that’s pretty bad.”

From ZH

tom daschle concerned on December 10, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Cripes! Did they get a loan from that Indian chick from Western Sky?

mrsmwp on December 11, 2012 at 12:01 AM

L.I.B….(sarc)


1. let it burn

That hurt feeling from getting dumped that you feel right in your chest or heart area. That pain you just try to fight, but it won’t go away, that’s the burning. You have to go through that hurting to get over someone. “let it burn”, don’t fight it…time will heal that pain if you just let it work it’s way through your body.
“She left me for some other guy, this sh*t is killing me”

Friend-”All I can tell you is to let it burn”

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=let%20it%20burn

canopfor on December 11, 2012 at 12:02 AM

Minute Gun

canopfor on December 10, 2012 at 11:35 PM

“minute gun” = mini gun ???

Solaratov on December 11, 2012 at 12:02 AM

Cindy Munford on December 10, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Done! They spread that money pretty thin if the winner only gets $5,000. out of $300,000 total, although that is a lot of money for a rescue to get, I imagine.

Night Owl on December 11, 2012 at 12:02 AM

SWalker on December 10, 2012 at 11:28 PM

It’s not a contest man. See, this is what I hate about this band. Hey, know what? I’m out of here. Gimme my g******* tambourine. And you know what? You know what SWalker? Beth was a good song!

Axe on December 10, 2012 at 11:55 PM

SPARKPLUG…. I can’t work with this kind of crap, where is my Perrier? Who the phuck forget to remove the damned brown M$M’s? Look my contract specifically stipulates that there will be NO brown M$M’s, I’ll be in my Bus waiting for you to fix this shit…

SWalker on December 11, 2012 at 12:03 AM

There will be no joy in 0bama-ville once the L.I.B. grinches have stolen the EBT cards.

cane_loader on December 11, 2012 at 12:01 AM

They’ll have to have it explained that:

1. The stork really doesn’t bring babies.

2. Bernanke really can’t print all that money and keep the value at par.

3. Milk doesn’t come from the grocery store

4. Santa really doesn’t exist after a certain age.

Schadenfreude on December 11, 2012 at 12:04 AM

You’re just full of sh!t! :)

OldEnglish on December 11, 2012 at 12:00 AM

No mercy for hungry 0bama voters. None. Let them live on AM/PM burgers, if they can.

cane_loader on December 11, 2012 at 12:04 AM

OT:

Just watched Brady and company turn my Texans and Bulls on Parade into Blazing Saddles. That was BFD-beating, for sure. It’s time, alas, for another cocktail. Salute, Patriots!

TXUS on December 11, 2012 at 12:00 AM

TXUS:)
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Patriots beat Texans in 42-14 game – @NBCSports

17 mins ago from profootballtalk.nbcsports.com by editor
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Patriots make statement in blowout win over Texans
Posted by Curtis Crabtree on December 10, 2012, 11:42 PM EST
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canopfor on December 11, 2012 at 12:05 AM

“Below is a historic, but relevant lesson concerning that Constitution and the philosophy upon which America was founded—a lesson government should be held to and a spirit Americans should rekindle if we’re to remain free, strong and independent. The Lesson: Congress is only the steward of OUR MONEY — money that is NOT THEIRS to give away.

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One day in the House of Representatives a bill was proposed appropriating money for a widow of a distinguished naval officer. Speeches were made supporting it. The House was about to vote when Congressman David Crockett of Tennessee arose:

“Mr. Speaker–I have as much respect for the memory of the deceased, and as much sympathy for the suffering as any man, but we must not permit our respect for the dead or our sympathies to lead us into an act of injustice to the balance of the living. I will not argue that Congress has not the power to appropriate this money as an act of charity. Every member knows it.

We have the right as individuals, to give away our own money in charity; but as members of Congress we have no right to appropriate a dollar of the public money. Some eloquent appeals have been made that it’s a debt due the deceased. Mr. Speaker, the deceased lived long after the war; he was in office to the day of his death, and I never heard that the government was in arrears to him.

“Every man here knows it’s not a debt. We cannot without the grossest corruption, appropriate this money as payment of a debt. We have not the semblance of authority to appropriate it as charity. Mr. Speaker, I’ve said we have the right to give as much money of our own as we please. I’m the poorest man on this floor. I cannot vote for this bill, but I’ll give one week’s pay to the object, and if every member of Congress will do the same, it will amount to more than the bill asks.

He took his seat. Nobody replied. The bill was soundly defeated.

Crockett later explained:

“Several years ago I was standing on the steps of the Capitol with some members of Congress, when our attention was attracted by a large fire in Georgetown. We jumped into a hack and drove there. Houses were burned and many families made houseless, and some had lost all but the clothes they had on. The weather was cold, and when I saw children suffering, I felt that something ought to be done for them. The next morning a bill was introduced appropriating $20,000 for their relief. We put aside all other business and rushed it through.

“The next summer, we began to think about the election. When riding one day in my district, I saw a man plowing and coming toward the road. I spoke to him. He replied politely, but coldly.

“I began: ‘Well friend, I’m one of those unfortunate beings called candidates and—

“I know you; you’re Colonel Crockett. I’ve seen you before, and voted for you the last time. I suppose you’re out electioneering now, but you better not waste your time or mine, I shall not vote for you again.”

“This was a sockdolger…I begged him tell me why.

“Well Colonel, it’s hardly worthwhile to waste time upon it.

I don’t see how it can be mended, but you gave a vote last winter which shows that either you have not the capacity to understand the Constitution, or that you are wanting in the honesty and firmness to be guided by it. In either case you’re not the man to represent me. I intend by it only to say that your understanding of the Constitution is very different from mine; but an understanding of the Constitution different from mine I cannot overlook, because the Constitution, to be worth anything, must be held sacred, and rigidly observed in all its provisions. The man who wields power and misinterprets it is dangerous.’

You voted for a bill to appropriate $20,000 to sufferers by fire in Georgetown. Is that true?

“Well my friend; I may as well own up. But certainly nobody will complain that a rich country like ours should give the insignificant sum of $20,000 to relieve its suffering women and children, particularly with a full and overflowing treasury, and I’m sure you would have done just the same as I did.’

“It’s not the amount, it’s the principle. In the first place, the government ought to have in the Treasury no more than enough for its legitimate purposes. But that has nothing to do with the question. The power of collecting and disbursing money at pleasure is the most dangerous power that can be entrusted to man, particularly under our system of collecting revenue by a tariff, which reaches every man in the country, no matter how poor he may be, and the poorer he is the more he pays in proportion to his means.

What’s worse, it presses upon him without his knowledge where the weight centers, for there’s not a man in the United States who can ever guess how much he pays to the government. So you see, that while you are contributing to relieve one, you are drawing it from thousands who are even worse off than he.

If you had the right to give anything, the amount was simply a matter of discretion and you had as much right to give $20,000,000 as $20,000. If you have the right to give at all; and as the Constitution neither defines charity nor stipulates the amount, you are at liberty to give to any and everything which you may believe, or profess to believe, is a charity and to any amount you may think proper. You’ll very easily perceive what a wide door this would open for fraud, corruption and favoritism, on the one hand, and for robbing the people on the other. ‘No, Colonel, Congress has no right to give charity.’

“‘Individual members may give as much of their own money as they please, but they have no right to touch a dollar of the public money for that purpose.

“‘Colonel, you have violated the Constitution in what I consider a vital point. It’s a precedent fraught with danger, for when Congress once begins to stretch its power beyond the limits of the Constitution–there is no limit to it and no security for the people. I have no doubt you acted honestly, but that does not make it better, except as far as you are personally concerned, and so you see, I cannot vote for you. You defy the Constitution.’

Resist We Much on December 11, 2012 at 12:06 AM

Schadenfreude on December 11, 2012 at 12:04 AM

I would rather see the whole electronic system go down and force the blue states to try to barter “intellectual property” to the red states in exchange for food.

Reality Bites.

cane_loader on December 11, 2012 at 12:06 AM

cane_loader on December 10, 2012 at 11:58 PM

You’re just full of sh!t! :)

OldEnglish on December 11, 2012 at 12:00 AM

OldEnglish:

Lol,and the chimneys are gonna reek,btw,6.3 in ChristChurch
the other day,and the FM DJ Prank Drama..eh:)

canopfor on December 11, 2012 at 12:07 AM

OK, I have been hearing a lot about his drinking lately.

Is it true, or is everyone just looking for something to pin on him beacuse he is turning out to be a lousy Speaker?

ccrosby on December 10, 2012 at 10:58 PM

That was funny right there. I know you meant it and I’m laughing with you. He is and has been a lousy speaker. He also looks like someones hard drinking buddy. I don’t know if it is smoking, drinking or both re Boehner’s appearance but Churchill was a hard drinker and could still do the best for England.

arnold ziffel on December 11, 2012 at 12:08 AM

Cindy Munford on December 11, 2012 at 12:01 AM

This network thing must be regional. I’m LA, you’re TX — it’s fallout from the storms maybe.

Axe on December 11, 2012 at 12:08 AM

And starve the Looters!!!

Schadenfreude on December 10, 2012 at 11:49 PM

Looters will require more immediate action than waiting for them to starve.
While that might, indeed, be amusing…their actions while starving may demand that you act rather firmly to dissuade them from their chosen course.

Shoot the ba$tard$!

Solaratov on December 11, 2012 at 12:08 AM

canopfor on December 11, 2012 at 12:05 AM

My condolences. Can’t stand Brady, he’s supercilious prick, who unfortunately is occasionaly talented at the game.

ccrosby on December 11, 2012 at 12:08 AM

Schadenfreude on December 11, 2012 at 12:04 AM

I would rather see the whole electronic system go down and force the blue states to try to barter “intellectual property” to the red states in exchange for food.

Reality Bites.

cane_loader on December 11, 2012 at 12:06 AM

cane_loader:)

Well,I can surmise what the Flukes in Blue States, are going
to trade,

and its a sure bet,that the…


…Flukes will trade Contraception Apparatus For Food!
(snark)

canopfor on December 11, 2012 at 12:12 AM

ouch , my head hurts!!!

fever. worn out., just a quick drive by but time to take a powder and hit the hay

cane_loader on December 11, 2012 at 12:12 AM

Fluke is a contraception apparatus.

its gaze does for the procreation what Medusa does for the garden-gnome industry.

cane_loader on December 11, 2012 at 12:14 AM

Nite ‘Toons: In The Pocket…

Resist We Much on December 10, 2012 at 11:51 PM

Resist We Much:Good Evening,Lol,Big Labour:)

canopfor on December 11, 2012 at 12:14 AM

or whatever i was trying to say.

bedtime with a fever – ugh

cane_loader on December 11, 2012 at 12:14 AM

Axe on December 11, 2012 at 12:08 AM

Actually I am in Florida.

Cindy Munford on December 11, 2012 at 12:14 AM

Resist We Much on December 11, 2012 at 12:06 AM

Excellent post. I thought it was a disgrace that many if not most of the 9-11 families were each given millions of dollars from our government. Sounds heartless but people die violently every day and it is not the government’s job to pay them for their pain and suffering.

mrsmwp on December 11, 2012 at 12:15 AM

Fluke is a contraception apparatus.

its gaze does for the procreation what Medusa does for the garden-gnome industry.

cane_loader on December 11, 2012 at 12:14 AM

cane_loader:

Oh crap,thats good,I do hope your head-ache…

…dissipates soon!:)

canopfor on December 11, 2012 at 12:16 AM

Night Owl on December 11, 2012 at 12:02 AM

I imagine that they would be pretty darn happy with $5K. If I haven’t bored you with the story already, they paid over $800 in vet bills for my girl puppy when they thought she had a liver problem. I am donating back to them in drips and drabs but helping with this seems the least I can do.

Cindy Munford on December 11, 2012 at 12:18 AM

Solaratov on December 11, 2012 at 12:08 AM

Further over the top, when you do that, to something it isn’t physically possible for you to do. :) If you see what I’m saying. I suggest.

Resist We Much on December 11, 2012 at 12:06 AM

Totally reset me with that one. The part that got all soft and comforting inside wasn’t even your point, it was this bit:

“Well my friend; I may as well own up. But certainly nobody will complain that a rich country like ours should give the insignificant sum of $20,000 to relieve its suffering women and children, particularly with a full and overflowing treasury, and I’m sure you would have done just the same as I did.’

“It’s not the amount, it’s the principle. In the first place, the government ought to have in the Treasury no more than enough for its legitimate purposes. But that has nothing to do with the question.

That seems like Heaven from where we’re standing. Can you imagine? I know you can imagine — that’s not exactly what I mean . . .

:) Anyway, wow.

Axe on December 11, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Minute Gun

canopfor on December 10, 2012 at 11:35 PM

“minute gun” = mini gun ???

Solaratov on December 11, 2012 at 12:02 AM

Solaratov:Close enough,haha,this one I think:)
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Sexy Military Chopper Minigun very kool
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canopfor on December 11, 2012 at 12:21 AM

Fallon!

Bmore on December 11, 2012 at 12:21 AM

B9

SparkPlug on December 11, 2012 at 12:21 AM

or whatever i was trying to say.

bedtime with a fever – ugh

cane_loader on December 11, 2012 at 12:14 AM

cane_loader:I got it,clearly:)

canopfor on December 11, 2012 at 12:22 AM

This Bill Whittle video is pretty interesting:

Where do we go from here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuL41ohlfZY

Night Owl on December 11, 2012 at 12:22 AM

SWalker on December 11, 2012 at 12:03 AM

I’ll get right on it.

*pours SWalker another beer*

SparkPlug on December 11, 2012 at 12:23 AM

Actually I am in Florida.

Cindy Munford on December 11, 2012 at 12:14 AM

. . . OK . . . still a regional possibility . . .

Excellent Cindy Munford, if you are in Florida, why are we voting for Texas?

Know what? Doesn’t matter. :) I assummmmed. I shant assummmmme anymore if I can catch myself.

Axe on December 11, 2012 at 12:23 AM

Fallon!

Bmore on December 11, 2012 at 12:21 AM

Ok, I know “Bishop”

Now we have “Fallon!”?

ccrosby on December 11, 2012 at 12:24 AM

I imagine that they would be pretty darn happy with $5K. If I haven’t bored you with the story already, they paid over $800 in vet bills for my girl puppy when they thought she had a liver problem. I am donating back to them in drips and drabs but helping with this seems the least I can do.

Cindy Munford on December 11, 2012 at 12:18 AM

Nevermind; caught up.

This thread would be so much easier if I wasn’t having to read that other one too. :)

Wait; brb; wrapping up crap.

Axe on December 11, 2012 at 12:25 AM

Cindy Munford on December 11, 2012 at 12:18 AM

I must have missed that part of the story, so it’s not boring to me at all. I hope they win.

Night Owl on December 11, 2012 at 12:27 AM

SWalker on December 10, 2012 at 11:28 PM

It’s not a contest man. See, this is what I hate about this band. Hey, know what? I’m out of here. Gimme my g******* tambourine. And you know what? You know what SWalker? Beth was a good song!

Axe on December 10, 2012 at 11:55 PM

Please don’t leave. We will never *cough* find another tambourine player like you. We will be forced to get a triangle player instead.

Tell you what. What if I up your pay by throwing in some pretzels with the free beer? Deal?

SparkPlug on December 11, 2012 at 12:28 AM

Looters will require more immediate action than waiting for them to starve.
While that might, indeed, be amusing…their actions while starving may demand that you act rather firmly to dissuade them from their chosen course.

Shoot the ba$tard$!

Solaratov on December 11, 2012 at 12:08 AM

Good one, when I say “Looters” I mean the bad characters in Ayn Rand. The Obamas and his machine are the perfect example.

The Looters are the bureaucrats, the ones who take the results of your labor/taxes and redistribute them.

The Moochers are kept by them, in modern day plantations, with Obama-phones, uneducated, unprepared, stupid, just for votes, in bondage.

Starve the Looters and in turn the Moochers will be hungry, in the dark/cold.

p.s. read Atlas Shrugged.

Schadenfreude on December 11, 2012 at 12:28 AM

She must not be around. Bummer.

Bmore on December 11, 2012 at 12:29 AM


Dire Straits!

canopfor on December 11, 2012 at 12:30 AM

We’ve come a long way from Davy Crockett to John “Good and Welfare Clause and Good & Plenty Clause” Conyers, haven’t we?

Resist We Much on December 11, 2012 at 12:33 AM

We’ve come a long way from Davy Crockett to John “Good and Welfare Clause and Good & Plenty Clause” Conyers, haven’t we?

Resist We Much on December 11, 2012 at 12:33 AM

Welcome to AmeriKa.

Schadenfreude on December 11, 2012 at 12:34 AM

Dire Straits, QOTD song. Tick tick tick……….

Bmore on December 11, 2012 at 12:35 AM

Axe on December 11, 2012 at 12:23 AM

BRAT is headquartered in Texas but they have dogs in every state. I was lucky enough to get my two pups in my own state. This is some of their work.

Cindy Munford on December 11, 2012 at 12:36 AM

BMore is a wood artist.

SparkPlug on December 11, 2012 at 12:38 AM

Resist We Much on December 11, 2012 at 12:06 AM

This was, of course, the same David “Davy” Crockett who fought, as a Tennessee Congressman, President Andrew Jackson and his progressive agenda to the point of Jackson defeating Crockett’s re-election by rigging the next election against him.

Two or so years later, after moving to Texas, this was the same man who died at the Alamo, in 1836, in an heroic defense of liberty.

A great man, that one.

TXUS on December 11, 2012 at 12:39 AM

p.s. read Atlas Shrugged.

Schadenfreude on December 11, 2012 at 12:28 AM

Schadenfreude:

Speaking not of the book,but Pamela Geller
of Atlas Shrug Blog:

New Inflammatory Anti-Islam Poster

The ad, featuring a photo from the 9/11 attacks, goes up in 50 New York City subway stations, starting December 17th. posted about 2 days ago
********

The poster was created by Pamela Geller, Executive Director of the American Freedom Defense Initiative.

Geller’s previous subway posters, below, were all defaced (here’s some examples) the first day they went up, back in September.

In response, The Metropolitan Transit Authority (MTA) will be adding the disclaimer seen on the above pre-press poster.

In anticipation of another round of defacements, Geller told the New York Observer that she printed twice as many ads this time. She added: “I refuse to abridge my free speech so as to appease savages.”

Read more of Geller’s comments to the Observer here.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/copyranter/new-inflammatory-anti-islam-poster

canopfor on December 11, 2012 at 12:39 AM

SparkPlug on December 11, 2012 at 12:38 AM

SparkPlug, if Fallon shows up direct her to this for me will ya? Thanks. ; )

Good Night All.

Bmore on December 11, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Winning!

What they are winning doesn’t appear to be apparent to them.

Even more incredible debt, unavoidable fiscal calamity, complete national bankruptcy and the resulting chaos.

Winning!

The DNC of Charlie Sheen.

profitsbeard on December 11, 2012 at 12:42 AM

Bmore on December 11, 2012 at 12:41 AM

WOW! I love love love that Juniper and the Plum. They are all beautiful.

Cindy Munford on December 11, 2012 at 12:43 AM

BMore is a wood artist.

SparkPlug on December 11, 2012 at 12:38 AM

SparkPlug:So are my Canadian Beavers in their natural habitat!:)
(sarc)

canopfor on December 11, 2012 at 12:44 AM

Night Owl on December 11, 2012 at 12:27 AM

I feel better about their chances with your help.

Cindy Munford on December 11, 2012 at 12:45 AM

My dear Schadenfreude,
I beg to differ with an earlier statement that you made on this thread. Santa does exist at every age… and what’s more… he persists at every age.
Have you never sent a Christmas card? Given a Christmas present? Sang a Christmas carol? Given and received a Christmas kiss? Received a Christmas gift? Decorated a Christmas tree? Burned a Yule Log? Indulged and shared in a Christmas feast? Admired Christmas lights and displays?
The spirit we know as Santa Claus ( or any of the other names we choose to assign) endures, and it touches all who will open their hearts.
I’ve heard and seen the lovely links you’ve posted. It touches you, too. :)

thatsafactjack on December 11, 2012 at 12:45 AM

Cindy Munford on December 11, 2012 at 12:43 AM

Really. I’ll turn you a Juniper tomorrow and send it to ya. Or maybe a plum. ; )

Bmore on December 11, 2012 at 12:45 AM

Tell you what. What if I up your pay by throwing in some pretzels with the free beer? Deal?

SparkPlug on December 11, 2012 at 12:28 AM

Beth goes on Greatest Hits?

Good Night All.

Bmore on December 11, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Night Bmore. :)

Axe on December 11, 2012 at 12:45 AM

Otay Peeps/PeepEttes I’m,bugging out,er,bailing out,

Nite Everyone————————————-:)

canopfor on December 11, 2012 at 12:46 AM

The Looters are the bureaucrats, the ones who take the results of your labor/taxes and redistribute them.

p.s. read Atlas Shrugged.

Schadenfreude on December 11, 2012 at 12:28 AM

OK. I thought you were referring to ‘actively looting’ looters – who require immediate attention. (Though the bureaucratic type will get their turn)

And, I read Atlas Shrugged as a teenager – shortly after it was published. I’ve read it a number of times since then, too. It’s one of my favorite books. Second to it would be “Anthem”, also by Rand.

Solaratov on December 11, 2012 at 12:46 AM

Good Night All.

Bmore on December 11, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Bmore: Nite BM:)

canopfor on December 11, 2012 at 12:47 AM

canopfor on December 11, 2012 at 12:44 AM

ROTF.

Hehe. Got wood?

SparkPlug on December 11, 2012 at 12:47 AM

canopfor on December 11, 2012 at 12:44 AM

ROTF.

Hehe. Got wood?

SparkPlug on December 11, 2012 at 12:47 AM

SparkPlug:Lol,nite once again:)

canopfor on December 11, 2012 at 12:48 AM

thatsafactjack on December 11, 2012 at 12:45 AM

Indeed, but it doesn’t exist in the ‘spirit’ of Obama, the Looters/Moochers sense, and, no, I have never asked for a handout frin the ‘gov’t', aka the taxpayers.

Other than that, Merry Christmas :)

Schadenfreude on December 11, 2012 at 12:49 AM

OMG. These are amazing. Absolutely beautiful.

http://christmasturnings.blogspot.com/

Guess who made them?

Hint: he has been here 1 year and three days and likes girls Gogo boots.

SparkPlug on December 11, 2012 at 12:50 AM

And, I read Atlas Shrugged as a teenager – shortly after it was published. I’ve read it a number of times since then, too. It’s one of my favorite books. Second to it would be “Anthem”, also by Rand.

Solaratov on December 11, 2012 at 12:46 AM

Cool – keep shredding them, verbally.

Glad we cleared up the misunderstanding.

Schadenfreude on December 11, 2012 at 12:51 AM

frin = from, with zero alcohol.

Schadenfreude on December 11, 2012 at 12:51 AM

Read more of Geller’s comments to the Observer here.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/copyranter/new-inflammatory-anti-islam-poster

canopfor on December 11, 2012 at 12:39 AM

She is a modern day Deborah.

tom daschle concerned on December 11, 2012 at 12:52 AM

Jackie is here. She will decide what goes on the greatest hits.

Axe is just rattling his sword on his green tambourine.

SparkPlug on December 11, 2012 at 12:52 AM

OMG. These are amazing. Absolutely beautiful.

http://christmasturnings.blogspot.com/

Guess who made them?

Hint: he has been here 1 year and three days and likes girls Gogo boots.

SparkPlug on December 11, 2012 at 12:50 AM

Wicked cool… Bmore is da man… ;)

SWalker on December 11, 2012 at 12:53 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79NiN7ISW7E

Reflections Of My Life

SparkPlug on December 11, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Bmore on December 11, 2012 at 12:45 AM

Oh I don’t know what to say, that is too generous.

Cindy Munford on December 11, 2012 at 12:54 AM

Guess who made them?

Hint: he has been here 1 year and three days and likes girls Gogo boots.

SparkPlug on December 11, 2012 at 12:50 AM

Very nice Bmore. The red oak once are especially special.

Schadenfreude on December 11, 2012 at 12:55 AM

The red oak once ones are especially special.

Schadenfreude on December 11, 2012 at 12:55 AM

Cindy, you got it.

Schadenfreude on December 11, 2012 at 12:56 AM

You people are so talented.

Jackie a writer, SWalker a guitar Rocker, BMore a wood artist, Axe plays tambourine, Dire makes smilies, Twerp can bite, and all I can do is make shadow puppets; really good shadow puppets.

SparkPlug on December 11, 2012 at 12:57 AM

Schadenfreude on December 11, 2012 at 12:56 AM

Thank you!!!

Cindy Munford on December 11, 2012 at 1:00 AM

SparkPlug on December 11, 2012 at 12:57 AM

Plus, you make us smile.

Schadenfreude on December 11, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Restamping Resist’s earlier (whilst housekeeping)

Only a minute, something to see:

This is how Democracy dies in Europe

Axe on December 11, 2012 at 1:02 AM

Schadenfreude on December 11, 2012 at 12:49 AM

Merry Christmas, my friend. Obama and his ilk have NOTHING to do with Christmas, or Christmas spirit, or Santa.

The ‘gifts’ they give their faithful, cretinous, followers are toxic. They enslave and demean them, robbing them of any hope of self reliance, real self respect, or wholesome pride of accomplishment. These’ gifts, keep them dependent and impoverished, both economically, and in terms of the human spirit. It’s cruelty defined. Even some of them are beginning to realize this, but, being progressives, their solution is ‘more of the same’… more funding, more programs, more bureaucracy to ‘administer’ that pain. It is the end result of a fatally flawed vision and philosophy.

It’s been said that people often choose their own masters and their own hell. In the case of those who would barter away their freedom and self respect for a few dollars worth of handouts, I can’t think of a finer example to prove the point.

thatsafactjack on December 11, 2012 at 1:04 AM

Good Night All.

Bmore on December 11, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Night Bmore. Smart getting a place in town to show some things off. :) Love that narrow cedar, especially. Great work.

Axe on December 11, 2012 at 1:05 AM

…Flukes will trade Contraception Apparatus For Food!
(snark)

canopfor on December 11, 2012 at 12:12 AM

I suppose there will be those silly enough to make that trade but beware the myriad of microorganisms that accompany the trade.

chemman on December 11, 2012 at 1:06 AM

Restamping Resist’s earlier (whilst housekeeping)

Only a minute, something to see:

This is how Democracy dies in Europe

Axe on December 11, 2012 at 1:02 AM

That is totally chilling to witness. I truly believe that each European nation will have a neo-nationalist movement in reaction to the open usurping of their nation-state. It might be bloody.

tom daschle concerned on December 11, 2012 at 1:06 AM

SparkPlug on December 11, 2012 at 12:57 AM

Perhaps, Spark, we are the puppets and you are the puppet master. Or, perhaps I’m waxing a trifle Kafka-esque.

thatsafactjack on December 11, 2012 at 1:06 AM

You people are so talented.

Jackie a writer, SWalker a guitar Rocker, BMore a wood artist, Axe plays tambourine, Dire makes smilies, Twerp can bite, and all I can do is make shadow puppets; really good shadow puppets.

SparkPlug on December 11, 2012 at 12:57 AM

*twerp signal*

Axe on December 11, 2012 at 1:08 AM

Weihnachtszauber, in the true spirit :)

Schadenfreude on December 11, 2012 at 1:08 AM

Bmore, that Western Cedar is exquisite. Form and figuring. Beautiful.

Goodnight, Bmore. Sleep well. :)

thatsafactjack on December 11, 2012 at 1:09 AM

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