Obama and Boehner met Sunday; the “lines of communication remain open.” So, there’s that.

posted at 12:41 pm on December 10, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

Breaking the pattern of presumably frosty phone calls only, President Obama and Speaker Boehner continued in their recent it’s-just-you-and-me-now, closed-off-from-the-public communications but actually met in person (and in private) at the White House on Sunday.

The president and the speaker met Sunday afternoon at the White House for the first time in weeks. It came after Boehner publicly chided Obama on Friday for the lack of progress to date, accusing the president of having “wasted another week.”

Both sides were tightlipped about the surprise Sunday afternoon meeting. But instead of emerging from the talks complaining about each other, as was the case following phone calls last week, each side released an identical statement.

“This afternoon, the President and Speaker Boehner met at the White House to discuss efforts to resolve the fiscal cliff.  We’re not reading out details of the conversation, but the lines of communication remain open,” the statement released by each office said.

And from Boehner‘s office:

Michael Steel, a spokesman for Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), would not share details “about the substance” of the conversations with the White House, but noted that House Republican leadership is waiting for Obama to “identify the spending cuts he’s willing to make as part of the ‘balanced’ approach he promised the American people.”

The Speaker’s office noted that the GOP offer to bring in $800 billion in new revenue via closing tax loopholes still stands, but didn’t mention anything about tax-rate hikes. With the state of the “negotiations” we’ve seen so far, I’m rather inclined to think that maybe they’ve just decided to arm-wrestle over the whole thing, but perhaps Boehner’s trying to convince Obama that going in for some serious entitlement reform and spending cuts would behoove him and the Democrats as well, via the Weekly Standard:

A new poll conducted by Politico/GWU/Battleground finds that 76 percent of Americans favor “Cutting government spending across the board.”

Fifty-nine percent of Americans registered to vote strongly favor the “across the board” cuts and 17 percent “somewhat” favor the cuts. Only 13 percent strongly oppose “across the board” spending cuts, and 10 percent “somewhat” oppose the cuts. Two percent are unsure.

Sixty-five percent of Americans registered to vote are in favor of greater taxes on corporations, while 33 percent are against them. And only 29 percent favor taxing “small businesses that earn more than $250,000, while 69 percent are against these sorts of taxes.

But, as Jenn Rubin points out, the poll isn’t really saying anything new, and more than anything explains why President Obama is so eager to not address entitlements — doing so would acknowledge that we have a direly serious budget problem that his proposed solution won’t come anywhere close to fixing.

In other words, the American people want cake and ice cream for dinner  –  and a unicorn. They want contradictory things. They imagine the only taxes that need go up to sustain the entitlement programs as currently constituted are those of mega-millionaires. They don’t perceive the trade-offs between unrestrained entitlement spending and pressure to cut other spending (e.g., education). They apparently don’t understand that many small businesses pay taxes under the personal income tax code, making them “the rich.”

… It is that [politicians] do not want, as President Obama keeps instructing, to do the math. If they did, they’d have to concede, for example, that raising taxes on the rich raises a pittance compared to our $16 trillion debt. In particular — and this is critical in assessing the president’s moral obligation — Obama has not prepared the American people for the fiscal changes that are needed. He’d rather score political points than be honest with voters. He’s got the biggest megaphone and if he doesn’t level with voters, they aren’t going to get it. (So he doesn’t. And they don’t.)

Update: It seems that the involved parties are hyper-determined to keep quiet whatever options Boehner and Obama might be discussing:

The White House wouldn’t offer any new details Monday on the weekend meeting between President Obama and House Speaker John Boehner, as press secretary Jay Carney defended keeping the content of the talks private.

“I can confirm that there was a meeting and that lines of communication remain open, but I cannot characterize the talks, the conversations beyond that,” Carney said during a gaggle aboard Air Force One en route to a Michigan event where Obama will make his case for his approach to the fiscal cliff, and herald the creation of new jobs in the auto industry. …

“Our interest is in seeing if we can reach an agreement, and not trying to negotiate an agreement through the media,” he said.


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Been to many TEA party rallies, have you? Or are you merely engaging in rectal speak?

As usual…

JohnGalt23 on May 24, 2013 at 1:46 PM

As I just posted HotairLib has their whole head up their six o clock.

hamradio on May 24, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Who wrote the speech? Or are you just praising the messenger?

mixplix on May 24, 2013 at 2:57 PM

MSNBC consensus: Obama’s speech was historic, amazing, “one of the best of his presidency”

Connect the dots: journolist meeting by invitation only at the White House on, what Tuesday?, “big”speech by Obama on Thursday, lame stream media fawning over speech on Friday. Who would have seen that coming, huh?

parke on May 24, 2013 at 2:58 PM

They need the “war on terror” in order to further erode our Constitutional freedoms and to deflect criticism from the administration’s and Federal government’s ongoing corruption.

They are just trying to massage it so that they don’t offend the Muslims, international Libtards and their own sensibilities anymore than necessary.

A few Muslim terrorists here and there are quite expendable to this Administration despite their sympathies for them. These drone attacks also do much deflect any potential criticism that the Administration is weak in dealing with such matters.

Dr. ZhivBlago on May 24, 2013 at 2:59 PM

MSNBC is nothing but a left wing propaganda machine serving their master, Obama.

rplat on May 24, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Nobel Peace Prize that he totally earned a mere nine months into his presidency? Yeah, that one.

I believe that he was officially nominated 10 days after he was sworn in. Wow! The WON really worked long hours that week and a half to earn that POS medal. During those ten days he ordered NO DRONE STRIKES to keep his peaceful record clean.

fred5678 on May 24, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Obama: Don’t worry about that Ben Ghazi guy. I killed Bin Laden, and Bush didn’t!

And Obummer still wants to close Gitmo? Good luck with that–not even Upchuck Schumer was willing to hold trials in New York!

Steve Z on May 24, 2013 at 3:24 PM

They need the “war on terror” in order to further erode our Constitutional freedoms and to deflect criticism from the administration’s and Federal government’s ongoing corruption.

They just changed the definition of terrorist. They used to be jihadis from the Middle East–now they’re Minutemen in Arizona and Tea Partiers in Ohio.

Steve Z on May 24, 2013 at 3:29 PM

…bromides about what we’re told are President Foreign Policy’s miraculous yet still oddly unmaterialized abilities to move us drastically closer to world peace.

Erika, sometimes your writing shows signs of rivaling even the Master of Snark himself, Allahpundit. Good work!

KS Rex on May 24, 2013 at 3:45 PM

I love how crazy Al invoked the Nobel Peace Prize in praise of a speech that spoke about dropping bombs on people’s head. Maybe it was the “fewer” bombs than before that raised this to historic levels.

Do they even know or care that they are morons.

marnes on May 24, 2013 at 3:46 PM

His speech made less sense than Bluto’s Animal House Speech and was far less entertaining. Nothing less than base rallying time. Never thought I would say this, but Code Pink was the best part.

DDay on May 24, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Sperling posted this at the Examiner on May 23 about this “historic speech of Obysmal’s:

During his foreign policy speech Thursday afternoon, President Obama warned that domestic terrorism would increase in the modern age of the Internet.

“[T]his threat is not new,” Obama said. “But technology and the Internet increase its frequency and lethality.”

Obama warned Americans that materials on the Internet could influence people to commit terrorist acts.

“Today, a person can consume hateful propaganda, commit themselves to a violent agenda and learn how to kill without leaving their home,” he said.

To combat domestic terrorism, Obama reminded Americans that it was important to reach out to Muslim communities.

“The best way to prevent violent extremism is to work with the Muslim American community — which has consistently rejected terrorism — to identify signs of radicalization and partner with law enforcement when an individual is drifting towards violence,” he said. “And these partnerships can only work when we recognize that Muslims are a fundamental part of the American family.”

You see, we are just not working hard enough to “work with the Muslim American community” who are a “fundamental part of the American family.” Watch out, too, because Obysmal is again trying to limit the impact of the Internet.

onlineanalyst on May 24, 2013 at 4:22 PM

That Chris Hayes is a bit of a twink, isn’t he?

onlineanalyst on May 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Obama apparently gave two speeches yesterday and I watched the other one.

myiq2xu on May 24, 2013 at 5:03 PM

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