Maryland pretty seriously reevaluating that fracking moratorium

posted at 8:31 am on December 10, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

As states up and down the eastern seaboard have raked in the thousands of private-sector jobs and millions upon millions of dollars in revenue that have come from tapping into the oil and gas resources trapped in the Marcellus Shale formation using the hydraulic-fracturing technique known as “fracking,” Maryland has conspicuously declined to get in on the shale-gas boom. The state’s blueish influences managed to inflict a moratorium on the practice, citing fears of potential groundwater contamination to shut down the natural gas industry before it really got started, but as Virgina, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and others have seen only flourishing success from allowing fracking, Maryland’s pro-gas advocates are starting to speak up. WaPo reports:

But there are signs that Maryland’s resolve is weakening. Time is slowly running out on a de facto drilling moratorium imposed by O’Malley, who issued an executive order last year that barred the Maryland Department of the Environment (MDE) from approving drilling permits until a scientific study costing $1.5 million could be completed. The state did not fund the study, and the deadline for completing it is summer 2013. …

“What we’re hoping for with this session is a very strong shot across the bow,” said Del. Heather R. Mizeur (D-Montgomery County), who has sponsored numerous pieces of anti-drilling legislation. “No studies, no fracking. Until these studies are undertaken, there will be no drilling in Maryland”

But in the past legislative session, the American Petroleum Institute thwarted a state Senate bill that sought to place a fee on the oil and gas industry for the study, which would investigate the quality of Maryland’s underground water in Garrett County, where the state’s Marcellus Shale is most abundant, and examine whether chemicals used in fracking would taint it. …

“Tell me another example where a business wants to come into Maryland and has to pay for a study to do it,” Cobbs said. “When you’re working with people who don’t want to compromise, that’s the end result.” …

Maryland’s ‘environmentally conscious’ (read: big-government progressives who are predisposed to believe that all drilling is bad) managed to demonize fracking by crying wolf over the ostensible threats of groundwater contamination, but not even the oh-so-zealous, power-wielding EPA has been able to find an excuse to shift regulatory authority from the states to the feds based on that ostensible threat.

Another argument the anti-fracking agitators like to drudge up is that the price of natural gas has been declining, meaning that pretty soon, companies won’t even want to start breaking ground anyway — but if the U.S. government would hurry up, get its act together, and start allowing American companies to export the relatively cleaner-burning natural gas into the burgeoning world market, the subsequently increasingly prices mean we would be on the receiving end of robust economic growth and job creation. The question isn’t whether natural gas is a boon for both the economy and the environment, because it undeniably is; the question is whether states like Maryland and the federal government will ever allow it to be all that it can be.


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Fracking has created billions of dollars here in Texas.Let em eat cake.

docflash on December 10, 2012 at 8:40 AM

Maryland pretty seriously reevaluating that fracking moratorium

Yeah,I will believe that when I see it.

Maryland=East coast California.

Gatsu on December 10, 2012 at 8:40 AM

— but if the U.S. government would hurry up, get its act together, and start allowing American companies to export the relatively cleaner-burning natural gas into the burgeoning world market

And break the Russian energy hold on Europe?

This president?

Yeah, right…Good one!

Start a Monday with a chuckle. Good for you.

cozmo on December 10, 2012 at 8:40 AM

“What we’re hoping for with this session is a very strong shot across the bow,” said Del. Heather R. Mizeur (D-Montgomery County)

Heh, Montgomery County. Figures.

The easiest way to solve this problem would be to trade Garrett County to WV for Jefferson County. I’m pretty sure almost all the shale gas would be in Garrett.

forest on December 10, 2012 at 8:42 AM

but not even the oh-so-zealous, power-wielding EPA has been able to find an excuse to shift regulatory authority from the states to the feds

Left wing zealots will find a way in 5… 4… 3….

petefrt on December 10, 2012 at 8:44 AM

“What we’re hoping for with this session is a very strong shot across the bow,” said Del. Heather R. Mizeur (D-Montgomery County)

What does she care. Monkey County lives off the federal teat. Let those rubes in western Maryland eat cake.

petefrt on December 10, 2012 at 8:45 AM

I live in Maryland. Fracking is not going to happen. Maryland is the bluest of states. It is functionally a socialist arm of the federal government, mostly dependent on federal money in all its forms, controlled by enviro-crazies and teachers unions. The idea that some rural counties would have any pull in the state legislature is absurd. Unless you live in Maryland, you cannot fully appreciate how far gone this state is.

WordsMatter on December 10, 2012 at 8:49 AM

KeyStone Pipe Line,and No Fracking……
…I see a Progressive Pattern!!

canopfor on December 10, 2012 at 8:51 AM

Meanwhile this morning,ED,……must be getting
….Snow Boinked(sarc)!
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The Associated Press ‏@AP

AP VIDEO: More than 17 inches of snow falls in Southwestern Minnesota: http://apne.ws/U9Cwmv -RAS
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Winter Storm Pounds Upper Midwest
Video:(1:10)
Published on Dec 10, 2012
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The heaviest winter storm in two years is pounding the Upper Midwest. More than 17 inches of snow fell in Southwestern Minnesota. (Dec. 10)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeEFtm0kqog&feature=youtu.be

canopfor on December 10, 2012 at 8:54 AM

This isn’t about anything but raping the rest of Maryland to support the blue power center of Montgomery, Prince Georges, and Baltimore City/County. Fracking will not happen in any of these places but, rather in the reddish parts of the state who get virtually nothing for their tax dollars except more and more socialism. In short, this isn’t about anything but finding more money for the moochers, parasites, and takers who voted for the rat-eared wonder in overwhelming numbers.

Happy Nomad on December 10, 2012 at 8:54 AM

If people who call themselves environmentalists really cared about the land, they would not support metropolis-style living where resources get funneled from rural areas, like water, to high density living areas.
I’m not saying cities are all bad.
But why are people trying to settle in high density ways in places that will not support them, like NV or AZ?
WTF-ever.
Let MD suck it.
The other states with common sense will pass them by.
If Obama lets them.
Even despite him I think they will.

Badger40 on December 10, 2012 at 8:56 AM

It is functionally a socialist arm of the federal government, mostly dependent on federal money in all its forms,….WordsMatter on December 10, 2012 at 8:49 AM

Well that’s a great future until other people’s money runs out.

Herb on December 10, 2012 at 8:57 AM

The idea that some rural counties would have any pull in the state legislature is absurd. Unless you live in Maryland, you cannot fully appreciate how far gone this state is.

WordsMatter on December 10, 2012 at 8:49 AM

That’s not entirely true. Here in Northern Virginia we are seeing more and more economic refugees from Maryland. It’s not all from federal money that the outer counties of Northern Virginia are growing and becoming more affluent while Montgomery County was proud to make 10th most affluent on the list that they were a perpetual #1 throughout the 1970s, 80s, and 90s.

Happy Nomad on December 10, 2012 at 8:58 AM

canopfor on December 10, 2012 at 8:54 AM

That’s the storm we just had here in SW ND.
Didn’t snow a lot, but made driving difficult bcs we went to a friend’s to watch NFR Sat night.
Went to go home & the brakes froze up going down the hill & we ran into the railroad post for the mailbox. My head still hurts ;)

Badger40 on December 10, 2012 at 9:01 AM

Another argument the anti-fracking agitators like to drudge up…

That would be “dredge.”

Akzed on December 10, 2012 at 9:05 AM

Export the surplus gas, by all means.

But why hasn’t the marketplace figured out the need for CNG filling stations to supply vehicles? I’m ready to replace two old cars, and would love to fill them with a fuel that costs half or less compared to gasoline and diesel. Bet I’m not the only one. But there’s no CNG station within 100 miles of me.

Demonized on December 10, 2012 at 9:06 AM

canopfor on December 10, 2012 at 8:54 AM

That’s the storm we just had here in SW ND.
Didn’t snow a lot, but made driving difficult bcs we went to a friend’s to watch NFR Sat night.
Went to go home & the brakes froze up going down the hill & we ran into the railroad post for the mailbox. My head still hurts ;)

Badger40 on December 10, 2012 at 9:01 AM

Badger40:Ahem,Lol,I do hope your okay,and we,up here in Northern
Ontario,got about a foot!:)

canopfor on December 10, 2012 at 9:10 AM

imposed by O’Malley, who issued an executive order last year that barred the Maryland Department of the Environment (MDE) from approving drilling permits until a scientific study costing $1.5 million could be completed. The state did not fund the study, and the deadline for completing it is summer 2013. …

…I see a Democratic pattern here!

KOOLAID2 on December 10, 2012 at 9:11 AM

Another argument the anti-fracking agitators like to drudge up…

That would be “dredge.”

Akzed on December 10, 2012 at 9:05 AM

Akzed:Lol,both words work,haha!:)

canopfor on December 10, 2012 at 9:12 AM

Good luck Marylanders.O’Malley and the rest of the Tards in the legislature sure is giving California a run for it’s money in looneyness.

jeffinsjvca on December 10, 2012 at 9:12 AM

…I see a Democratic pattern here!

KOOLAID2 on December 10, 2012 at 9:11 AM

KOOLAID2:Le Bingo:)

canopfor on December 10, 2012 at 9:13 AM

There’s a definite irony in that the shale formations run through the Red areas of several Blue States whose populations are based mainly near the coast. The liberals aren’t where the fracking will actually happen, but, as usual, are the ones most psychotically worked up about the procedure.

Maryland’s actually a step ahead of New York, where downstate opposition has Gov. Cuomo trying to figure out how to kick the can down the road another four years, so that his position won’t anger the environmentalist coalition of the Democratic Party when he makes his inevitable run (probably along with Maryland’s O’Malley) for the presidency in 2016.

The other thing is that — given the low level of natural gas prices right now, which has all but killed off new natural gas drilling activity (but not oil drilling activity) in high-production cost areas, including much of Texas — if O’Malley and Cuomo were to OK fracking in Maryland and New York, the $$$ the states would take in right now and the drilling activity it would involve would be far less than if the states had jumped in 4-5 years ago (a situation that could change if the U.S. begins exporting natural gas to areas like Europe, which are paying a premium for Russian natural gas. But that will be another kerfuffle for environmentalists living near the Delaware of Chesapeake bays or New York Harbor to get worked up about).

jon1979 on December 10, 2012 at 9:16 AM

This is alot of fuss about nothing. There’s very little shale gas in MD and MD will never approve extracting any of it until the flow of piping hot lard from DC dries up.

forest on December 10, 2012 at 9:17 AM

… the question is whether states like Maryland and the federal government will ever allow it [natural gas] to be all that it can be.

Silly Erika, you know there’s no question there at all.

Yeah, right…Good one!

Start a Monday with a chuckle. Good for you.

cozmo on December 10, 2012 at 8:40 AM

What cozmo said …

ShainS on December 10, 2012 at 9:19 AM

This is alot of fuss about nothing. There’s very little shale gas in MD and MD will never approve extracting any of it until the flow of piping hot lard from DC dries up.

forest on December 10, 2012 at 9:17 AM

Chris Christie is from New Jersey not DC.

Happy Nomad on December 10, 2012 at 9:21 AM

But why hasn’t the marketplace figured out the need for CNG filling stations to supply vehicles?

Demonized on December 10, 2012 at 9:06 AM

I’ll never buy one of those electric Rube Goldberg cars, but I’d buy a CNG car in a minute, if there were a refill station nearby.

petefrt on December 10, 2012 at 9:23 AM

OT but local talk radio is talking about some woman who over the weekend was whining that the welfare programs in Montgomery County are not as user friendly as those in Washington State. It isn’t exactly a friendly crowd.

Happy Nomad on December 10, 2012 at 9:23 AM

Ha ha … ha.

Good one.

Next, you’ll be telling me they’re reconsidering Steny Hoyer and the better part of Pelosi’s hometown, Baltimore.

M240H on December 10, 2012 at 9:23 AM

Maryland being a blue state with blue cities needs the revenues taxes ever so badly.

But who knows, it may choose the Greek Method..,.

Sherman1864 on December 10, 2012 at 9:29 AM

Maryland being a blue state with blue cities needs the revenues taxes ever so badly.

But who knows, it may choose the Greek Method..,.

Sherman1864 on December 10, 2012 at 9:29 AM

Any way you cut it, something’s getting drilled.

M240H on December 10, 2012 at 9:35 AM

“What we’re hoping for with this session is a very strong shot across the bow,” said Del. Heather R. Mizeur (D-Montgomery County), who has sponsored numerous pieces of anti-drilling legislation. “No studies, no fracking. Until these studies are undertaken, there will be no drilling in Maryland”

Piece of cake. They’ll just never do the study.

Ward Cleaver on December 10, 2012 at 9:38 AM

OT but local talk radio is talking about some woman who over the weekend was whining that the welfare programs in Montgomery County are not as user friendly as those in Washington State. It isn’t exactly a friendly crowd.

Happy Nomad on December 10, 2012 at 9:23 AM

She should just save up for a bus ticket to Seattle.

Ward Cleaver on December 10, 2012 at 9:39 AM

canopfor on December 10, 2012 at 9:12 AM

Oddly enough, although I’m from MD I never heard drudge used for dredge even though it’s a MD colloquialism.

Akzed on December 10, 2012 at 9:40 AM

Governors McDonnell (R-Va) and Corbett (R-Pa) should invite O’Malley (D-Md) over for a milkshake summit.

I. drink. your. milkshake.

I drink it up!

Terp Mole on December 10, 2012 at 9:43 AM

WordsMatter on December 10, 2012 at 8:49 AM

I couldn’t have said it better myself.

With Maryland’s extreme high rate of Fed Workers/Contractors to a large Black community, Maryland can’t get more blue or can it. Well it can, the problem is all those idiotic liberals have spilled over into Virginia making a traditional Red state into a Purple state. Why can’t they keep their diseased policies in their own state.

Of course WaPo quotes Heather R. Mizeur who hails from the bluest part of MoCo, The People’s Republic of Takoma Park.

Lance Murdock on December 10, 2012 at 9:49 AM

She should just save up for a bus ticket to Seattle.

Ward Cleaver on December 10, 2012 at 9:39 AM

Heh! They’ve taken to calling her Julia after the fictional mooch that was the centerpiece of the rat-eared wonder’s campaign to attract stupid greedy lazy women.

Happy Nomad on December 10, 2012 at 9:49 AM

MD sucks! When my kids are off to college….I’m gone.

SPGuy on December 10, 2012 at 9:50 AM

With Maryland’s extreme high rate of Fed Workers/Contractors to a large Black community, Maryland can’t get more blue or can it. Well it can, the problem is all those idiotic liberals have spilled over into Virginia making a traditional Red state into a Purple state. Why can’t they keep their diseased policies in their own state.

Because they’re too arrogant and prideful to admit that their policies are diseased to begin with.

sentinelrules on December 10, 2012 at 9:53 AM

OT but local talk radio is talking about some woman who over the weekend was whining that the welfare programs in Montgomery County are not as user friendly as those in Washington State. It isn’t exactly a friendly crowd.

Happy Nomad on December 10, 2012 at 9:23 AM

Is that on the Chris Plante show?

22044 on December 10, 2012 at 9:59 AM

What planet is Cobb from? Environmental Impact Studies have been mandatory for a long time.

Could you be any whinier and give D’s any more ammo about evil Republicans?

Get ‘er dunn, knucklehead, and quit coming off like an entitled big business buffoon.

MarkT on December 10, 2012 at 10:01 AM

Is that on the Chris Plante show?

22044 on December 10, 2012 at 9:59 AM

Yep.

Happy Nomad on December 10, 2012 at 10:06 AM

I live in Maryland. Fracking is not going to happen. Maryland is the bluest of states. It is functionally a socialist arm of the federal government, mostly dependent on federal money in all its forms, controlled by enviro-crazies and teachers unions. The idea that some rural counties would have any pull in the state legislature is absurd. Unless you live in Maryland, you cannot fully appreciate how far gone this state is.

WordsMatter on December 10, 2012 at 8:49 AM

It’s the same in New York. The “no fracking” voices are louder than the pro-fracking voices. The irony in the term “progressive” is so thick you could cut it with a knife. A very sharp knife.

Bitter Clinger on December 10, 2012 at 10:09 AM

MD sucks!

SPGuy on December 10, 2012 at 9:50 AM

It’s like PA. The eastern part sucks, but the western part is terrific.

petefrt on December 10, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Matt Damon says fracking tears apart communities and destroys democracy and everything that’s good about America.

I don’t know how the progs think they can get away with spewing such BS, when so many parts of America are booming with the shale oil and gas plays. They are a fantasy-based movement.

juliesa on December 10, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Well it can, the problem is all those idiotic liberals have spilled over into Virginia making a traditional Red state into a Purple state. Why can’t they keep their diseased policies in their own state.

Of course WaPo quotes Heather R. Mizeur who hails from the bluest part of MoCo, The People’s Republic of Takoma Park.

Lance Murdock on December 10, 2012 at 9:49 AM

It’s not just from Maryland. The endless federal bureaucracies attract the lefties from all 57 states to NoVa and MD. Someone’s got to write all the federal regs to ban household products.

Takoma Park. My sister lives in Mt Airy. I was driving around while visiting her and wandered into the People’s Republic. Just from the bumper stickers I saw, I thought I’d see some Cold War era, Soviet license plates.

She used to send me links to TP goofiness that made the news. That’s not to be confused with the daily goofiness there that is normal, and doesn’t make the news.

TugboatPhil on December 10, 2012 at 10:47 AM

Isn’t it funny that the Left wants all sorts of immediate revenue and regulations to fight the mystical religion of Global Warming but can complete ignore the black and white (red) figures of financial collapse?

Cindy Munford on December 10, 2012 at 10:53 AM

juliesa on December 10, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Serendipity. I just turned on the TV to the Weather Channel, and there was Damon pitching his new movie to Al Roker. I’m not sure about the weather connection of fracking, but since the Weather Channel has no problem pushing the GW meme, I figure it’s part of a Unified Liberal Global Entity, UGLE, to save us all from those scourges, prosperity and happiness. I pronounce it “ugly.”

Kraken on December 10, 2012 at 10:54 AM

Oops, Unified Global Liberal Entity. Way to kill a line, Kraken…

Kraken on December 10, 2012 at 10:55 AM

Matt Damon says fracking tears apart communities and destroys democracy and everything that’s good about America.

I don’t know how the progs think they can get away with spewing such BS, when so many parts of America are booming with the shale oil and gas plays. They are a fantasy-based movement.

juliesa on December 10, 2012 at 10:45 AM

I stopped reading after “Matt Damon says” — the voice of reason, he is not…

affenhauer on December 10, 2012 at 11:02 AM

Pennsylvania, West Virginia & Virginia should drill wells right on the Maryland border…..
Take that long straw and suck Maryland dry.

redguy on December 10, 2012 at 11:09 AM

affenhauer on December 10, 2012 at 11:02 AM

Everyone once in a while, wouldn’t it be swell if someone asked these idiots to prove their theory by examples?

Cindy Munford on December 10, 2012 at 11:27 AM

OT but local talk radio is talking about some woman who over the weekend was whining that the welfare programs in Montgomery County are not as user friendly as those in Washington State. It isn’t exactly a friendly crowd.

Happy Nomad on December 10, 2012 at 9:23 AM

She should just save up for a bus ticket to Seattle.

Ward Cleaver on December 10, 2012 at 9:39 AM

Wait a minute! What is the possibility she ever saved up for anything in her life, let alone a bus ticket to anywhere?

Hmmmm . . . maybe she heard about the “user friendly” welfare programs in Washington State whilst listening to NPR, which station the desk jockey at her local welfare office plays over the speaker system as a sort of audio antiemetic for those sitting around the waiting room.

At least that is a possibility.

Trochilus on December 10, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Everyone once in a while, wouldn’t it be swell if someone asked these idiots to prove their theory by examples?

Cindy Munford on December 10, 2012 at 11:27 AM

Good grief.

Cindy Munford on December 10, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Trochilus on December 10, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Montgomery County probably has free bus tickets out of the area but this goof can’t figure that out either.

Cindy Munford on December 10, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Pennsylvania, West Virginia & Virginia should drill wells right on the Maryland border…..
Take that long straw and suck Maryland dry.

redguy on December 10, 2012 at 11:09 AM

Heh! Like building a house next to a park, knowing that you’ll have great scenery in perpetuity.

Trochilus on December 10, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Trochilus on December 10, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Montgomery County probably has free bus tickets out of the area but this goof can’t figure that out either.

Cindy Munford on December 10, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Maybe. But the administrators don’t want to lose their clients either, so I’ll bet they give ‘em short round trippers, if anything!

There is a mutual dependency there. Ever known anyone who administered a freebie office? Their career is dependent on continuing dependency.

Trochilus on December 10, 2012 at 11:58 AM

Like all blue States, jobs are unimportant.

pat on December 10, 2012 at 11:58 AM

— but if the U.S. government would hurry up, get its act together, and start allowing American companies to export the relatively cleaner-burning natural gas into the burgeoning world market

And break the Russian energy hold on Europe?

This president?

Yeah, right…Good one!

Start a Monday with a chuckle. Good for you.

cozmo on December 10, 2012 at 8:40 AM

Yep. I believe that this is what “more flexibility after the election” was all about, helping Russia maintain their GDP through high prices for NG.

slickwillie2001 on December 10, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Maryland’s ‘environmentally conscious’ (read: big-government progressives who are predisposed to believe that all drilling is bad) managed to demonize fracking

unfortunately, I live in MD and this is spot on. MD is one of the bastions of progressivism. Tax and spend, big government, corruption…we got it all. We’re out of here in a couple of years when I retire and that day can’t come soon enough.

RedInMD on December 10, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Heh! Like building a house next to a park, knowing that you’ll have great scenery in perpetuity.

Trochilus on December 10, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Front-row seats on drug deals and grass full of needles are more likely…

Marcola on December 10, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Matt Damon says fracking tears apart communities and destroys democracy and everything that’s good about America.
juliesa on December 10, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Don’t be so hard on Matty. His 15 mins of HW fame are over, and the “money for nuthin’ and chicks for free” gravy train was pulling out of the station without him. He has no clue if anything he’s saying about fracking is correct, but it does keep the free lunches and eco-groupies coming…

Marcola on December 10, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Matt Damon says fracking tears apart communities and destroys democracy and everything that’s good about America.

juliesa on December 10, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Don’t be so hard on Matty. His 15 mins of HW fame are over, and the “money for nuthin’ and chicks for free” gravy train was pulling out of the station without him. He has no clue if anything he’s saying about fracking is correct, but it does keep the free lunches and eco-groupies coming…

Marcola on December 10, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Damon is a dimwit. He only sounds intelligent when he has a script written by someone else that he can read.

slickwillie2001 on December 10, 2012 at 1:43 PM

Heh! Like building a house next to a park, knowing that you’ll have great scenery in perpetuity.

Trochilus on December 10, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Front-row seats on drug deals and grass full of needles are more likely…

Marcola on December 10, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Oh . . . you must be from Maryland! Okay, good point, if we’re talking about urban area parks.

Well, how about instead next to a “green acres” preservation area, such as one in a suburban or exurban area — which is really a better analogy to the idea of businesses in neighboring states (PA,VA, WV) fracking in areas that border on MD.

That was really what I was responding to with my original comment.

It just sounded like such a good idea, as posted by Redguy, above!

By definition, it reduces the potential for competition in the area (such as from anywhere in MD on the assumption that they maintain their moratorium), it will inevitably provide good jobs to neighboring MD residents (who will then likely further oppose their own state’s rigid and stupid policy), and it will, over time, cause further conflict with the MD progressives when CNG — which is, by the way, inherently more environmentally sound than gasoline — becomes significantly cheaper than gasoline because of greater availability.

The progs can continue driving their limited-range all electric fun mobiles. Added benefit? Keeps ‘em close to home!

Until some genius comes along and solves the problem of battery storage capacity, or figures out a viable way to compress hydrogen for some form of battery replacement (fuel cells), then CNG will increasingly become a solid competitor for gasoline.

Trochilus on December 10, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Until some genius comes along and solves the problem of battery storage capacity, or figures out a viable way to compress hydrogen for some form of battery replacement (fuel cells), then CNG will increasingly become a solid competitor for gasoline.

Trochilus on December 10, 2012 at 2:27 PM

But what about algae? Don’t forget the algae.

petefrt on December 10, 2012 at 5:32 PM

I’m not sure if the correct term should be troglodyte or ludite, but both fit.

georgeofthedesert on December 11, 2012 at 11:16 AM