Hillary’s not so smooth path to the White House
posted at 5:01 pm on December 9, 2012 by Jazz Shaw
The Secretary of State is making all sort of headlines lately, and most of them don’t have much to do with her current job. (A woman with limitless options who is desired by 90% of the Democrats.) The word has hit the streets that Hillary Clinton’s future is pretty much cast in solid gold plated stone. At Town Hall, Steve Chapman identifies the lay of the land
The votes have been cast, the count has been completed, and we all know the winner of the presidential election. So now it’s just a matter of letting the Electoral College meet to make the outcome official. Then we can get along with planning the inauguration of Hillary Clinton.
True, it’s still four years away. But by now it’s clear that Republicans needn’t bother putting up a nominee. They may as well save their money and candidates for 2024, when Hillary will be ready to leave Washington and become a judge on “The Voice.”
The secretary of state is currently more popular than ice cream in August. Matched by Public Policy Polling against a field of other possible contenders for the 2016 Democratic nomination, she got 61 percent among primary voters — well ahead of second-place Joe Biden, with 12 percent….
In May, a Gallup survey found that 66 percent of those polled had a favorable opinion of her. Only 29 percent didn’t like her. Let’s face it, you could probably find that many people who don’t like Kermit the Frog.
So since it’s already pretty much over, I shouldn’t feel bad about airing a few grievances. For full disclosure, I do not come to this subject from some nonpartisan, detached position, as I’m about to explain. I do not like Hillary Clinton. In fact, I pretty much despise her, and have for quite some time. I was angry at her during her time as First Lady when duties involving public policy were essentially handed over to a non-elected (and thereby unaccountable) person simply because she was married to a politician. I was put off by her transparently political, “stand by your man” routine when Bill’s affairs were revealed. (Let’s face it, no matter how skillful of a politician he was, Bill Clinton was a dog. And as a husband he was an embarrassment. She should have had enough pride in herself to give him the boot.) I was frustrated with Hillary when she came on her first carpetbagging tour to my home state of New York to steal our Senate seat. (Though perhaps not as disgusted as I was with the people of the state who took to their fainting couches in droves to coronate her.) It just seems like every experience I’ve ever had involving Hillary Clinton was negative.
So is she really on a glide path to the White House if she decides to run? Just possibly not as much as some may think.
But she won’t have the smooth, flower-strewn path to the Oval Office that all this suggests. During her husband’s presidency, she was widely disliked for her hectoring manner, her more-liberal-than-Bill views and her often chilly personality. Not for nothing was she known in her college days as “Sister Frigidaire.”
It’s easy to forget that she was the architect of a major health insurance overhaul that ended in crashing failure. It’s easy to forget that when the Monica Lewinsky affair broke, she dismissed the allegations as slanders from a “vast right-wing conspiracy” trying to “undo the results of two elections.” It’s easy to forget that she was the most unpopular first lady on record.
If she enters the race, we would be reminded of the strife and scandal of the Clinton presidency. We would also be reminded that electing Hillary would mean bringing back Bill, with his notorious appetites and unpredictable impulses.
One or two bimbo eruptions could be fatal — and did you see that story the other day that Gennifer Flowers said he tried to renew their trysts?
I’m not sure how much of Chapman’s take on this is accurate prognostication and how much is wishful thinking, but I certainly hope it’s more of the former. There will have to be a primary, as there are plenty of Democrats who have an appetite for the big chair, and I refuse to believe everyone is just going to wave off the landing to pave the way for her. And the GOP isn’t just going to lay down and die. There is a long history between Hillary and the Republican Party, and plenty of stuff in the records which will all come to light again.
But the country definitely has an appetite to see the first woman president and there’s no denying it. And she’s leaving her current position with strong favorable numbers and four years to plan while having no responsibilities where she might slip up. If it comes to that, though, you can bet I’ll be working hard for the GOP nominee, no matter who we manage to put up next time. Like I said… I just don’t like the woman. And I’m not going to apologize for it.
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Morning CoffeeLover!! Hope all’s well with you :-)
Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 11:15 AM
Commenting looking better, now … Test.
pambi on May 17, 2013 at 11:15 AM
I heard that too. Then why are we here?
esr1951 on May 17, 2013 at 11:15 AM
The excuse that too many applications was the problem is easily debunked, as too many would mean less scrutiny not more. I’ve never heard of anyone asking additional questions and prolonging a processes because MORE people were applying, less time means less scrutiny.
cmc on May 17, 2013 at 11:15 AM
IG George is kinda worthless isn’t he?
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 11:16 AM
It’s eating my posts!!!
Ye Gadzooks!!
Help me help me I am being sucked in HA!!!!
Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 11:16 AM
Our Gubmint is bloated with over paid lefty crooks.
SparkPlug on May 17, 2013 at 11:17 AM
I don’t believe there’s an obligation to report to congress – Miller
He said this with a straight face to the congressional oversight committee…
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 11:17 AM
It’s almost hard to believe that Rostrum’s district in Illinois is right next to Duckworth’s district and includes part of Cook County.
No matter how hard they try the Chicago Machine gerrymanderers cannot eliminate every trace of the GOP within pi$$ing range of Cook County.
farsighted on May 17, 2013 at 11:18 AM
Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 11:23 AM
Flat Tax advocates…biggest winners?
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 11:18 AM
ROFLMAO
CoffeeLover on May 17, 2013 at 11:20 AM
Pathetic.
Will do.
Per Gallup:
74% of Americans believe that the IRS targeting of conservative groups is serious enough to warrant continuing investigation.
69% of Americans believe that Benghazi is serious enough to warrant continuing investigation.
Per Rasmussen:
* 57% Want IRS Offenders Jailed or Fired
* Just 16% of Likely U.S. Voters believe the IRS investigations of these groups were a coincidence
* 57% think the investigations were politically motivated
* 55% think it is at least somewhat likely that President Obama or his top aides were aware that Tea Party and other conservative groups were targeted by the IRS
* Only 7% of voters believe no disciplinary action should be taken against the IRS employees involved in the investigations
Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 11:23 AM
fify
“It’s about a union: the National Treasury Employees Union. The NTEU. A left-wing union representing 150,000 employees in 31 separate government agencies, including the IRS. A union that not only endorsed President Obama for election and re-election, but a union whose current president, Colleen Kelly, was a 14-year IRS agent and now is both union president and Obama administration appointee (of which more in a moment).
It’s about 94% of NTEU union contributions going to Democrats in the Senate and House in 2012 — candidates who campaigned as vociferous opponents of the Tea Party.
And the recently released report from the Treasury Inspector General? You will not find a single reference to the NTEU. Whose members are both player and referee in the exploding controversy over the IRS targeting of conservative groups.
Which raises the obvious question: how many NTEU members were involved in the writing of the Inspector General’s report?
…
Let’s first see how the IRS/NTEU game with the Tea Party and conservatives is played, shall we?
In the 2012 election cycle, the IRS union gave its money this way:
For the U.S. Senate:
Total to Democrats: $156,750
Total to Republicans: $1,000
For the U.S. House:
Total to Democrats: $391,062
Total to Republicans: $23,000″ – Ace AOSHQ
http://minx.cc/?post=340067
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 11:23 AM
That was very well done. It needs to be posted in a thread where it won’t get buried like it will here in an open thread with high comment volume.
AZfederalist on May 17, 2013 at 11:23 AM
Every single piece of sh*t that has ever worked for the IRS need to be put in prison.
The IRS is just a criminal gang.
They are opening lying to Congress.
tetriskid on May 17, 2013 at 11:24 AM
Marxist Troll says… Scandals? What Scandals?
Jay “Benghazi Bob” Carney says… Scandals? What Scandals?
Now we know what Comrade O’s strategy will be…deny, deny, deny… there’s nothing to see here… time to move along. I’m sure the MSM has gotten their marching orders on this as well.
Very risky strategy. They must rely on the MSM coming to their aid. But apparently they have nothing else left.
farsighted on May 17, 2013 at 11:24 AM
Not only is Mr. Miller not being forthcoming with Congress, he is also being evasive.
Utter nonsense and perhaps mendacity based on what he knows. As Karl Rove documented in the WSJ, at a minimum these requests came from Democrats in the Senate. If we were to use that as a single starting point Miller is not being truthful.
In addition, only conservatives or Republican were targeted for audits. Were there no Democrat or liberally aligned tax exempt groups in that same period? If so, why weren’t they audited?
Conclusively, it appears Miller is hiding something and there are more revelations to come. Perhaps when they try him on criminals charges he will be a bit more forthcoming…
Marcus Traianus on May 17, 2013 at 11:28 AM
That’s for damn sure. We need a federal non-military salaries and benefits freeze for ten years, and no bonuses. If people leave because of that, good, too many of these leeches are greedy-union government-workers for life. I would not be concerned until the rate of turnover approaches that of private industry.
slickwillie2001 on May 17, 2013 at 11:28 AM
So it looks like Republicans are looking for specifics to build a case for prosecution…While Democrats are focused on how much work needs to be done to help the IRS avoid this in the future.
Why is this obfuscation strategery familiar…
“At this point What difference does it make..” – Sec. of State Hillary Clinton during her prior appearance in the Benghazi Hearings.
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 11:29 AM
Damn! That’s pretty compelling stuff.
a capella on May 17, 2013 at 11:29 AM
Worthless George just signed me “I wanna go home and I can’t recall why.”
soozer47 on May 17, 2013 at 11:31 AM
Worthless George needs to read the papers. Lots of pieces about the religious angle of this IRS cr*p.
soozer47 on May 17, 2013 at 11:32 AM
“It is not illegal to target groups”..Mr Miller…WOW.
hillsoftx on May 17, 2013 at 11:33 AM
Price nailing Miller on what Ingram knew.
Your saying Ingram didn’t know the criteria used by people she was supervising? – Price
I don’t think so…over 1000 employees – Miller
Who appointed her to supervise implementation of HHS? – Price
I did – Miller
Is it legal what the IRS has done? – Price
No – Miller
You don’t believe it is illegal for the IRS to make lists based on political criteria? – Price
No I don’t believe it is…- Miller
Price was Xcellent
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 11:34 AM
blumenthal (D)–The IRS code has gotten so large, but yet we have fewer agents–we need more people.
NEVER CROSSES THEIR MIND TO SIMPLIFY THE CODE. THEY EARN THEIR LIBTARD DESIGNATION EVERY DAY.
hillsoftx on May 17, 2013 at 11:37 AM
The IRS is basically an illegal entity.
Prosecute them.
Every single criminal.
tetriskid on May 17, 2013 at 11:37 AM
Indeed.
Pass the info and link along.
I’m sure this infection is at every level of Gubmint.
Unions will eventually Unionize the US Military if they get the chance…It’s one of the ultimate goals of the Leftist Statists.
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 11:37 AM
Miller’s really going to bat for Ingram, huh? I wonder if the administration has promised him something. Maybe a nice, cushy job somewhere in the Caribbean? Probably in a country we have no extradition treaty with…
PetecminMd on May 17, 2013 at 11:37 AM
It is scary that this hack thinks the IRS can get away with targeting people, groups that are conservative. Miller, is evasive, arrogant and a jerk.
my questions
Who in Treasury, white house knew of this
Did the IRS pass confidential IRA info to treasure & white house
Who ordered this and who carried it out
Is it still going on
Danielvito on May 17, 2013 at 11:39 AM
Buchanan is asking about the culture at the IRS…I hope he brings up the Treasury Unions connection to the DNC.
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 11:39 AM
J. Russell George is most likely the boss of the IRS union that gives all that money to the commie Democrats.
APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 17, 2013 at 11:40 AM
Miller is not a good liar, but he is a pompous one. This is infuriating to watch. And, as the Rep from Georgia said – it is chilling.
MustLoveBlogs on May 17, 2013 at 11:40 AM
Shameless..
“Not his fault”
“you suck and deserve persecution at every turn”
“The president doesn’t control the IRS even though it’s entire leadership are democrat party hack political appointees”.
“shut up”
“shut up”
“shut up”
that about your defense… choad?
mark81150 on May 17, 2013 at 11:41 AM
The guy keeps saying “WE” the sob quit, he is not the IRS any longer.
shit, shit, shit
APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 17, 2013 at 11:42 AM
Who’s in charge at the IRS? Who do you report to? – Buchanan
There are two deputies who report to the deputy commissioner who report to deputy sec. of treasury. – Miller
Who do you answer to?
Mr. Lew (Treasury Secretary) – Miller
Were you fired?
I resigned…But I’m also retiring – Miller
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 11:43 AM
o/t
Huma Abedin, Anthony Weiner’s Wife, Didn’t Disclose Consulting Work She Did While Serving in State Dept.
Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 11:43 AM
Arrogance is a requirement to work in this administration…lie with gusto and dare anyone to prove you wrong. This is what you get when the American media will not do its job.
d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 11:44 AM
Democrats are protecting the Union and their party…and of course Il Duce.
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 11:45 AM
What is not missed on me is the glaring difference between these testimonies and those of the Benghazi hearings.
Truth/lies
Confidence/insecurity
Preparation/having to check files
…. I could go on, but you get the drift.
pambi on May 17, 2013 at 11:46 AM
This is what hearing looks like:
Time: 1100 a.m.
Dem. defendant charged for murder- “Ladies and gents, I killed the dude cause he pissed me off. I am sorry”.
Dem. jury- “Your honor, we find him guilty and sentence him to counseling”.
Dem. judge- “Court dismissed”.
Time: 1105 a.m.
hillsoftx on May 17, 2013 at 11:46 AM
Hmm. Do you think this disclosure is part of the coming Obama – Clinton war?
esr1951 on May 17, 2013 at 11:46 AM
If those 55% or 57% of Rasmussen poll-ees had voted for Romney in November, we wouldn’t be having these problems now. But too many of them were AWOL on November 6, so the bully got his pulpit for another 4 years.
Steve Z on May 17, 2013 at 11:47 AM
Miller was asked other than his resigning are there any other actions being taken by him or anyone else…miller replied, “NO, I am not doing anything – the next in-coming guy replacing me will.”
In the next second D-Schwartz said, “The American people were not treated fairly but I am confident that the acions you are taking…”
“THE ACTIONS YOU ARE TAKING?!” The man just said he ain’t doing shi’ite! WHAT THE H#LL?!
easyt65 on May 17, 2013 at 11:47 AM
This guy is slime and he’s really pissing me off.
blue13326 on May 17, 2013 at 11:48 AM
Miller has been at the IRS since 1988…
But he doesn’t seem to know anything.
Sure…That’s gonna fly
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 11:48 AM
So do I have this straight in this and Benghazi, according to the dem’s it all due to low level staffers being so downtrodden and underfunded, so we can’t do our jobs because of the evil GOP.
MontanaMmmm on May 17, 2013 at 11:49 AM
Press ‘Ctrl-Z’. That will take you back to the previous Universe.
Tsar of Earth on May 17, 2013 at 11:49 AM
MLB
He’s doing a Holder move
cmsinaz on May 17, 2013 at 11:51 AM
We need a select committee to handle these scandals..one for each scandal.
d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 11:52 AM
We centralized because of the increasing number of applications – Miller
Smith wants specifics on that group.
How many were involved before and after that centralization? – Smith
I’m not sure…I don’t know – Miller
Miller claims the IRS reached out to contradict the Donor list requests after they discovered the errors. saying they sent letters to Orgs. saying “Don’t answer that”
Really?
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 11:53 AM
Miller:
I just load them on the trains, I do not know or need to know where the trains go or what happens in th camps.
APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 17, 2013 at 11:53 AM
IG George concludes to Smith that of the 27 that 13 were Tea Party Groups.
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 11:54 AM
Miller is trying to claim it takes much longer – YEARS, in fact – to process & handle Conservative group data / statuses than Liberals. LOL…whatever!
easyt65 on May 17, 2013 at 11:55 AM
Why won’t the gop call out the dems for pushing the IRS to look at conservative groups
cmsinaz on May 17, 2013 at 11:56 AM
Pretty much. Somehow back in 2000, when the annual federal budget was $2 trillion, roughly half of what it is today, we could afford to adequately secure our foreign consulates so that ambassadors weren’t murdered and we could also ensure that the IRS didn’t target specific citizens or groups based on their ideology. But now we’re being told be the Dems that $3.8 trillion just isn’t enough.
Doughboy on May 17, 2013 at 11:56 AM
Anytime there’s a potential scandal I can hear that song by Shaggy playing in my head……
But she caught me on the counter (It wasn’t me)
Saw me kissin’ on the sofa (It wasn’t me)
Saw me bangin’ on the sofa (It wasn’t me)]
I even had her in the shower (It wasn’t me)
She even caught me on camera (It wasn’t me)
bsinc1962 on May 17, 2013 at 11:57 AM
Intent has nothing to do with this.
Laws were broken.
End of story.
pambi on May 17, 2013 at 11:57 AM
Mr George very hesitant about whether criminal charges are warranted…that was pure, future gold. But then Dem Davis “well, I in reading the report dont believe charges are warranted”…
hillsoftx on May 17, 2013 at 11:58 AM
This is all BS.
Special
Prosecutor.
tetriskid on May 17, 2013 at 11:58 AM
Well this one from Chichago should know about ineptitude once he takes a look in the mirror each day.
APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 17, 2013 at 11:58 AM
FLAT TAX FLAT TAX FLAT TAX FLAT TAX.
The IRS could catch up then, no more back log, problem solved.
What a scum bucket,and I’m being nice.
MontanaMmmm on May 17, 2013 at 11:59 AM
In a nutshell…and we should all focus on correction.
Lean Forward & Quit living in the Past…Cause that’s partisan politics or something.
Since the People that Claim the buck stops with them don’t know anything until they know something…They aren’t really responsible and shouldn’t prosecuted or held accountable.
Progressive Pretzel Logic sugared with Moral Relativism…It’s what’s for Lunch
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 11:59 AM
Schumer and Franken targeted Tea Party via IRS;
http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/17/flashback-schumer-franken-urged-irs-to-target-tea-party-in-2012/
long_cat on May 17, 2013 at 12:01 PM
Miller, answer the damn question as it’s presented.
PXCharon on May 17, 2013 at 12:02 PM
Mr Schock nailing them pointing out 3 Dem Sens who wanted extra scrutiny and he had letter in hand. IG knew nothing about it–of course.
hillsoftx on May 17, 2013 at 12:03 PM
Questions/answers w/hack miller
Q who is responsible for targeting of conservative groups
A Miller- I don’t know
Q Is the sky blue
A miller- I don’t know
Q Is grass green
A miller- I don’t know
Only way we get the truth is if someone comes forth, in the know, to tell the truth
Danielvito on May 17, 2013 at 12:03 PM
OT: Here, in Cincinnati, the local Fox affiliate was holding on to the names of the infamous four in the exempt orgs group until it could confirm them. I believe it has done so and has made public their names.
There’s a fair amount of tea party activity in these parts. I hope nothing bad happens, but I wouldn’t mind some protests at some homes.
BuckeyeSam on May 17, 2013 at 12:03 PM
Senator Udall of New Mexico requested IRS investigate groups also.
oldroy on May 17, 2013 at 12:06 PM
Is there a typo in there?
First it is not legal, then it is legal?
TerryW on May 17, 2013 at 12:06 PM
Anyone else notice how Mr. Russel, the Inspector General, is well prepared, has his facts/figures/dates firm in his mind, documentation on hand, and even has a couple of Reps behind him handing him pieces of paper to help remind him of dates/fact….
Yet Miller has NO F*ING CLUE ABOUT ANYTHING – no dates, no facts, no figures, no knowledge of anything & no help from anyone?!
And isn’t it amazing how the Democrats, who along with the GOP members have gotten absolutely NO ANSERS from Miller – has been lied to by Miller, & who have watched him refuse to answer questions, are CONVINCED that there was no political motives, no scheme or crimes perpetrated, that all of this is just a case of scattered, individual cases of ‘mistakes’, over-aggressiveness, and poor decision making by IRS workers (NONE OF WHPM HAVE BEEN PUNISHED & NONE OF WHOM – according to Miller – WILL BE).
easyt65 on May 17, 2013 at 12:07 PM
The IRS has done it’s job – Obama won reelection. The Tea Party’s growth was blunted.
That’s why there were so many questions to answer – the IRS was intentionally making sure the Tea Party groups’ fundraising was hampered until after the election.
hawksruleva on May 17, 2013 at 12:11 PM
Schock reading IRS letters sent to Pro-Life and Christian groups.
Do you educate on both sides of the abortion issue?
Please detail the content of your organizations prayers?
Please detail certain signs that might be held up at a Planned Parenthood Facility?
Schock asks IG George about specific Democrat Congressmen letters calling for IRS targeting scrutiny of Tea Party Groups.
Schock Rocks!
What are examples of inappropriate versus illegal? – Schock
I’m not sure exactly…not my area…(Above my paygrade) – Miller
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 12:11 PM
Report: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election
NBC’s Lisa Myers reported this morning that the IRS deliberately chose not to reveal that it had wrongly targeted conservative groups until after the 2012 presidential election:
But, it’s NOT political!!! They pinky swear.
Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 12:15 PM
If the republicans were on the side of the people they would be advocating for the complete destruction of the IRS.
This is all just posturing.
renalin on May 17, 2013 at 12:16 PM
Jenkins wants names.
Patterson chief of staff at Treasury and Mr. Roland – Miller
Jenkins asks George.
IG George says they have a monthly meeting with counsel at treasury.
When did you inform them about these audits – Jenkins
May 30th 2012 alerted Schulman, June 4th alerted counsel,alerted Lew when he was appointed. – IG George
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 12:16 PM
-Mr. Miller, please state your full name for the record.
“I don’t know.”
Bishop on May 17, 2013 at 12:16 PM
Miller was just asked – would there be repercussions for anyone asking for such a vast amount of inappropriate questions? Miller answered it would depend on the context but that he did not know in what context those wuestions were asked, why they were asked, etc…
This is the same guy who professed to have conducted the internal investigation into this scandal .. and he doesn’t know Shi’ite about anything that happened, has no names of anyone who perpetrated the acts, why they were done – NOTHING!
This should prove that the Federal Government should NEVER be trusted to hold internal investigations, that outside independent counsels are the only ones who should be trusted!
..and oh yeah, Holder says he will not call for an outside independent counsel for ANY of these 3 on-going scandals!
easyt65 on May 17, 2013 at 12:18 PM
no typo.
Miller’s entire testimony has been like that.
admits he has notes…then says he doesn’t…claims knowledge of regulations then claims ignorance…etc.
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 12:19 PM
When did the IRS hire Jerry Lundergaard from Fargo?
Jerry: Ma’am, I answered your question.
Marge: I’m sorry, sir?
Jerry: Ma’am, I answered your question.
Terp Mole on May 17, 2013 at 12:19 PM
I guess this explains how they could afford a $3.3M Manhattan apartment!
slickwillie2001 on May 17, 2013 at 12:21 PM
Paulsen asks is it customary for the IRS to name individuals and ask associations in the applications?
I don’t know – Miller (even though I’ve worked there since 1988)
Marchant asking about communications with Brody.
Marchant shows a June 4th letter from Grant that states there is no targeting of Tea Party Groups.
He setting up a timeline.
Again Mr. Miller you told me there were no extraordinary processes regarding the applications of Tea Party groups at the IRS – Marchant
This is a list my local tarrant co. tea party was asked. A printout of FB posts, Twitters, every single e-mail – Marchant
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 12:27 PM
Wow, Reed is not jacking around.
PXCharon on May 17, 2013 at 12:28 PM
Un F***** believable.
I was thinking I would give this guy a bye since he is out shortly anyway and hasn’t been there that long.
But. He is a career IRS flunky whose idealogy prevents him having any rational thought. He has no sense or ability to be in the position he is currently in or has been in.
TerryW on May 17, 2013 at 12:31 PM
Odd this thread.
APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 17, 2013 at 12:32 PM
Black tagging on Paulson’s revelations about IRS questions to Tea Party Groups.
Mr. Miller First you called it foolish mistakes then You acknowledged that there was abuse…Then you said the applicants were treated fairly…Was there anything in this criteria that applied to groups that were’nt conservative – Black
Miller dodges
You aren’t answering my question – Miller
You can’t have it both ways…This is targeting – Black
How can only a few low level employees do this…for years? – Black
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 12:32 PM
This is why we need an independent special prosecutor with FBI agents working for him/her, so this kind of bullshit runaround doesn’t happen.
slickwillie2001 on May 17, 2013 at 12:35 PM
The flop sweat from these jerks could fill Lake Superior, every last one of them is right now measuring whether to spill the beans or go down in flames.
Bishop on May 17, 2013 at 12:36 PM
Geez, Matt Drudge is having a field day. He’s probably the one guy in the country that doesn’t have to fear for his life or property.
a capella on May 17, 2013 at 12:38 PM
Reed.
Mr. Miller You were not fired from your job…You will get your full benefits…You’re getting a paycheck for being here today correct? – Reed
Correct – Miller
Reed to George
Who did you identify in the IG’s report who was responsible…I want names – Reed
Lois Lerner,Joseph Grant,Holly Patz,…I can supply a complete list – George
Your report implies there will be additional investigations…is that correct – Reed
Yes – IG George
Who in your management chain did you talk to – Reed
Lois and Grant – Miller
Who else – Reed
Nancy Marks – Miller
Who was the employee you orally disciplined? – Reed
One was reassigned… – Miller
Do you have those names? – Reed
Yes – Miller
Reed formally requests he provide them to the committee.
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 12:39 PM
That was good.
BoxHead1 on May 17, 2013 at 12:42 PM
Congressman Kelly from PA… wow. What a smackdown.
Kudos to you, sir.
Common Sense Floridian on May 17, 2013 at 12:43 PM
Young
Mr. Miller Do you agree with the IG’s report or not?
Young quotes a letter by Lerner sent to an IN group.
Young reveals that Lerner applied an inconsistent criteria to cover her a$$.
I believe this happened after Lois stepped in to correct the targeting – Miller
Wait a minute this targeting happened a year after she claimes to fix things – Young
Her signature appears on over 170,000 apllications – Miller
It looks fishy – Young
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 12:44 PM
Every American should be required to watch the IRS hearings to see who will be enforcing the law as to ObamaCare. These idiots will be in charge of your most personal medical information!!!!!!!!!
d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 12:44 PM
I absolutely LOVE R-PA Mile Kelly…he just summed up everything perfectly….
Reo Griffin nailed it also — to the IG Inspector (& Miller): ‘You did NOT conuct an Investigation!’
Of course everything boils down NOW to –
‘SO WHAT?! WHAT THE H#LL IS GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? WHO IS GOING TO BE PUNISHED – AND THEY SHOULD BE – BUT WHO IS GOING TO BE FIRED NOW & WHO IS GOING TO JAIL? HOW WILL THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CHANGE THE IRS – WHICH IT HAS TO BE AFTER THIS?!’
easyt65 on May 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM
All the commie Democrats just took a powder and poof they are all gone in 30 seconds.
APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 17, 2013 at 12:46 PM
After the thunderous applause following Kelly’s comments, the Democrats tucked tail & ran!
easyt65 on May 17, 2013 at 12:47 PM
Remember that the IRS is not an ‘independent agency’ and exists under the oversight of the Treasury Dept.
The IRS reports through the Treasury Dept. and that was under TurboTax Tim Geithner.
Anyone pushing the ‘independent’ line is trying to protect and give cover for Tim Geithner. Why do so many on the left want to protect Tim Geithner?
ajacksonian on May 17, 2013 at 12:48 PM
WOW !! Getting tough, AND applause !!!
This is terrific.
pambi on May 17, 2013 at 12:49 PM
Paulson,Black,Reed,Young,Kelly
20 minutes of pounding….Xcellent
Kelly compares IRS to monsters under the bed…This will not go away & I don’t believe the WH just found out about it. Where your sitting Mr. Miller you should be outraged…But your not. Is there any limiting to the scope you people go.
I am more concerned today after your testimony than I was before…You can put people out of business. The American People have seen what is going on.
Kelly got applause.
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 12:49 PM
Holy Moly! Rep. Kelly just killed it! Nice job sir, nice job.
The_Brewer on May 17, 2013 at 12:50 PM
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