Bunny snuff: Syrian rebels have chemical weapons too

posted at 3:31 pm on December 9, 2012 by J.E. Dyer

According to a video reportedly posted by the Free Syrian Army, the Syrian rebels have their own chemical weapons to match Bashar Al-Assad’s – and you get to watch two rabbits die to prove it.

This link is to the video posted at YouTube.  But Breitbart has helpfully loaded the video to its post on the topic today, so you don’t have to sign in at YouTube to watch it.  Warning: graphic content.

After apparently setting off the chemical agent in a glass box containing the hapless rabbits, the speaker in the video issues this warning (translation cited at Breitbart):

You saw what happened?  This will be your fate, you infidel Alawites, I swear by ALLAH to make you die like these rabbits, one minute only after you inhale the gas.

Breitbart speculates that the chemical used on the rabbits is a nerve gas, due to its observable effects.  That’s a good guess.  The close-ups early in the video, of potassium chlorate and sodium nitrite containers, show explosive agents that could be used to disperse the toxic chemical.  This latter is actually interesting, as it seems to suggest that the rebels or their terrorist compadres have the capability to build their own chemical weapons.

They may not have to do that, however.  In the back-and-forth battles across Syria over the last year, it’s not impossible that the rebels have gotten hold of weapons from Assad’s own stash. They could also have weapons from Saddam’s Iraq that didn’t go to Syria before the 2003 invasion, but were taken by terrorists afterward, on an opportune basis.  (In the immediate aftermath of the invasion, there were numerous reports of chemical agents and weapons turning up fields and barns around central Iraq.  The likelihood of these items getting directly into terrorist hands is high.)

It’s no apology for Assad, whose brutality is well-known, to observe that the Syrian rebels have had connections with terrorists from the beginning.  According to CNN this week, the State Department is planning to designate the Al-Nusra Front, a radical Islamist group associated with the Free Syrian Army, as a “foreign terrorist organization.”  Al-Nusra was responsible for a spate of attacks in Aleppo in October that killed dozens of civilians.

But Al-Nusra’s contribution goes well beyond that.  Daniel Greenfield points out at FrontPage that the Free Syrian Army “relies heavily on Al-Nusra, and a lot of FSA victories have really been Al-Nusra victories.”

Meanwhile, however, the “new opposition coalition” fighting for Syria, whose unity was solidified in mid-November, isn’t much of a step forward.  Its leader is Moaz al-Khatib, a Muslim Brotherhood member with a history of anti-Semitic, anti-Western statements, who has castigated as “revisionists” fellow Muslims (like Alawites) whose beliefs differ on the margins, and who believes that the bombing of Israelis is “evidence of God’s justice.”  Al-Khatib admires Yusuf al-Qaradawi, spiritual leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, who encourages Muslim nations to acquire nuclear weapons and “terrorize their enemies.”  Western media naturally refer to al-Khatib as a “moderate.”

With Al-Nusra and the new opposition coalition duking it out for Syria against Iran and Assad, Greenfield puts it this way: “Syria is coming down to a race between the Iranian allied Syrian government, the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda.”

That’s, er, a comforting thought – and one the Russians had a long time ago.  There is no such option as leaving the Syrians to their own devices.  There is only leaving them to the Muslim Brotherhood, to a cadre of Salafi terrorists, or to the brutal ministrations of Iran and Assad.  At least we can probably count on the Muslims Brotherhood to refrain from making bunny-snuff videos.

J.E. Dyer’s articles have appeared at Hot Air, Commentary’s “contentions,Patheos, The Daily Caller, The Jewish Press, and The Weekly Standard online.

Her home blog is The Optimistic Conservative. She also writes for the new blog Liberty Unyielding.


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Is it wrong to hope the fighting continues? I really don’t want either side to win.

rbj on December 9, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Where is PETA?

Oh that’s right muzzles are exempt because of freedom of cult religion

SparkPlug on December 9, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Wonderful. The odds that Israel gets gassed yet this year just jumped to 3-5.

Steve Eggleston on December 9, 2012 at 3:39 PM

This can only end in tragedy.

percysunshine on December 9, 2012 at 3:40 PM

It’s a shame those bunnies had to die. Why couldn’t they use muzzie martyrs?

But those widdle bunny deaths are saddening. Muzzie martyrs not so much.

SparkPlug on December 9, 2012 at 3:41 PM

How Unamerican

DarkCurrent on December 9, 2012 at 3:42 PM

What could go wrong.

Rhetorical of course.

RealMc on December 9, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Bunny snuff: Syrian rebels have chemical weapons too

Seriously, as long as they only use them on each other, who really gives a damn? Islam is a cult dedicated to the God of death and destruction, that will and can never be changed. Let them kill themselves off, and if they kill anyone not of their death cult, then we should expatiate their quest to join their death and destruction god.

SWalker on December 9, 2012 at 3:44 PM

The longer any civil war goes on, the uglier it gets.

Count to 10 on December 9, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Where are Assad’s wife and children while this is going down? Back in Great Britain?

JPeterman on December 9, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Where are all the trolls acknowledging Obama’s ownership of this debacle?

Galt2009 on December 9, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Bunny snuff: Syrian rebels have chemical weapons too

Seriously, as long as they only use them on each other, who really gives a damn? Islam is a cult dedicated to the God of death and destruction, that will and can never be changed. Let them kill themselves off, and if they kill anyone not of their death cult, then we should expatiate their quest to join their death and destruction god.

SWalker on December 9, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Oh, and you cannot achieve victory over or even hope for a speedy and painless death against an enemy you refuse to acknowledge exists or attempt to understand.

SWalker on December 9, 2012 at 3:47 PM

…the bunnies hit the fiscal cliff…

KOOLAID2 on December 9, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Good. Let them gas eachother then give the whole place to the palestinians. Everybody wins.

Tc0061 on December 9, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Good. Let them gas eachother then give the whole place to the palestinians. Everybody wins.

Tc0061 on December 9, 2012 at 3:49 PM

I was going to say this…

Yep go for it. Die for allah your moon god.

tom daschle concerned on December 9, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Here is a question: how much of the actual population of Syria is involved in this conflict? Is most of the populace hunkered down waiting to see which armed minority group wins?

Count to 10 on December 9, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Where are all the trolls acknowledging Obama’s ownership of this debacle?

Galt2009 on December 9, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Arrested in the Ohio Section 8 housing riots?

slickwillie2001 on December 9, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Here is a question: how much of the actual population of Syria is involved in this conflict? Is most of the populace hunkered down waiting to see which armed minority group wins?

Count to 10 on December 9, 2012 at 3:53 PM

90 percent of the Syrian population worships the God of death and destruction, honestly who gives a damned what part of the population supports this civil war. Let them have all the death and destruction they can swallow, then give them 10 times as much more, just for good measures.

SWalker on December 9, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Did Obowma supply the chemicals just like the other weapons…?

… Where are the Leftards?

Seven Percent Solution on December 9, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Welcome to TWO DAYS ago, HotAir.

FlatFoot on December 9, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Oh. I’m sorry.

THREE DAYS ago.

My bad.

FlatFoot on December 9, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Sooo, what if both sides cross Hillary’s line in the sand? This is a vignette of how things would escalate if more WMDs got in opposing country’s hands. Gawd, what a nightmare. Seems like it will happen. This is the first real proof of proliferation. Next, Iran’s nuclear stockpile.

jake49 on December 9, 2012 at 4:19 PM

It’s a good thing that our borders are secure…

… Oh, wait!

Seven Percent Solution on December 9, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Just so you know…
You very likely have, under your kitchen sink all that is necessary to murder poor little rabbits like that; Effective delivery on the battlefield or widespread areas or inside a palace or military barracks etc. is somewhat more problematic.

But then given what 0bama has indirectly or perhaps directly delivered to them, I wouldn’t be surprised if they have the advanced stuff, both ingredients and delivery system.

LegendHasIt on December 9, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Inhumane weapons that produce an agonizing death over wide areas, in the hands of fanatics who are perpetually outraged… I grieve for our world.

KS Rex on December 9, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Like the Iran-Iraq war it’s a shame that both sides can’t lose.

The problem is the civilians caught in between these groups. There are no clear lines, no distinctions between enemy forces. It’s a free for all. Or will be.

If you take a hour or so and read the history of Syria you can’t help but conclude that this has horror – worse than now – written all over it.

Unfortunately, the best approach for us is to stay out. We’d either have to go all in otherwise. Half measures won’t work.

Keep out.

SteveMG on December 9, 2012 at 4:26 PM

It’s a good thing that our borders are secure…

… Oh, wait!

Seven Percent Solution on December 9, 2012 at 4:20 PM

The Marxists keep the borders open just in case their Marxist coup fails and they have to suddenly flee the angry mobs who are lynching their slower fellow travelers, they won’t secure them until they are certain that their coup has succeeded, then it will be to keep anyone from fleeing their new Marxist Utopia.

SWalker on December 9, 2012 at 4:31 PM

Bunny Snuff

In my cartoon bubble I see a damn fine garage band with clashing electric guitars, shaved heads, lots of tats and piercings in places where it would seem damn near impossible.

And it’s a girl band.

Sorry.

Bruno Strozek on December 9, 2012 at 4:35 PM

Bunny Snuff

In my cartoon bubble I see a damn fine garage band with clashing electric guitars, shaved heads, lots of tats and piercings in places where it would seem damn near impossible.

And it’s a girl band.

Sorry.

Bruno Strozek on December 9, 2012 at 4:35 PM

BWAHAHAHAHAH… That same thought also crossed my mind, I was just to embarrassed to admit it. ;p

SWalker on December 9, 2012 at 4:38 PM

Send both sides a thousand crates of Supersoaker water guns.

BL@KBIRD on December 9, 2012 at 4:40 PM

Send both sides a thousand crates of Supersoaker water guns.

BL@KBIRD on December 9, 2012 at 4:40 PM

They’d fill them with acid instead of water.

Steve Eggleston on December 9, 2012 at 4:43 PM

This is the neighborhood that the state of Israel operates in.

No, that doesn’t excuse every action by that government. But you have to judge their actions in that environment and not ours.

We can take risks that the Israelis can’t. They just can’t.

SteveMG on December 9, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Bill and Hillary have to be making some kind of back channel deal with these groups to hold off on using chemicals until after the inauguration.

docflash on December 9, 2012 at 4:54 PM

The mentality of monsters.

Rode Werk on December 9, 2012 at 5:02 PM

FlatFoot on December 9, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Your point?

Solaratov on December 9, 2012 at 5:06 PM

It would be a good outcome if one of these whack jobs would screw up and have an accident that killed off both sides. The problem with civil wars in Islamic countries is that there is no good side.

MikeA on December 9, 2012 at 5:08 PM

It’s a good thing that our borders are secure…

… Oh, wait!

Seven Percent Solution on December 9, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Now. Now. J-Nap has said repeatedly that our borders have never been more secure.

And if you can’t trust the Secretary of Homeland Security…who can you trust?

/s/

Solaratov on December 9, 2012 at 5:09 PM

“It’s a pity they can’t both lose.” — Henry Kissinger

Of course, I wouldn’t mind seeing Assad and the rebels wipe each other out with chemical weapons. That would kill three birds with one stone – assad, the islamist jihadis and some chemical weapons – all for the greater good.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on December 9, 2012 at 5:14 PM

A statement has been issued by the WH;

Let me be clear, we condemn this escalation between the Assad Government and the Syrian Rebels.

Those that unleash chemical weapons on the people of Syria will be brought to justice just like the terrorist who perpetrated the attaches on our people in Benghazi.

(Live mic conversation not intended for public consumption) Carney where did you put the rest of those tea and cocktail vouchers we got for that great restaurant in Benghazi we gave to those Al Qaeda guys we sold the weapons to….

Tilly on December 9, 2012 at 5:37 PM

Trained soldiers with access to NBC gear, will fair a lot better than rebels without training and/or gear, if they decide to exchange attacks.

Fun fact – protective masks don’t work if you have a beard or heavy stubble.

Rebar on December 9, 2012 at 5:50 PM

This can only end in tragedy.

percysunshine on December 9, 2012 at 3:40 PM

Well it began in tragedy as well, so there’s that.

I’d like to blame Britain but we took over when they wisely bailed on their failed experiment.

WeekendAtBernankes on December 9, 2012 at 5:54 PM

Remember in Libya when the allies supporting the ‘rebels’ couldn’t figure out who were regime supporters, who were rebels, who were the terrorists and who were just plain armed civilians trying to protect themselves from the regime, rebels and terrorists?

Remember what happened?

You bombed anyone with a weapon in hand.

The KTA doctrine was born.

Now it will be used in Syria.

KTA.

Kill Them All.

ajacksonian on December 9, 2012 at 6:07 PM

I don’t want to watch the video.

A human being is a weapon with a will. Keeping a human being from being too powerful as a weapon is only a second thing. A first thing is keeping the will of a human being from accepting this. Life should fight this to win in the given theatre.

In the given theatre, this is traditional Islam.

Axe on December 9, 2012 at 6:38 PM

Is there a way to nuke everything over there except Israel? No, I’m not entirely kidding. The Muslim/Arab populace does little to prove anything *other* than it is in need of general and universal eradication. I really do hate to say that, and it’s based on nothing but their own behavior and apparent inability to be remotely civilized or compatible with the notion of peaceful coexistence with themselves or with others.

Midas on December 9, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Like the Iran-Iraq war it’s a shame that both sides can’t lose.

The problem is the civilians caught in between these groups.

SteveMG on December 9, 2012 at 4:26 PM

I hear ya, and yet if I think another moment about it, I realize that there are no ‘civilians’ over there. The root of that word would seem to have something to do with ‘civilized’, and they most certainly are not; not any of them. They demonstrate it routinely; killing their own children in the name of their religion, killing everyone else in the name of their religion, partaking in the most heinous actions with joy, and display delirious rapture at the glorious and bloody murder of others, even having traditions of sharing candy with children as a part of the celebration of the violence and gore.

Midas on December 9, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Is there a way to nuke everything over there except Israel? No, I’m not entirely kidding. The Muslim/Arab populace does little to prove anything *other* than it is in need of general and universal eradication. I really do hate to say that, and it’s based on nothing but their own behavior and apparent inability to be remotely civilized or compatible with the notion of peaceful coexistence with themselves or with others.

Midas on December 9, 2012 at 8:24 PM

We need a variant of the neutron bomb, one that only kills muslims.

slickwillie2001 on December 9, 2012 at 8:53 PM

We need a variant of the neutron bomb, one that only kills muslims.

slickwillie2001 on December 9, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Sheathe it in a burka?

honsy on December 9, 2012 at 9:04 PM

We need a variant of the neutron bomb, one that only kills muslims.

slickwillie2001 on December 9, 2012 at 8:53 PM

How about weaponized nanites that target fervent Muslims?

(disclaimer: I have no idea if this is anywhere near feasible)

MelonCollie on December 9, 2012 at 11:39 PM

The centuries old Sunni vs Shiite war continues. Neither side is our friend. Obama does not understand that.

PatJDooley on December 10, 2012 at 12:51 AM

PatJDooley on December 10, 2012 at 12:51 AM

Of course he does. He was well indoctrinated, primarily as a Sunni, during his early youth.

You folks gotta eventually get it through your head that he doesn’t act through ignorance, but intent.

LegendHasIt on December 10, 2012 at 4:02 AM

Canada Free Press & The Blaze have reported that America has been moving tons of weapons into Syria from Benghazi through Turkey. WE will be starting a WMD war there, as a pretext for “peacekeeping” troops from NATO to be sent in. Obama/Clinton want war. There are 100,000 Russian troops on the ground already. Their oil and gas flows through the region. Tinderbox.

davecatbone on December 10, 2012 at 4:30 AM

davecatbone on December 10, 2012 at 4:30 AM

China is going to get a little uncomfortable, at some point, with American footprints all over the energy supplies.

Axe on December 10, 2012 at 4:49 AM

Seriously, as long as they only use them on each other, who really gives a damn?

SWalker on December 9, 2012 at 3:44 PM

“(After talking about Hitler) But there were other mass murders who got away with it: Stalin killed many millions, died in his bed. Well done there. Pol Pot killed 1.7 Million Cambodians, died under house arrest, age 72. Well done indeed. And the reason we let them get away with it, because they killed their own people. And we’re sort of fine with that. Help yourself, you know. We’ve been trying to kill you for ages. Kill your own people, right on there! …Hitler killed people next door. Ohhh, Stupid man. After a couple of years we won’t stand for that, will we?” -Eddie Izzard

Clearly, Eddie Izzard was right.

BigGator5 on December 10, 2012 at 6:59 AM

I’m a chemist, and I’m not convinced this is a nerve agent. if it is, it’s sarin, if anything.

It’s a closed box, so you could do anything to knock out the rabbits. Hell, a little carbonated water and vinegar could drive the oxygen from the box and end up killing the rabbits as well.

It’s also relatively easy to generate chlorine gas to kill the rabbits.

And explosives + chemical agents =/= a good dispersion method. Chemical weapons need to be applied in concentration to be truly effective. An explosive would simply dilute the system more.

And being able to slot these into artillery for an effective weapon is unlikely.

This seems to be a ruse to make Assad think twice about deploying chemical weapons.

Nethicus on December 10, 2012 at 9:56 AM

The trick is, as learned by the Jews in WWII, don’t step into a box…many nerve gases are ineffectual unless they are contained and highly concentrated, they dilute rapidly in the open environment. Same with toxin’s and poisons, which is why that is not such a high threat to poison water systems…

Of course some are deadly and disruptive, but I imagine in war almost as many deaths on the side that uses it as receives it.

right2bright on December 10, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Another tersely worded memo should do the trick…

MarkT on December 10, 2012 at 10:13 AM

This seems to be a ruse to make Assad think twice about deploying chemical weapons.

Nethicus on December 10, 2012 at 9:56 AM

As I was typing and answering phones your popped up…exactly, the carrying of nerve gas is difficult, at least the kind that can do damage, and the problem is…winds shift…

right2bright on December 10, 2012 at 10:14 AM

You want to hear an impolite blunt comment?

These Arab savages are all the same. No, not the ones living in North America (except the sleeper cell agents) who you see daily at the grocery or convenience store or whatever. Those in the Middle East in places of conflict.

Who makes up the FSA anyway? A big part of them, maybe a majority, is Assad’s own former military members… and al-Qaeda types who behead foreign aid workers and missionaries.

If anything, Assad is the less crazy one.

Still want to give FSA weapons? …

AlexB on December 10, 2012 at 11:01 AM

This can only end in tragedy.

percysunshine on December 9, 2012 at 3:40 PM

At first I was thinking – ‘is it a tragedy when bad guys kill each other’? But I wonder how many of the people dying in Syria are just people who had the misfortune of being born in Syria. Most Syrians are just people trying to survive. Just like in Egypt, where the Muslim Brotherhood took advantage of the aspirations of many poor Egyptians.

The problem in much of the Middle East is that they have so MANY bad leaders, that good people are constantly being forced from one frying pan to another, and if they slip up, they’re caught in the fire. I wonder if that won’t eventually be the case in Europe as well, and later America.

hawksruleva on December 10, 2012 at 11:06 AM

Isaiah 17…

Hendo on December 10, 2012 at 11:10 AM

Isaiah 17…

Hendo on December 10, 2012 at 11:10 AM

Agreed. Those chemical weapons will end up being used against Israel. And then it will be “bye-bye Damascus”.

zoyclem on December 10, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Nethicus on December 10, 2012 at 9:56 AM

Nethicus, I agree that the camera panning over the explosive agents is an implied threat rather than an announcemment. But I don’t think it’s a ruse.

I don’t expect the rebels’ terrorist buddies to try to lob homemade shells at Assad’s forces. (They wouldn’t have that much trouble getting hold of such weapons already made, in any case.)

They might well do what the Assad Pere regime did in Hama in 1982: deploy gas in buildings through simple forced-air mechanisms. In 1982 it was reportedly hydrogen cyanide, a component of Zyklon B. The terrorists could probably get sarin.

I don’t at all expect an effective deployment of chemweps in a “battlefield” format from the terrorists. But it would be wrong to underestimate their ability to kill people with toxic agents. The terrorists are evil, not stupid.

J.E. Dyer on December 10, 2012 at 1:36 PM