Egyptian military faces moment of truth

posted at 10:01 am on December 8, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

We knew it would come down to this eventually.  In the wake of continuing, and perhaps strengthening, demonstrations and protests against his dictatorial decrees, Mohamed Morsi has authorized the Egyptian military to secure Cairo:

Egypt’s President Mohamed Mursi, facing street protests over his attempts to push through a new constitution, will soon authorise the armed forces to help police keep order, the state-run newspaper al-Ahram reported on Saturday.

The daily said the cabinet had approved a legal measure under which the armed forces would help “maintain security and protect vital state institutions” and would be given powers of arrest, but did not say when it would be issued.

However, that assumes that Morsi and his cabinet have control over the military.  The military responded to Morsi’s move with a cryptic message that the country needs “dialogue,” perhaps sending a warning shot across Morsi’s bow:

Egypt’s military has warned of ‘disastrous consequences’ if the political crisis gripping the country is not resolved through dialogue.

The military said in a statement read on state TV on Saturday that serious dialogue is the “best and only” way to overcome the nation’s deepening political dispute.

That sounds suspiciously like, “You’re on your own, pal.”  Morsi set off this conflagration with his decision to put himself and his government above the judiciary and legislature, clearly not the kind of government Egyptians had demanded when they marched on Hosni Mubarak.

The military sided with the people then, allowing them to demonstrate and push Mubarak out of office.  Since that time, Morsi has tried to ensure the loyalty of the army by installing commanders favorable to the Muslim Brotherhood, and had been seen as succeeding in that effort.  But that had yet to be tested in the crucible of a popular revolt, and now Morsi faces the same question every struggling dictator ends up asking: Is the military loyal enough to me to shoot civilians in the streets?

The Iranian mullahs got an affirmative answer to that question in the summer of 2009, but the mullahs had been in power for a generation, too.  Mubarak had been in power almost as long, and got a much different answer in 2011.  This response from the Egyptian military makes it sound like Morsi might get the same answer as Mubarak — and that he’s treading on very thin ice now.


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A car bomb..
In Lybia?

Two bombs in Boston?

The norm..
It looks like.

Electrongod on April 23, 2013 at 8:03 AM

Lutherans?

Washington Nearsider on April 23, 2013 at 8:03 AM

Tea Party strikes again! For a tiny minority no one likes and listens to, we sure get around, don’t we?

And you can be sure the LSM will not say the phrase “Islamic terror”.

Liam on April 23, 2013 at 8:03 AM

Because the Islamists hate any nation that is even relatively free and modern for no reason other than that they are not Islamic nations? Or perhaps that is too complex a concept for CNN to comprehend.

Shump on April 23, 2013 at 8:03 AM

Okay, what’s on YouTube this time?

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 8:05 AM

It’s those damn atheists again.

BUSH!!

Good Lt on April 23, 2013 at 8:07 AM

French……poor souls
Benghazi… Meh we are to blame due to a video…
Lsm

cmsinaz on April 23, 2013 at 8:10 AM

Or perhaps that is too complex a concept for CNN to comprehend.

Shump on April 23, 2013 at 8:03 AM

Photosynthesis is too complex a concept for CNN to comprehend.

But when it comes to the nuances of the so-called religion of peace, none of the airheads on news networks are sufficiently intelligent enough to speak with authority.

It’s not all their fault. They sandwich in a story about a car bomb in Tripoli between some celeb being arrested for DUI and flirty spring fashions on a budget. They go to journalism school to learn how to work in front of a camera and the right make-up for their skin type. And they are fundamentally lazy- relying on DNC talking points instead of research and analysis.

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 8:10 AM

Lone Wolves..
Coming to a city near you.

Electrongod on April 23, 2013 at 8:11 AM

French……poor souls
Benghazi… Meh we are to blame due to a video…

cmsinaz on April 23, 2013 at 8:10 AM

Benghazi… At this point what difference does it make?

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 8:12 AM

Would these bombers be considered ‘home grown’ like Geraldo says of the immigrant Chechyens who bombed the Boston Marathon? If so, it’s not international terrorism — a detail which the LSM is trying to avoid acknowledging at all cost.

Liam on April 23, 2013 at 8:15 AM

Oh the double standard today from the lsm

cmsinaz on April 23, 2013 at 8:16 AM

The Atheists did enough of the killing in the last century. They can take this one off.

hawkdriver on April 23, 2013 at 8:17 AM

“Why would France be targeted?”

REMEMBER MALI!

Shy Guy on April 23, 2013 at 8:19 AM

The fact that they don’t should be informing our impulse to intervene on behalf of other rebellions with significant participation by Islamist networks — Syria being the prime example here — but probably won’t.

Those who are self deluded only wake up when they personally are injured. I think Ann Coulter said something like “A liberal is a conservative that hasn’t been mugged yet.”

It’s not all their fault. They sandwich in a story about a car bomb in Tripoli between some celeb being arrested for DUI and flirty spring fashions on a budget. They go to journalism school to learn how to work in front of a camera and the right make-up for their skin type. And they are fundamentally lazy- relying on DNC talking points instead of research and analysis.

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 8:10 AM

Unfortunately for those of us living in the real world, by the time these mentally lazy fools and idiots wake up many more will needlessly suffer.

There have been 20,000 – twenty thousand attacks by muslim terrorists around the world since 9/11. How many more people will have to die or be maimed for life before the liberal loons wake up?

dogsoldier on April 23, 2013 at 8:19 AM

Would these bombers be considered ‘home grown’ like Geraldo says of the immigrant Chechyens who bombed the Boston Marathon?

Liam on April 23, 2013 at 8:15 AM

Liam, clearly you’re behind the times. We didn’t have a terror attack on Monday. We had an angry young man who led his innocent brother astray. While unfortunate, the Boston Marathon bombing had nothing to do with Islam, Chechnya, or terrorism.

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 8:20 AM

Lone Wolves..
Coming to a city near you.

Electrongod on April 23, 2013 at 8:11 AM

Lone wolves in packs of 12.

dogsoldier on April 23, 2013 at 8:21 AM

Al Queda on the run:

From Boston to Canada, to Spain to Tripoli…

socalcon on April 23, 2013 at 8:22 AM

Why attack France?

Only a self-styled intellectual could be stupid enough to ask that question.

Physics Geek on April 23, 2013 at 8:22 AM

Probably their culture, right Gang of Eight?

txhsmom on April 23, 2013 at 8:22 AM

Boy, we’ve really got those terrorists on the run, huh Obama?

txhsmom on April 23, 2013 at 8:22 AM

Oh the double standard today from the lsm

cmsinaz on April 23, 2013 at 8:16 AM

The Left is desperate for a big policy win; re-electing Obama is no longer enough. They need his plans to work, which they aren’t. They need Europe to pull it together, when what’s starting to happen is that even they are pulling back some socialist policies. Obamacare is proving, even to liberals, to be even worse than we who opposed it had been warning all along.

The Left is shocked beyond their ability to cope. As more of their plans fail, expect them to become more shrill and obsessive.

Liam on April 23, 2013 at 8:23 AM

There have been 20,000 – twenty thousand attacks by muslim terrorists around the world since 9/11. How many more people will have to die or be maimed for life before the liberal loons wake up?

dogsoldier on April 23, 2013 at 8:19 AM

You said it yourself when you quoted Ann Coulter. The terror attacks have to be personal before the left will be willing to call terrorism what it is. As I posted above, the narrative for the Boston Marathon bombing has already shifted away from terrorism to an innocent soul misguided by his evil older brother. No terrorism or involvement with Islam in the incident.

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 8:24 AM

Liam, clearly you’re behind the times. We didn’t have a terror attack on Monday. We had an angry young man who led his innocent brother astray. While unfortunate, the Boston Marathon bombing had nothing to do with Islam, Chechnya, or terrorism.

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 8:20 AM

Ah, okay. I didn’t get the memo. ;-)

Liam on April 23, 2013 at 8:25 AM

Why attack France?

Only a self-styled intellectual could be stupid enough to ask that question.

Physics Geek on April 23, 2013 at 8:22 AM

Absolutely. The real question is why not attack France? ;0

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 8:25 AM

Liam on April 23, 2013 at 8:23 AM

Yep. And what’s worse is Obama is now in full “legacy” mode. I feel bad for the good folks in West Texas who have to host the little emperor this week.

txhsmom on April 23, 2013 at 8:26 AM

Why attack France?

Easy and quick victory to build up the win-loss avg?

Rumor has it, the blast disrupted the Frogs surrender plans…delayed until Wednesday, now.

socalcon on April 23, 2013 at 8:27 AM

Lone wolves in packs of 12.

dogsoldier on April 23, 2013 at 8:21 AM

Hey, they may run around in packs of 12 but that doesn’t mean they are their own wolf! ;0

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 8:28 AM

Yep. And what’s worse is Obama is now in full “legacy” mode. I feel bad for the good folks in West Texas who have to host the little emperor this week.

txhsmom on April 23, 2013 at 8:26 AM

I hope people don’t bother to attend his little campaign dog-and-pony show.

Liam on April 23, 2013 at 8:29 AM

“Why would France be targeted?”

This question pi$$es me off. You know they asked it because “France is nice to terrorist.” It comes from a place where CNN actually blames the VICTIM for the attack. “What did France do?” “What did United States do?” Could it be they are radical idiots and just want to kill everyone who doesn’t share their world view?

melle1228 on April 23, 2013 at 8:29 AM

Note to CNN:
France represents the Imperialist Infidels.

mjbrooks3 on April 23, 2013 at 8:29 AM

Easy and quick victory to build up the win-loss avg?

socalcon on April 23, 2013 at 8:27 AM

Years ago, I was in some naval museum in France. Every single painting of a French ship came with a statement about which other navy sunk it.

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 8:30 AM

Well after reading the koran, a filthy vile disgusting piece of work, I have come to the conclusion that is very obvious.
muslims hate anyone who is not one of them.
Hell, they even hate each other if they’re the ‘wrong’ kind of muslim.
End point: they’re fracking nuts & need to be dealt with harshly everywhere they’re found fomenting trouble.
Meanwhile, American & European news agencies continue to be clueless.

Badger40 on April 23, 2013 at 8:31 AM

I hope people don’t bother to attend his little campaign dog-and-pony show.

Liam on April 23, 2013 at 8:29 AM

The WH has the Newtown, First Responder and Doctor ‘props’ on speed dial.

socalcon on April 23, 2013 at 8:31 AM

It’s time for another Obama world tour.
The message from the last one has obviously worn out.

Electrongod on April 23, 2013 at 8:32 AM

I hope people don’t bother to attend his little campaign dog-and-pony show.

Liam on April 23, 2013 at 8:29 AM

You know that isn’t going to happen. Even if the Texas Democrats have to bus in “victims” from Waco or something.

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 8:32 AM

The WH has the Newtown, First Responder and Doctor ‘props’ on speed dial.

socalcon on April 23, 2013 at 8:31 AM

Speaking of which, are the news agencies reporting on how this is going to affect BO yet?

Badger40 on April 23, 2013 at 8:32 AM

You know that isn’t going to happen. Even if the Texas Democrats have to bus in “victims” from Waco or something.

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 8:32 AM

That is expected. The Dems are aching to turn Texas blue.

Liam on April 23, 2013 at 8:34 AM

It’s time for another Obama world tour.
The message from the last one has obviously worn out.

Electrongod on April 23, 2013 at 8:32 AM

I’d pay good money to see another Cairo speech. Or better yet, have the bastard stand in Tahir Square and give the same speech he gave the last time. The contrast between the lies of that speech and the reality of Egypt would be striking.

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 8:35 AM

Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance. We see it in the history of Andalusia and Cordoba during the Inquisition. I saw it firsthand as a child in Indonesia, where devout Christians worshiped freely in an overwhelmingly Muslim country. That is the spirit we need today.

- President Barack Hussein Obama, Speech to the Muslim World at the University of Cairo, July, 2009.

kingsjester on April 23, 2013 at 8:36 AM

Ain’t it a shame HN

cmsinaz on April 23, 2013 at 8:39 AM

“Why would France be targeted?” asks the CNN host in this clip covering the car-bomb attack against the French embassy in Tripoli.

Maybe it’s Tax Day in France and/or Libya? CNN needs to rush an investigative team, led by its most popular host, on a fact-finding mission to find out.

Liam on April 23, 2013 at 8:41 AM

You know it Liam

cmsinaz on April 23, 2013 at 8:42 AM

Again this is just considered normal in today’s lefty world. We are letting the oppressed vent.

Oh, btw

2 in Boston

2 in Canada

and now

2 in Spain

They have “a similar profile to the two suspects who carried out the Boston attacks”, the ministry said. French police had helped to track them down.

Limerick on April 23, 2013 at 8:43 AM

“Why would France be targeted?” asks the CNN host in this clip covering the car-bomb attack against the French embassy in Tripoli. That’s a good question, especially since Libyans can thank France in large part for the liberation of Tripoli from the Moammar Qaddafi regime:

Because the attempts to slaughter helpful infidels is how Islamokazis repay the help they receive from infidels.

Steve Eggleston on April 23, 2013 at 8:47 AM

How did Tea Partiers get into Tripoli? Aren’t the US alphabet suits keeping watch on subversives’ travel?

ROCnPhilly on April 23, 2013 at 8:50 AM

Lutherans?

Washington Nearsider on April 23, 2013 at 8:03 AM

Methodists.

Steve Eggleston on April 23, 2013 at 8:51 AM

Libya? Boston? Canada? These lone wolves are getting out of hand.

petefrt on April 23, 2013 at 8:55 AM

REMEMBER MALI!

[Shy Guy on April 23, 2013 at 8:19 AM]

One of several answers to a stupid question and probably the best one. What Physics Geek said [April 23, 2013 at 8:22 AM].

None are so blind as those who will not see.

Dusty on April 23, 2013 at 8:56 AM

Let’s get back to the question posed by the incredulous CNN host. Why attack France? For that matter, why attack the US consulate in Benghazi last September?

…an employee was involved…and it was “work place violence?”

KOOLAID2 on April 23, 2013 at 9:02 AM

No terrorism or involvement with Islam in the incident.

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 8:24 AM

They are doing their level best to spin it, but it will not work.

Hey, they may run around in packs of 12 but that doesn’t mean they are their own wolf! ;0

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 8:28 AM

Should that read “aren’t?” Yeah the duplicitous, deluded media and elected knuckleheads.

dogsoldier on April 23, 2013 at 9:06 AM

The WH has the Newtown, First Responder and Doctor ‘props’ on speed dial.

socalcon on April 23, 2013 at 8:31 AM

Oh Yeah! I love me some Doctor Bigtooth Ponytail sightings!

bofh on April 23, 2013 at 9:12 AM

The Amish are becoming like the Jews, spreading their claws to all reaches of the planet and bombing everyone.

Bishop on April 23, 2013 at 9:15 AM

Interesting Read: The Islamization of France in 2012.
Not exactly harmonious. Coming to a neighborhood near you.

Carnac on April 23, 2013 at 9:34 AM

Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance. We see it in the history of Andalusia and Cordoba during the Inquisition. I saw it firsthand as a child in Indonesia, where devout Christians worshiped freely in an overwhelmingly Muslim country. That is the spirit we need today

.

- President Barack Hussein Obama, Speech to the Muslim World at the University of Cairo, July, 2009.

kingsjester on April 23, 2013 at 8:36 AM

Of course, he conveniently forgot to mention that the Inquisition in Spain learned most of its “conversion” techniques from the Muslim overlords. Who practiced them with fervor on Christians, Jews, and anybody else who didn’t measure up to their standards of piety.

I was, however, genuinely surprised when I recently leafed through a book titled The History of Torture by Daniel P. Mannix. Published in paperback by Dell in 1962, it was just what it says on the cover; a historical record of torture techniques used from ancient times on down to the then-present. The reason? It was published as part of the United Nations Convention on Human Rights, which at that time was attempting to convince national governments to agree to a ban on such measures. Yes, the treaty was ratified, and yes, the signatories (notably in the Second and Third Worlds) went right on doing business at the same old stand. (But oh, twas’ a famous “moral” victory, don’t you know?)

What surprised me, though, was that in the chapter on the Spanish Inquisition, waterboarding was described as one of their standard interrogation techniques. Which they learned from the Islamists of the Caliphate. Exactly as U.S. interrogators have used it.

Truly, there is nothing new under the sun. Least of all hypocrisy at The One’s level.

Then again, it could simply be ignorance. He seems a remarkably ignorant man where anything except his own fantasies are concerned.

clear ether

eon

eon on April 23, 2013 at 10:06 AM

On the head line above.

Boy are we in trouble now,,, bombs have gone to “erupting” on there on.

No islamic one of terror to trigger the deal any longer.

“Bomb Erupts.”

Very msm like that some would think…

APACHEWHOKNOWS on April 23, 2013 at 10:11 AM

Amnesty Erupts in the U.S. House and Senate fear of another eruption forces Pres. Obama to sign on fast.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on April 23, 2013 at 10:16 AM

“Edit:”

Members of a terror cell who are possible from islam set off a bomb today in an attempt to kill women and children once more.”

APACHEWHOKNOWS on April 23, 2013 at 10:18 AM

“Erupts”? Volcanoes erupt, car bombs “explode” or “detonate.” C’mon.

rcpjr on April 23, 2013 at 10:31 AM

Perhaps Libya wasn’t inclusive enough and radicalized some innocents into that non Muslim organization AL-Q that goes around falsely giving Islam a bad name. We may never know.

BL@KBIRD on April 23, 2013 at 11:20 AM

so has the MSM blamed a white tea partier for this bomb yet?

unseen on April 23, 2013 at 12:20 PM

so have they locked down the entire city of tripoli yet?

unseen on April 23, 2013 at 12:22 PM

If anything, they should feel gratitude to the US, France, the UK, and the rest of NATO for liberating them from Qaddafi. The fact that they don’t should be informing our impulse to intervene on behalf of other rebellions with significant participation by Islamist networks — Syria being the prime example here — but probably won’t.

Gratitude from Muslimdom? Ha! We’ve seen it in the past, but it rarely lasts more than ten or fifteen minutes. Let’s keep our armies strong and over here, and let’s have our dealings with the rest of the world be primarily in mutually-beneficial free trade and educational exchanges.

Tzetzes on April 23, 2013 at 5:00 PM