P— on her

The whole thing was crazy. Today USE DRONES NOT YOUNG MEN, what a waste that all was

Liam1304 on December 8, 2012 at 11:31 PM

Go buy a DVD to find out the truth™?

LMFAO dude….

Oh yeah! FEIGN THAT OUTRAGE folks!

As for me, I Iike this guy because he’s entertaining not for his political opinions.

DaveS on December 8, 2012 at 8:22 PM

It always amazes me how some people will trash their principles; their nation; their morals; etc. on account of “liking” some actor or singer.

Not to worry though, DaveS, I am sure the media will help this story die a quick death since the target of the hate is America. So you can continue to ignore his America-bashing and go back to listening to him sing “…whomp, whomp, whomp” and other smart and “entertaining” lyrics.

In my music I try to give people a release, a reason to smile.

Well, I’m sure a ton of liberal/progressives here in America are smiling about those lyrics.

I have learned that though music, our universal language we can all come together as a culture of humanity

Killing “those f’ing Yankees” and their families are how he suggests we all “come together”? And just whose “humanity” was he referring to? Apparently not Americans.

I was sick of this whole “gangham style” idiocy when it first started; everyone and their mother making videos of themselves doing that stupid dance.
Now I am really just sick of him!

this is a bit like finding out that LMFAO thinks 9/11 is an inside job. (They don’t. I’m speaking hypothetically.)

I don’t know who or what LMFAO is but I’m getting tired of “911 was an Inside Job” being used as the archetypal conspiracy theory. Whatever 911 was, it was NOT 3 skyscrapers falling down from plane damage & fires.

Just go to the AE911truth website for the views of architects & engineers on the three building collapses. Buy a DVD. Far too many experts & PhDs lined up against the official story that planes dropped those buildings.

Rivers of molten metal, multiple explosions, evidence destroyed… Something more happened and we are being misled. At the very least acquaint yourself with their arguments so you may intelligently debate.

So Allah, can we please find another example of vacuous conspiracy theorising that is actually a conspiracy theory? Thank you so much…

Hope I’m wrong thinking they’re all scum but that’s batting 100
against so far .

S. Korea is a long way from being an America hating country. In their subways (the cleanest I’ve ever seen) there are signs encouraging Koreans to be more like Americans in certain ways. As a nation, they don’t hate us. People in Great Britain, France, Germany, etc., complain about us as well. Shall we stop giving money to them also? Know It All on December 8, 2012 at 6:02 PM

Of course we should. Why should we be subsidizing these sovereign countries? To keep in step with Zbigniew Brzezinski’s Grand Chessboard Foreign policy? They should be self sufficient and self reliant and we can still maintain a strategic military and trade alliance with them.

Before we pull funding from our allies, I’d rather see us withdraw it from those places like Libya, Egypt, etc. that we do not have an alliance with. I’d also like Americans to realize the world is not made up of Americans (and BTW, I’ve traveled a little – this IS the best country in the world) so we should understand that not everyone thinks or behaves the way we think is correct. They have opinions too.

And they can have their opinions without our money.

Final note. The articles I’ve read indicate that Korean police were guarding U.S. bases to protect Americans. They were also protecting our embassy from demonstrators. Does that sound like a nation of American haters?

When a government has to protect Americans from its own people…yeah, that’s exactly the type of nation it sounds like.

Your personal affinity for South Korea is, in my opinion, clouding your judgment on this. They were liberated, they are free, and they are pissed off, so it’s time to go. I’ll still enjoy Korean cinema over Hollywood trash, and I still support free trade and a military alliance with South Korea, but when their future generations and current politicians scapegoat us as occupiers and colonists then let them guard their own border. I’ve been following this for a while now, and I’ve had it. Our promise to the older generations that we will protect them is no longer relevant because that generation is no longer alive.

Aside from your personal connection to the nation itself, I have yet to hear a compelling reason as to why exactly we should stay. No matter how ignorant may be, if they are seeing us as occupiers and imperialists, then it is time to go but still maintain the strategic alliance. If we want to maintain a presence in the region to balance out Asia, we have numerous alternatives. That is my main point.

As for me, I Iike this guy because he’s entertaining not for his political opinions.

This isn’t 1973 anymore, and because you married a Korean doesn’t mean other Koreans love you.

Yes, I know it is now 2012 and just so you know, back when I married my wife Koreans would not have loved me for doing so. They were a very homogenous country which frowned upon marriage to anyone who was not Korean. My wife has suffered mildly from that even in this country. You could even call the nation slightly racist. If you did, you might as well lump in every older Italian, Irish, French, etc. parent from the last century, as they would have similar feelings about wanting their children to marry someone from their own culture and nationality.

Why did you bring up that Koreans value their children highly? Every parent values their children highly whether they have a social security system or not. Do Koreans look at their children as a retirement fund? Is that what you are saying? Because that’s not love, and I find that remark mind boggling.

I brought up their love for their children because some people seem to be ignoring the fact that their anger was because two schoolgirls were killed by some soldiers. Culturally, parents have relied on their children for care in their old age. It’s a tradition. Whether we see it as odd or mind boggling might be because we’ve grown up expecting Social Security to be there for us when we’re old, rather than families caring for each other. The fact that children willingly do care for their parents in their old age is testament to the love they have for their parents in following the traditions that make them unique. So,no, they don’t look at their children as a retirement fund.

Military personnel in Korea have, from time to time, broken Korean law, whether it be murder (as occurred when I was there) or drunken public brawling, etc. Because of the SOFA agreement we have with Korea, most of the time the military personnel are remanded to custody of the American military for judgement and punishment. In cases where a Korean citizen loses their life because of something a visiting military person has done, I can understand the Koreans being upset when those individuals escape the Korean judicial system. Changes to the SOFA could alter that, but that is between our government leaders and theirs. If, for some reason Mexico had 37,000 troops stationed in our country – in your neighborhood, and they behaved in a thoughtless manner – even if accidental, I think you might have a different perspective on where they should be tried. We have never had to live with a foreign army in our midst, so we don’t know what that feels like.

If you are unfamiliar with the details of the accident, then use the internet to look it up before you write such a long winded comment full “maybe” and “I’m not sure”.

Which bothered you more, the long winded, or the “maybe” and “I’m not sure”? I tend to qualify my statements if I don’t have absolute first hand knowledge. I did look up the story before I wrote, but the article I read the first time didn’t give a lot of details. Since then, I’ve looked for more and found this lengthy but informative article:

http://rokdrop.com/2008/06/13/gi-myths-the-2002-armored-vehicle-accident/

The South Koreans were upset these girls were killed but would not accept that it was a tragic accident, this shows a complete lack of trust in the American military on their part. So if they weren’t happy with the acquittal, what was the reason? Did they think Americans murdered the two girls? Did they think the military was hiding something, such as them being drunk?

It seems S. Korea has politically far left people in it just like America. They were the main instigators of the unrest.

Or has the anti-Americanism gone so deep that they immediately jump to malice as a motivation for the girl’s death instead of it being a tragic accident? From everything I have read, it is the consequence of hardened anti-American resentment. American troops can do bad things on an individual level, there are rapists and thugs in every element of society, but the younger generation of Koreans have been hating on America for a while now and are behaving like angst ridden teenagers rebelling against their parents. It’s time to leave and pull all funding, we’re long overdue.

Conservatives and liberals alike claim they want to stop giving money to countries who hate us, well South Korea is one of those countries now that the older generations have died off.

S. Korea is a long way from being an America hating country. In their subways (the cleanest I’ve ever seen) there are signs encouraging Koreans to be more like Americans in certain ways. As a nation, they don’t hate us. People in Great Britain, France, Germany, etc., complain about us as well. Shall we stop giving money to them also?

Before we pull funding from our allies, I’d rather see us withdraw it from those places like Libya, Egypt, etc. that we do not have an alliance with. I’d also like Americans to realize the world is not made up of Americans (and BTW, I’ve traveled a little – this IS the best country in the world) so we should understand that not everyone thinks or behaves the way we think is correct. They have opinions too.

Final note. The articles I’ve read indicate that Korean police were guarding U.S. bases to protect Americans. They were also protecting our embassy from demonstrators. Does that sound like a nation of American haters?

“But I say to you who hear, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.
(Luke 6:27-28 NASB)

Know It All on December 8, 2012 at 11:06 AM

We can do all those things without spending billions in military aid.

I visited South Korea in 2003, and was advised that sentiment against Americans was still possible because of the deaths of the two schoolgirls and what seemed like a callous disregard for human life on the part of Americans. I encountered no difficulties, nor was anyone outwardly hostile to me. Of course, I understand that every country has its own culture and what is valued in one country may have a different value in another. Koreans value their children extremely highly. They don’t have a Social Security System to support them in their old age, they have their children.

I’m not familiar with the details of the accident, and I doubt very many of the rest of Hot Air readers and writers are either, so I don’t know if the army acted correctly or not.

This isn’t 1973 anymore, and because you married a Korean doesn’t mean other Koreans love you.

Why did you bring up that Koreans value their children highly? Every parent values their children highly whether they have a social security system or not. Do Koreans look at their children as a retirement fund? Is that what you are saying? Because that’s not love, and I find that remark mind boggling.

If you are unfamiliar with the details of the accident, then use the internet to look it up before you write such a long winded comment full “maybe” and “I’m not sure”. The South Koreans were upset these girls were killed but would not accept that it was a tragic accident, this shows a complete lack of trust in the American military on their part. So if they weren’t happy with the acquittal, what was the reason? Did they think Americans murdered the two girls? Did they think the military was hiding something, such as them being drunk? Or has the anti-Americanism gone so deep that they immediately jump to malice as a motivation for the girl’s death instead of it being a tragic accident? From everything I have read, it is the consequence of hardened anti-American resentment. American troops can do bad things on an individual level, there are rapists and thugs in every element of society, but the younger generation of Koreans have been hating on America for a while now and are behaving like angst ridden teenagers rebelling against their parents. It’s time to leave and pull all funding, we’re long overdue.

Conservatives and liberals alike claim they want to stop giving money to countries who hate us, well South Korea is one of those countries now that the older generations have died off.

South Korea is the product of American blood spilled; North Korea is what they would have looked like without that blood. If the Koreans don’t acknowledge this, then we leave. That’s how wars of liberation should work, eventually you have to leave.

Now, four decades removed, sitting in the lap of luxury, Fonda has decided that the pictures on the anti-aircraft gun were a mistake. Not the actual visit – she stands by that. “I did not, have not, and will not say that going to North Vietnam was a mistake,” she said. “I have apologized only for some of the things that I did there, but I am proud that I went.”

But when it comes to those gun photos, then she wishes she’d done something different: “Sitting on that gun in North Vietnam. I’ll go to my grave with that one.” Of course, as John Nolte of Big Hollywood points out, that’s “a step up from what we learned in Patricia Bosworth’s biography, ‘Jane Fonda,’ where the star reportedly said: ‘My biggest regret is I never got to f*** Che Guevara.”

bluegill on December 8, 2012 at 10:17 AM

What’s pathetic about buying American cars? Must you try to kiss every ass?

freedomfirst on December 7, 2012 at 11:25 PM

Sorry, nine years later, I answer. I do remember, very well!!

I visited South Korea in 2003, and was advised that sentiment against Americans was still possible because of the deaths of the two schoolgirls and what seemed like a callous disregard for human life on the part of Americans. I encountered no difficulties, nor was anyone outwardly hostile to me. Of course, I understand that every country has its own culture and what is valued in one country may have a different value in another. Koreans value their children extremely highly. They don’t have a Social Security System to support them in their old age, they have their children.

I’m not familiar with the details of the accident, and I doubt very many of the rest of Hot Air readers and writers are either, so I don’t know if the army acted correctly or not.

Yes, our troops have been there for decades and most Koreans understand the importance of our presence there. That does not give young Americans license to abuse the culture, or the people of their host country. Germans aren’t all that happy with American presence, and if you were to poll any country where we’ve been implanted for decades I think you’d find some people’s patience wearing thin.

As for Psy, I liked his Gangnam style video. It’s a hilarious dig at wealthy Koreans and what they value. I’ve looked at a few other of his videos and he definitely has a sense of humor, but he is also a patriotic Korean – nothing wrong with that. His words about killing people slowly and painfully are horrid, and have made me think less of him, but I also remember he is an entertainer, not someone who is directing the future of this or any other country, so I would put him in the same category as any other entertainer who says stupid stuff.

In order to be totally transparent you should know I married a South Korean girl that I met while stationed in Korea. She and her mother would come to my place of employment (the post chapel) to babysit American children while their parents were in church worshiping. If you marry a Korean you will probably get to know even more Koreans through the friendships of your spouse. We’ve been married 36+ years and recently our oldest daughter married a Korean man from California. So, I know a little about Koreans and their attitudes towards America. Psy’s comments from the past are NOT representative of the majority of Koreans (so stop hating them)and I have never owned any car with a foreign name. Although, I did once own a BSA motorcycle (British)and once had a Honda motorcycle (Japanese). Now, I ride a Harley Davidson (good old USA).

Some of you may try to characterize me as biased – I’m not. I’m more familiar with the topic (Koreans) than you are.

“But I say to you who hear, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.
(Luke 6:27-28 NASB)

bluegill on December 8, 2012 at 10:17 AM

Back in the 80′s Korea singled out the U.S. car market
by putting a $10,000 Tariff on all imported U.S. made cars. Really ticked me off at that time. Not bashing, just reminiscing.

Hyundai = Here’s whY yoU Never Drive An Import
cableguy615 on December 8, 2012 at 9:01 AM

So now this is a Korea-bashing thread? You guys are pathetic.

Are Kia and Hynudai Korean models ?

Hyundai = Here’s whY yoU Never Drive An Import

I really don’t believe his target audience would really give a damn one way or the other.