Video: Protests in Egypt turn deadly — 5 dead, hundreds injured

posted at 8:01 am on December 6, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

What happens when you take a disillusioned electorate that has discovered it elected a would-be dictator, and the group that wanted a dictator all along?  Inevitably, you get what happened overnight in Cairo.  Clashes between growing legions of protesters and Muslim Brotherhood counterprotesters killed five people and wounded hundreds more, while Mohamed Morsi called in tanks to protect the presidential palace:

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Five people were killed and hundreds wounded in violent clashes between supporters and opponents of Egypt’s President Mohammed Morsi that raged for several hours into early Thursday morning.

Angry mobs battled each other with Molotov cocktails, rocks and sticks outside the presidential palace complex.

On Thursday, witnesses told Reuters that there also appeared to be at least four tanks outside the palace and Egypt State Radio said that two armored personnel carriers had been deployed in a nearby area called Roxy in an attempt to separate the two sides.

CNN also has this report on the deployment of tanks and troops to protect Morsi’s position — troops from the Republican Guard, notably, and not regular Army units:

“But the constitution has term limits,” notes the CNN anchor. Well, you can see just how much trust Egyptians have in the draft constitution and the Muslim Brotherhood to abide by it. If they suspended judicial enforcement to draft it, why would the CNN anchor expect Egyptians to trust them to obey it later?

More demonstrations are planned for today.


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So how come we’re not hearing calls from the White House for Morsi to step down (like in the “other” Arab Spring)?

Mitoch55 on December 6, 2012 at 8:05 AM

Morsi called in tanks to protect the presidential palace:

Isn’t this usually what one sees at the end of a dictatorship?

Are these signs of things to come here?

dogsoldier on December 6, 2012 at 8:06 AM

Another Obama failure.

rplat on December 6, 2012 at 8:06 AM

JihadyGoon JackWads!!

canopfor on December 6, 2012 at 8:07 AM

That sort of thing could never ever happen here…

At some point, I would hope, people in that part of the world will come to realize that there is a better way than the Islamist way. Being a jihadi or supporter of al ikhwan a muslimuna [Moslem Brotherhood] don’t pay the rent. Just look around to all those places where shariah rules, and everybody must submit to the will of the mullahs. Being part of the 13th Century is not the place to be.

In the West, for a long while, it was fashionable to engage in conversations about how better the world would have been if somebody or some group had stood up to Lenin, or Mao, or Adolf, in the beginning, before they got too strong…

Well, maybe the folks out in Cairo are trying to do just that.

But, remember, kids, this sort of thing could never ever happen here.

Right?

coldwarrior on December 6, 2012 at 8:10 AM

LIVE STREAMING FEED…in front of Jihady Palace

http://reuters.livestation.com/demo

canopfor on December 6, 2012 at 8:10 AM

Damn you, Glenn Beck!

BallisticBob on December 6, 2012 at 8:12 AM

Excellent Egyptian News and protest Twits Twittering Info
(sarc)

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canopfor on December 6, 2012 at 8:13 AM

So how come we’re not hearing calls from the White House for Morsi to step down (like in the “other” Arab Spring)?

Mitoch55 on December 6, 2012 at 8:05 AM

Damn good question.

Maybe Jake can ask that Carney kid at today’s dog and pony show.

Seriously.

This whole Obama/Power/Jarret fostering the “Arab Spring” thing has done little but to get a lot of people killed, for pretty much nothing.

All talk.

And stupid talk, at that, from this Administration.

Speechifying ain’t leading, Barry.

Putz.

coldwarrior on December 6, 2012 at 8:15 AM

5 Egyptians dead?
And this makes news?

I remember a time when 4 Americans died and now one cared.
:(

Electrongod on December 6, 2012 at 8:15 AM

Nervana Mahmoud ‏@Nervana_1

Watch how the #MB started the whole drama by attacking the sit- in via “@Mayelias: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VBAJZp3NIoY … #Egypt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VBAJZp3NIoY

canopfor on December 6, 2012 at 8:16 AM

The mainstream media was all over the place selling the lie that peace and democracy was breaking out all over the Middle East thanks to the efforts of the pig-in-a-pantsuit and rat-eared wonder.

Now that the election is over, there are four dead Americans in Libya, riots in Egypt which include state-sanctioned gangs raping those gathered in protest, and POISON GAS being readied to use against protesters in Syria……. where is the media now? For that matter, what the hell is the administration doing to try to fix the problems that they created by their stupid naive ideas that the path to regional stability is to trash Israel and picking which gangs of Muslim animals to arm and which ones to oust.

Happy Nomad on December 6, 2012 at 8:17 AM

You say you want a rev a lution ,, well you know,,

wolly4321 on December 6, 2012 at 8:18 AM

I bet the chicago body count was higher.

wolly4321 on December 6, 2012 at 8:19 AM

OverNight Images of Goons Vrs.Goons!

http://www.rightnow.io/breaking-news/together–caiuniversirty-mb_bn_1354356901717.html

canopfor on December 6, 2012 at 8:19 AM

I remember a time when 4 Americans died and no one cared.
:(

Electrongod on December 6, 2012 at 8:15 AM

For that matter, I wonder just how many people died in Chicago during the same period. Where’s Bob Costas lecturing the need for tighter gun control in Egypt? What is the administration doing? It is as if the rat-eared wonder doesn’t want to get involved because that would dispel the myth that he brought about peace in the Middle East.

Happy Nomad on December 6, 2012 at 8:21 AM

What happens when you take a disillusioned electorate that has discovered it elected a would-be dictator, and the group that wanted a dictator all along? Inevitably, you get what happened overnight in Cairo.

Coming soon to a city near you.

Happy Nomad on December 6, 2012 at 8:23 AM

What happens when you take a disillusioned electorate that has discovered it elected a would-be dictator, and the group that wanted a dictator all along?

Save that line, Ed. I have a feeling you’ll be using it again in the years to come for a story far closer to home.

Doughboy on December 6, 2012 at 8:25 AM

Isn’t this usually what one sees at the end of a dictatorship?
Are these signs of things to come here?

dogsoldier on December 6, 2012 at 8:06 AM

If so, then that was fast. Talk about an Evil despotism FAIL. I don’t want him in power, but ousted after less than a year? That’s just sad. You’d think he could hang onto power for a few years, just to make things interesting.

I’d like to think that dictators around the word are trembling in fear, but I get the sense they’re probably laughing their @sses off at Morsi.

But this is all premature. I would think it really depends on the army. I guess he’s been putting his own people in key positions for awhile. If he’s done it carefully in a way that keeps the rank and file loyal, he probably stays on. If he’s made a lot of enemies with his purges, there’s more risk of a backlash.

RINO in Name Only on December 6, 2012 at 8:28 AM

Maybe Hillary, in her last act to win a better legacy, could go over there to push an Egyptian-style version of Obamacare and an end to Bush-type tax rates. Surely higher taxes all around will work for Egypt and quell popular angst.

Realistically, who outside the ruling Party here at home didn’t see this coming?

Liam on December 6, 2012 at 8:30 AM

So Obama will call for Morsi to surrender power immediately, right?

Washington Nearsider on December 6, 2012 at 8:34 AM

So Obama will call for Morsi to surrender power immediately, right?

Washington Nearsider on December 6, 2012 at 8:34 AM

Yes, he sure will. He’ll do it the same day France stops producing wine.

Liam on December 6, 2012 at 8:37 AM

Maybe if we just send Morsi another billion of our tax dollars this whole thing will simmer down!

Naturally Curly on December 6, 2012 at 8:40 AM

Right?

coldwarrior on December 6, 2012 at 8:10 AM

Nope. Not at all./

kingsjester on December 6, 2012 at 8:45 AM

“But the constitution has term limits,” notes the CNN anchor

That’s nice.

Jabberwock on December 6, 2012 at 8:55 AM

Realistically, who outside the ruling Party here at home didn’t see this coming?

Liam on December 6, 2012 at 8:30 AM

Are you including the propagandists and stenographers of the MSM in your definition of “ruling party?” Because they certainly have been AWOL in reporting anything that happened after the so-called Arab Spring.

Happy Nomad on December 6, 2012 at 8:58 AM

11 dead in Chicago Monday night, the Egyptians are girlie men.

claudius on December 6, 2012 at 9:04 AM

Morsi called in tanks to protect the presidential palace:

Isn’t this usually what one sees at the end of a dictatorship?

Are these signs of things to come here?

dogsoldier on December 6, 2012 at 8:06 AM

Why do you think the Demoncrats want to take away your right of self-defense?

And why do you think that guns are selling like hotcakes?

Galt2009 on December 6, 2012 at 9:05 AM

Morsi is test-running Obama’s path to dictatorship. The first test, if you remember, was in Honduras. And the U.S. Army will be an obedient tool for a hand that signs salary checks.

Be afraid. Be very, very afraid.

Archivarix on December 6, 2012 at 9:15 AM

Morsi is test-running Obama’s path to dictatorship. The first test, if you remember, was in Honduras. And the U.S. Army will be an obedient tool for a hand that signs salary checks.

Be afraid. Be very, very afraid.

Archivarix on December 6, 2012 at 9:15 AM

Or. Be prepared. Be very, very prepared.

Washington Nearsider on December 6, 2012 at 9:37 AM

11 dead in Chicago Monday night, the Egyptians are girlie men.

claudius on December 6, 2012 at 9:04 AM

Yay! We Chicagoans win! Wait? What?

Dr Snooze on December 6, 2012 at 9:43 AM

There is nothing this administration (or ANY US administration) could have done to prevent the Arab spring that started in Tunisia then Egypt. Once people got out in force to protest the regime, it was only ‘kill them all’ or negotiates. All the administration could do is side with the people and broker a peaceful transition to avoid a civil war.
In Egypt, Mubarak had to go for people to get out of the street. There was NOTHING the US could do to change that. Holding on the Mubarak would have led to what happened in Iran during Jimmy Carter. People wanted change and they got it. Now, they have to deal with the consequences and that’s what democracy and revolution are all about. There is no smooth transition from dictatorship and it gets worse before it gets better.
Like Collin Powell said: when you break it, you own it. The people of Egypt own the mess and they will deal with it. Islamists only understand brute force and many will die before it gets better there….As far the US goes, all we can do is monitor events and do our best to prevent a civil war between islamists and moderates.

The Egyptian Army may take back the power if things get out of hand. Democracy in the Middle East will always be a mirage because Islamists want dictatorship just like it is in Iran. When Assad leave, Syria will be led by Islamists too and it will get worse.

jules on December 6, 2012 at 9:46 AM

Jules-

you’re delusional. And you don’t know history. If we had backed Mubarak, he would have stayed. And the whold mess never would have happened if it hadn’t been orchestrated by our own intelligence.

The Arab Spring has been entirely the work of the CIA from the beginning.

Mubarak was our ally and as such, a guarantor of peace and stability in that region for how many decades? Hard for Republicans to criticize any of these developments when that party has been entirely on board with the Arab Spring from the beginning.

sartana on December 6, 2012 at 9:52 AM

ahhh smells like Spring!!

Glenn Beck for Secretary of State!!

PappyD61 on December 6, 2012 at 10:02 AM

sartana on December 6, 2012 at 9:52 AM

If the former head of Egyptian Intelligence, (and long time personal friend) appointed to be the Interim President of Egypt, was toppled in an alleged CIA plot, with the collusion of the Republican Party…well, while jules may be a good bit off in his assessment of the inevitability of the so-called “Arab Spring” while you, sartana, sir, are completely delusional.

The idea of CIA knocking off Mubarak is absurd. Delusional. Crap.

Why would the CIA orchestrate the violent removal of Mubarak, who did a lot more for the CIA and the United States in the region and elsewhere in the world than the public will ever know. Why would they toss him aside and allow chaos and the Ikhwan/Moslem Brotherhood and Hamas and all the rest of the rabble take over?

Unless…under direct orders from the Obama White House, from Obama directly.

Which brings us back to the idiotic pattern of Obama’s approach to the region…and Islamist terrorism in its entirety.

Obama owns this.

Four dead Americans, to include the personal representative of the President of the United States, personally chosen by Obama, would just love to testify on the matter, but they cannot. They were murdered and the primary accessory to the murder is President Obama.

He has already taken “personal responsibility”…even though he hasn’t a clue what that means.

No, this is Obama’s baby. He birthed it in Cairo in June 2009. Nourished it by ignoring the slaughter of innocents in Tehran, to include Neda Soltan, and the slaughter of innocents in Syria until it grew to massive proportions and became an “embarrassment” to the White House.

Obama? All he does is draw “red lines” (whatever the hell those are) and make stern speeches.

He brought this baby into maturity with the impetuous removal of Ghaddafi in Libya…which, if not for that, there would have been no Benghazi slaughter.

See how it all comes back together?

Obama owns this. All of it.

That is where the blame lies. That is where the responsibility is.

Do not obfuscate it by engendering made-for-TV fantasies.

Obama owns this one.

100%.

coldwarrior on December 6, 2012 at 10:22 AM

Obama owns this one.

100%.

coldwarrior on December 6, 2012 at 10:22 AM

I can’t wait to see how Syria gassing its own people is the fault of GWB or something.

Happy Nomad on December 6, 2012 at 10:44 AM

I can’t wait to see how Syria gassing its own people is the fault of GWB or something.

Happy Nomad on December 6, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Easy.

GWB will get blamed for not finding and destroying all those WMD’s that existed in Iraq (but didn’t…) that were moved to Syria.

coldwarrior on December 6, 2012 at 10:53 AM

So who made the video this time?

Cindy Munford on December 6, 2012 at 11:20 AM

Can’t wait to see how Brian Williams spins this into an Obama success story.

OxyCon on December 6, 2012 at 11:26 AM

you’re delusional. And you don’t know history. If we had backed Mubarak, he would have stayed. And the whold mess never would have happened if it hadn’t been orchestrated by our own intelligence.

The Arab Spring has been entirely the work of the CIA from the beginning.

Mubarak was our ally and as such, a guarantor of peace and stability in that region for how many decades? Hard for Republicans to criticize any of these developments when that party has been entirely on board with the Arab Spring from the beginning.

Really? How did it work in Iran with the Shah? What about in Iraq with Saddam?
The US had only 2 choices in Egypt: back the people or witness carnage. It all started in Tunisia and Egyptians just followed an example that worked.
I know history far more than you do. The world outside the US isn’t that black and white… When people finally decide to revolt, they will get result or be killed trying…

No US adminstration would have backed mubarak once the revolt started…and it started in Tunisia so it was not some covert CIA operation in Egypt…

jules on December 6, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Ah, the Arab Spring. tweet tweet tweet

Hummer53 on December 6, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Does “This is what Democracy looks like” rhyme as well when the Egyptians sing it in their native tongue?

Cindy Munford on December 6, 2012 at 11:51 AM

…At some point, I would hope, people in that part of the world will come to realize that there is a better way than the Islamist way. Being a jihadi or supporter of al ikhwan a muslimuna [Moslem Brotherhood] don’t pay the rent. Just look around to all those places where shariah rules, and everybody must submit to the will of the mullahs. Being part of the 13th Century is not the place to be.

In the West, for a long while, it was fashionable to engage in conversations about how better the world would have been if somebody or some group had stood up to Lenin, or Mao, or Adolf, in the beginning, before they got too strong…

Well, maybe the folks out in Cairo are trying to do just that.

But, remember, kids, this sort of thing could never ever happen here.

Right?

coldwarrior on December 6, 2012 at 8:10 AM

You are talking about a fundamental reformation of islam, because governance and a code of law is now an inseparable part of islam. That’s not going to happen.

A more likely outcome is that the rest of the world makes the decision to end islam with extreme prejudice. That won’t happen soon, it’ll take twenty or thirty years, but it’s the most likely outcome.

slickwillie2001 on December 6, 2012 at 11:57 AM

The Egyptian Army may take back the power if things get out of hand. Democracy in the Middle East will always be a mirage because Islamists want dictatorship just like it is in Iran. When Assad leave, Syria will be led by Islamists too and it will get worse.

jules on December 6, 2012 at 9:46 AM

Big question that I have not seen any Egyptologist answer: has Morsi effectively reorganized the military to be totally loyal to him or not? Would the Egyptian military move against the ‘liberals’ in the street if ordered to by Morsi, or would they turn on Morsi?

I’m sure he wonders the same thing.

slickwillie2001 on December 6, 2012 at 12:00 PM

And the U.S. Army will be an obedient tool for a hand that signs salary checks.

Be afraid. Be very, very afraid.

Archivarix on December 6, 2012 at 9:15 A

Anyone who actually expects the military to defy their generals (perfumed princes) and actually adhere to their oath (which most haven’t even read – much less understand) – or the police and other law enforcement, for that matter…is living in a fool’s paradise.

When the SHTF, most of us will be on our own.

Indeed, be afraid…but, never surrender.

Solaratov on December 6, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Let the Islamists and their fellow Muslims in the Middle East rot in hell, if the good people of the region aren’t ready to stand up for their own freedom.

SC.Charlie on December 6, 2012 at 12:11 PM

If Egyptians don’t shake off the Muslim Brotherhood right now, while they’ve still got a chance… they’ll be living the nightmare that is Iran.

Murf76 on December 6, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Big question that I have not seen any Egyptologist answer: has Morsi effectively reorganized the military to be totally loyal to him or not? Would the Egyptian military move against the ‘liberals’ in the street if ordered to by Morsi, or would they turn on Morsi?

I’m sure he wonders the same thing. – slickwillie2001 on December 6, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Let me know when they ban the Koran in Egypt. Then there might become a bit of hope.

SC.Charlie on December 6, 2012 at 12:15 PM

So who made the video this time?

Cindy Munford on December 6, 2012 at 11:20 AM

The FBI has dropped all other investigations and is out in full force to find and bring to justice the foul fiend who made a new vile, defamatory, mohammed-defiling (pbuh) video…which no one has actually seen, but that must be out there…somewhere.

It’s the only thing which could have so aroused the passions of the poor, misunderstood islamists.

Rest assured: whoever perpetrated this foul crime against the religion of peace will be brought to justice, prosecuted and imprisoned.

Or not…as the case may be.

Solaratov on December 6, 2012 at 12:22 PM

So who made the video this time?

Cindy Munford on December 6, 2012 at 11:20 AM

The FBI has dropped all other investigations and is out in full force to find and bring to justice the foul fiend who made a new vile, defamatory, mohammed-defiling (pbuh) video…which no one has actually seen, but that must be out there…somewhere.

It’s the only thing which could have so aroused the passions of the poor, misunderstood islamists.

Rest assured: whoever perpetrated this foul crime against the religion of peace will be brought to justice, prosecuted and imprisoned.

Or not…as the case may be.

Solaratov on December 6, 2012 at 12:22 PM

Shhh! It’s called Zero Dark Thirty and it’s a celebration of the assassination of Osama. It’s up for an Academy Award.

slickwillie2001 on December 6, 2012 at 12:55 PM

11 dead in Chicago Monday night, the Egyptians are girlie men. – claudius on December 6, 2012 at 9:04 AM

Rahm “Dead Fish” Emmanuel appears to be a great “stinking” mayor just sitting by as his town goes down the toilet. I am sure it all has to do with our gun culture and the governmental policies of past Republicans.

SC.Charlie on December 6, 2012 at 1:09 PM

How well protected is our embassy and our consulates in Egypt?

SC.Charlie on December 6, 2012 at 1:12 PM

Morsi is test-running Obama’s path to dictatorship. The first test, if you remember, was in Honduras. And the U.S. Army will be an obedient tool for a hand that signs salary checks.

Be afraid. Be very, very afraid.

Archivarix on December 6, 2012 at 9:15 AM

Glad I am, that see it alone, I do not.

How well protected is our embassy and our consulates in Egypt?

SC.Charlie on December 6, 2012 at 1:12 PM

Um, have you forgotten recent events there?

dogsoldier on December 6, 2012 at 1:26 PM

Another Obama failure.

rplat on December 6, 2012 at 8:06 AM

Or, from his point of view, another Obama success?

VorDaj on December 6, 2012 at 1:49 PM

“Fast run’m some guns while they are all Furious” and it will do U.S. some good.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on December 6, 2012 at 2:19 PM

Obama has enabled clockwork orange to be turned on in the middle east.

Now the islmaics are going to do a Sharon Tate home envasion deal.

Charles Manson knows what Obama is up to.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on December 6, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Marvelous

Schadenfreude on December 6, 2012 at 2:35 PM

…send in Hillary!

KOOLAID2 on December 6, 2012 at 7:55 PM