Raising taxes on those making over $250K will not do much good; conversely there are so many things wrong with our financial situation that NOT raising taxes on this group probably will not do much good either.

Let Obama have his tax increase – then let the GOP announce clearly that they compromised for the good of the nation but did not want nor agree with the tax increase. As Sen Paul says, let Obama own it and have to accept responsibility for something for the 1st time during his tenure. There are few signs of upcoming improvements in our economy – let go of this relatively minor skirmish and st sights on the bigger battle in the 2014 Congressional elections – this strategy could pay off big them.

Government’s first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.

How do you tell a communist? Well, it’s someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It’s someone who understands Marx and Lenin.

Ronald Reagan

And let me also mention, they we live very frugally. We have always purchased used cars, gone many years without new clothes, etc. So please do not tell my how to manage my own finances.

esr1951 on December 7, 2012 at 8:36 AM

I know, I know. This may be the fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives.

esr1951 on December 7, 2012 at 8:52 AM

Leftists always believe they know best, any evidence to the contrary be damned!

I, like you, am a fiscally responsible person who happily can and does live within a reasonable budget – clueless leftists like 0dumba are too stupid to understand and implement the wisdom of such a mentality, and are the type of people who deserve the blame for Greece’s economic problems.

Upthread, someone said that Marxists aren’t morons, which, when considering that they personify the Dunning-Kruger effect, is a ridiculous statement.

How in the world can you expect a liberal to stop telling you how to run your life?

darwin on December 7, 2012 at 8:47 AM

I know, I know. This may be the fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives.

So please do not tell my how to manage my own finances.

esr1951 on December 7, 2012 at 8:36 AM

How in the world can you expect a liberal to stop telling you how to run your life?

Thank you.

libfreeordie on December 7, 2012 at 8:19 AM

Ah yes, the greater good argument.

And yes, they did have scholarships. They did have summer jobs. We preferred to pay for our own family and not ask anyone, including our fellow citizens , for help. Our sons have thanked us many times for the fact that they can now start their lives without debt.

And let me also mention, they we live very frugally. We have always purchased used cars, gone many years without new clothes, etc. So please do not tell my how to manage my own finances.

The point is that no one is saying that there won’t be sacrifices to keep money flowing to retirees. But its better for society as a whole.

libfreeordie on December 7, 2012 at 8:19 AM

Sacrifices by very few people. It never works. The majority attacking a minority is never a good thing.

The fall tuition was due on September 1 and the spring tuition was due on January 1. We only had 4 months to collect the spring tuition money, and that’s when we had a little extra money because of that cap.

Heaven forbid anyone should get the benefit of their own money.

esr1951 on December 7, 2012 at 7:55 AM

Or your son could have taken out a loan for part of the tuition or done what many working class students do, gotten a work-study job. Or done as I did and got an academic scholarship. The point is that no one is saying that there won’t be sacrifices to keep money flowing to retirees. But its better for society as a whole.

The alternative is to make families financially responsible for retirees, then those issues around “fall tuition” still become an issue.

Papillon [1973 / Official Trailer / english]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW8Uk-34Sn4

canopfor on December 7, 2012 at 6:45 AM

I liked the book better than the movie, but both were very good! Also, thanks for the morning update! Every time I watch the Egypt live stream they are standing around doing nothing, but it’s still interesting. And poor Japan.

O/T: Is Conservatism the New Leprosy? My take.

kingsjester on December 7, 2012 at 6:34 AM

Good article!

Heaven forbid anyone should get the benefit of their own money.

esr1951 on December 7, 2012 at 7:55 AM

Liberals believe it doesn’t belong to you. You took it from “poor people” so it’s only right they take it back and give it to them.

It’s been seeming that way around here for a while, too. But, on the DeMint Thread, I saw some of that ol’ spark back.
Thanks for reading!

kingsjester on December 7, 2012 at 6:50 AM

The ol’ spark will be back in as many threads as I can hit.

libfreeordie on December 7, 2012 at 6:42 AM

We are not rich by any means , but 10 years back when the cap was about $95K, that extra money at the end of the year sure helped us pay for our in-state college tuition for our sons. The fall tuition was due on September 1 and the spring tuition was due on January 1. We only had 4 months to collect the spring tuition money, and that’s when we had a little extra money because of that cap.

Heaven forbid anyone should get the benefit of their own money.

Here’s what you do. Eliminate the 104K cap on social security/medicare taxes. Done and done.

libfreeordie on December 7, 2012 at 6:42 AM

Sure, what then? Right now social insurance taxes barely cover social security. What about Medicare, Medicaid, welfare and all the other socialist programs straight out of the Soviet Constitution?

When is enough ever enough for you people? Why is it every goal of yours requires the government to force it down our throats and more money stolen from us?

https://twitter.com/Morning_Joe/status/277025374758641664/photo/1

A great movie. Thanks for reading!

kingsjester on December 7, 2012 at 6:50 AM

yeah

:)

It’s been seeming that way around here for a while, too. But, on the DeMint Thread, I saw some of that ol’ spark back.
Thanks for reading!

kingsjester on December 7, 2012 at 6:34 AM

morning KJ

it is in DC and California….

let’s fight for 2014!

kingsjester on December 7, 2012 at 6:36 AM

kingsjester:

Good Morning KJ,on the Leprosy,at the rate this narrative is going,
it could be,

and Leprosy,reminds me of this movie!:)
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Papillon [1973 / Official Trailer / english]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW8Uk-34Sn4