Quotes of the day

posted at 10:01 pm on December 6, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

House Speaker John Boehner is under pressure to defy Republican Party orthodoxy on income taxes to rein in the U.S. deficit, with an increasing number of his rank- and-file members saying they’re willing to discuss raising rates for top earners.

A few dozen Republicans have joined a bipartisan call to consider “all options” on taxes and entitlement programs, signaling they are ready to bargain on President Barack Obama’s main condition for a budget deal this month: a tax rate increase for the top 2 percent of U.S. earners.

“We’re at a fork in the road,” said former New Hampshire Senator Judd Gregg, a Republican. Obama and Boehner need to realize “they have to get in a room and work out a deal,” he said, or positions will “start to harden and both sides to some degree are going to be willing to accept going over the cliff.”

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The adage in Washington is that if nobody is talking about what they’re really talking about, that’s a good sign for getting a deal.

In what may be just such a positive sign, President Barack Obama, Speaker John A. Boehner, R-Ohio, and their aides on Thursday seemed to be zipping their lips on the behind-the-scenes fiscal cliff talks after a private Wednesday phone call between the two men. Of course, both sides also continued their public relations fight over debt and taxes.

Lines of communication are open,” one House GOP leadership aide said.

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Consider the Grand Bargain negotiating track. After laughing at President Obama’s offer, Republicans made a counteroffer, of sorts, the other day. One problem with the budget plan put forward by John Boehner is that it’s not a plan, just a sketchy bunch of topline numbers that doesn’t do any of the work of explaining where the higher revenue or lower spending will actually come from. Another problem is that even the sketchy outline has provoked howls of outrage from the right and probably couldn’t pass the House, even without putting any meat on its bones.

So the Grand Bargain track has gotten nowhere. By contrast, the mean, nasty partisan confrontation track is making steady progress. This alternate theory says that if Obama must force Republicans to accept the expiration of the Bush tax cuts for the rich before any deal can happen. And slowly but surely, Republicans are congealing around the recognition that they’ll have to accept the expiration of those tax cuts.

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Right now, he is hoping to lead his fractious GOP to an orderly surrender. The question is no longer whether Republicans will give on taxes; they already have. All that remains to be negotiated is how they will increase taxes, and whether they will do it before or after the government reaches the “fiscal cliff.” …

Earlier in the week, Boehner offered Obama an $800 billion tax increase with the blessing of Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, the Republicans’ vice-presidential nominee this year, and other House leaders. The speaker is trying to hold out for making those hikes come from fewer deductions rather than higher rates, but the White House is feeling so confident that it dismissed Boehner’s offer out of hand. Obama communications director Dan Pfeiffer told Peter Baker of the New York Times that Obama “won’t sign a deal that doesn’t have higher rates for the wealthy. Until they cross that bridge, nothing else is relevant.”

Republicans are looking for face-saving ways to retreat, such as allowing a tax increase to pass the House by voting “present” instead of “no.” Jeb Hensarling (Tex.), the outgoing chairman of the House GOP conference, acknowledged Wednesday on CNN that “the president is going to get his revenue one way or the other.”

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SEN. RAND PAUL: I have yet another thought on how we can fix this. Why don’t we let the Democrats pass whatever they want? If they are the party of higher taxes, all the Republicans vote present and let the Democrats raise taxes as high as they want to raise them, let Democrats in the Senate raise taxes, let the president sign it and then make them own the tax increase. And when the economy stalls, when the economy sputters, when people lose their jobs, they know which party to blame, the party of high taxes. Let’s don’t be the party of just almost as high taxes. …I will announce tonight on your show that I will work with Harry Reid to let him pass his big old tax hike with a simple majority if that’s what Harry Reid wants, because then they will become the party of high taxes and they can own it.

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Reporters: Why is he afraid to put the President’s plan on the floor. Do you think you have democratic support?

Carney: We know that, and the filibuster is certainly an issue here, that we don’t have 60 votes in the Senate. So, I would not argue with the idea that the President’s proposal cannot at this time, or has not at this time, garnered Republican support. That’s what this debate is about. We are very confident that the Democrats support the principle that we need to have $1.6 trillion in revenue, asking the wealthy to pay more as part of a balanced package that the President has put forward. I understand that you’re going along with the gamesmanship here. We’re trying to be serious about these negotiations. We have put forward a proposal. We have seen no substantive proposal, especially on revenues, from the Republicans.

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Let’s understand President Obama’s strategy in the “fiscal cliff” negotiations. It has nothing to do with economics or real fiscal reform. This is entirely about politics. It’s Phase Two of the 2012 campaign. The election returned him to office. The fiscal-cliff negotiations are designed to break the Republican opposition and grant him political supremacy, something he thinks he earned with his landslide 2.8-point victory margin on Election Day. …

What’s going on here? Having taken Boehner’s sword, and then his shirt, Obama sent Geithner to demand Boehner’s trousers. Perhaps this is what Obama means by a balanced approach. …

Such nonsense abounds because Obama’s objective in these negotiations is not economic but political: not to solve the debt crisis but to fracture the Republican majority in the House. Get Boehner to cave, pass the tax hike with Democratic votes provided by Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, and let the Republican civil war begin.

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At House Speaker John A. Boehner’s request, Senate leaders and Representative Nancy Pelosi have been excluded from talks to avert a fiscal crisis, leaving it to Mr. Boehner and President Obama alone to find a deal, Congressional aides say.

All sides, even the parties excluded, say clearing the negotiating room improves the chance of success. It adds complexity as the two negotiators consult separately with the leaders not in the room. But it also minimizes the number of people who need to say yes to an initial agreement.

“This is now the speaker and the president working this through,” said Senator Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, the Senate’s No. 2 Democrat.

White House aides and the speaker’s staff, by mutual agreement, have largely shut down public communication about the talks to avert hundreds of billions of dollars in automatic tax increases and spending cuts set to begin in January if no deal can be reached. Both sides said on Thursday that lines of communication remained open.

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thatsafactjack on December 7, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Replay..:):)

Dire Straits on December 7, 2012 at 12:12 AM

SparkPlug on December 7, 2012 at 12:08 AM

You’re very sweet, Spark. No wonder everyone loves you. :)

thatsafactjack on December 7, 2012 at 12:12 AM

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 12:10 AM

That whole thing was so stupid it just galvanized my belief that morons are teaching our youth.

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 12:12 AM

Okay, Jackie. That blaze guitar went straight to my FB page.

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 12:14 AM

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 12:10 AM

That whole thing was so stupid it just galvanized my belief that morons are teaching our youth.

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 12:12 AM

Marxists are not morons, they have no soul nor conscience, but they are not morons.

SWalker on December 7, 2012 at 12:15 AM

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 12:10 AM

You’re absolutely right, John, they don’t. Progressives have no idea what it takes to make a society work. They like to talk a great deal about their ‘vision’…but if we look carefully at that ‘vision’… we soon realize that it’s the vision of utopia of a twelve year old kid.

thatsafactjack on December 7, 2012 at 12:15 AM

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 12:12 AM

I enjoyed the takedown of the video in the Green Room today. And it appears by way of Twitchy that Mr. Asner has a urinary obsession.

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 12:15 AM

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 12:14 AM

I’m glad you liked it, John! I thought it was pretty cool, too.:)

thatsafactjack on December 7, 2012 at 12:16 AM

thatsafactjack on December 7, 2012 at 12:15 AM

Schoolhouse Rock, it ain’t.

“I’m just a bill, yes I’m only a bill, and I’m sitting her on Capitol Hill…”

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 12:18 AM

Revenue is not the problem.

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 12:10 AM

The Republican’s being so concerned with the richest 2% is though.

VorDaj on December 7, 2012 at 12:18 AM

Bmore on December 7, 2012 at 12:12 AM

I thought it was really going to be your bride. I love that song. I don’t know anything about playing the piano but it doesn’t seem like an easy song.

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 12:18 AM

My better half is learning a new song on piano. I thought you might like to hear it. Remember she is still learning it.

Bmore on December 7, 2012 at 12:12 AM

Baad mr B. She better learn fast then.

arnold ziffel on December 7, 2012 at 12:19 AM

The democrats know damn well that the extra money collected from the wealthy, by taking away their tax cuts, will not be much more than a few spits and pees in the ocean compared to all the government spending on various forms of welfare and boondoggles, but that’s not the point and it never has been. The point is to paint Republicans as being overly concerned with the wealthy and at that the democrats are a big success and because of it gain probably a 5% advantage in every election now.

VorDaj on December 6, 2012 at 11:42 PM

Actually, the point of the left is to get the class warfare going with rising taxes for the big income earners, only, and then to note that it isn’t enough so that they can push for really punitive tax hikes on “the rich”. That’s why they are saying, now, that they are only looking to “raise taxes on the rich a little bit”. Later, they will just come back and say that the “little bit” wasn’t nearly enough and they will push for major, MAJOR tax hikes on “the rich” along with huge welfare grants through taxes (i.e. “tax cuts” to the left) to the poor. They will continue doing this until they are stopped by whatever ends up stopping them (not the GOP, evidently).

The left isn’t looking at getting electoral advantages so much as fundamentally deforming the nation (which they’ve already done). Once they got away with ObamaScare and emerged stronger in 2012 from it … they don’t see anything standing in their way. In fact, there isn’t, which is why it’s time for a national divorce to rid ourselves of these miscreants, third worlders, and idiot America-haters. Otherwise … well, we see what happens otherwise.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on December 7, 2012 at 12:19 AM

Evening Bmore

Schadenfreude on December 7, 2012 at 12:19 AM

Dire Straits on December 7, 2012 at 12:12 AM

Very cool tune. I don’t mind a replay at all. :)

thatsafactjack on December 7, 2012 at 12:20 AM

The fiscal-cliff negotiations are designed to break the Republican opposition and grant him political supremacy, something he thinks he earned with his landslide 2.8-point victory margin on Election Day.

The only thing OT I want to comment on. :)

There.

Axe on December 7, 2012 at 12:20 AM

TheRightMan on December 6, 2012 at 11:19 PM

Nice to see you survived the election:-) It didn’t turn out anything like we thot it was going to tho.

bluefox on December 7, 2012 at 12:21 AM

Bmore on December 7, 2012 at 12:12 AM

That’s a beautiful song, Bmore. :)

thatsafactjack on December 7, 2012 at 12:22 AM

Evening Schadenfreude

Bmore on December 7, 2012 at 12:22 AM

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 12:15 AM

I saw that. It says that the video has been taken down, but I’m not sure if it is completely gone or just had the bodily function portions taken out. I think it is very appropriate that Asner have that obsession since he appears to be the appendage required.

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 12:22 AM

Cindy Munford on December 6, 2012 at 11:50 PM

I think Rand is right about letting the Democrats increase taxes as much as they want, and letting them own it, but I would hold the line on the debt ceiling to force the Democrats to raise taxes or cut spending as they see fit to balance the budget, but balance it they must.

FloatingRock on December 7, 2012 at 12:23 AM

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 12:18 AM

This is the same group that thinks that Bill Maher is funny, and that it’s funny when a grown man like Ed Asner asks a Fox commenter if he can urinate on him. You have to keep in mind with whom you’re dealing.

thatsafactjack on December 7, 2012 at 12:24 AM

I’ll be darned! It seems to work both coming AND going! lol!

thatsafactjack on December 6, 2012 at 11:16 PM

dang it Jackie, gimme back — that — book. This stays in the oubliette! Also — secret? Remember? :)

Axe on December 7, 2012 at 12:25 AM

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 12:18 AM

; ) I find myself humming this tune all the time lately. She thought she should learn it. Its a love hate thing.

Bmore on December 7, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Axe on December 7, 2012 at 12:25 AM

Sorry, Axe! :( You know I get carried away! It won’t happen again. Besides… I don’t like the way that spell made me look! lol!

thatsafactjack on December 7, 2012 at 12:26 AM

What should Republicans do? Stop giving stuff away. If Obama remains intransigent, let him be the one to take us over the cliff. And then let the new House, which is sworn in weeks before the president, immediately introduce and pass a full across-the-board restoration of the George W. Bush tax cuts.

Obama will counter with the usual all-but-the-rich tax cut — as the markets gyrate and the economy begins to wobble under his feet.

Result? We’re back to square one, but with a more level playing field. The risk to Obama will be rising and the debt ceiling will be looming. Most important of all, however, Republicans will still be in possession of their unity, their self-respect — and their trousers.

I wouldn’t bet on them still having their dry trousers.

Schadenfreude on December 7, 2012 at 12:26 AM

VorDaj on December 7, 2012 at 12:18 AM

It’s good to see that Obama’s class warfare and the media’s take has been bought hook line and sinker by you. Decade after decade Republicans have fallen for the Lucy with the football, Wimpy and the hamburger, I’ll gladly give you spending cuts for tax increases today. And Charlie Brown (Republicans) always ends up flat on his back and Wimpy always eats without paying. But pllleeasee don’t let people say we like the rich. Symbolism over substance, it works every time. Republicans should vote present. Nothing else.

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 12:28 AM

You know, seriously, I learned long ago that I really didn’t aspire to great wealth or fame. I’ve known many with one or the other and some with both. It’s not something I’d wish on myself. I seek balance. Comfort and contentment. As the Greeks pointed out “All things in moderation… nothing to excess. ” That’s my goal. :)

thatsafactjack on December 6, 2012 at 11:56 PM

When the time comes, I do hope you will drop me a line over at my blog, with the appropriate info so I can check out your work… ;)

SWalker on December 7, 2012 at 12:01 AM

Sounds all balanced chi and black-belty.

Axe on December 7, 2012 at 12:28 AM

Which tells me they honestly have no idea how the bubble was created or how it burst.

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Or anything else. It was a primer for me into their basic outline. Everything from the way they imagine society functions broadly to how they think it unbalances. The ignorance was staggering.

Axe on December 7, 2012 at 12:29 AM

Marxists are not morons, they have no soul nor conscience, but they are not morons.

SWalker on December 7, 2012 at 12:15 AM

At the top level, that is true. But most of those teaching kids in the public education system at the local level really are nothing more than useful idiots who were weak-minded enough to buy into what their professors were telling them as far as those weak-minded education majors being the path to the future for the children they would be teaching and that the old capitalist way of doing things was outmoded and only old, unthinking and people set in their ways were unable of seeing how America was unfair and needed to be changed. I would go so far as to say that some of the professors are also useful idiots who learned at the feet of the real evil marxists like Bill Ayers and his ilk and then dutifully trotted off to become professors at second tier higher education institutions where they parrot the talking points but don’t have the intellectual horsepower to fully understand what they are actually supporting nor to be diabolically clever in implementing that plan.

AZfederalist on December 7, 2012 at 12:30 AM

SWalker on December 7, 2012 at 12:01 AM

Sounds all balanced chi and black-belty.

Axe on December 7, 2012 at 12:28 AM

Oh come now, it’s not like I sit around solving the universes most complex mysteries in my spare time or anything… o_O

SWalker on December 7, 2012 at 12:31 AM

he appears to be the appendage required.

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 12:22 AM

Well played, Mrs. Munford, well played as always.

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 12:31 AM

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 12:18 AM

Good evening Friend..It is nice to see your words of wisdom..:)

Dire Straits on December 7, 2012 at 12:32 AM

The ignorance was staggering.

Axe on December 7, 2012 at 12:29 AM

Yes, a primer. They really do believe unicorns poop rainbow skittles.

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 12:32 AM

FloatingRock on December 7, 2012 at 12:23 AM

The debt ceiling is definitely a bit trickier and I think that fight can be left until after the first of the year. I’d like to see a better strategy than the one that has been employed over an over again. Wasn’t sequestration the result of the last battle and now everyone is says they are trying to keep it from taking place? Right now I am just so damned angry, if they are going to cave, cave in a spectacular way.

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 12:32 AM

Dire Straits on December 7, 2012 at 12:32 AM

You got your money on Notre Dame?

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 12:33 AM

Axe on December 7, 2012 at 12:29 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on December 7, 2012 at 12:33 AM

he appears to be the appendage required.

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 12:22 AM

…with the perfect name too

Schadenfreude on December 7, 2012 at 12:33 AM

Axe on December 7, 2012 at 12:28 AM

I’m working on it… sort of a work in progress one might say. The comfort actually turns out to be easier for me over the long haul than the contentment part. It doesn’t pay to go for contentment when you lean toward perfectionist. It makes for a difficult path. :)

thatsafactjack on December 7, 2012 at 12:34 AM

You got your money on Notre Dame?

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 12:33 AM

No sir..I’m rolling with the tide!!..:)

Dire Straits on December 7, 2012 at 12:34 AM

Bmore on December 7, 2012 at 12:26 AM

She won’t be sorry that she put in the effort and it will stand for comfort and pleasure in a while.

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 12:34 AM

SWalker on December 7, 2012 at 12:32 AM

Sorry I missed your post earlier regarding stopping by your blog. I do stop by frequently, to see what you’re up to and to get your perspective. As to my work… I’m trying to decide whether to use a pen name or my own. I’ll get back to you when I pull the trigger on that decision. But thanks so much for the invite. I truly appreciate it. :)

thatsafactjack on December 7, 2012 at 12:36 AM

I’m rolling with the tide!!..:)

Dire Straits on December 7, 2012 at 12:34 AM

I gotta root for the Irish, because Stanford lost to them in a squeaker in OT.

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 12:36 AM

No sir..I’m rolling with the tide!!..:)

Dire Straits on December 7, 2012 at 12:34 AM

A Red Elephant man eh… ;p

SWalker on December 7, 2012 at 12:36 AM

My better half is learning a new song on piano. I thought you might like to hear it. Remember she is still learning it.

Bmore on December 7, 2012 at 12:12 AM

Nice. :) Thanks for linking that.

I’m working on it… sort of a work in progress one might say. The comfort actually turns out to be easier for me over the long haul than the contentment part. It doesn’t pay to go for contentment when you lean toward perfectionist. It makes for a difficult path. :)

thatsafactjack on December 7, 2012 at 12:34 AM

Seek the harshless mellow. :)

Axe on December 7, 2012 at 12:36 AM

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 12:10 AM

I would love to see a man on the street discussion on how the rich specifically have kept others poor. I bet it would be..ah… enlightening.

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 12:37 AM

I see you…

SWalker on December 7, 2012 at 12:38 AM

thatsafactjack on December 7, 2012 at 12:34 AM

This is very exciting. You must have a lot of discipline. I tend to be a better employee.

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 12:38 AM

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 12:34 AM

I think you are correct. Its a nice piece.

Bmore on December 7, 2012 at 12:39 AM

Schadenfreude on December 7, 2012 at 12:33 AM

Yep, he pretty much covers both sides of an offensive coin.

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 12:40 AM

Axe on December 7, 2012 at 12:36 AM

Ah, yes, the elusive harshless mellow. I find it, rarely, but when I do most often it’s when I’m immersed in my work and something there is singing to me.

thatsafactjack on December 7, 2012 at 12:40 AM

I bet it would be..ah… enlightening.

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 12:37 AM

I’m not a big fan of Hannity, but he said it best: I’ve never been hired by a poor person.

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Vote present.
Let the scurrilous Dems own it- just like they own Obamacare.
LIB.
We’ll rebuild it.

justltl on December 7, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on December 7, 2012 at 12:33 AM

Hi Dire!

straight
[streyt]
adjective
1. without a bend, angle, or curve; not curved; direct: a straight path.

strait
[streyt]
noun
1. Often, straits. (used with a singular verb) a narrow passage of water connecting two large bodies of water.

. . . in case anyone was confused. :)

Axe on December 7, 2012 at 12:42 AM

It’s good to see that Obama’s class warfare and the media’s take has been bought hook line and sinker by you.

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 12:28 AM

I haven’t bought anything like that, not by the pound nor even the penny, it’s not in my nature, and you seemed to have missed my whole point which is the Republicans’ choice of battlespace is about as good as Custer’s.

VorDaj on December 7, 2012 at 12:44 AM

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 12:38 AM

Thank you, Cindy. That’s a great compliment, indeed. I learned that discipline the hard way. Working under deadlines for years and taking constant criticism, both constructive and destructive. ( The secret is learning to tell the difference, take grateful notes on the constructive criticism, and ignore the destructive or petty criticisms. It’s a sense and a muscle you develop with experience.)

As to your assertion that you make a better employee, from what I’ve seen of your comments here, you’re a natural leader and I think you likely excel at anything you decide you want to do.

thatsafactjack on December 7, 2012 at 12:45 AM

I always thought Dire Strait referred to the path between Scylla and Charybdis.

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 12:45 AM

I’m not a big fan of Hannity, but he said it best: I’ve never been hired by a poor person.

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 12:41 AM

A poor person can hire lots of people if he convinces them he’s not poor. Obama convinced people to vote for him with an even bigger con, so why not?

VorDaj on December 7, 2012 at 12:47 AM

dire straits – a state of extreme distress…unless one sips lots of beer…in which case one smiles on-going

Schadenfreude on December 7, 2012 at 12:47 AM

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Yep, he’s right. He just needs to be right about a bigger variety of things. Less repetition would be good. But bless his heart and all those encouraged by his work.

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 12:48 AM

I learned that discipline the hard way.

thatsafactjack on December 7, 2012 at 12:45 AM

I did the journalism thing for a long time. But I have to say we were born to it. The listening instead of speaking. The agonizing patience until something bubbles up.

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 12:49 AM

SWalker on December 7, 2012 at 12:47 AM

Great tune. :)

thatsafactjack on December 7, 2012 at 12:49 AM

SWalker on December 7, 2012 at 12:47 AM

Ack!!! Must restore sanity.

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 12:53 AM

A Red Elephant man eh… ;p

SWalker on December 7, 2012 at 12:36 AM

Actually a red wallet..:)

Dire Straits on December 7, 2012 at 12:54 AM

SWalker on December 7, 2012 at 12:47 AM

Ack!!! Must restore sanity.

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Oh… You want some sanity do you

SWalker on December 7, 2012 at 12:56 AM

VorDaj on December 7, 2012 at 12:44 AM

Nothing good is going to come of this, if they stand on the principles or compromise cave to Obama. The Republicans took a huge amount of heat for the government shut down and the same people who whine about it, to this day, would be hard pressed to come up with one thing that they missed while it was down. There is no fiscal cliff, just like there was no meltdown that required TARP. All of these things are political and media manufactured crisis to control behavior and skirt the law. I am pretty angry right now and the feeling that I am being manipulated is not helping. It doesn’t make any difference what the Republicans do, they are losers.

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 12:56 AM

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 12:49 AM

Yes. But I confess, I start seeking inspiration when I get becalmed. I pursue the muse relentlessly when I must.

thatsafactjack on December 7, 2012 at 12:57 AM

High Water Everywhere – Bonamassa

thatsafactjack on December 7, 2012 at 1:00 AM

thatsafactjack on December 7, 2012 at 12:45 AM

I definitely understand the criticism part, discerning constructive and destructive is one thing but leaning not to let the destructive hurt you is another. It’s hard not to try to please people, even after it is obvious that they can’t be pleased.

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 1:00 AM

I pursue the muse relentlessly when I must.

thatsafactjack on December 7, 2012 at 12:57 AM

That’s just it. She can’t be chased, she is too fickle. She comes to me most when I am hiking steep hills with really great tunes.

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 1:01 AM

The debt ceiling is definitely a bit trickier

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 12:32 AM

All Republicans need to do to hold Democrats accountable is to cut up the nations credit card but let the Democrats increase taxes and/or cut spending in some ratio to balance the budget. It’s not tricky, it’s as easy as common sense.

FloatingRock on December 7, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Schadenfreude on December 7, 2012 at 12:47 AM

The beer helps..BUT everything has a limit!!..:)

Dire Straits on December 7, 2012 at 1:02 AM

discerning constructive and destructive is one thing

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Jackie has a thick skin. It’s more that people will give you notes just because they feel the need to be part of the process. Producers are writers who can’t write. So they’re constantly giving you notes.

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 1:03 AM

I definitely understand the criticism part, discerning constructive and destructive is one thing but leaning not to let the destructive hurt you is another. It’s hard not to try to please people, even after it is obvious that they can’t be pleased.

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 1:00 AM

You want to know how to grow thick skin and not give a damned what people think or say about you? Become a professional musician. After your 20th or 30th vicious nasty hateful review, your skin get’s might damned thick.

SWalker on December 7, 2012 at 1:03 AM

Axe on December 7, 2012 at 12:42 AM

Lets go with the second one..:)

Dire Straits on December 7, 2012 at 1:04 AM

I pursue the muse relentlessly when I must.

thatsafactjack on December 7, 2012 at 12:57 AM

That’s just it. She can’t be chased, she is too fickle. She comes to me most when I am hiking steep hills with really great tunes.

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 1:01 AM

The best way to get the Muse to come to you… Is to make a serious effort at chasing her away. ;p

SWalker on December 7, 2012 at 1:05 AM

Torches and lamposts
And hot tar and feathers.
Dem politicians with ankles in fetters.
All of the leftists their asses in slings.
These are a few of my favorite things.

When the dog bites, when the bee stings
When I’m feeling sad
I simply remember my favorite things
And then I don’t feel so bad.

justltl on December 7, 2012 at 1:05 AM

SWalker on December 7, 2012 at 1:03 AM

I’ll bet. Age will do it for you to. I can’t be bothered if people don’t like me. They might even be right but we’ll all be better for not worrying about it.

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 1:06 AM

thatsafactjack on December 7, 2012 at 12:03 AM

Good luck and Godspeed to you!..:)

Dire Straits on December 7, 2012 at 1:07 AM

The Republicans took a huge amount of heat for the government shut down and the same people who whine about it, to this day, would be hard pressed to come up with one thing that they missed while it was down.

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 12:56 AM

Actually, the GOP only took heat from the media, not the voters. The GOP only lost 2 seats in the House in 1996 and won 2 seats in the Senate.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on December 7, 2012 at 1:07 AM

SWalker on December 7, 2012 at 1:03 AM

I’ll bet. Age will do it for you to. I can’t be bothered if people don’t like me. They might even be right but we’ll all be better for not worrying about it.

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 1:06 AM

Yup, pretty much… ;)

SWalker on December 7, 2012 at 1:07 AM

FloatingRock on December 7, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Do you think either side has the will to do that? I think we are at the point where we borrow so much money that the taxpayers are almost completely out of the equation as a revenue source. Which is exactly why the don’t give a flying flip what we think.

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 1:09 AM

The Republicans took a huge amount of heat for the government shut down

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 12:56 AM

But not this time. There’s no reason to shut down the government because Republicans are going to let Democrats hike taxes, or cut spending, to balance the budget. If the government shuts down it will only be because the Democrats refused to pay for it, they will be solely responsible.

FloatingRock on December 7, 2012 at 1:09 AM

You want some sanity do you…

SWalker on December 7, 2012 at 12:56 AM

Hm. I’ve seen Jeff Beck three times and never warmed to him.

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 1:09 AM

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 1:06 AM

Like I said earlier..You are on a roll lady..:)

Dire Straits on December 7, 2012 at 1:10 AM

make a serious effort at chasing her away. ;p

SWalker on December 7, 2012 at 1:05 AM

Yes.

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 1:10 AM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on December 7, 2012 at 1:07 AM

You are right but I think you will notice that they care more about what the press says and thinks than the people.

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 1:11 AM

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 1:09 AM

Serious ???.Why??..:)

Dire Straits on December 7, 2012 at 1:11 AM

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 1:01 AM

You’re right about the muse being elusive and even fickle. However, sometimes an immersion in rich images and text can help me. It’s one of the reasons that I play music while I write.

thatsafactjack on December 7, 2012 at 1:11 AM

SWalker on December 7, 2012 at 12:56 AM

Hm. I’ve seen Jeff Beck three times and never warmed to him.

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 1:09 AM

ROTFLMAO… That’s not Jeff Beck… It was Yngwie Malmsteen – You Don’t Remember…

SWalker on December 7, 2012 at 1:12 AM

I pursue the muse relentlessly when I must.

thatsafactjack on December 7, 2012 at 12:57 AM

That’s just it. She can’t be chased, she is too fickle. She comes to me most when I am hiking steep hills with really great tunes.

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 1:01 AM

The best way to get the Muse to come to you… Is to make a serious effort at chasing her away. ;p

SWalker on December 7, 2012 at 1:05 AM

There’s always a ton of yeoman’s work to be done when she’s skipping over at Fred’s. Things to fix, that kind of thing. And I can usually get some water flowing over in outline land — that surprised me when I did it the first time. Answering questions, wondering what’s behind a door.

A poem or a song is tougher. That explodes and goes away. :)

Nathaniel Hawthorne said this cool thing . . . K, brb . . .

Axe on December 7, 2012 at 1:12 AM

FloatingRock on December 7, 2012 at 1:09 AM

I have zero confidence that any spending cuts will occur. Ever.

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 1:13 AM

ROTFLMAO… That’s not Jeff Beck… It was Yngwie Malmsteen – You Don’t Remember…

SWalker on December 7, 2012 at 1:12 AM

I know, I saw the tagline. Same impresario stuff. Just doesn’t do it for me.

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 1:15 AM

Nathaniel Hawthorne said this cool thing . . . K, brb . . .

Axe on December 7, 2012 at 1:12 AM

`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

SWalker on December 7, 2012 at 1:15 AM

Dire Straits on December 7, 2012 at 1:10 AM

If I believed in this crap, I would tell you that I am in the anger stage of grief over the election. But I really might just be in the anger stage of anger that there are so many stupid people in this country.

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 1:16 AM

FloatingRock on December 7, 2012 at 1:09 AM

And how are the Democrats going to get blamed for not paying for it if the Republican control the house and hold the purse strings?

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 1:17 AM

Cindy Munford on December 7, 2012 at 1:16 AM

I agree..Obie does not scare me near as much as the folks that voted for him..:)

Dire Straits on December 7, 2012 at 1:18 AM

It’s one of the reasons that I play music while I write.

thatsafactjack on December 7, 2012 at 1:11 AM

I used to play a lot of guitar to get my juiced up. But it pales in comparison to heavy physical exertion. Everyone is different, I guess.

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2012 at 1:18 AM

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