Michigan, the next right-to-work state?

posted at 5:31 pm on December 6, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

The Republican majority in the Michigan legislature is using their lame-duck to make moves on joining the ranks of the 23 already right-to-work states by passing measures that would put an end to mandatory dues in union shops in both the private and public sector. Through the first two years of his tenure, Republican Gov. Rick Snyder maintained that right-to-work legislation wouldn’t be a priority for him (the union-rights ruckus in Wisconsin not so long ago provides some hint as to why), but the Michigan legislature decided to press forward and Snyder said today that he isn’t going to veto the legislation if it comes to his desk:

Republican Governor Rick Snyder said the legislation would cover the public and private sectors, with exemptions for police and firefighters, and he hoped it would be passed before lawmakers adjourn for the holidays.

“Quite often people call it right-to-work, but I think it is a much better description to say that this is about fairness in the workplace and equality in the workplace,” Snyder said.

Snyder said he was asking for an act to be passed promptly and he would sign it when it arrived on his desk.

This would be quite the setback for the influence of the many unions in the Rust-Belt regions; Michigan happens to be the home of the United Auto Workers, the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, and smaller unions part of the AFL-CIO. As you can probably imagine, the unions were not at all pleased with today’s legislative goings-on… to say the least:

Thousands of people protested “right-to-work” legislation in and around Michigan’s Capitol in Lansing, leading authorities to block entrance to the building, police said Thursday.

Adamczyk said “a couple of thousand people” were inside the Capitol and 1,000 to 2,000 or more were in the area.

One of the troopers used pepper spray against a protester who was among a group attempting to rush the state Senate chambers, Adamczyk said.

MSP spokeswoman Shannon Banner said eight people were taken into custody and face potential charges of assault and/or disobeying a lawful order from state police.

Yikes. As I noted after the election, we’re looking at another four years of President Obama and it’s not going to be easy for conservatives to accomplish much at the federal level for awhile; what the Republican governors do with their platforms and the examples they set in their states are going to make for some mightily important battles in the time to come. Says Shikha Dalmia over at Reason:

My own hunch? Right to Work is to Michigan Republicans now what ObamaCare was to Congressional Democrats three years ago. They regard this as the single biggest step that the state needs to take to break the chokehold of unions and bring manufacturers back to the state. (Not a single foreign automaker, with the exception of a Mazda plant in Flat Rock that later got bought by Ford, has ever opened a factory in Michigan even though its highly trained auto workforce, one would think, gives it a natural advantage.) If Michigan joins Indiana and many of its southern competitors in becoming an RTW state, it will give an instant shot in the arm to its moribund economy. And the political stars are never going to be aligned better so they’ll be damned if they don’t get it done. So, I think, Snyder is going to continue to press them to back off – and they are going to continue to refuse. And ultimately he’ll have to go along or completely lose credibility in the party.


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It will happen when pigs fly.

they lie on December 6, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Best news I’ve heard all day. Everybody deserves a choice as to who they’re willing to associate with.

Murf76 on December 6, 2012 at 5:35 PM

…too stupid here!

KOOLAID2 on December 6, 2012 at 5:36 PM

The wussy Pubs. had the opportunity to put the unions out of business when they controlled the house, the senate and the WH. They did nothing but spend more money and increase the size of the Fed. Gubmint. Pubs. are useless. Absolutely useless. We as conservatives should quit defending these Democrat lite Richard heads. The sooner we can get rid of Pubs., the better. They suck.

they lie on December 6, 2012 at 5:37 PM

Michigan House Passes First Piece Of “Right To Work” Legislation – Moves to State Senate

Read more at: http://www.monroenews.com/news/2012/dec/06/right-work-legislation-moving-ahead-lansing/

sentinelrules on December 6, 2012 at 5:37 PM

So Michigan voted for a GOP legislature and governor in 2010 that is conservative enough to pass right-to-work then voted for Obama in 2012. I don’t understand these people.

Mark1971 on December 6, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Blue on blue

Schadenfreude on December 6, 2012 at 5:42 PM

Thousands of people protested “right-to-work” legislation in and around Michigan’s Capitol in Lansing

These morons are protesting the freedom to join a union? They want people to be forced to join a union and pay dues? Liberals are quite totalitarian bastards … aren’t they?

darwin on December 6, 2012 at 5:43 PM

Feel good story of the day!

rockmom on December 6, 2012 at 5:43 PM

I don’t understand these people.

Well, it’s obvious the results weren’t outside the Margin of Fraud;
result:
Obama Wins!

Another Drew on December 6, 2012 at 5:51 PM

So do the Republicans still hold the majority in the next legislature?

Cindy Munford on December 6, 2012 at 5:52 PM

I wish the PA GOP had the nerve to do this, but the teachers’ unions have scared some of them away from charter schools and vouchers, so they’re unlikely to be bold enough for this.

Wethal on December 6, 2012 at 5:52 PM

So Michigan voted for a GOP legislature and governor in 2010 that is conservative enough to pass right-to-work then voted for Obama in 2012. I don’t understand these people.

Mark1971 on December 6, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Actually, Michigan voted down a ballot initiative that would have barred RTW measures under the state constitution

sentinelrules on December 6, 2012 at 5:53 PM

So do the Republicans still hold the majority in the next legislature?

Cindy Munford on December 6, 2012 at 5:52 PM

Well, it’s before the new legislature convenes in the New Year. However, even with some losses, the GOP still holds the majority in both houses.

Thank you redistricting.

sentinelrules on December 6, 2012 at 5:55 PM

When does the recall start?

JPeterman on December 6, 2012 at 5:56 PM

Unions can still make it a condition that one has to be part of the union to get hired. You can’t be a UPS driver anywhere without joining the Teamsters. I’m guessing closed shops will remain closed shops.

Charlemagne on December 6, 2012 at 5:58 PM

Thank you redistricting.

sentinelrules on December 6, 2012 at 5:55 PM

I’d guess the ghost town of Detroit lost a few seats. Heh.

Wethal on December 6, 2012 at 6:00 PM

Finally some good news.

steebo77 on December 6, 2012 at 6:02 PM

Not a single foreign automaker, with the exception of a Mazda plant in Flat Rock that later got bought by Ford, has ever opened a factory in Michigan even though its highly trained auto workforce, one would think, gives it a natural advantage.

Natural advantage? BMW and Toyota found out a long time ago that southern craftsmanship beats unionized sub-par labor by a country mile.

HotAirian on December 6, 2012 at 6:03 PM

I wish the PA GOP had the nerve to do this, but the teachers’ unions have scared some of them away from charter schools and vouchers, so they’re unlikely to be bold enough for this.

Wethal on December 6, 2012 at 5:52 PM

At least we got voter ID. Until the courts stopped it, anyway.

steebo77 on December 6, 2012 at 6:05 PM

OT: demint sounds real good on special report right now…

cmsinaz on December 6, 2012 at 6:07 PM

(Not a single foreign automaker, with the exception of a Mazda plant in Flat Rock that later got bought by Ford, has ever opened a factory in Michigan even though its highly trained auto workforce, one would think, gives it a natural advantage.)

More like a disadvantage hiring veteran union workers than training new workers on how production gets done in a timely manner. Not that all union members are sluggish and smoke pot and drink alcohol on their lunch break.

plutorocks on December 6, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Not a single foreign automaker, with the exception of a Mazda plant in Flat Rock that later got bought by Ford, has ever opened a factory in Michigan even though its highly trained auto workforce, one would think, gives it a natural advantage.

“Highly trained auto workforce” has to be sarcasm. Seen the Youtubes of Chrysler workers drinking beer and smoking dope on their lunch breaks? Heard about all the mattresses hidden in UAW plants?

slickwillie2001 on December 6, 2012 at 6:10 PM

This is delicious! I was born & raised in Michigan and I’m thrilled to see this.

I worked at the truck plant one summer in college. It made me WANT to go back to school in the fall.

Daisy_WI on December 6, 2012 at 6:14 PM

they lie on December 6, 2012 at 5:37 PM

please enlighten us about those halcyon days when the GOP had enough senators to produce a majority that would vote as you wish on this issue…I’m betting you’re including Snarlin’ Arlen Spector, the Maine twins and Lincol Log Chafee as allies when Trent Lott offered to share power because Jumpin’ Jim Jeffords did his thing two months into Bush’s first term.

DanMan on December 6, 2012 at 6:15 PM

Do it Michigan and start rebuilding.

I know quite a few business owning Michigandan refugees who would happily go back there even though its stupidly cold and danger-close to Canada…if you’d just fix the frickin State…

Alas they’re not Democrats.

CorporatePiggy on December 6, 2012 at 6:17 PM

its highly trained auto workforce, one would think, gives it a natural advantage.

a couple of my child hood friends ended up near Detroit when their dad got transferred up there working for Pontiac. They later went to work in the plants and told me they counted 20% absenteeism as normal.

DanMan on December 6, 2012 at 6:20 PM

they lie on December 6, 2012 at 5:37 PM

The GOP never had 60 seats in the Senate to get past a filibuster.

Wethal on December 6, 2012 at 6:22 PM

sentinelrules on December 6, 2012 at 5:55 PM

Thanks, I was wondering about the mention of the lame duck and thought maybe they wouldn’t be able to get it through in the next legislature.

Cindy Munford on December 6, 2012 at 6:26 PM

DanMan on December 6, 2012 at 6:15 PM

And we always had to worry about the Gang of 14. It was 14 wasn’t it?

Cindy Munford on December 6, 2012 at 6:27 PM

When does the recall start?

JPeterman on December 6, 2012 at 5:56 PM

Heh.

davidk on December 6, 2012 at 6:33 PM

Note to Erika…here’s an update:

The House voted 58-52 Thursday afternoon to approve the measure prohibiting most private unions from collecting fees from nonunion employees. The Senate was expected to follow later Thursday, but future votes are necessary because the versions are different.

Conservative Samizdat on December 6, 2012 at 6:33 PM

The GOP never had 60 seats in the Senate to get past a filibuster.

Wethal on December 6, 2012 at 6:22 PM

And the dems. did when they passed Obamascare? Pubs. always have an excuse. ALWAYS! They didn’t need 60 votes, Just a set of testicles. Pubs. suck! Always have and always will.

they lie on December 6, 2012 at 6:34 PM

Unions can still make it a condition that one has to be part of the union to get hired. You can’t be a UPS driver anywhere without joining the Teamsters. I’m guessing closed shops will remain closed shops.

Charlemagne on December 6, 2012 at 5:58 PM

I hired into a union shop here in IL. Not right to work. It has been four months and no one has told me to join.

There a notice up in the break room that if you need a union card see . . . or . . . .

I ain’t sayin’ a word.

davidk on December 6, 2012 at 6:36 PM

Born & raise there, myself.
My family is absolutely freaking out on FB … “all of their fears have come to pass” !!
I am THRILLED to hear this, but they are all idjit union folks, still.

Something is extremely clear.
We are ridiculed when we suggest the dire consequences of liberal policies, AND ARE ALWAYS RIGHT !
In fact a lot of cr@p comes along that we didn’t even think of.
BUT
Look at the results of right-leaning fiscal responsibility ! (Wisonsin as only one example)
NONE of their freak-out predictions happen !
Merely benefits !!

Of course, they view them as evil at work, but we KNOW it’s all good.

pambi on December 6, 2012 at 6:37 PM

michiganliberal.com is calling for NO recall because Michigan doesn’t follow a recall w/ a special election like WI does – it just moves up the Lt. Governor.

Fun Fact – Wisconsin’s teacher union owned insurance is based on Michigan’s.

Daisy_WI on December 6, 2012 at 6:37 PM

And the dems. did when they passed Obamascare? Pubs. always have an excuse. ALWAYS! They didn’t need 60 votes, Just a set of testicles. Pubs. suck! Always have and always will.

they lie on December 6, 2012 at 6:34 PM

The Dems used budget reconciliation for Obamacare, which only required 51 votes in the senate.

Wethal on December 6, 2012 at 6:38 PM

This could be classified as conservative porn.

Tater Salad on December 6, 2012 at 6:40 PM

Unions can still make it a condition that one has to be part of the union to get hired. You can’t be a UPS driver anywhere without joining the Teamsters. I’m guessing closed shops will remain closed shops.

Charlemagne on December 6, 2012 at 5:58 PM

Are you sure that’s right? You can work at UPS without joining a union.

Axe on December 6, 2012 at 6:40 PM

It should be the Republican majority and “its” lame-duck, not “their” lame-duck.

Warner Todd Huston on December 6, 2012 at 6:40 PM

DanMan on December 6, 2012 at 6:15 PM

Guess they were too chicken to do the nuclear option as proposed now by Harry Reid. Bottom line is they could have done it had they had the gonads. They are wussies. Face it.They are dem. lite. Always have been and always will be.

they lie on December 6, 2012 at 6:41 PM

Wethal on December 6, 2012 at 6:38 PM

Guess the Pubs. were too dumb to figure that one out when they had control of House, Senate, and WH. Face it, they are politically ignorant or just dem. lite. Take your choice.

they lie on December 6, 2012 at 6:44 PM

protesting in Michigan…does that mean the Capitol building in Madison is now empty of drummers and stinky people?

I doubt Michigan will go RTW (for them it is much easier to accept the periodic bail-outs “we elected Obama…bring in more bacon”).

teejk on December 6, 2012 at 6:57 PM

I don’t think it’s a right to work issue, it’s a Hudson issue. We won on Hudson against our union years ago. No one is obligated to support political donations that they object to, period, per that case.

Hudson and the SCOTUS

PattyJ on December 6, 2012 at 6:59 PM

Repubs in the state became emboldened when Prop 2, which would’ve put into the state’s constitution a ban on right to work laws and controlled wages and hours over the state legislature, failed by 16%. They’re thinking about calling this the Bob King Right to Work Law, and as an auto employee I am unable to come up with a better name for it.

8 weight on December 6, 2012 at 7:21 PM

It just passed the senate!

On to the governor!

dforston on December 6, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Great news coming our of Michigan Tonight…Now I can go tell Jimmy Oops, I mean James Hoffa “take his job and shove it”.

b1jetmech on December 6, 2012 at 8:05 PM

“Out” not our

b1jetmech on December 6, 2012 at 8:05 PM

West Michigan is very anti Union, very Conservative for that matter. Detroit is what spoils it for the rest of the state.

b1jetmech on December 6, 2012 at 8:08 PM

with exemptions for police and firefighters,

Why do Republicans always give these two groups a pass when it comes to union issues?

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 6, 2012 at 8:47 PM

Why do Republicans always give these two groups a pass when it comes to union issues?

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 6, 2012 at 8:47 PM

Because it denies the Dems the chance to run scare ads showing how 911 calls won’t be answered in time and your house will burn down. This is how the OH law got repealed in the referendhum.

The public sector unions left are those like teachers’ unions and the guys at DMV or city hall. Not very popular.

Wethal on December 6, 2012 at 9:19 PM

************ Alert *******************

Democrats have a Tantrum-Fit!!(sarc)

Michigan Senate, House pass right-to-work bills, amid protests and walkout by Democrats – @freep

1 hour ago from http://www.freep.com by editor
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8:28 PM, December 6, 2012

http://www.freep.com/article/20121206/NEWS06/121206088/democrats-michigan-house-walk-off-vote-right-to-work-republicans

canopfor on December 6, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Looks like the Mafia will be in the market for some hitmen…

Dunedainn on December 6, 2012 at 9:35 PM

Interesting note…the legislators included appropriations in the bills to make them referendum-proof.

Gov. Snyder encouraged the legislators to pass these RTW bills quickly, and has promised to sign, probably early next week. Last year he told the unions RTW wasn’t on his agenda, but he was mightily pi$$ed when the unions responded with a proposal to prevent RTW with a constitutional amendment. Their proposal went down in flames. That was all the encouragement Snyder needed. Mess with the bull…you know the rest.

Dee2008 on December 6, 2012 at 9:35 PM

**Alert **


Oops,missed this….

‘Right to work’ law passes in Michigan State House, 58-52 – @monroenews

4 hours ago from http://www.monroenews.com by editor
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Michigan House Passes First Piece Of “Right To Work” Legislation
of Thursday, December 6, 2012, 08:19 p.m
*****************************************

Huge crowds gathered in Lansing today monitor, and some cases protest, a controversial piece of legislation dubbed the “right to work” bill and officially part of House Bill 4054.

#The voting process in the House of Representatives started shortly after 4:30 p.m.; and ended about 4:45 p.m.

News reporters who are covering this out of Lansing announced a 58-52 vote via their Twitter feeds. That bill will now go to the Senate. #David Eggert, a state government reporter for the MLive newspaper network, has explained on his Twitter feed that this is one of three pieces of legislation that are expected; with the others likely to be started today but finished early next week.

#A press statement on behalf of Gov. Rick Snyder, Senate Majority Leader Randy Richardville and Speaker of the House Jase Bolger was posted earlier today on michigan.gov and includes these details:

#Gov. Rick Snyder, Senate Majority Leader Randy Richardville and Speaker of the House Jase Bolger today announced that the Legislature will move forward with legislation to enact freedom-to-work laws.

#Freedom-to-work laws will improve the lives of countless Michigan families by restoring workplace fairness and equality for all workers. In addition, the laws will attract more new jobs and new career opportunities for Michigan workers.

#”We respect the fact that the freedom-to-work issue evokes strong emotions among supporters and opponents,” said Snyder, who supports collective bargaining. “That’s why we’ve focused on other reforms that are so critical to Michigan’s turnaround. But with this issue now on the table, it’s time to embrace the benefits that come with giving working men and women the freedom they deserve. The values of freedom, fairness and equality in the workplace should unite us all. And as states fiercely compete for jobs, this legislation will ensure that investors know Michigan is the place to do business.” … #Journalists on scene are using the #rtw and #righttowork hashtags as they post updates on Twitter. The hashtags used by union supporters include #SaveMI.

#A live stream from the House of Representatives can be found at http://house.mi.gov/htv.asp
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http://www.monroenews.com/news/2012/dec/06/right-work-legislation-moving-ahead-lansing/

canopfor on December 6, 2012 at 9:39 PM

I just purchased a house in Michigan this week and will be moving from Texas by the end of the year. After 25 years, maybe my vote will finally count for something…

Peri Winkle on December 6, 2012 at 10:08 PM

I’ve lived in Michigan my entire life. This is, without a doubt, the best thing that’s happened to my state in a long, long time.

SueM on December 7, 2012 at 6:47 AM

I just purchased a house in Michigan this week and will be moving from Texas by the end of the year. After 25 years, maybe my vote will finally count for something…
Peri Winkle on December 6, 2012 at 10:08 PM

Moved here this past summer. I thought * we*were the only ones moving INTO Michigan. Welcome! It’s really a great place, such a shame the unions have done so much damage. We’ve lived all over the US and some places here, including our town, remind me of the old “Main Street USA”, well, if you can ignore the Obama voters anyway.

quiz1 on December 7, 2012 at 8:39 AM

I’ve lived in Michigan my entire life. This is, without a doubt, the best thing that’s happened to my state in a long, long time.

SueM on December 7, 2012 at 6:47 AM

Same here. Keep an ear out. I hear there are other bills that have been passed during the lame duck that we will find refreshing. Snyder has been very quietly going about the business of attracting business and though he didn’t help Romney out one bit (something that miffed me a bit, being ABO, myself) he just might come through. Detroit might be on its way to being forced into bankruptcy or being dissolved entirely. There’s something on deck about the emergency manager law as well. One thing I know, Snyder has no hidden agenda or ulterior motives; he simply wants Michigan to prosper.

totherightofthem on December 7, 2012 at 10:44 AM