Videos: Rubio, Ryan lay out vision for future of GOP

posted at 1:51 pm on December 5, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Two of the rising stars in the Republican Party combined last night to deliver a vision of the future for the GOP, and to stake their claims as leaders who can deliver it.  Paul Ryan introduced Marco Rubio at the Jack Kemp Leadership Award Dinner in Washington DC, and both men stressed the need to find ways to make conservative policies as well as principles relevant to all voters — just as Jack Kemp himself attempted to do.  CNN reported on the remarks this morning:

The Daily Caller’s Alexis Levinson reported on both speeches, and noted that Rubio got specific as well as philosophical in his approach to middle- and working class voters:

The Florida senator identified two specific problems that he said need solving: The “American economy is not creating enough jobs,” and Americans do not have the skills necessary to do many of the jobs that are available.

In the immediate future, Rubio said, Congress and the White House need to reach an agreement to avert the fiscal cliff that includes a plan to pay down the national debt, reform entitlements like Medicare, simplify the tax code and avoid raising tax rates.

High tax rates, Rubio said, would only hurt small businesses and the middle class. 

To spur economic growth, Rubio proposed decreasing “excessive regulation,” increasing domestic energy production and introducing a “predictable monetary policy.”

Rubio proposed a health care system with a Flexible Savings Account in the mold of Congress’s health plan, which “allows families to save tax free money to pay for medical bills.”

The government, Rubio said, should “expand the number of community health centers, as well as work with hospitals to find the best way to integrate them with their emergency rooms to try and get non-life threatening walk-ins to seek treatment there.”

To ensure that Americans are adequately prepared to enter the workforce, Rubio proposed “state level curriculum reform and new investment in continuing teacher training” to improve elementary and secondary schools, school choice as a means of getting kids out of failing public schools and expanded technical and vocational education.

I’ve written about the need to get specific as part of a more energetic outreach to working-class voters.  These are excellent entrées to that effort.  Matched with permanent organizational efforts in the cities that focus on issues to which those voters can relate, this can be a powerful direction for Republicans over the next several years.

Ryan called for a change of thinking in the GOP about how to approach policy as well as voters:

“Both parties tend to divide Americans into ‘our voters’ and ‘their voters,’” Ryan said. “But Republicans must steer far clear of that trap. We must speak to the aspirations and anxieties of every American.”

“I believe we can turn the engines of upward mobility back on, so that no one is left out from the promise of America,” he said.

Ryan said welfare reform in the 1990s reduced dependency and helped people “shape their own destiny.”

The problem now, Ryan said, is that instead of applying a similar model, “we’re still trying to measure compassion by how much we spend – not by how many people we help.”

That model is evidently not working, Ryan said, because “today, 46 million people are living in poverty.”

“We need a vision for bringing opportunity into every life – one that promotes strong families, secure livelihoods, and an equal chance for every American to fulfill their highest aspirations for themselves and their children.” …

The GOP, Ryan said, needs to work on better articulating its ideology.

“We have a compassionate vision based on ideas that work,” he said, “but sometimes we don’t do a good job of laying out that vision. We need to do better.”

Politico’s James Hohmann also noticed the level of detail in Rubio’s speech:

He sought instead to position himself as a substantive, detail-oriented senator, using the phrase “middle class” 34 times in a 30-minute speech packed with a laundry list of ideas to create jobs and opportunity. [Read the full text of Rubio’s speech.]

“Big government has never been able to create and sustain a vibrant and stable middle class,” he said.

Ryan focused on the very poor, used the word “poverty” 15 times in his own 20-minute speech. Rubio used it only once. [Read the full text of Ryan’s speech.]

“When Lyndon Johnson launched the War on Poverty in 1964, he predicted we would eliminate poverty in 35 to 50 years. Here we are, 48 years later, and poverty is winning,” the congressman said.

Hugh Hewitt points out the Catholic connection — and the Catholic approach from both men:

In addition to immigration reform, this Catholic log jam also suggests an emphasis on religious liberty, and not just in the U.S. but abroad and especially in places like Egypt where the emerging Islamist domination calls for the U.S. to insist on the protection of religious minorities as a condition of aid.

Mitt Romney did not win the Catholic vote in November, a consequence of the loss of three out of every four Latino Catholic votes.

Review Marco Rubio’s “fact sheet” for his speech last night. (Very wise to make this available online, btw.  Good practice pointer for future conservative speech makers.)  This is not a “social gospel” per se, but it is close to being a legislative expression of the theological values embedded in much of Catholic social teaching.

The Democrats have become fully and completely the party of big and very secular government, the GOP the party of individuals and religious faith, protected from that state.  The good news is that the GOP as the young superstars.  The bad news is the Demcorats have the purse strings.

The two men have gotten off to a good start.  Let’s see if the rest of the GOP can follow.

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She is damaged goods with zero political future. What’s your point?

That the same goes double or triple for Paul Ryan.

Sorry, people aren’t going to be force-fed any more smorgasbord of “rising GOP stars”.

ddrintn

And Palin still won’t get anywhere near the White House unless it’s a stop on her next bus tour.

xblade on December 5, 2012 at 4:28 PM

Ummmm…she’ll be there before Ryan or Rubio ever will be. And my record at prognostication is much better than yours. Of course, getting snubbed by all the purdy wimmins might have dulled your perception abilities somewhat. Hang in there, tiger.

ddrintn on December 5, 2012 at 4:36 PM

And Palin still won’t get anywhere near the White House unless it’s a stop on her next bus tour.

xblade on December 5, 2012 at 4:28 PM

Hey Sparky, Palin’s still standing, Romney not so much..:)

idesign on December 5, 2012 at 4:37 PM

Well, I think you mean upper-Midwest, but Ryan is a decent guy with some good ideas but no real record of accomplishing any sort of reform. I think I’m not alone in distrusting any list of pre-approved “rising stars” from the loser GOPe complex and its punditocracy appendages. Won’t work anymore. Sorry.

ddrintn on December 5, 2012 at 4:29 PM

Good lord, man, Ryan won over the entire House Republican caucus to pass his budget, which included an eventual end to unlimited fee-for-service Medicare. If that’s not reform I don’t know what is. He started a real national conversation about entitlements which the “establishment” didn’t want to have. It isn’t his fault that morons in Nevada and Colorado and Delaware picked idiots to run for Senate so that there was no Republican majority in the Senate to pass his budget!

Ryan also probably ended once and for all the Democrats’ traditional “Medi-scare” campaign tactic. Medicare reform will eventually happen, once Barack Obama decides it’s his idea, or we get a new President, and that will be in large part because Paul Ryan started the discussion.

I am so sick of conservatievs making the perfect the enemy of the great.

rockmom on December 5, 2012 at 4:38 PM

Ummmm…she’ll be there before Ryan or Rubio ever will be. And my record at prognostication is much better than yours. Of course, getting snubbed by all the purdy wimmins might have dulled your perception abilities somewhat. Hang in there, tiger.

ddrintn on December 5, 2012 at 4:36 PM

Good luck with that, hoss.

rockmom on December 5, 2012 at 4:39 PM

Paul Ryan is a RINO now????

rockmom

He was pretty much a RINO before.

4. Ryan probably did approve the purge of the Budget Committee, which I’m perfectly fine with. Ot was politically tone deaf for the members in question to vote against the Chairman’s pet bill, which he is using to further his political career.

Illinidiva

And that’s why the Republican party is toast. Don’t you dare put the country first by sticking to your conservative principles when I’m trying to RINO my way into a promotion.

Pathetic.

xblade on December 5, 2012 at 4:39 PM

Not from government, and that’s what Ryan and Rubio are saying. Government needs to get the hell out of the way so the private economy can grow and people can get jobs to support themselves and get out of poverty. But we can’t sell that as an immediate and exclusive solution while millions are getting government checks and are scared of losing them. There has to be some transition, which can be handled in similar ways to how we did welfare reform in the 1990s – condition federal aid on working or getting training for a real job, and end benefits after a certain time so people know they have a safety net but not a hammock.

rockmom on December 5, 2012 at 4:32 PM

We’re going to encourage people to go $30,000 or more in debt to get a $10 an hour high skill job? Does that make good sense to you? You have to sell the jobs platform while you sell the “kick them off welfare” platform, or the kind hearted won’t ever go for it. If the GOP works out the jobs platform then they’ll have a chance winning the white vote in the N and NE back. Right now off shoring your job and getting you to go into student loan hell so you can work at Starbucks ain’t cutting it.

DFCtomm on December 5, 2012 at 4:40 PM

2. If Conservatives want to win, they’d better address all of America and make your ideas to everyone.

Illinidiva on December 5, 2012 at 4:31 PM

What the hell does that mean? Paul Ryan was half of the ticket. I don’t recall his enunciating many ideas very effectively, beyond telling us how Mitt is The Perfect Man at The Perfect Moment.

ddrintn on December 5, 2012 at 4:41 PM

Not a dime to the RNC….

House Speaker John Boehner on Wednesday warned his House Republican conference against dissent from GOP leadership – and threatened retaliation similar to that against the already-purged conservatives if anyone else breaks from his pack.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/05/Boehner-threatens-more-retaliation-against-conservatism-as-GOP-leadership-s-story-keeps-changing#disqus_thread

idesign on December 5, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Two of the rising stars in the Republican Party combined last night to deliver a vision of the future for the GOP, and to stake their claims as leaders who can deliver it. Paul Ryan introduced Marco Rubio at the Jack Kemp Leadership Award Dinner in Washington DC, and both men stressed the need to find ways to make conservative policies as well as principles relevant to all voters — just as Jack Kemp himself attempted to do.


BIG GOVERNMENT conservative moderates.

NO FRIGGING THANKS.

The gop is dead dead dead to Conservatives.

PappyD61 on December 5, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Good luck with that, hoss.

rockmom on December 5, 2012 at 4:39 PM

Meh. It’s up to her. But you see, luck — and unskewed polling and blog groupthink mutual-comfort-and-delusion sessions — are what you have to rely on when you’re pimping the GOPe mannequin of the moment, that the base really doesn’t give a shit about.

Hoss.

ddrintn on December 5, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Too little, too late.

Like doing CPR on a corpse that had lain in the desert for a decade or two.

The Party of Lincoln, Goldwater and Reagan is deceased.

Both Rubio and Ryan, while differently qualified, might consider lending their efforts to building a third and fourth party in America.

It would serve better our Nation.

coldwarrior on December 5, 2012 at 2:01 PM

The gop is just the DEMOCRAT LITE party.

PappyD61 on December 5, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Not a dime to the RNC….

House Speaker John Boehner on Wednesday warned his House Republican conference against dissent from GOP leadership – and threatened retaliation similar to that against the already-purged conservatives if anyone else breaks from his pack.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/05/Boehner-threatens-more-retaliation-against-conservatism-as-GOP-leadership-s-story-keeps-changing#disqus_thread

idesign on December 5, 2012 at 4:45 PM

John Boehner and the ENTIRE gop leadership in Congress is nothing more than accomplices to President Obama and THEY SHOULD be either PURGED or Conservatives should bolt and suck it up and form a THIRD PARTY.

Stop settling for DEMOCRAT LITE……Bush and the “kinder gentler” Big government Conservative Progressives have killed the gop.

PappyD61 on December 5, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Before the war on poverty.
Poverty: People should be able to afford a place to live, clothes, food, kids go to school. If they cannot do this, then they are in poverty.
After the war on poverty:
Poverty: Anyone earning less than someone else!
Conclusion… war on language has made the war on poverty a futile effort.

A person in poverty today has 2 or more TVs, 1 or more cars, A/C, a cell phone, wears name brand shoes and lots of bling, is overweight, and everyone can send their kids to school.

astonerii on December 5, 2012 at 4:55 PM

Ed, if the GOP put up Obama to run in 2016 you would carry the water for him. Rubio and Ryan? Really? The GOP is done I hope. HotAir is a lib board now, the more RINO, the better. Pathetic.

air_up_there on December 5, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Rubio and Ryan get it..Nice speeches by both..:)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 5:03 PM

As Ronald Reagan said at the 2nd Annual
CPAC Convention on March 1, 1975,

“I am impatient with those Republicans who after the last election
rushed into print saying, “We must broaden the base of our party” – when what they meant was to fuzz up and blur even more the differences between ourselves and our opponents.

idesign on December 5, 2012 at 5:03 PM

None of these new stars have the ability to articulate Conservatism properly. Not Rubio, not Jindal, not Ryan, not West, Gingrich comes close, but no one does it like Sarah.

BetseyRoss on December 5, 2012 at 5:06 PM

Hey Sparky, Palin’s still standing, Romney not so much..:)

idesign on December 5, 2012 at 4:37 PM

Premises, premises

Your ‘logic’ is fun to watch, but it ain’t logical.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2012 at 5:07 PM

As Ronald Reagan said at the 2nd Annual
CPAC Convention on March 1, 1975,

“I am impatient with those Republicans who after the last election
rushed into print saying, “We must broaden the base of our party” – when what they meant was to fuzz up and blur even more the differences between ourselves and our opponents.

idesign on December 5, 2012 at 5:03 PM

That’s good stuff. You don’t hear that kind of talk anymore. Too afraid some MSM hack will call them racist.

Alabama Infidel on December 5, 2012 at 5:09 PM

Does this vision of the GOP’s future look like Dresden circa February 15, 1945?

besser tot als rot on December 5, 2012 at 5:09 PM

Rubio and Ryan get it..Nice (Honest Abe) speeches by both..:)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 5:03 PM

That beer is a tad strong lately :)

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2012 at 5:10 PM

That beer is a tad strong lately :)

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2012 at 5:10 PM

lolz..I like their vision of future..Getting it implemented will be the key..:)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 5:13 PM

Sorry Rubio and Ryan, you’re not cuttin’ it for me.

Bring on a warrior.

rrpjr on December 5, 2012 at 5:15 PM

Ed, if the GOP put up Obama to run in 2016 you would carry the water for him. Rubio and Ryan? Really? The GOP is done I hope. HotAir is a lib board now, the more RINO, the better. Pathetic.

air_up_there on December 5, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Hey, don’t bash Ed!

He’s just doing what he’s paid for, spinning the best he can with the RINO material he has. Hotair allows dissenting conservatives to comment plenty, so I don’t see a need to attack Ed. He’s not the problem. The Republican Party is.

sauldalinsky on December 5, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Two of the rising stars in the Republican Party …

More evidence the GOP is the party of statist establishment.

Dante on December 5, 2012 at 5:17 PM

Ummmm…she’ll be there before Ryan or Rubio ever will be. And my record at prognostication is much better than yours. Of course, getting snubbed by all the purdy wimmins might have dulled your perception abilities somewhat. Hang in there, tiger.

ddrintn

Delusional. She’d actually have to run for the job first, which will never happen. Rubio and Ryan will be running in 2016. And they both might lose in a landslide. Doesn’t change the fact that Palin’s political career is over.

Hey Sparky, Palin’s still standing, Romney not so much..:)

idesign

And that is just as dumb now as it was the first 75 times you posted it. Coming from a ‘nista though, I guess we have to consider the source, lol. Heck, at least the Paulbots candidate got in the race. But if you’re a ‘nista, sitting on the sidelines is the noble thing to do.

Neither Romney nor Palin will ever be president, so they’re pretty much standing in the same place. Romney, like him or not, took a shot. Palin…not so much. And she never will. It’s easy to avoid losing when you never get in the game. But hey, at least she’ll still be standing 30 years from now, lol.

xblade on December 5, 2012 at 5:18 PM

Republicans always trot out young conservatives like Jim Demint, Paul Ryan, and now Marco Rubio when conservatives get mad. We all know that they can only say and do what the Establishment tells them they can do.

lea on December 5, 2012 at 5:20 PM

Not a dime to the RNC….

idesign on December 5, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Yes. I’ve already notified my state RNC Chair that he should take me off his donation lists and then politely suggested that he go have knowledge with himself.

Mr. Arrogant on December 5, 2012 at 5:20 PM

Ironically the new taxes will have relatively little effect on the detested Romney uber-class, who derive most of their income from capital gains, taxed at a much lower rate. They also have access to all manner of offshore dodges. Nor will it have much impact on Silicon Valley millionaires and billionaires, or the Hollywood moguls and urban land speculators who constitute the Democratic Party’s “good rich,” and enjoy many of the same privileges as their wealthy conservative counterparts.

The people whose wallets will be drained in the new war on “the rich” are high-earning, but hardly plutocratic professionals like engineers, doctors, lawyers, small business owners and the like. Once seen as the bastion of the middle class, and exemplars of upward mobility, these people are emerging as the modern day “kulaks,” the affluent peasants ruthlessly targeted by Stalin in the early 1930s.

… there is nothing ironic here .. it’s by design.

J_Crater on December 5, 2012 at 5:24 PM

Ed, if the GOP put up Obama to run in 2016 you would carry the water for him. Rubio and Ryan? Really? The GOP is done I hope. HotAir is a lib board now, the more RINO, the better. Pathetic.

air_up_there on December 5, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Hey, don’t bash Ed!

He’s just doing what he’s paid for, spinning the best he can with the RINO material he has. Hotair allows dissenting conservatives to comment plenty, so I don’t see a need to attack Ed. He’s not the problem. The Republican Party is.

sauldalinsky on December 5, 2012 at 5:16 PM

You are right to some extent. However, it’s really disheartening when all the “talking heads” (Insanity, Limbaugh, etc., etc.) just accept the libs the GOP puts up. Romney? I still can’t get over that. At the start of the nomination process, everyone of them was telling us how pathetic he was. At the end, they were all telling us how conservative he was and we should just forget his 95% liberalness and vote for him. Forget principles, just anyone but Obama. They were one and the same. The Founding Fathers would have laughed Romney off the stage. The talking heads (Ed included) are just as culpable for us having Obama as the politicians and media we blame because they endorse these libs, not RINOs. I am done with the GOP. I will vote democrat before I vote for another one. A third party is the answer. I hope the GOP sinks into the abyss.

air_up_there on December 5, 2012 at 5:29 PM

As Ronald Reagan said at the 2nd Annual
CPAC Convention on March 1, 1975,

“I am impatient with those Republicans who after the last election
rushed into print saying, “We must broaden the base of our party” – when what they meant was to fuzz up and blur even more the differences between ourselves and our opponents.

idesign on December 5, 2012 at 5:03 PM

1975.

Might as well be 1875.

Reagan is not walking through that door, and if he did, 90% of the people here would call him a RINO and tell him to get lost.

rockmom on December 5, 2012 at 5:34 PM

Neither Romney nor Palin will ever be president, so they’re pretty much standing in the same place. Romney, like him or not, took a shot. Palin…not so much. And she never will. It’s easy to avoid losing when you never get in the game. But hey, at least she’ll still be standing 30 years from now, lol.

xblade on December 5, 2012 at 5:18 PM

ahhh yes, the all seeing, all knowing Palin Troll.

We shall see if she “gets in the game” for 2016.

But until we reach that point, feel free
to “know” what she will do.

ToddPA on December 5, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Neither Romney nor Palin will ever be president, so they’re pretty much standing in the same place. Romney, like him or not, took a shot. Palin…not so much. And she never will. It’s easy to avoid losing when you never get in the game. But hey, at least she’ll still be standing 30 years from now, lol.

xblade on December 5, 2012 at 5:18 PM

Hey Sparky, maybe you should go to Breitbart, RightScoop, or a number of other Conservative blogs to read what Palin is saying, and the support she is getting from the many comments. While Palin is taking it to the Establishment GOPe, I see Romney is bagging groceries. As Palin as said, you don’t have to have a title to make a difference. Now you can go on and on that Palin will never be President, maybe yes maybe no, but that’s not really the point. Palin is saying what needs to said, and people are listening.

idesign on December 5, 2012 at 5:36 PM

Reagan is not walking through that door, and if he did, 90% of the people here would call him a RINO and tell him to get lost.

rockmom on December 5, 2012 at 5:34 PM

Hardly…..the man had “Principles” that he stuck by.
Yes, he compromised, on some things…..but most
of those compromises were AFTER he became President
in order to get things done thru Congress, which at
that time, had both chambers controlled by the Dems.

When we hear Ryan and Rubio scolding our message,
saying we need to Modify it….sorry, Reagan did not do that.

More like 30% of the people on here would call him that.

ToddPA on December 5, 2012 at 5:39 PM

The GOP, Ryan said, needs to work on better articulating its ideology.

Ryan is parroting Barack and his own stump speeches, which obviously did not work.

Rubio, as usual, is Captain Obvious, and he never seems to have a clue. He’s like gum on the shoe – just can’t get rid of him.

MustLoveBlogs on December 5, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Wow! It didn’t take too long for the comments section of this site to be over run by riff-raff. Been nice knowin’ ya (not really). I’ll be back if/when I see a hint of sanity around here.

MJBrutus on December 5, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Delusional. She’d actually have to run for the job first, which will never happen. Rubio and Ryan will be running in 2016. And they both might lose in a landslide. Doesn’t change the fact that Palin’s political career is over.

Coming from you and that crystal ball of yours, that must mean that Palin’s running for sure in 2016.

Neither Romney nor Palin will ever be president, so they’re pretty much standing in the same place. Romney, like him or not, took a shot. Palin…not so much. And she never will. It’s easy to avoid losing when you never get in the game. But hey, at least she’ll still be standing 30 years from now, lol.

xblade on December 5, 2012 at 5:18 PM

She still has possibilities, lol. At least the base likes her and she doesn’t elicit yawns from them the way the “rising stars” do. It’s just the usual game of keep-away. One of the impulses to trash Palin from the very beginning has been that the specter of a fired-up conservative base is the one thing that the GOPe can NOT allow.

The fact is, the GOP right now is on life-support at best anyway. You can talk about your “rising stars” and who will be running in 2016 and how Palin is dead all you want. But who is more influential among conservatives right now, Palin or the “rising stars”? You know the answer to that one, thus the obsession with snarking at every mention of her name.

ddrintn on December 5, 2012 at 5:43 PM

Wow! It didn’t take too long for the comments section of this site to be over run by riff-raff. Been nice knowin’ ya (not really). I’ll be back if/when I see a hint of sanity around here.

MJBrutus on December 5, 2012 at 5:40 PM

We’re all hobbits now..:)

idesign on December 5, 2012 at 5:44 PM

Rubio and Ryan sound like any other establishment Republican. How long do you think they want to stay in the House ans Senate, by the way? These guys are lifers.

Dongemaharu on December 5, 2012 at 5:45 PM

so i guess we all agree

1. Palin’s the only viable candidate for 2016
2. paul (minutes/mile) ryuns a liar
3. roobio bring up the birther nonsense.

lets all join and take the whitehouse back:)

renalin on December 5, 2012 at 5:48 PM

Reagan is not walking through that door, and if he did, 90% of the people here would call him a RINO and tell him to get lost.

rockmom on December 5, 2012 at 5:34 PM

Are you kidding? The ‘bot-head electability experts wouldn’t allow him anywhere NEAR the door.

Wow! It didn’t take too long for the comments section of this site to be over run by riff-raff. Been nice knowin’ ya (not really). I’ll be back if/when I see a hint of sanity around here.

MJBrutus on December 5, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Riiiiight. “Sanity” as in MITTMENTUM, BABY!!!!! LANDSLIDE!!!!!!!!! It’s a wonder you still show up here anyway.

ddrintn on December 5, 2012 at 5:48 PM

I think it’s hilarious how Paul Ryan, one half of an embarrassingly ineffective ticket against the most beatable Dem incumbent in a century, and who really did nothing to help that ticket, is still talked up as a “rising star”. I seem to recall that Sarah Palin was dismissed as damaged goods with zero political future even before the votes were counted in 2008.

Sorry, people aren’t going to be force-fed any more smorgasbord of “rising GOP stars”.

ddrintn on December 5, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Yes.

cptacek on December 5, 2012 at 5:58 PM

Don’t we have ~30 Republican Governors currently running their states? Hows about we pick one of those? The good ones are bucking the Federal Government and trying to run their states in a Conservative fashion. The Reps and Senators are part of the problem. Let’s support someone whose first instinct isn’t to turn to the Feds.

cptacek on December 5, 2012 at 5:59 PM

Republicans always trot out young conservatives like Jim Demint, Paul Ryan, and now Marco Rubio when conservatives get mad. We all know that they can only say and do what the Establishment tells them they can do.

lea on December 5, 2012 at 5:20 PM

Well, sort of. What they try to do is manufacture some semblance of enthusiasm for some pre-approved, safe slate of “rising stars”, and then creating an air of inevitability around the Chosen One such as that that was installed around Romney. I just think those usual Next In Line Pre-Approved games are irrelevant now. I don’t know if Palin will ever run or not. But if the GOP is to survive, it will be taken over by the grassroots. If that doesn’t happen, there will be some national conservative party to administer the coup de grace to the GOP.

ddrintn on December 5, 2012 at 6:08 PM

YOU cannot out Santa the party of the original Santa!

PappyD61 on December 5, 2012 at 6:13 PM

Rubio said nothing. Lots of words with no future use or determinable action. Him, Ryan and Romney could all be the same person with different costumes.

astonerii on December 5, 2012 at 6:16 PM

Wow! It didn’t take too long for the comments section of this site to be over run by riff-raff. Been nice knowin’ ya (not really). I’ll be back if/when I see a hint of sanity around here.

MJBrutus on December 5, 2012 at 5:40 PM

How’s that Romney presidency working for you, MJB?

Good Solid B-Plus on December 5, 2012 at 6:17 PM

God, it’s true, “rising star” is the new “next in line.”

Dongemaharu on December 5, 2012 at 6:24 PM

HEY … MARCO, … PAUL … try this:
.

Government (programs) isn’t the solution to the problem, Government (programs) IS the problem.

.
The last politician that used that message, did pretty well.

listens2glenn on December 5, 2012 at 4:04 PM

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In an electorate that was 85% white.

In 2016, no one under the age of 50 will have ever voted for Ronald Reagan, and almost none will have any recollection of how bad things were under Jimmy Carter.

It’s time to put Reagan to bed and recognize how much this country has changed. Republicans have lost the popular vote in 5 of the last 6 elections. If you can’t deal with that, then stop bitching while the next generation of leaders in the Republican Party tries to.

rockmom on December 5, 2012 at 4:27 PM

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(.. E . . X . . P . . L . . E . . T . . I . . V . . E . .)
.
THIS STATEMENT WORKS, NO MATTER WHO THE ELECTORATE IS, period.
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Government isn’t the solution to the problem, Government IS the problem.

listens2glenn on December 5, 2012 at 6:36 PM

MJBrutus on December 5, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Romney 2016!

rrpjr on December 5, 2012 at 6:42 PM

You mean 2 RINOS vie for the future of the GOP?

Faramir on December 5, 2012 at 4:13 PM
Paul Ryan is a RINO now????

Yes, He supported Tarp.

Faramir on December 5, 2012 at 6:43 PM

Rubio and Ryan are very sharp..I hope they can get their message going..The GOP needs it..:)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 6:44 PM

Rubio is a Big Pharma supporter. He voted to remove the freedom of choice for seniors to get their medication cheaper from Canada.

Faramir on December 5, 2012 at 6:47 PM

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 6:44 PM

Gotta keep away from the punchbowl buddy. It is full of koolaid

astonerii on December 5, 2012 at 6:47 PM

astonerii on December 5, 2012 at 6:47 PM

LoLz..You need to stay away from the “nut” tree..The ground seems to be covered..:)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 6:50 PM

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 6:50 PM

The only thing you got going is that your easily manipulated brain has avoided becoming a full blown Democrat, but instead you just find the Democrat Light Republicans to your liking.

Rubio and Ryan are not beneficial to conservative goals. They will not benefit the nation as leaders. Being so easily bought by their action free rhetorical skills shows a lack of core principles, or a core principle of turning the Republican party into slightly less progressive party.

astonerii on December 5, 2012 at 6:53 PM

astonerii on December 5, 2012 at 6:53 PM

No they are not..That is what you think..You can’t back it up..:)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 6:56 PM

so i guess we all agree

1. Palin’s the only viable candidate for 2016
2. paul (minutes/mile) ryuns a liar
3. roobio bring up the birther nonsense.

lets all join and take the whitehouse back:)

renalin on December 5, 2012 at 5:48 PM

Shhh, just for you…the Powerball drawing was a few days ago. Two won it.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2012 at 6:59 PM

No they are not..That is what you think..You can’t back it up..:)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 6:56 PM

Ryan is easy.
He says one thing, does the opposite. Time and time and time again. You are fooled by him. No Child Left Behind. medicare part D. Backed Comprehensive immigration reform. Backed auto bailouts. Backed TARP. In fact, you would be hard pressed to find any progressive policy promoted by Republicans that Ryan has not voted for or backed.

But hey, he sometimes says the right thing.

astonerii on December 5, 2012 at 7:01 PM

No they are not..

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 6:56 PM

You thought Romney was a Conservative. That is what you thought.You couldn’t back it up..:)

idesign on December 5, 2012 at 7:02 PM

astonerii on December 5, 2012 at 7:01 PM

I am so glad you “true cons” are among the masses..:)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 7:05 PM

You thought Romney was a Conservative. That is what you thought.You couldn’t back it up..:)

idesign on December 5, 2012 at 7:02 PM

Sounded good to me during the campaign..Should we have voted for someone else???..Was there another choice??..:)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 7:07 PM

sign # 2023 that your a true conservative:

you hear the names roobio or ryun and start to dry heave.

renalin on December 5, 2012 at 7:09 PM

renalin on December 5, 2012 at 7:09 PM

Looks to me like they are out there in the “fight”..Do you folks really want to beat up on them??!!??..:)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 7:12 PM

Sounded good to me during the campaign..Should we have voted for someone else???..Was there another choice??..:)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 7:07 PM

So you are a liar or a propagandist?
Romney is not conservative. You think he is. You then say Rubio and Ryan are conservative. Rubio might be, his words argue he is progressive like Romney. Ryan most certainly is not conservative.

You obviously have problems figuring out reality.

astonerii on December 5, 2012 at 7:12 PM

Sounded good to me during the campaign..Should we have voted for someone else???..Was there another choice??..:)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 7:07 PM

Yes, RP and Johnson, plus the communist fat lady.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2012 at 7:13 PM

No, just Johnson and the communist fat lady.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2012 at 7:13 PM

Rubio and Ryan are very sharp

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 6:44 PM

stop! dude stop! your ruining my computer screen. hahahahahahaha. your sarcasm is withering bro.

roobio and ryun sharp? hahahahahhahaha not as sharp as you. not at all.

renalin on December 5, 2012 at 7:14 PM

sign # 2023 that your a true conservative:

you hear the names roobio or ryun and start to dry heave.

renalin on December 5, 2012 at 7:09 PM

True, but sign number xxxxxx that you are delulsional is when you solve it with SP, who’s not running.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2012 at 7:15 PM

Looks to me like they are out there in the “fight”..Do you folks really want to beat up on them??!!??..:)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 7:12 PM

They are fighting for political patronage, not conservative ideals. Ryan most certainly, Rubio still has time to prove through votes where he will go. Ryan on the other hand is an old horse already with plenty of votes to argue against him being in the fight. He is much like Ron Paul. Lots of talk, no affirmative action.

astonerii on December 5, 2012 at 7:15 PM

renalin on December 5, 2012 at 7:14 PM

They are sharp.

They’re not very conservative.

You must think harder.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2012 at 7:15 PM

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 7:12 PM

uncle same take over over half my paycheck. if roobio and ryun are fighting, its not for me. they’re in bed with the dems. or haven’t you been paying attention?

renalin on December 5, 2012 at 7:18 PM

roobio and ryun sharp? hahahahahhahaha not as sharp as you. not at all.

renalin on December 5, 2012 at 7:14 PM

You are a kook..But you know that..I assume..:)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 7:19 PM

They are sharp.

They’re not very conservative.

You must think harder.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2012 at 7:15 PM

i don’t think so.

1. rubio sided with the elites and threw the tea party overboard. great strategy if you think the gope is going to win big in 2014 and beyond.
2.ryan threw whatever cred he had when he ran with romney. now he’s latched onto the losers legacy. ouch. he compromised his priniciples. but what do you expect from a bushie anywho.

renalin on December 5, 2012 at 7:22 PM

astonerii on December 5, 2012 at 7:12 PM

Okay..Like I said..We are just lucky to have you “true cons”..:)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 7:22 PM

Looks to me like they are out there in the “fight”..Do you folks really want to beat up on them??!!??..:)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 7:12 PM

Like the fight to remove Conservatives from key committees. Two Conservatives were removed from Ryan’s budget committee and he never said a word.

idesign on December 5, 2012 at 7:23 PM

. now he’s latched onto the losers legacy. ouch. he compromised his priniciples. but what do you expect from a bushie anywho.

renalin on December 5, 2012 at 7:22 PM

My..My ..Did you forget President John McCain from 2008??..:):)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 7:24 PM

True, but sign number xxxxxx that you are delulsional is when you solve it with SP, who’s not running.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2012 at 7:15 PM

You don’t need a title to make a difference….

idesign on December 5, 2012 at 7:25 PM

idesign on December 5, 2012 at 7:23 PM

Go listen to Capt. Ed’s TEMS show today..Maybe that will help you..:)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Sounded good to me during the campaign..Should we have voted for someone else???..Was there another choice??..:)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 7:07 PM

Yes.

Dante on December 5, 2012 at 7:27 PM

. now he’s latched onto the losers legacy. ouch. he compromised his priniciples. but what do you expect from a bushie anywho.

renalin on December 5, 2012 at 7:22 PM

My..My..Remember President John McCain from 2008??..:):)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 7:29 PM

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 7:29 PM

Sorry..My bad..:)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 7:30 PM

Dante on December 5, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Sorry..I didn’t consider Gary Johnson an option..:)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 7:31 PM

My..My ..Did you forget President John McCain from 2008??..:):)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 7:24 PM

c’mon. you know better. mccain called obama a nice guy. Sarah called him “barack the wealth distributor”

prescience homey. prescience.

renalin on December 5, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Like the fight to remove Conservatives from key committees. Two Conservatives were removed from Ryan’s budget committee and he never said a word.

idesign on December 5, 2012 at 7:23 PM

all those facts. poor poor dire. his heady must be hurty.

renalin on December 5, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Go listen to Capt. Ed’s TEMS show today..Maybe that will help you..:)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 7:26 PM

I did…

Seems that Boehner wants complete control so he can “compromise” and sell us down the river.

idesign on December 5, 2012 at 7:43 PM

renalin on December 5, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Yes but Palin lost on the McCain ticket just like Ryan lost on the the Romney ticket..AHow does that hurt Ryan more??..:)

PS..I like Ryan’s message from his speech last night (ditto Rubio)..It is a plan..:)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 7:43 PM

canoodling with catfish is the gateway drug to crony capitalism

renalin on December 5, 2012 at 7:43 PM

idesign on December 5, 2012 at 7:43 PM

You totally missed it..:)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 7:44 PM

I like both Rep. Ryan and Sen. Rubio. I am not going to ignore folks who have so much potential because they aren’t perfect. No one ever will be.

Cindy Munford on December 5, 2012 at 7:50 PM

I like both Rep. Ryan and Sen. Rubio. I am not going to ignore folks who have so much potential because they aren’t perfect. No one ever will be.

Cindy Munford on December 5, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Very good point friend..:)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 7:52 PM

You totally missed it..:)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Well explain it to me Sparky, but we know you can’t. You’ll just say something snarky to avoid the discussion.

We know you too well..:)

idesign on December 5, 2012 at 7:54 PM

I like both Rep. Ryan and Sen. Rubio. I am not going to ignore folks who have so much potential because they aren’t perfect. No one ever will be.

Cindy Munford on December 5, 2012 at 7:50 PM

How about we reward people who are on the same team at least. Rubio is too new to know what he really will become. Ryan is already proven that he is a go along play along progressive.

astonerii on December 5, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Cindy Munford on December 5, 2012 at 7:50 PM

perfect? perfect? i don’t need perfect. just stay on the side of lower taxes and smaller government.

those guys haven’t in the past, and show no inclination to do so in the future.

renalin on December 5, 2012 at 7:57 PM

Thing I like best about Palin, I never worry that she goes wobbly. She’s the only conservative on the scene today who has balls. She’s willing to be blackballed by the party (no RNC invite convention) for her principles. She’s not afraid to take on the lib republican leaders.

Palin 2016, our last best hope!

Only way it doesn’t happen is if the Bushie’s, their hanger-ons, the GOP mullahs, etc… do what they did to her in the 2012 cycle. In a fair fight Palin would crush a beltway swill candidate!

Danielvito on December 5, 2012 at 7:57 PM

Sarah Palin……I’ll take the lady with the bagina…over the two guys that think they have ba11s!

KOOLAID2 on December 5, 2012 at 8:05 PM

GOP Leadership Stifles Conservatism

By Jedediah Bila

By now, you have heard the news of conservative House members–including Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI) and Rep. Tim Huelskamp (R-KS), among others–being removed from key committees by GOP leadership. On the matter, Rep. Huelskamp recently told Heritage that “It confirms in my mind the deepest suspicions of most Americans about Washington, D.C.–it’s petty, it’s vindictive, and if you have any conservative principles, you will be punished for articulating those.” He added, “It’s about blind obedience. And that does a disservice to the institution, it does a disservice to a representational system.”

Read more at..

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/gop-leadership-stifles-conservatism/

idesign on December 5, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Wow.. Ryan and Rubio are RINOs. Mmmkay. Seriously, the guy demanding major reforms to Medicare and the guy how beat Charlie Crist are RINOs. So glad the Paulians are out now.

Illinidiva on December 5, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Danielvito on December 5, 2012 at 7:57 PM

i don’t want to hear about her brother, or her dad, or bristol. no more book tours, bus trips.

Sarah will know when its time. if not 2016 then 2020. our day will come.

renalin on December 5, 2012 at 8:10 PM

idesign on December 5, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Pretty simple..Boehner did something within his power..Plus as Capt. Ed pointed out you cannot have a “renenage” that you cannot count on if you are in a compromise position (Dems have Senate and White House) with them..The Dems will not trust you..That is “shortened” but pretty close..:)

PS..You didn’t watch the show or listen..But we know that..:)

Dire Straits on December 5, 2012 at 8:14 PM

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