Huh, that’s odd: Harry Reid declines to bring a vote on Obama’s cliff plan

posted at 6:51 pm on December 5, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

On the Senate floor on Wednesday, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell offered to give Democrats a chance to go on the record and demonstrate just how serious they are about averting the fiscal cliff by proposing a vote on the package that President Obama proposed last week. Take it away, McConnell:

If the President’s proposal was made in good faith, Democrats should be eager to vote for it. So I’m surprised the Majority Leader just declined the chance for them to support it with their votes. I guess we’re left to conclude that it couldn’t even pass by a bare majority of votes, and that they’d rather take the country off the cliff than actually work out a good-faith agreement that reflects tough choices on both sides. … I think folks should know who actually wants to raise taxes on family farmers and manufacturers, and who thinks we can solve our fiscal problems without doing anything serious to our real long term liabilities. Democrats are so focused on the politics of this debate they seem to forget there’s a cost. They’re feeling so good about the election, they’ve forgotten they’ve got a duty to govern. A lot of people are going to suffer a lot if we go off this cliff. That’s why we assumed Democrats wanted to avoid it. We thought it was the perfect opportunity to do something together. Apparently we were wrong.

And Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s response to this reasonable request? How dare these Republicans ask us to vote on a bill carefully designed and touted by our party leader — it’s a stunt, I say! A stunt!

“I reserve the right to object. I just a minute ago moved to the Russia trade bill,” said Reid. “The purpose of moving to this bill is to protect American jobs. If we don’t do this legislation, we’ll lose American jobs for sure and put American companies in even worse shape than they are with Chinese and European companies. So the question is really this: are we going to get serious here and legislate or is this more of the obstruction we felt so much during this last Congress?

“The answer to that is really obvious. The answer is yes. Or are we going to continue the sort of political stunts that the Republican Leader is trying to pull today, now?”

Okay, sure: Let’s go ahead and accept Mr. Reid’s language that this is a Republican “stunt,” but it being a “stunt” isn’t why Mr. Reid objects to it — the real problem is that a vote on President Obama’s plan would expose exactly what’s really going on here. The White House insists that President Obama’s plan — to hike up all kinds of taxes and virtually eliminate the debt ceiling — is a substantive, credible, good-faith proposal, yet plenty of Democrats are conspicuously hanging back from endorsing it. Could it be that the White House really doesn’t care about compromise, avoiding the pain of the fiscal cliff, or reducing the deficit, but is actually just single-mindedly committed to their entirely reckless goal of merely hiking taxes on the wealthiest Americans — a plan that even most Congressional Democrats wouldn’t vote for?

…Oh, hey, check that out — they just admitted as much.

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Boehner needs to put the Obama proposal onto the floor of the House and let’s see who’s for and against. I bet it gets another 0-435 vote.

Tater Salad on December 5, 2012 at 9:12 PM

Harry Reid really should play the part of the creepy old dead preacher if they ever decide to remake Polergeist II.

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 5, 2012 at 9:14 PM

The GOP needs to shove his proposal so far up his……..oh well, you get the picture.

Tater Salad on December 5, 2012 at 9:14 PM

riddick on December 5, 2012 at 9:11 PM

Well, Newt got a little cocky and that isn’t allowed in Republicans.

Cindy Munford on December 5, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Harry, stop getting your magic panties all twisted

Slade73 on December 5, 2012 at 9:16 PM

WH ‘Absolutely’ Willing To Go Off ‘Fiscal Cliff’
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/white-house-absolutely-off-fiscal-cliff/story?id=17884601

Galt2009 on December 5, 2012 at 9:21 PM

lester is still an adorable gnatbrain.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2012 at 7:17 PM

so lester the professor was here.

22044 on December 5, 2012 at 9:22 PM

Brian Terry is dead.

The four of Bengazie are there still in the grave.

S.O.G. One Zero, Special Forces Sgt. Jerry Michale Shriver is MIN to this monent in time from Operations in Laos in the Vietnam War.

The commie Democrats what U.S. all on a Nation Wide Pine Ridge Reservation waiting on old dirty blankets.

But for the grace of God go any one of U.S..

Yet these old men in D.C. dance about on words and works of no meaning to any one of U.S..

APACHEWHOKNOWS on December 5, 2012 at 9:23 PM

I thought only Harry could bring stuff up for a vote in the Senate.

Cindy Munford on December 5, 2012 at 8:25 PM

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If I understand the situation correctly, the Obama budget was to be added as an amendment to the bill Reid had already brought to the floor for a vote.

News2Use on December 5, 2012 at 9:41 PM

Hmmm…It would only take 16 Republican House members to unseat Boehner from the Speaker’s position.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/05/Only-16-conservatives-necessary-to-unseat-Boehner-as-Speaker-group-says?utm_source=pulsenews&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BreitbartFeed+%28Breitbart+Feed%29

onlineanalyst on December 5, 2012 at 9:28 PM

I was just going to post that here. Glad you did!

Boehner, and leaders like him, are more of a threat to our future than Obama is. I mean that, seriously.

JellyToast on December 5, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Hmmm…It would only take 16 Republican House members to unseat Boehner from the Speaker’s position.

onlineanalyst on December 5, 2012 at 9:28 PM

Everyone should write there GOP congressmen and demand this (I’d do it, but my stupid GOP congressman lost).

besser tot als rot on December 5, 2012 at 9:49 PM

The kindergartens on both sides fiddle and the ME burns.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2012 at 9:55 PM

GOPe are too chicken to follow through with this.

But they should: “Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide.” ~ W. Churchill

davidk on December 5, 2012 at 9:59 PM

Did Harry Reid, Senate dhimmicRATic Majority leader ever offer evidence that he is not a child molester?

Rumors must be true or he would at least deny them.

davidk on December 5, 2012 at 10:02 PM

News2Use on December 5, 2012 at 9:41 PM

Ah, thanks! So I guess even if that doesn’t work Sen. McConnell could try it with anything and everything that comes to the floor. That could be fun.

Cindy Munford on December 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Boehner needs to put the Obama proposal onto the floor of the House and let’s see who’s for and against. I bet it gets another 0-435 vote.

Tater Salad on December 5, 2012 at 9:12 PM

It will get at least 200 votes. Of course, any Pubbie who does vote for it won’t be targeted by Bo(eh)ner.

Steve Eggleston on December 5, 2012 at 10:16 PM

Only thing worse than an old know nothing bull shitter like Harry Reid,,,,

Another old bull shitter like Mitch McConnell a self evident know and do nothing fence sitter.

Two to draw to uh?

APACHEWHOKNOWS on December 5, 2012 at 10:18 PM

SparkPlug on December 5, 2012 at 10:37 PM

OMG!! You make sure you do that!!!! ;-)

Scrumpy on December 5, 2012 at 10:38 PM

I fold. L.i.B.

davidk on December 5, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Oops.

Two to draw to uh?

APACHEWHOKNOWS on December 5, 2012 at 10:18 PM

I fold. L.i.B.

davidk on December 5, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Two to draw to uh?

APACHEWHOKNOWS on December 5, 2012 at 10:18 PM

I fold. L.i.B.

davidk on December 5, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Rush had a nice rant against the LiB’ers theory today, made some good points. I’m looking for articles on it but can’t find any.

slickwillie2001 on December 5, 2012 at 10:47 PM

slickwillie2001 on December 5, 2012 at 10:47 PM

I’m not entirely sold on the idea. But unless we can do something quickly, I’m afraid it is inevitable.

Best be prepared for the worst.

davidk on December 5, 2012 at 10:53 PM

Take it away, McConnell:

repeating yourself is bad enough, but what’s with the excitement about mitch mcconnell?

sesquipedalian on December 5, 2012 at 10:57 PM

lester on December 5, 2012 at 7:15 PM

I agree. Obama’s plan is a meaningless stunt.

Left Coast Right Mind on December 5, 2012 at 11:28 PM

Obama doesn’t care what he proposes. He just wants to get the GOP to cave into being his bitch so he can abuse them as much as he wants from then on… Gotta sucks to be the GOP LOSERship.

drfredc on December 6, 2012 at 12:52 AM

In defense of the anti-American pinkos…the Bill would need to originate in the House of Representatives, as a facet of “to raise revenue”.

In offense of the anti-American pinkos…Harry Reid speaks at a similar mental level as the current President.

John Kettlewell on December 6, 2012 at 2:32 AM

Geithner’s facial expressions as he talks are the oddest expressions.

He seriously looks like a guy nervously making up stories as he goes and can’t believe anyone really believes what he’s saying. Like a guy telling a tale to a child… just making it all up as he goes.. with one eye over his shoulder.

JellyToast on December 6, 2012 at 6:28 AM

This isn’t surprising at all coming from a d–khead who hasn’t passed a budget in… what… three years now?

Of course none of this matters to the sixty-five million voter majority who just flat-out don’t care how rotten the Democrats are. These sixty-five million irredeemable dumba$$es are going to blame the Republicans no mattter what, because the media tells them too and because they’re just too damn stupid to question themselves or their leaders.

This country deserves a dictatorship. Actually, I think the majority wants a dictatorship.

SAMinVA on December 6, 2012 at 7:56 AM

I don’t understand why we don’t flip things on them louder. This should be all we say – we tried to bring it for a vote. We should also advertise the democrats “war on charities.” We should be asking everywhere why the democrats are solving the cliff by waging war on charities. Why do democrats hate poor people and sick people??

americanmama on December 6, 2012 at 7:57 AM

Harry Reid makes ordinary slime balls look good by comparison.

College Prof on December 6, 2012 at 8:55 AM

Mitch, Boehner and the rest are still playing politics the same old way. There’s a new game in town and they have no clue how it’s played. Saw Ann Coulter last night arguing with Hannity and she’s all for giving in on taxes for the rich. There’s got to be something in the water in that town.

Kissmygrits on December 6, 2012 at 8:57 AM

The only problem with the idea that the GOP can show that it’s the Dems who are mostly behind the hell there is about to be paid, is…uh… this country just re-elected the most incompetent, dishonest man to hold the office since Nixon. Truth be told, that’s unfair to Nixon. He was competent.
So, lets not get too excited about the electorate figuring this out. 2008 proved this country had become ignorant. 2012 showed we’ve moved on to stupid and lazy.

Sugar Land on December 6, 2012 at 9:04 AM

On the news President Obama is already jabbering about the debt ceiling and the sequester plus the Jan 1, automatic return to pre George Bush tax rates, and the end of the payroll tax rebate.

His proposal, sweeping away Congresses power of the purse to OK any raise in the debt ceiling…was laughed off by Boehner/McConnell, but as far as I know, besides telling Mitt Romney and Bob Shieffer in a debate that the sequester was not going to happen, Obama has not addressed the cuts, where, when, how much, which programs, in detail, despite a deadline…which, the dog ate my homework, Obama, did not pony anything up for on time.

Can someone post a link for me to Obama’s sequester choices? I can’t find it, am I not identifying sequester cuts because they are not labeled that way?

The term fiscal cliff is getting too muddy to use when it applies to to many things at once. This needs to be done in the sunlight, not behind closed doors.

Fleuries on December 6, 2012 at 9:10 AM

The American people voted to be lied to by the Progressive left, and they will get their vote’s worth. I am skeptical that anything will be learned by the experience.

claudius on December 6, 2012 at 9:15 AM

The only problem with the idea that the GOP can show that it’s the Dems who are mostly behind the hell there is about to be paid, is…uh… this country just re-elected the most incompetent, dishonest man to hold the office since Nixon. Truth be told, that’s unfair to Nixon. He was competent.
So, lets not get too excited about the electorate figuring this out. 2008 proved this country had become ignorant. 2012 showed we’ve moved on to stupid and lazy.

This is the problem. An electorate that would reelect this man is hopelessly stupid & corrupt. The press will blame the GOP regardless of the circumstances. At this point the only useful option is to do nothing that would spare blue voters the consequences of their choices. Not that I expect this to lead to any kind of political ephiphany. That would require a logical application of cause-effect reasoning between decisions and outcomes. Rational, logical voters wouldn’t have voted for this clown in the first place.

SAMinVA on December 6, 2012 at 9:26 AM

If going back to the Clinton rates cause an economic disaster why isn’t Clinton blamed for it?

Wagthatdog on December 6, 2012 at 10:13 AM

The House needs to vote on it!

FreeManOtis on December 6, 2012 at 12:49 PM

That’s the best news I’ve heard all day. Reap what you sow, California.

dczombie on December 6, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Ruh roh. I posted the above comment in the wrong thread.

dczombie on December 6, 2012 at 1:45 PM

Dingy Harry knows that the Obama plan will not fly. The Democrats might be rather stupid, but I do not think they are stupid enough give up control of the purse strings to the president. The only way Obama will get control of the purse strings is treasonous acts by congress or by seizing total control of the government, and that will start a revolution.

savage24 on December 9, 2012 at 3:41 PM

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