Egypt protesters from both sides: Let’s meet at Morsi’s place today

posted at 8:01 am on December 5, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

How bad has the situation become for Egypt’s first Pharaoh in a couple of millenia?  Bad enough that his office announced today that he has snuck back into his palace, which Mohamed Morsi fled yesterday as an avalanche of protesters arrived to demand that he rescind his emergency decrees granting himself dictatorial powers.  After fleeing through the back gate, Morsi returned under cover of darkness:

An Egyptian official said the country’s president returned to his Cairo palace Wednesday, after he left it through a back gate the previous evening as tens of thousands of angry protesters besieged the complex demanding he rescind decrees granting himself sweeping powers.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media, said President Mohammed Morsi was back at work at the Ithadiya palace.

Hopefully, he’s keeping the back gate open.  CBS reports that opposition protesters plan to return to the palace again today, likely emboldened by Morsi’s departure yesterday:

Al-Arabiya reported that opposition leaders had also called on supporters to flock to the area around the presidential palace again Wednesday morning.

With that in mind, the Muslim Brotherhood is calling for counterprotesters at the palace to arrive in force today, and one opposition group called for even more opposition protesters in response:

An Egyptian leftist opposition group urged its supporters to head to the presidential palace on Wednesday in response to the Muslim Brotherhood’s call for a protest there in support of President Mohamed Mursi, a spokeswoman said.

The Popular Current, led by ex-presidential candidate Hamdeen Sabahy, said its members would back other protesters who remained outside the palace overnight to demand that Mursi cancel a decree giving him sweeping powers and halt plans for a constitutional referendum on December 15.

Yesterday’s protests were peaceful, but still a clear message to Morsi and his Muslim Brotherhood allies that they have seriously miscalculated their power grab.  CBS has this brief video interview with two protesters outside the palace:

So what is the White House saying about this popular uprising on behalf of true democracy in Egypt, after cheerleading for Morsi for more than a year? Nothing:

The White House released a short note on Tuesday downplaying rising concerns about the growing power of Islamist theocrats in Egypt.

The White House note instead played up the relatively minor issue of economic trade, even as a pro-democracy riot broke out at Egypt’s presidential palace.  …

“National Security Advisor Tom Donilon met today with Assistant to the President of Egypt for Foreign Relations and International Cooperation Dr. Essam el-Haddad,” began the press statement, which was released 7.32 p.m. EST, after the evening TV news shows had aired.

“They discussed a broad range of issues, including our bilateral economic cooperation, joint efforts to promote regional security and build on the cease-fire in Gaza, and Egypt’s democratic transition and the need to move forward with a peaceful and inclusive transition that respects the rights of all Egyptians,” the statement said.

Since Nov. 22, when Egypt’s president declared himself exempt from judicial rulings, White House spokesman Jay Carney has said little about the coup and turmoil.

When protests began in early 2011 against Mubarak, it took Obama eight days to demand that the longtime US ally remove himself from office.  It’s been 13 days for Morsi, and Obama can’t even bring himself to openly criticize Morsi’s decrees on a sustained basis, nor the White House to specifically mention them.

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He’s hankering to do the same thing….just taking notes

cmsinaz on December 5, 2012 at 8:04 AM

Great work Hillary.

forest on December 5, 2012 at 8:09 AM

When protests began in early 2011 against Mubarak, it took Obama eight days to demand that the longtime US ally remove himself from office. It’s been 13 days for Morsi, and Obama can’t even bring himself to openly criticize Morsi’s decrees on a sustained basis, nor the White House to specifically mention them.

Obviously Obama backs those who would impose sharia law on the masses.

HotAirian on December 5, 2012 at 8:11 AM

Al-Arabiya reported that opposition leaders had also called on supporters to flock to the area around the presidential palace again Wednesday morning.

With that in mind, the Muslim Brotherhood is calling for counterprotesters at the palace to arrive in force today, and one opposition group called for even more opposition protesters in response:

Rumble in Cairo. /

I wonder who Morsi was meeting with overnight?

I must say I would be surprised if the Muslim Brotherhood relents. Morsi may get replaced by another member of the Brotherhood but I don’t see them backing down, unless the army lines up behind the protesters.

sharrukin on December 5, 2012 at 8:15 AM

He’s hankering to do the same thing….just taking notes

cmsinaz on December 5, 2012 at 8:04 AM

+ 1

Starting with the 22nd amendment.

Galt2009 on December 5, 2012 at 8:16 AM

Thousands at the daily protest.How do these people survive?I did a couple of tours around Cairo and saw mostly panhandlers and scammers.Do they get paid to protest?

docflash on December 5, 2012 at 8:18 AM

Ten bucks says a US strike force is ready to bomb the protesters at a moment’s notice if Morsi’s life is in danger.

Obama can let 100 ambassadors get killed. But if a Muslim Brother Hood leader falls, everything Obama, Ayers and Dohrn built in the Middle East will come tumbling down like a house of cards.

logis on December 5, 2012 at 8:20 AM

Bad enough that his office announced today that he has snuck back into his palace,

musta forgot his toothbrush

ted c on December 5, 2012 at 8:21 AM

Arab Spring ==> Islamist Winter

freedomfirst on December 5, 2012 at 8:21 AM

Do they get paid to protest?

docflash on December 5, 2012 at 8:18 AM

Probably.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/17/astroturf-protesters-paid-to-demonstrate-in-egypt/

sharrukin on December 5, 2012 at 8:22 AM

Oooooh, this could get interesting/ugly. Think about, support, and pray for these protestors. These are liberalized normal MUSLIMS taking on Islamists in their own country. It’s the right thing to do.

Genuine on December 5, 2012 at 8:25 AM

Unfortunately, Obama: It’s what’s for dinner for four more years. Don’t worry, there’s enough to go around for all of us.

(I’m Mayor Bloomberg and I approve this diet.)

Sherman1864 on December 5, 2012 at 8:27 AM

Think about, support, and pray for these protestors. These are liberalized normal MUSLIMS taking on Islamists in their own country. It’s the right thing to do.

Genuine on December 5, 2012 at 8:25 AM

Gee, where have I heard that a dozen times before? Of course, I am sure that this time it’s really true! /

sharrukin on December 5, 2012 at 8:29 AM

Ten bucks says a US strike force is ready to bomb the protesters at a moment’s notice if Morsi’s life is in danger.
Obama can let 100 ambassadors get killed. But if a Muslim Brother Hood leader falls, everything Obama, Ayers and Dohrn built in the Middle East will come tumbling down like a house of cards.
logis on December 5, 2012 at 8:20 AM

Oh that’s solid money. I’ll take that bet. If the US bombs the protestors if it looks like they could topple or get to Morsi I owe you $10. If it comes to that and the US does nothing or sides with the liberal protestors, you owe me $10.

In writing now, logis. ;)

Genuine on December 5, 2012 at 8:29 AM

Can we get more of these Egyptians as immigrates?

They know a Power Grabber when they see one.

Electrongod on December 5, 2012 at 8:34 AM

Stupid JihadyGoons

Oh,let me guess,these are the Moderate Muslims,that
the Democrats thought they could manipulate,er,I mean
work with!!
(sarc)

canopfor on December 5, 2012 at 8:35 AM

When does the “moderation” begin????

over to you Hillary/

ted c on December 5, 2012 at 8:36 AM

Hey! How is that Arab Spring thing going? Letting your goons rape protesters doesn’t seem in keeping with the much quoted “Cairo speech” where the rat-eared wonder pretty much said that Westerners were a bunch of dummies who were mooching off the accomplishments of the same bunch of Muslim animals that are essentially killing peace in the middle east.

But keep it quiet, otherwise our media might actually report something about this story instead of speculating on whether or not Kate is about to deliver twins to the British empire.

Happy Nomad on December 5, 2012 at 8:42 AM

Arab Spring has sprung a leak.

Bitter Clinger on December 5, 2012 at 8:46 AM

The Administration just had to remove Mubarrak immediately, just had to get rid of him, even though Hosni had already announced he was stepping off the stage, and had appointed one of the few people in Egypt who could have held things together are interim president until national elections could be carried out in an orderly and peaceful manner…and without Mohhamedan Brotherhood interference.

But, no, according to Obama, Mubarak had to go, now, not tomorrow, but right this moment.

Obama created this chaos…it is entirely on him, and Samantha Power, and Valerie Jarret, and yes, on Hillary as well. But, let’s not attack them, let’s go after Obama. He told us to, remember?

National Egyptian elections could have taken place, as scheduled, in October. Mubarrak would have been long gone already. And, the Mohammedan Brotherhood would not be turning Egypt into a cesspool.

Since Obama got involved, Egypt is losing millions of dollars a day in normal tourism, and in normal trade. And, next door, in Libya…what a wonderful place that has turned out to be since Obama decided to carry out an illegal war, without provocation, in order to usher in this “Arab Spring” garbage. In Tunisia? Chaos. Yemen? Chaos. In Syria? Chaos and wholesale slaughter. In Iran? Obama turned a blind eye to the slaughter of innocents…said the US did not interfere in the internal affairs of other nations. But, Obama did interfere…in Libya, Yemen, Egypt, Honduras (just thought I’d toss that in…never forget.) and in Egypt, as well. But not Iran nor its ally, Syria.

Smart Power? Pretty eff-in stupid, I’d say.

So, when is Obama going to be held accountable for this?

The buck stops with him. He said so. He is responsible. He said so. When are we going to chase Obama from our Presidential Palace?

coldwarrior on December 5, 2012 at 8:48 AM

Oooooh, this could get interesting/ugly. Think about, support, and pray for these protestors. These are liberalized normal MUSLIMS taking on Islamists in their own country. It’s the right thing to do.

Genuine on December 5, 2012 at 8:25 AM

I don’t know, I sort of think of them the same way I think about Syria. It’s too bad they can’t both lose. What is a “liberalized normal” muslim?

Night Owl on December 5, 2012 at 8:49 AM

If the MB starts slaughtering all of the “Liberal” (Moderate) Muslims, will Scooter and Hill still support the MB?

kingsjester on December 5, 2012 at 8:55 AM

Interesting how Obama was all for dumping Mubarek in the name of democracy. Yet the guy who gets elected is now in favor of dumping democracy and Obama is silent.

Bitter Clinger on December 5, 2012 at 8:58 AM

Obama created this chaos
coldwarrior on December 5, 2012 at 8:48 AM

I had the same thoughts earlier. This administration is an entropy creating machine. All they do is “create” disorder and chaos.

Meanwhile, the admin fights a political battle (fiscal cliff) to the detriment of the entire nation. Everyone’s mistake is assuming that they want what’s best for the nation. Problem is their definition of what’s best doesn’t match that of most rational Americans.

freedomfirst on December 5, 2012 at 9:05 AM

Seems to me that Islam may be making some progress.
Events in Egypt have a ring of 1297 and the Magna Carta.

Only 700 some odd years behind now.

Jabberwock on December 5, 2012 at 9:13 AM

Looks like Morsi’s *Planet of the Apes* comment,..is being acted out,
er, Role-Played!
(sarc)

Egypt: Supporters and opponents of President Morsi throw stones at each other at presidential palace, eyewitnesses say – @EgyIndependent

21 mins ago by editor

http://www.breakingnews.com/

canopfor on December 5, 2012 at 9:17 AM

Jabberwock on December 5, 2012 at 9:13 AM

Mohammedans…making that leap into the 13th Century, boldly going where no Mohammedan has gone before.

They’d better hurry.

Heard that Mayan calendar thing, set for this month, might have something to it after all.

coldwarrior on December 5, 2012 at 9:21 AM

Egypt: Supporters and opponents of President Morsi throw stones at each other at presidential palace, eyewitnesses say – @EgyIndependent

21 mins ago by editor

http://www.breakingnews.com/

canopfor on December 5, 2012 at 9:17 AM

Time to revisit stone control.

Jabberwock on December 5, 2012 at 9:22 AM

When protests began in early 2011 against Mubarak, it took Obama eight days to demand that the longtime US ally remove himself from office. It’s been 13 days for Morsi, and Obama can’t even bring himself to openly criticize Morsi’s decrees on a sustained basis, nor the White House to specifically mention them.

Funny how the “minor” detail that Morsi was elected by Egyptians themselves gets omitted.

lester on December 5, 2012 at 9:22 AM

canopfor on December 5, 2012 at 9:17 AM

Time to revisit stone control.

Jabberwock on December 5, 2012 at 9:22 AM

Jabberwock:

Lol,ya,and un-authorized Death Penalty Public Stonings,
with-out a Protest Permit!:)

canopfor on December 5, 2012 at 9:26 AM

Funny how the “minor” detail that Morsi was elected by Egyptians themselves gets omitted.

lester on December 5, 2012 at 9:22 AM

Egyptians are not protesting that he was elected.
They are protesting that he was elected then made himself Mubarak.

Please read the whole story.

Jabberwock on December 5, 2012 at 9:29 AM

Jabberwock on December 5, 2012 at 9:29 AM

They are protesting that he was elected then made himself Mubarak Obama.

coldwarrior on December 5, 2012 at 9:50 AM

Egyptians are not protesting that he was elected.
They are protesting that he was elected then made himself Mubarak.

Please read the whole story. – Jabberwock on December 5, 2012 at 9:29 AM

He made himself the new Pharaoh …………….. er, Dictator for Life. You don’t have a democracy when you only get to vote once.

SC.Charlie on December 5, 2012 at 9:51 AM

lester on December 5, 2012 at 9:22 AM

OK, professor.

22044 on December 5, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Time to revisit stone control. – Jabberwock on December 5, 2012 at 9:22 AM

I wonder what Bob Costas thinks about all those people hacked to death in Rwanda about a decade ago? Mass murder existed long before the invention of gunpowder.

SC.Charlie on December 5, 2012 at 9:56 AM

I wonder what Bob Costas thinks about all those people hacked to death in Rwanda about a decade ago? Mass murder existed long before the invention of gunpowder.

SC.Charlie on December 5, 2012 at 9:56 AM

{ Blank Stare } – Bob Costas

Jabberwock on December 5, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Egyptians are not protesting that he was elected.
They are protesting that he was elected then made himself Mubarak.

Please read the whole story.

Jabberwock on December 5, 2012 at 9:29 AM

That’s not my point. My point is that we can tell the self-appointed dictator we supported for decades it’s time to go, but we can’t tell the voted-by-the-people Morsi to step down.

Meddling in dictator’s business is fair, meddling with a democratically elected leader’s business is… none of our business. It’s for Egyptians to decide, which they are doing.

lester on December 5, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Meanwhile, out in Cairo, the Mohammedan Brotherhood is doing what every other fascist party has done over the years…

The top three presidential candidates who were defeated by Morsi’s minions are now being accused of being part of a Zionist Plot.

Let the Reign of Terror commence.

coldwarrior on December 5, 2012 at 10:08 AM

Meddling in dictator’s business is fair, meddling with a democratically elected leader’s business is… none of our business. It’s for Egyptians to decide, which they are doing.

lester on December 5, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Pretty squishy ground you’re walking on, there.

At what point, precisely, does one become a dictator? Even one who was freely and democratically voted into office by the people now being oppressed?

Lots of dictators over the years were duly and properly elected.

coldwarrior on December 5, 2012 at 10:11 AM

Egypt protesters from both sides: Let’s meet at Morsi’s place today

…so when do we meet at the White House?

KOOLAID2 on December 5, 2012 at 10:18 AM

lester lobotomy on December 5, 2012 at 10:07 AM

KOOLAID2 on December 5, 2012 at 10:20 AM

Hitler rose to power via a more or less legitimate election. I think it’s the assumption of dictatorial power that is at issue.

tngmv on December 5, 2012 at 10:22 AM

Meddling in dictator’s business is fair, meddling with a democratically elected leader’s business is… none of our business. It’s for Egyptians to decide, which they are doing.

lester on December 5, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Somehow, you are trying to differentiate between a Dictator ( run of the mill type) and a Dictator ( once elected type ).
I fail to see the difference.

When an elected leader, anywhere in the world, changes stripes and absolves himself of any democratic responsibilities, we damn well do have a right to comment. And should do so. Emphatically.

Jabberwock on December 5, 2012 at 10:24 AM

…so when do we meet at the White House?

KOOLAID2 on December 5, 2012 at 10:18 AM

My initial thoughts as well. Thought I was being a nutjob.

freedomfirst on December 5, 2012 at 10:48 AM

Morsi is a radical and from US academia. What’s not to like for Obama? They are brothers.

PattyJ on December 5, 2012 at 10:53 AM

…so when do we meet at the White House?

KOOLAID2 on December 5, 2012 at 10:18 AM

My initial thoughts as well. Thought I was being a nutjob.

freedomfirst on December 5, 2012 at 10:48 AM

It won’t be a bipartisan event like it is in Egypt, so plan accordingly.

MelonCollie on December 5, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Somehow, you are trying to differentiate between a Dictator ( run of the mill type) and a Dictator ( once elected type ). I fail to see the difference.
Jabberwock on December 5, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Most dictators claim to be “democratically elected” these days. It’s sort of like how Communists now refer to themselves as “liberals.”

Like it says in the book 1984; these people aren’t exactly heavy into the whole honesty thing.

logis on December 5, 2012 at 11:08 AM

Should we all meet at the palace at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue..?

d1carter on December 5, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Somehow, you are trying to differentiate between a Dictator ( run of the mill type) and a Dictator ( once elected type ).
I fail to see the difference.

When an elected leader, anywhere in the world, changes stripes and absolves himself of any democratic responsibilities, we damn well do have a right to comment. And should do so. Emphatically. – Jabberwock on December 5, 2012 at 10:24 AM

A dictator is a dictator, no matter how they assume power.

SC.Charlie on December 5, 2012 at 12:02 PM

This is swell.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2012 at 12:09 PM

This is swell.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2012 at 12:09 PM

HaHa !

I am thinking these folks would like to talk to CNN’s Nic Robertson just about now.
Think he’d ask the same questions ?

Jabberwock on December 5, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Think about, support, and pray for these protestors. These are liberalized normal MUSLIMS taking on Islamists in their own country. It’s the right thing to do.

Genuine on December 5, 2012 at 8:25 AM

“Liberalized normal muslim” is an oxymoron. To be a liberal in the Western classical sense, you cannot be ANY kind of muslim. Islam is not compatible with liberalism.

Ditto ‘moderate muslim’.

slickwillie2001 on December 5, 2012 at 1:21 PM

“Liberalized normal muslim” is an oxymoron. To be a liberal in the Western classical sense, you cannot be ANY kind of muslim. Islam is not compatible with liberalism.
slickwillie2001 on December 5, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Funny though, re-defined “liberals” always seem to end up on side of the most rabid Muslims. They have some theological differences (including such niggling details as gay marriage and… everything else) but their strategy is the same: unite the world under one leader by endlessly exploiting of the tolerance and generosity of others.

Ditto ‘moderate muslim’.

Mark Stein said it best: there are lots and lots of moderate MUSLIMS; the same as there were lots and lots of moderate Nazis and Communists (i.e., the people who now perversely refer to themselves as “liberals.”)

But there is no such thing as moderate ISLAM, any more than there could ever be such a thing as moderate Naziism or moderate Communism. Any belief system that has the goal of world domination will always be an extremist theology. A few of its followers may be more energetic than others; some are operatives and others are propagandists; but they’re all rowing the same boat in the same direction.

logis on December 5, 2012 at 8:25 PM