Sportswriter says NRA the new KKK, or something

posted at 8:01 am on December 4, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Who says you have to wait for election season to get truly ignorant political commentary?  Sportswriter Jason Whitlock, who inspired Bob Costas’ rant on NBC’s Sunday Night Football that blamed guns for the murder-suicide committed by Kansas City Chiefs player Jovan Belcher, told Roland Martin that not only are guns to blame for the crimes, but that the NRA is the new KKK for defending gun rights for all Americans:

“Sports gets so much attention, and people tune out the real world, that I try to take advantage of the opportunity to talk about the real world when sports lends itself to that and try to open people’s eyes,” Whitlock said.

“You know, I did not go as far as I’d like to go because my thoughts on the NRA and America’s gun culture — I believe the NRA is the new KKK. And that the arming of so many black youths, uh, and loading up our community with drugs, and then just having an open shooting gallery, is the work of people who obviously don’t have our best interests [at heart].”

Unfortunately, we still have the old KKK with us, which is bad enough.  But equating an interest group of gun owners with a hate group, especially one with the history of the KKK, goes beyond sheer ahistorical nonsense to horrid demagoguery.  Never mind that the NRA has many gun owners of all colors and creeds, as Eric Puryear pointed out four years ago to other ignorant accusations that defending the Second Amendment was somehow racist; the supposed argument in this case is that opposing government confiscation of every firearm in America is somehow a symptom of xenophobia and hatred.

All you need is love … and the government seizure of your means of self defense.  Oooooo-kay.

Cheap and obvious demagoguery usually gets deployed for a purpose.  My column for The Week points out that while sports analysts like Whitlock and Costas heap blame on the gun and call the NRA the new KKK, they get to avoid some tough questions about one of the industries that puts bread on their own tables:

Costas’ brand of knee-jerk speculation cuts both ways. After all, Belcher played in one of the most violent mass-market sports in the world. Did that have anything to do with the crime? Deadspin reports that Belcher sustained a concussion on Nov. 18, and had been taking medication for it — all while drinking large amounts of alcohol, according to a source close to Belcher. “If you review the footage of the Cincinnati game, he took a few hits to the head directly,” an unnamed friend of Belcher’s told Deadspin‘s Isaac Rauch in a series of emails. That mixture exacerbated tensions at home, where Perkins had just returned after the couple’s separation, according to the source.

And when it comes to Belcher taking his own life… sadly, this isn’t the first time that we’ve seen an NFL player commit suicide. There have been six suicides in the past two years, in fact. The NFL has recently, and belatedly, begun taking steps to prevent long-term brain damage to its players. The changes have been a long time coming, and might not be enough. As the New York Daily News reported on Sunday, evidence shows that chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) might not come just from concussions, “but also from repeated, less spectacular blows to the head — calling into question the future of America’s most popular sport.”

Did the concussion and/or Belcher’s medication cause him to kill? That kind of speculation becomes a lot more uncomfortable for commentators and networks that rely on the NFL for ratings and ad revenue, while gun manufacturers and owners make for a much safer target — pun intended. A medical cause seems a bit more likely than just having a handgun — but plenty of players have concussions without killing themselves or others. Perhaps sports experts should stick to sports, and report honestly on the dangers players face on the field, while we all let the police and medical experts investigate crimes themselves.

While six suicides in two years may not seem like a strong correlation to violence in the NFL, consider the correlation Costas and Whitlock ask us to make to render Belcher — and perhaps the NFL — blameless for the murder-suicide:

Let’s first get the facts straight about firearms and handguns in the U.S. Estimates vary widely on the number of households with firearms, but Gallup’s survey in 2005 put it at 42 percent. With roughly 150 million households in the U.S., that means that a gun is present in roughly 63 million households. Yet the number of murders committed by firearm in 2011, according to FBI statistics, was 8,583. That represents 0.0136 percent of all firearm-owning households. Murders by handgun came to 6,220, which makes that percentage 0.0099 percent. If guns caused murders, we’d be seeing a lot more murders. More than 99 percent of Americans seem to be capable of owning guns without committing murder, which demolishes the blame-the-gun argument.

Cheap demagoguery indeed.  The problem with people killing people existed before guns, it exists with guns, and it would exist when guns are entirely absent.  That’s because the problem doesn’t lie with the gun, or the knife (over 1600 murders by knife in 2011, by the way), or the baseball bat.  It lies with the person who chooses to kill over real or imagined slights.


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Starting to get real tured of this crap….

BallisticBob on December 4, 2012 at 8:04 AM

Starting to get real tured tired of this crap…

BallisticBob on December 4, 2012 at 8:05 AM

Sportswriter says NRA the new KKK, or something
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Piffff,more like SportsNaziTrooperWriters!
(snark).

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 8:05 AM

Does Whitlock know that Sears sold Ted Williams shotguns for years?

docflash on December 4, 2012 at 8:06 AM

It is not the gun that kills. But, the finger that pulls the trigger.

An inanimate object does not function on it own. It is the movie and intent of the people holding the object that is the cause of this.

EliTheBean on December 4, 2012 at 8:07 AM

I believe the NRA is the new KKK. And that the arming of so many black youths, uh, and loading up our community with drugs, and then just having an open shooting gallery, is the work of people who obviously don’t have our best interests [at heart].” Whitlock

At least he can get a redo and start in the right place.
If he truely wants to address the issue, that is.

Jabberwock on December 4, 2012 at 8:07 AM

But what about all the black street thugs across America who have weapons that legal gun owners can’t get?

Liam on December 4, 2012 at 8:08 AM

but Gallup’s survey in 2005 put it at 42 percent

I’m sure it is closer to 47% that don’t own a gun now.

LoganSix on December 4, 2012 at 8:08 AM

But equating an interest group of gun owners with a hate group, especially one with the history of the KKK, goes beyond sheer ahistorical nonsense to horrid demagoguery.

Might one also call this hysterical idiocy?

dogsoldier on December 4, 2012 at 8:09 AM

Jason Whitlock ‏@WhitlockJason

Thanks to Bob Costas and Sunday Night Football in America for supporting my Jovan Belcher column. Appreciate it.

https://twitter.com/WhitlockJason
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In KC, it’s no time for a game

Updated Dec 3, 2012 4:00 PM ET

KANSAS CITY, Mo.
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Editor’s note: This story was written on Saturday night, and is the piece referenced by Bob Costas during NBC’s airing of Sunday Night Football.

Football is embarrassingly tone deaf.

Our current gun culture simply ensures that more and more domestic disputes will end in the ultimate tragedy, and that more convenience-store confrontations over loud music coming from a car will leave more teenage boys bloodied and dead.

In the coming days, Belcher’s actions will be analyzed through the lens of concussions and head injuries. Who knows? Maybe brain damage triggered his violent overreaction to a fight with his girlfriend. What I believe is, if he didn’t possess/own a gun, he and Kasandra Perkins would both be alive today.

That is the message I wish Chiefs players, professional athletes and all of us would focus on Sunday and moving forward. Handguns do not enhance our safety. They exacerbate our flaws, tempt us to escalate arguments, and bait us into embracing confrontation rather than avoiding it.

But we won’t. We’ll watch Sunday’s game and comfort ourselves with the false belief we’re incapable of the wickedness that exploded inside Jovan Belcher Saturday morning.(More…..)
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http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/jovan-belcher-kansas-city-chiefs-murder-suicide-tragedy-girlfriend-self-leave-orphan-daughter-why-still-playing-sunday-120112

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 8:11 AM

Maybe Whitlock has a point.

It’s a fact that Blacks are responsible for the majority of violent crime in America.

So let’s ban African Americans from owning guns.

there it is on December 4, 2012 at 8:13 AM

There have been six suicides in the past two years, in fact.

Sports writers like Costas and Whitlock stroke these guys’ egos relentlessly from the time they are in peewee until the end of their 1.6 year pro careers, and then move on to the next batch of players who will amuse them for a while.

forest on December 4, 2012 at 8:14 AM

I try to take advantage of the opportunity to talk about the real world when sports lends itself to that and try to open people’s eyes,” Whitlock said.

Gee thanks there, Philosopher.

Why do liberals ALWAYS have this attitude that everyone else is living in a fog and it’s their duty to wipe the fog away?

Bishop on December 4, 2012 at 8:15 AM

Starting to get real tured of this crap….

BallisticBob on December 4, 2012 at 8:04 AM

BallistBob:Your post is accurate….


….TURD(ED) of this crap!
—-:)

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 8:16 AM

So, according to Jason Whitlock, it is racist to allow black people to have guns. Ummm, okay?

nogooddeed on December 4, 2012 at 8:16 AM

Recently, there was a murder on a school campus involving three
people I believe. Initially, it was reported ad nauseum on the
networks. Once they found out that there was NOT a gun involved
(I believe I heard it was a sharp object of some kind), media
cover ceased.

Also, it appears that running guns and other weapons in Bengahzi
is okay, however, guns for US citizens is not.

Research Agenda 21 folks.

Amjean on December 4, 2012 at 8:17 AM

Why do liberals ALWAYS have this attitude that everyone else is living in a fog and it’s their duty to wipe the fog away?

Bishop on December 4, 2012 at 8:15 AM

Arrogance and self-presumed sanctimony.

Liam on December 4, 2012 at 8:17 AM

Here’s what folks don’t seem to understand. Despite the fact that Belcher could have killed his girlfriend and himself without a gun, it made it so much easier for him to do so. As evidenced by the the decision to use a gun. Using an instrument, from a geographic distance does so much to make the violence less intimate and therefore, easier to perform. This is why movies are filled with rapid fire machine fun murder sprees by the “heros” but rarely do we see a brutal knifing by the hero because it is intimate and significantly more intense. It is much more likely that the audience will become conflicted when its that up close and personal. Its just so obvious that if people had to kill each other with their bare hands that there would be less murder, it would be much harder for people to go through with it. No one is arguing that there would be NO murder, but there would be less.

Also legalizing drugs and ending the black market for drugs makes inner city violence go down the tubes as nearly all of it is about protecting gang territory.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:19 AM

The old KKK and Democrats were against negroes owning guns – why? The new progressives are also against the people owning guns – why? The underlying fear is lest they be used in defense from tyranny.

AH_C on December 4, 2012 at 8:20 AM

Unfortunately, we still have the old KKK with us, which is bad enough. But equating an interest group of gun owners with a hate group, especially one with the history of the KKK, goes beyond sheer ahistorical nonsense to horrid demagoguery.
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Wait a tic,isn’t the KKK History,owned by Team
Democrat Liberals!!

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 8:20 AM

Whitlock adds credence to the adage the – Opinions are like as$holes, everybody has one……

Rio Linda Refugee on December 4, 2012 at 8:22 AM

So, according to Jason Whitlock, it is racist to allow black people to have guns. Ummm, okay?

nogooddeed on December 4, 2012 at 8:16 AM

Jason does need to learn his history. The Deacons for Defense, the Panthers, Revolutionary Action Movement and other black civil rights groups advocated that inner city communities arm themselves in order to defend themselves against police brutality and violence. So my question to you is, is that conservative? And do you support black people arming themselves against the police? Do you support black people responding to “no knock” home invasions by the police with gun violence? Honestly? Because that’s where many black liberals see a racial double standard within the “pro-liberty” gun crowd. We imagine that when white conservatives say they are pro-gun, that they really mean “I am pro defending myself against black and brown criminals.” And that they have a visceral negative reaction to black people defending themselves against the police. Am I wrong?

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:24 AM

Maybe Whitlock has a point.

It’s a fact that Blacks are responsible for the majority of violent crime in America.

So let’s ban African Americans from owning guns.

there it is on December 4, 2012 at 8:13 AM

Even tongue in cheek, that comment is about as over the top as you can go.

Surprisingly stupid thing to say.

hawkdriver on December 4, 2012 at 8:24 AM

Freedom is hatred.
Tyranny is joy.
Give up!

Kenosha Kid on December 4, 2012 at 8:24 AM

Despite the fact that Belcher could have killed his girlfriend and himself without a gun, it made it so much easier for him to do so. As evidenced by the the decision to use a gun.

Counter evidence: Belcher shot the woman 9 times at close range, essentially emptying a magazine into her. That’s rage talking, rage that would have had his 6’6″ self beating her 5’7″ body to a pulp if he didn’t have a gun. It was personal.

Bishop on December 4, 2012 at 8:24 AM

We imagine that when white conservatives say they are pro-gun, that they really mean “I am pro defending myself against black and brown criminals.” And that they have a visceral negative reaction to black people defending themselves against the police. Am I wrong?

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:24 AM

What do you imagine when black conservatives say they are pro gun?

Bishop on December 4, 2012 at 8:26 AM

A lot of folks have used Nicole Brown Simpson(BTW, don’t forget Ron Goldman) as evidence that it doesn’t take a gun for a (former)NFL player to commit murder. But I think a far better example that I haven’t heard anyone bring up is the Chris Benoit double murder and suicide in 2007.

There we had an athlete who was definitely not in the right state of mind thanks to physical damage inflicted upon himself in his line of work, drug abuse, and possibly emotional problems stemming from Eddie Guerrero’s recent passing and he strangles his wife, suffocates his kid, and hangs himself. Not only were there no guns involved in those crimes, he didn’t even use a knife like Orenthal. Someone should ask Costas or Whitless how society could’ve prevented that tragedy outside of banning pro wrestling.

Doughboy on December 4, 2012 at 8:26 AM

You know what you call six violent murders in Chicago? Tuesday.

Bob Costas should be fired for latching on to this clear racist. Seriously, it is bad enough that a no-talent sports announcer decides that he can turn Sunday night football into an anti-Constitution forum. But he essentially quoted verbatim from this no-talent “journalist” that clearly hates white people. For that there should be consequences.

Happy Nomad on December 4, 2012 at 8:26 AM

Also legalizing drugs and ending the black market for drugs makes inner city violence go down the tubes as nearly all of it is about protecting gang territory.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:19 AM

I know huh, because when prohibition was repealed the Mafia folded up their operation and opened pizza and pasta joints. Dumby

Rio Linda Refugee on December 4, 2012 at 8:26 AM

THe KKK was founded to recruit democrat voters. Don’t know how that would fit in with the mission of the NRA…

tom daschle concerned on December 4, 2012 at 8:27 AM

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:19 AM

You can’t have our guns you lying idiot. The issue is settled. We have enough laws and you’ll never turn the Second Amendment.

And ten bucks says the TIS comment is by one of your many socks.

hawkdriver on December 4, 2012 at 8:27 AM

Counter evidence: Belcher shot the woman 9 times at close range, essentially emptying a magazine into her. That’s rage talking, rage that would have had his 6’6″ self beating her 5’7″ body to a pulp if he didn’t have a gun. It was personal.

Bishop on December 4, 2012 at 8:24 AM

But he chose to use a gun. Something about the gun facilitated the murder. He very well may have beaten her to death without a gun. But I suspect that it is less likely that he would have done so. We will never know.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:28 AM

Why do liberals ALWAYS have this attitude that everyone else is living in a fog and it’s their duty to wipe the fog away?

Bishop on December 4, 2012 at 8:15 AM

Bishop:

Because ProgressiveTards want to be the Paternalistic Government
that YOU PEOPLE deserve,because according to the Superiority Super
Power Smarts Left Party,they know how to run your life better than you!!:)

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 8:28 AM

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:24 AM

What do you imagine when black conservatives say they are pro gun?

Bishop on December 4, 2012 at 8:26 AM

He’s working on a reply to his own comment above.

hawkdriver on December 4, 2012 at 8:28 AM

But he chose to use a gun. Something about the gun facilitated the murder. He very well may have beaten her to death without a gun. But I suspect that it is less likely that he would have done so. We will never know.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:28 AM

Doesn’t matter. You’ll never take our guns.

hawkdriver on December 4, 2012 at 8:29 AM

Ah, so the answer to violence is to legalize drugs, and ban guns. Idiot!

tngmv on December 4, 2012 at 8:30 AM

Look, just give Costas and Whitlock and the libs what they want.

Their arguments make total sense. Young black men should not be allowed to have guns.

So all we have to do now is decide at what age we’ll let them get one. When do they stop being angry and unable to NOT shoot people? 30? 35? 60?

Give a pass for police and military… but yeah, let’s start banning young black men from possessing guns.

Done and done. Next.

Sugar Land on December 4, 2012 at 8:30 AM

Also legalizing drugs and ending the black market for drugs makes inner city violence go down the tubes as nearly all of it is about protecting gang territory.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:19 AM

Won’t argue with your first para. Would add that video games do not discourage such action.
You are dead wrong on your second para.
Legalized drugs would enhance the black market as prices would rise with taxes and regulation. Quality would probably go down as well.
Black market is a path to $ for much of the gang activity. Doubt they would give it up. Legal outlets for drugs would be under significant gang pressure.

Jabberwock on December 4, 2012 at 8:30 AM

If you missed this at Ace’s site, a guy called a sports talk show claiming he knew Belcher when he was 12 years old. Belcher used to constantly beat up his son. He called Belcher an “animal” repeatedly and said he actually had to move his entire family because of Belcher.

Exit quote: “I wish I knew where he was buried so I could go pee on his grave”

Mord on December 4, 2012 at 8:30 AM

I’m sick of this race horseshit.

tom daschle concerned on December 4, 2012 at 8:30 AM


And that the arming of so many black youths,


Need I remind Mr. Whitlock of Obama’s much vaunted Guns For Gangsters program designed to initiate an important aspect of the gun grabber agenda – registration?

Colbyjack on December 4, 2012 at 8:32 AM

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:19 AM

You again…

You never learn a thing, do you?

Since you already called me a racist, I might as well go whole-hog on you.

While Klan aren’t my cup of tea, it’s people like YOU that will end up swelling their ranks. You smug pompous self-aggrandizing liberals are the reason that people get cheesed off. You might think our growing fury is because of your imagined racism as you accuse us, but it’s really that YOU and your kind are the racists who keep trying all the time to bait us.

You’re wrong in all your assumptions and accusations, libfree.

I have studied under great college professors who were Marxist. At least they admitted it and made no bones about it. You, on the other hand, are just an annoyance. You come here to needle and do nothing more.

You see us according to Marxist racial politics of your own lame design. You don’t truly TALK to us. You presume to lecture, when you really have no bon fides among us.

In sum, if the Klan grows, it will be because of racist people like YOU. Many are tired of being considered second-class citizens in their own country, where government and many other institutions look down on us. Where else to go, than?

You blacks got your New Black Panther Party. Fair enough.

But be sure to know that, since you have that little thing, others you reject have the Klan.

All is in balance. Except for the fact you’re a liberal partisan whore.

If I had YOU for a professor, I’d dump your class.

Liam on December 4, 2012 at 8:33 AM

So, according to Jason Whitlock, it is racist to allow black people to have guns. Ummm, okay?

nogooddeed on December 4, 2012 at 8:16 AM

What really fires me up about racists like Whitlock is that the filthy bastard doesn’t put any responsibility for the “gun culture” on the inner-city (mostly black and Hispanic) gang members that indiscriminately kill one another over turf wars or other percieved slights. Hey Jason- You know what might help? A concerted effort for black males to stick around instead of collecting multiple baby mommas. Why don’t you do something about that before you stick your racist opinions out there because the other side of calling the NRA the new KKK is to point out just how much you black men have destroyed your own kind.

Happy Nomad on December 4, 2012 at 8:33 AM

But he chose to use a gun. Something about the gun facilitated the murder. He very well may have beaten her to death without a gun. But I suspect that it is less likely that he would have done so. We will never know.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:28 AM

Sure, and the guy who recently killed his mother and stepfather in his classroom using a compound bow and hunting knife proves what exactly, that there was something about the bow that facilitated the murder?

You can’t legislate away evil, every society that has ever existed has tried and it didn’t work. You want to analyze something, analyze the effect of government policy and popular culture inundating us with garbage and vapidity every hour of every day.

Bishop on December 4, 2012 at 8:35 AM

What do you imagine when black conservatives say they are pro gun?

Bishop on December 4, 2012 at 8:26 AM

I don’t tend to think on such a small percentage of the population i must confess. But there have always been some black people who align with political positions that have an anti-black logic. Cultural hegemony is a thing and not everyone can resist it.

THe KKK was founded to recruit democrat voters. Don’t know how that would fit in with the mission of the NRA…

tom daschle concerned on December 4, 2012 at 8:27 AM

Well that’s just dumb. The KKK was/is a terrorist organization founded by Confederates (its not hate, its history right southern Republicans who rock the flag) with the expressed goal of using paramilitary tactics to end what they imagined to be “Negro Rule” during Reconstruction. Their right to take up the gun against what they called an illegal and illegitimate government (sound familiar) was part of how they rationalized their systematic violence against black voters and white Republican carpetbaggers. They talked about a tyrannical and oppressive federal government suppressing the weal of real citizens to favor the “mongrel” minority. So nope, there’s certainly nothin bout the Klan that looks familiar within conservativism or the pro-gun crowd.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:35 AM

arming of so many black youths, uh, and loading up our community with drugs,

He does have a point if you take the time to read the NRA’s charter.

Article 1:

“NRA is gonna dump guns, lotsa guns, in da ghetta marked ‘Use only in case of being black’.

Not forgettin’ the drugs. NRA is also gonna flood the ghetta with enough drugs to raise up a nation of Michael Jacksons with heaters, so help us Malcolm X.”

CorporatePiggy on December 4, 2012 at 8:36 AM

Doesn’t matter. You’ll never take our guns.

hawkdriver on December 4, 2012 at 8:29 AM

μολὼν λαβέ

[molṑn labé; "Come and take them"]

Colbyjack on December 4, 2012 at 8:37 AM

I couldn’t live where I do or go into the mountains without a weapon. Well, I could but I might not come back out. Whitlock’s attitude on guns and making us all safer follows along with all the other nanny state ideas like banning salt, limiting fat and smaller sodas or we’ll all die. We should thank them for keeping us safer from each other.

Kissmygrits on December 4, 2012 at 8:37 AM

For some reason my last comment got put under moderation. I’m not re-writing it but it answers a bunch of posts.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:37 AM

For some reason my last comment got put under moderation. I’m not re-writing it but it answers a bunch of posts.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:37 AM

Hopefully permanently filed under “horseshit”

tom daschle concerned on December 4, 2012 at 8:38 AM

No one is arguing that there would be NO murder, but there would be less.
libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:19 AM

This reminds me of someone saying that there would be less crime with mandatory abortions for all black male babies. Or how about reducing the spread of AIDS by requiring that unborn babies’ sexual orientations be determined, when and if there ever is such a test, and then requiring that the gay male babies be terminated.

Let me quickly underline, highlight, bolden and italicize the fact that I would never ever ever support such things, obviously. Such actions would be inhuman and evil.

Potential for indirect improvement in an area like a crime shouldn’t necessarily be used to justify robbing of us our rights in such an extreme way and in a way that directly violates our Constitution. There are some “solutions” that should never be considered and that may actually be worse than the problems they are attempting to solve.

bluegill on December 4, 2012 at 8:39 AM

For some reason my last comment got put under moderation. I’m not re-writing it but it answers a bunch of posts.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:37 AM

More likely it is your usual crap re-packaged to defend racist bastards like Whitlock and his idea that the Constitution must be destroyed in the name of racial equality or something. Whatever the hell you said will not be missed.

Happy Nomad on December 4, 2012 at 8:40 AM

CorporatePiggy on December 4, 2012 at 8:36 AM

Showing your ignorance, it’s ‘da hood’ not ‘da ghetta’

Rio Linda Refugee on December 4, 2012 at 8:40 AM

But he chose to use a gun. Something about the gun facilitated the murder. He very well may have beaten her to death without a gun. But I suspect that it is less likely that he would have done so. We will never know.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:28 AM

Sure, and the guy who recently killed his mother and stepfather in his classroom using a compound bow and hunting knife proves what exactly, that there was something about the bow that facilitated the murder?

You can’t legislate away evil, every society that has ever existed has tried and it didn’t work. You want to analyze something, analyze the effect of government policy and popular culture inundating us with garbage and vapidity every hour of every day.

Bishop on December 4, 2012 at 8:35 AM

We can only guess what would have happened IF OJ Simpson didn’t have a gun that fateful night…

Colbyjack on December 4, 2012 at 8:41 AM

Junior Seau had retired from football. An autopsy showed no signs of brain trauma and only traces of a drug he had been prescribed for insomnia.

Blake on December 4, 2012 at 8:41 AM

Doesn’t matter. You’ll never take our guns.

hawkdriver on December 4, 2012 at 8:29 AM

The libiot would never try to take your guns. He wants somebody with the intestinal fortitude he lacks to do it.

cozmo on December 4, 2012 at 8:42 AM

The I guess the NFL is responsible for domestic violence. Same logic. Same idiots.

faol on December 4, 2012 at 8:42 AM

Enough with the race card

The boy who cried wolf…..

cmsinaz on December 4, 2012 at 8:42 AM

For some reason my last comment got put under moderation. I’m not re-writing it but it answers a bunch of posts.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:37 AM

I doubt that

Rio Linda Refugee on December 4, 2012 at 8:42 AM

All you have to do to understand the relationship between the history of the Klan and the history of the NRA is actually study the way the Klan articulated their right to commit terrorist violence against black people and white Republicans in the Reconstruction Period. The very same discourses of “liberty” of opposing federal “tyranny” can be found within early Klan writings. The whole idea of the Klan was to arm everyday former Confederates (its history not racism or something) against “Negro rule.”

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:42 AM

Perhaps all posts with the work Klan in them are being moderated?

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:43 AM


More likely it is your usual crap re-packaged to defend racist bastards like Whitlock and his idea that the Constitution must be destroyed in the name of racial equality or something. Whatever the hell you said will not be missed.

Happy Nomad on December 4, 2012 at 8:40 AM

Oh no! racist bastards like Whitlock can’t be racists because……

Why can’t they be racists libfreeordie?

Colbyjack on December 4, 2012 at 8:44 AM

Let me quickly underline, highlight, bolden and italicize the fact that I would never ever ever support such things, obviously. Such actions would be inhuman and evil.

bluegill on December 4, 2012 at 8:39 AM

Agreed and maybe forced sterilization would answer the problem instead. The fact of the matter is that there is a problem with the lack of personal accountability among many inner-city black males. They go around killing one another and racking up children by multiple mothers. Yet, for blacks like Whitlock, the problem lies with the guns and not those of his own race who create the real anti-social culture.

Happy Nomad on December 4, 2012 at 8:44 AM

I give up, if the mods are going to put my posts on moderation as an encouragement to post even less than I have been since the end of the election, then fine.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:44 AM

But he chose to use a gun. Something about the gun facilitated the murder. He very well may have beaten her to death without a gun. But I suspect that it is less likely that he would have done so. We will never know.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:28 AM

You heartless bastard!

Does it matter to you at all–does it even register in your sick little narrow-minded little head–that another black woman was murdered by yet another black man?

Where the frack are your senses?

You black liberals, and especially YOU, need to quit worrying for once about whitey an clean up what goes in your ‘black culture’.

Go lecture your own, for once.

Pffft!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Buxj7-4YLXw

Liam on December 4, 2012 at 8:44 AM

Perhaps all posts with the work Klan in them are being moderated?

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:43 AM

To heck with excuses. Tell us how you propose to disarm the country.

cozmo on December 4, 2012 at 8:44 AM

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:24 AM

You actually equate honest citizens of any race arming themselves against criminals, with inner city youths getting guns to protect themselves against police?

What planet are you really from? God you’re a moron and have entered my nightly prayers to be fired from having any contact with students. (if you’re not lying about that too)

Remind me to pass on a gigantic yawn to this unintelligent ass next time he rails against Conservatives being scary in their rhetoric.

hawkdriver on December 4, 2012 at 8:44 AM

Imagine the firestorm on the left if some Fox News talking head spewed anything like “CBC is the new anything”. A boycott for every business advertising on Fox, augmented with threats of physical violence against their headquarters – unless the talking head in question is fired and ostracized within a day – would be the least of the reactions. Now, compare that with how conservatives react. A few angry blog posts, some mild condemnations, and not a whiff of long term consequences.

Unless we start organized protest campaigns with actual, material damage for those whose tongues wag the wrong way and their financial backers, we’ll keep being pwned by every idiot with a microphone.

Archivarix on December 4, 2012 at 8:46 AM

What this really is, is a hysterical scream of “Squirrel” to prevent anyone from looking at the likely causes of this tragedy.
Drugs and alcohol.
Thug culture and the celebration of thug culture that permeates sports today. Players are overindulged wanna be gangsters. Any surprise that these things happen?

LincolntheHun on December 4, 2012 at 8:46 AM

Perhaps all posts with the work Klan in them are being moderated?

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:43 AM

I’n sure that’s it, especially since it was included in the headline.

Rio Linda Refugee on December 4, 2012 at 8:46 AM

I give up, if the mods are going to put my posts on moderation as an encouragement to post even less than I have been since the end of the election, then fine.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:44 AM

That right there is funny, and proof of your stupidity. The powers that be love it when you post your goofy crap. It riles up the natives and drives traffic.

It does show that you know nothing about guns, nothing about human character and nothing about market forces.

cozmo on December 4, 2012 at 8:47 AM

I give up, if the mods are going to put my posts on moderation as an encouragement to post even less than I have been since the end of the election, then fine.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:44 AM

You can always leave in quiet instead of whining. But you libs always whine.

I recommend HuffPo for you. There, you won;t get any arguments no matter how self-defeating you are.

Liam on December 4, 2012 at 8:47 AM

I give up, if the mods are going to put my posts on moderation as an encouragement to post even less than I have been since the end of the election, then fine.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:44 AM

pfft

You get away with murder here. Nice ego though liar.

They’d be more apt to ban you based on lying and opening up multiple accounts after being banned as DeathToMediaHacks anyway.

By the way, nice violent former screenname there. Did you really want Conservative pundits to die?

hawkdriver on December 4, 2012 at 8:47 AM

But he chose to use a gun. Something about the gun facilitated the murder. He very well may have beaten her to death without a gun. But I suspect that it is less likely that he would have done so. We will never know.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:28 AM

If memory serves me correctly, I don’t think they found bullet holes in Laci Peterson’s or her son’s bodies. Same with Caylee Anthony.

TxAnn56 on December 4, 2012 at 8:47 AM

America’s gun culture

Grow up and get used it to it. The right of gun ownership is protected by the Constitution.

petefrt on December 4, 2012 at 8:48 AM

I give up, if the mods are going to put my posts on moderation as an encouragement to post even less than I have been since the end of the election, then fine.
libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:44 AM

Sometimes particular words or phrases can automatically trigger that. It isn’t necessarily because someone is sitting by and watching and evaluating everything you submit.

bluegill on December 4, 2012 at 8:49 AM

I give up, if the mods are going to put my posts on moderation as an encouragement to post even less than I have been since the end of the election, then fine.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:44 AM

You are clearly the victim here. Perhaps someone has written a program that recognizes lefty talking points.

Rio Linda Refugee on December 4, 2012 at 8:49 AM

There are some “solutions” that should never be considered and that may actually be worse than the problems they are attempting to solve.

bluegill on December 4, 2012 at 8:39 AM

Reminds me of this.

Mord on December 4, 2012 at 8:50 AM

The I guess the NFL is responsible for domestic violence. Same logic. Same idiots.

faol on December 4, 2012 at 8:42 AM

And putting all those people in stadiums? The NFL is responsible for global warming.

And all the traffic around the stadiums? The NFL is responsible for infrastructure.

And all that NFL merchandise manufactured in China? The NFL is clearly responsible for the economic mess.

Seriously, the real problem here is that a thug and an animal was able to succeed by dint of his ability to play football. His mental and substance abuse problems were glossed over so long as he performed on 16 or so Sundays. It’s not the gun culture (as racist idiots like Whitlock and Costas claim) it is a culture that puts these animals are allowed to get away with poor life choices so long as they perform on the field. It is an indictment of the NFL but not the one that Costas is trying to avoid by making Belcher into a victim instead of the killer he really was.

Happy Nomad on December 4, 2012 at 8:50 AM

Unless we start organized protest campaigns with actual, material damage for those whose tongues wag the wrong way and their financial backers, we’ll keep being pwned by every idiot with a microphone.

Archivarix on December 4, 2012 at 8:46 AM

I am in. Have been. Down sizing Christmas buying to a present apiece and doing favor gifts instead.

Brakes on my daughters car. etc.

Shut the holiday buying glut down.

hawkdriver on December 4, 2012 at 8:50 AM

But I suspect that it is less likely that he would have done so. We will never know.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:28 AM

That fits so nicely in to your liberal thinking,/

How come it takes a thread about skin color to get you to show up?

SHARPTOOTH on December 4, 2012 at 8:51 AM

You are clearly the victim here. Perhaps someone has written a program that recognizes lefty talking points.

Rio Linda Refugee on December 4, 2012 at 8:49 AM

Of course it is a victim, a pathetic waste of human potential.

tom daschle concerned on December 4, 2012 at 8:51 AM

This same story could happen three times a week in dozens of cities but just involve people you’ve never heard of, and you know what? You’d never hear of it. Just another small item on the local police blotter.

But plug in a member of the National Felon’s League, and whoa, we’ve got ourselves an IMPORTANT ISSUE.

Galtian on December 4, 2012 at 8:52 AM

You are clearly the victim here. Perhaps someone has written a program that recognizes lefty talking points.

Rio Linda Refugee on December 4, 2012 at 8:49 AM

Anybody who proudly calls themselves a liberal is a “victim” by default. Liberals refuse to take any responsibility for their own pathetic lives. Like the rat-eared wonder in the White House, anything that goes wrong in their pathetic lives is somebody else’s fault.

Happy Nomad on December 4, 2012 at 8:53 AM

I give up, if the mods are going to put my posts on moderation as an encouragement to post even less than I have been since the end of the election, then fine.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:44 AM

Cry me a river, libfree.

While you like to claim the role of victim around here, you’re more a perpetrator. You come here to antagonize and annoy, to cause me and my fellows harm. That’s all you’re about, really.

Liam on December 4, 2012 at 8:53 AM

How come it takes a thread about skin color to get you to show up?

SHARPTOOTH on December 4, 2012 at 8:51 AM

He’s a racist race baiting hack, nothing else

Rio Linda Refugee on December 4, 2012 at 8:53 AM

I give up, if the mods are going to put my posts on moderation as an encouragement to post even less than I have been since the end of the election, then fine.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:44 AM

Great excuse for leaving a thread you’re getting your ass handed to you in over each and every comment by each and every commenter.

When do you get embarrassed with your stupity and race baiting?

hawkdriver on December 4, 2012 at 8:54 AM

I guess Ken Blanchard really is a polymath – Batpist pastor, national gun rights activist, black man (inauthentic),Klan Kleagle.

Black Man With A Gun Podcast – Ken Blanchard

CorporatePiggy on December 4, 2012 at 8:54 AM

Happy Nomad on December 4, 2012 at 8:53 AM

I know, I was mocking the dunce

Rio Linda Refugee on December 4, 2012 at 8:55 AM

That Whitlock guy sure has a low opinion of black people.

forest on December 4, 2012 at 8:55 AM

There are some “solutions” that should never be considered and that may actually be worse than the problems they are attempting to solve.
bluegill on December 4, 2012 at 8:39 AM

Reminds me of this.

Mord on December 4, 2012 at 8:50 AM

Yes!

bluegill on December 4, 2012 at 8:56 AM

But what about all the black street thugs across America who have weapons that legal gun owners can’t get?

Liam on December 4, 2012 at 8:08 AM

Of course!! How about those conservatives across American who go around shooting defenseless black kids in their cars for playing loud music?

HotAirLib on December 4, 2012 at 8:56 AM

Bishop on December 4, 2012 at 8:24 AM

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But he chose to use a gun. Something about the gun facilitated the murder. He very well may have beaten her to death without a gun. But I suspect that it is less likely that he would have done so. We will never know.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:28 AM

.
Why didn’t she pull her gun, and fire back?

There’s something about a handgun, that facilitates self-defense.

Against multiple attackers, I might add.

listens2glenn on December 4, 2012 at 8:56 AM

Liberals. The day you seriously try to take the guns in this country is the day things will change forever.

Conservative gun owners, fight every attempt. They know they can only do it incrementally.

hawkdriver on December 4, 2012 at 8:57 AM

I give up, if the mods are going to put my posts on moderation as an encouragement to post even less than I have been since the end of the election, then fine.

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:44 AM

That’s a shame. You’re a wealth of knowledge.

Where else can we get posts were you proudly claim to hate Israel and exclaim that all Cubans are racist?

Some ghetto gutter?

sentinelrules on December 4, 2012 at 8:57 AM

Liberal Logic: The government should take away the citizens guns then make everyone behave the way we want.

No thanks.

southsideironworks on December 4, 2012 at 8:57 AM


libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:24 AM

You actually equate honest citizens of any race arming themselves against criminals, with inner city youths getting guns to protect themselves against police?

What planet are you really from? God you’re a moron and have entered my nightly prayers to be fired from having any contact with students. (if you’re not lying about that too)

Remind me to pass on a gigantic yawn to this unintelligent ass next time he rails against Conservatives being scary in their rhetoric.

hawkdriver on December 4, 2012 at 8:44 AM

Yes, but let’s examine the issue for the perspective of libfree – to them the world is unjust in the first place – given the plain fact that all those ‘Yutes’ at one point had ‘their fair share’ of wealth and those evvvvvviiiiilll rich people took it from them.

So in libfree’ s “mind”, all those ‘Yutes’ are perfectly justified in arming themselves in order to take back what is ‘rightfully’ theirs in the first place…

And.. It’s entirely Racist and Unjust for those citizens to resist this “Redistribution”.

Ain’t that right libfree?

Colbyjack on December 4, 2012 at 8:57 AM

Of course!! How about those conservatives across American who go around shooting defenseless black kids in their cars for playing loud music?

HotAirLib on December 4, 2012 at 8:56 AM

Of course, those 7 blacks killed in Chicago over the weekend were killed by Whitey.

sentinelrules on December 4, 2012 at 8:58 AM

libfreeordie on December 4, 2012 at 8:24 AM

so are you going to do on this thread LIKE YOU ALWAYS DO…babble on like the blatant bigot you are…and when you have to quit babbling…like in the San Bernardino thread of yesterday (everyone should review turdfree’s work on that thread)…because you have to answer pertinent questions of real revelance…. instead of babbling your bullsh!t opinion pieces…disappear as you always do?…Pull your own finger!

KOOLAID2 on December 4, 2012 at 8:58 AM

Of course!! How about those conservatives across American who go around shooting defenseless black kids in their cars for playing loud music?

HotAirLib on December 4, 2012 at 8:56 AM

How ’bout making up even stupider stuff next time.

cozmo on December 4, 2012 at 8:59 AM

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