Obama administration dials up Taliban, gets no answer

posted at 1:01 pm on December 4, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Are we surprised?  The Washington Post reports that the White House wants to restart negotiations with the Taliban for a peace deal in Afghanistan, and with a new if uneasy rapprochement with Pakistan, the time might seem ripe.  The Taliban, however, see the timing somewhat differently:

The Obama administration has launched a post-election push to restart moribund peace talks with the Taliban, despite resistance from the U.S. military, mixed signals from Pakistan and outright refusal by the militants themselves, according to U.S. officials.

Senior White House and State Department officials reiterated the administration’s negotiating position — including its willingness to exchange prisoners with the Taliban — to a reluctant Defense Department at a meeting of national security deputies two weeks ago. …

Relations with Pakistan have slowly improved this year, capped by a hard-won deal to reopen transit points from Pakistan for the resupply of U.S. forces in Afghanistan. Both sides have emphasized improvements in counterterrorism coordination, while tacitly ignoring Pakistan’s demand for a stop to U.S. drone strikes in Pakistani territory.

But many in the U.S. military’s command headquarters in Afghanistan remain doubtful of Pakistan’s willingness to use its relationship with the Taliban to help forge a political solution to the war and are reluctant to include Pakistan in any of their planning for the drawdown of U.S. combat forces or for a follow-on military presence after 2014.

As a result, an administration official said, Pakistan has been getting an inconsistent message about how serious the administration is about peace talks and a long-term U.S. military presence in Afghanistan of up to 10,000 troops.

Why wouldn’t the Taliban take us seriously?  Perhaps because we’ve loudly and repeatedly pledged to leave Afghanistan, at least as a potent fighting force, no matter what by the middle of 2014.  The Taliban have fought NATO for eleven years after the US demolished their tyrannical and al-Qaeda-supported government after the 9/11 attacks.  Now they see only two more fighting seasons left between now and the end of American leverage in peace talks.

Why should they sit down and talk under those circumstances?  They would have to agree to recognize the democratic institutions that the US and NATO have propped up for the last decade, as well as the authority of the native security forces that would protect it as the US and NATO leave.  Furthermore, they would also have to accept a US presence in force of 10,000 infidel soldiers.

The Obama administration is right to seek a negotiated end to the war.  Unlike in Iraq, this is a tribal conflict between Pashtuns and everyone else, and all of the tribes of Afghanistan will need to find a way to live with each other for the long run.  However, the US took itself out of position to broker such an agreement with its unilateral timetable for withdrawal.  The Taliban don’t need negotiations; all they need is patience.  They have that in abundance, and Americans lost their patience for this war over the last few years.  The only hope left is that the security forces we’ve trained will be strong enough without us to allow Hamid Karzai to force the Pashtuns to accept a settlement and power sharing along democratic lines.  We are increasingly irrelevant to that outcome.


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The people in power in North Korea must simply have no hearts. How can anyone enjoy life knowing that it is at the expense of causing millions of people to live miserable, horrible lives? What kind of mentality do these people have?

Rogervzv on May 19, 2013 at 11:08 AM

North Korea: It’s hard to compete in the news cycle with this IRS stuff.

Oil Can on May 19, 2013 at 11:12 AM

Shouldn`t we be shooting these down? You know, for target practice?

ThePrez on May 19, 2013 at 11:14 AM

You know all those heart-wrenching commercials with the starving children and the admonishment “How can you not do something?” How does the rest of the world stand by and let North Korea do this to its people? Especially those countries that enable North Korea?

AZfederalist on May 19, 2013 at 11:16 AM

Thankfully we don’t have an embassy there or Bark would have to arrange for it to be overrun and destroyed.

Bishop on May 19, 2013 at 11:22 AM

They may not have the numbers or the resources (or even the strength) to mount an armed revolt,

No revolution in all of human history has ever been launched by desperation or starvation or even the most ghastly levels of human suffering. Revolution begins with hope, and hope alone.
If the desperate people of North Korea had even the slightest hope of freeing themselves from this Gulag of a country, they would long ago have done so. The problem for the people of North Korea is not the government of North Korea, it’s all the governments and leaders around them who mumble and dither in their rancid worship of “stability” while they do nothing to stop the ongoing atrocity.
As long as no one will stand up and declare “Enough!” as Reagan did with the Soviet Union, then the horror of these desperate peoples’ lives will continue to play out, year after year.
As Einstein once said, there are always bad people in this world, but the real evil is in those who know and just sit and watch in cowered silence.

Lew on May 19, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Boomarang reusable rockets.

Whodathunkit?

unclesmrgol on May 19, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Visual Metaphor of the day…

Drudge has Air Force 1 stuck on a runway in a fog.

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 11:54 AM

“North Korea fired a short-range missile as it did yesterday into its east sea in the afternoon”

Take that, water!!

fogw on May 19, 2013 at 11:55 AM

I expect KGB IRS audits of NK’s Chubby to start post haste…

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 11:56 AM

How can anyone enjoy life knowing that it is at the expense of causing millions of people to live miserable, horrible lives? What kind of mentality do these people have?

Rogervzv on May 19, 2013 at 11:08 AM

Narcissistic.

Like Obama.

fogw on May 19, 2013 at 11:58 AM

You know all those heart-wrenching commercials with the starving children and the admonishment “How can you not do something?” How does the rest of the world stand by and let North Korea do this to its people? Especially those countries that enable North Korea?

AZfederalist on May 19, 2013 at 11:16 AM

Yeah..and all the celebrities that pick a cause and care sooooo much about some people/places..
Mum on selective places.
The Freak show Rodman..”I love him” visit.
They will go on and on about the poor, hungry,diseased,oppressed,women,gays in some countries and crickets on others.
I find the hypocrisy and selective heart break enough to hurl.
The 80′s…Do they know it’s Christmas Time, We are the World…yeah right.

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 12:04 PM

How can anyone enjoy life knowing that it is at the expense of causing millions of people to live miserable, horrible lives? What kind of mentality do these people have?

Rogervzv on May 19, 2013 at 11:08 AM

.
It’s a dark spirit, devoid of any light, life, or love.

listens2glenn on May 19, 2013 at 12:06 PM

US Diplomacy is in the very best of hands…

Gotta see it to believe it…

Your Tax Dollars at Work… US Embassy Produces ‘Gangnam Style’ Video to Push Visas
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/05/your-tax-dollars-at-work-us-embassy-produces-gangnam-style-video-to-push-visas/

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 12:10 PM

The people in power in North Korea must simply have no hearts. How can anyone enjoy life knowing that it is at the expense of causing millions of people to live miserable, horrible lives? What kind of mentality do these people have?

Rogervzv on May 19, 2013 at 11:08 AM

From the minuet they are born..the molding begins.
No conscious. Jet black hearts crafted.
Raise evil..you most likely will get it.

When I see that pic of him..young, fat maggot..in power..it is beyond disgusting.

bazil9 on May 19, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Now, now, guys, it’s just a cultural thing. Mustn’t judge.

OldEnglish on May 19, 2013 at 12:35 PM

Dear God… they have a 12 year old leading an army of the damned, and Hell bent on having his tantrum soothed..

and completely clueless at the nuclear fire he can bring down on his own country, not that a million deaths would bother this jackal..

My training on a nuclear hit was fairly graphic..

had to be, SAC always operated on a war time tempo, always on a hair trigger. Without giving away too much 30 year old out dated intel,, People at the point of detonation, literately vaporize,.. hundreds of meters out, the intense heat flash and radiation char flesh, melt eyes, reduce limbs to crumbling stumps. Beyond that point, thousands of meters out, flash burns flake your skin off, permanent blindness as your eyes` boil.. but that isn’t the end of it, at the speed of sound, the blast wave rolls out, obliterating everything in it’s` path but the most hardened structures, which have already become crematoriums..

Buildings blown apart by the shock wave, by the air pressure extremes.. the tiniest grains of sand are hurled with the force of a rifle bullet.. a mile or more further out, still heat flash blast damage, depending on the tonnage of the detonation,.. atomic, probably in the kilotons range.. begins to peter out..

then the all consuming dust, a thick black cloud of ash, soot, human remains and building materials, all saturated with the high levels of alpha beta and gamma radiation.. all deadly, you breathe it, drink it, absorb it through the mucus membranes of your eyes and lips..

and this is what that inbred moron plays with?

and the world China included, tries to tolerate humor him?

what happens when that is not enough anymore?

You either kill a rat, or leave it be, as my long time hero once said.. you can’t deal with him, the rules never stop changing, the demands ever growing.. I won’t pretend to know the answer, but we cannot keep going on like this with a snake like him.

best maybe if we pay two of his generals to just push his head under the bath water.. and hope we picked two sane ones..

mark81150 on May 19, 2013 at 12:54 PM

Take that, water!!

fogw on May 19, 2013 at 11:55 AM

It’s BHO’s most diabolic plan yet, stop the rise of the seas with NKOR missiles!

What? It won’t work? Irrelevant!

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on May 19, 2013 at 4:43 PM