Conservative purge in the House Republican caucus?

posted at 9:41 am on December 4, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Has John Boehner decided to crack down on dissent within the House caucus?  Roll Call’s Jonathan Strong reports on a reshuffle of the committee-assignment deck that leaves a few conservatives without a hand in the coming fiscal-cliff fight:

Speaker John A. Boehner initiated today a small purge of rebellious Republicans — mostly conservatives — from prominent committees; it’s the latest instance of the Ohio Republican’s clamping down on his fractious conference.

The decisions were made by the GOP Steering Committee at a Monday meeting, which reviewed a spreadsheet listing each GOP lawmaker and how often he or she had voted with leadership, three sources said.

Reps. David Schweikert of Arizona and Walter Jones of North Carolina were booted from the Financial Services Committee. Reps. Justin Amash of Michigan and Tim Huelskamp of Kansas were removed from the Budget Committee.

According to a source, Schweikert was told that he was ousted in part because his “votes were not in lockstep with leadership.”

The correlation to dissent may not cover the reshuffle entire, Strong reports.  For instance, Schweikart’s problem might be less his votes and more in the way he campaigned against Ben Quayle:

Schweikert defeated Rep. Ben Quayle in a contentious GOP primary and was not regarded as leadership’s first choice in that race. Schweikert’s tactics in the rough-and-tumble primary, according to several sources, rubbed leaders the wrong way.

A GOP lobbyist emailed about the Schweikert situation, “Wow. Don’t F w Jeb.” The reference was apparently to incoming Financial Services Chairman Jeb Hensarling of Texas, the departing GOP Conference chairman.

When analyzing assignment changes, don’t entirely discount the personal over the political.  The fiscal cliff could be coincidental to this, as this is the normal time for reassessing committee assignments for the upcoming session of Congress.  These committee spots are given out for many reasons, and policy fealty is only one of them.  Anyone who has seen politics up close at any level learns quickly that the systems are set up to reward and punish based on the whims of those elected to leadership.

That’s why Nancy Pelosi was so eager to retain her leadership of the House Democratic Caucus.  It’s also why her decision prompted no rebellion among those whom she had either appointed or protected to get into leadership along with her.

However, the changes certainly appear to prepare Boehner to deliver on any agreement he makes with Harry Reid and Barack Obama.  That came up as an issue in the summer of 2011, when a back-bench revolt began to look likely as details of the “grand bargain” got leaked during the final days of the debt-limit crisis.  It signals that Boehner wants to have a carte blanche on negotiations this time around, and that his leadership appears ready to give it to him.


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Great idea…let’s put some more spineless cowards in higher positions…

PatriotRider on December 4, 2012 at 9:45 AM

Time to boot Boehner. Looks like he’s just trying to get a rubber stamp for whatever horrible deal he’s going to agree to.

changer1701 on December 4, 2012 at 9:46 AM

No big deal. The Pubs haven’t represented a Conservative like me for twenty years.

I won’t be surprised if the Dems and Pubs become one loose party in the next four years.

Liam on December 4, 2012 at 9:46 AM

Speaker John A. Boehner initiated today a small purge of rebellious Republicans — mostly conservatives — from prominent committees; it’s the latest instance of the Ohio Republican’s clamping down on his fractious conference.

However, the changes certainly appear to prepare Boehner to deliver on any agreement he makes with Harry Reid and Barack Obama.

So if anyone had any illusions that Boehner might not cave in to Obama and start weeping, this answers that questions.

The GOP is in the process of getting ready to hold hands with Obama.

sharrukin on December 4, 2012 at 9:47 AM

What is the difference between oba-mao and the weeper of the house?

ultracon on December 4, 2012 at 9:48 AM

Mommy, is it alright if me and my friends make a third party?

GhoulAid on December 4, 2012 at 9:48 AM

Wow. How’s this for proof that the Republicans are just wimpy Democrats?
I can’t stand John Boehner.
Thia will not end well for the right.

ORconservative on December 4, 2012 at 9:50 AM

That is the last straw. I’m resigning from the party.

FU2 GOP.

Joe Mama on December 4, 2012 at 9:51 AM

Pubs don’t want us Conservatives? Fine. We neither want nor need you; we’ll make our own way. It is our way and our nature.

We Conservatives don’t need the Republican Party to define us, because we are of independent minds. It’s not like the Beltway Establishment Pubs offer us something on which to hold.

We don’t need them. And, at this point, it’s safe to say we don’t want them.

Liam on December 4, 2012 at 9:51 AM

GhoulAid on December 4, 2012 at 9:48 AM

Mommy, is it alright if me and my friends make a third party?

Yes.

evilned on December 4, 2012 at 9:52 AM

Not sure it’s a cave, but it is about trying to herd the cats effectively.

LincolntheHun on December 4, 2012 at 9:53 AM

term limits.

maineconservative on December 4, 2012 at 9:53 AM

That is the last straw. I’m resigning from the party.

Joe Mama on December 4, 2012 at 9:51 AM

Welcome to the club. I am done with these scumbags. If we needed any clearer sign that they didn’t pay attention to the actual election results, this is it.

Doomberg on December 4, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Squishy gop unite!

cmsinaz on December 4, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Not sure it’s a cave, but it is about trying to herd the cats effectively.

LincolntheHun on December 4, 2012 at 9:53 AM

Problem is, cats can’t be herded.

Liam on December 4, 2012 at 9:54 AM

BOEHNER MUST GO. And any collaborationist big government RINO’s.

Is there a procedure for the party to remove the sitting Speaker and replace him? If so, is there someone with the stones enough to challenge him and those in poser? And if that is the case, are there enough conservatives willing to vote him out, NOW?!

Either this party changes or I am done with it. THIRD PARTY.

Rixon on December 4, 2012 at 9:55 AM

Wow! I’m done with them for now. Jeb Hensarling wilted like a flower in winter when it came to fighting for conservative principals a few months before the sequestration vote. There is video of him, Pete Olson and Randy Neugebauer from about April of 2011 talking about not holding the budget hostage and how budget cuts could be made automatic on many programs before the debt ceiling needed to be considered.

Lo and behold a few months later you could not find these guys anywhere in Texas to discuss Obama’s tactic of threatening to with hold SS payments if he didn’t get his debt ceiling raise. Our Texas delegation is nothing more than our old dems from the 1980′s.

Tea Party 2 forming soon.

DanMan on December 4, 2012 at 9:55 AM

John “Cry Baby” Boehner seems to have more passion for fighting conservatives than the president. It’s gonna be a long 4 years with this guy at the healm unless he starts to get his act together.

TruLevinian on December 4, 2012 at 9:57 AM

John “Cry Baby” Boehner seems to have more passion for fighting conservatives than the president. It’s gonna be a long 4 years with this guy at the healm unless he starts to get his act together.

TruLevinian on December 4, 2012 at 9:57 AM

At this point the Republicans are essentially a “me too!” version of the Democrats. They are useless as a vehicle to fight socialism, because most of them are socialists themselves.

Doomberg on December 4, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Wow. How’s this for proof that the Republicans are just wimpy Democrats?
I can’t stand John Boehner.
Thia will not end well for the right.

ORconservative on December 4, 2012 at 9:50 AM

No. This will not end well for the nation.

Washington Nearsider on December 4, 2012 at 10:01 AM

Man, it so feels like the 70′s again with the GOP.

roy_batty on December 4, 2012 at 10:03 AM

The GOP will not change. BONEHEAD WILL NEVER GROW A SPINE, NOR GET HIS ACT TOGETHER. ARE YOU ALL ON CRACK? DID YOU HAVE A BRAIN TUMOR FOR BREAKFAST? WAKE THE F-CK UP ALREADY. JESUS H CHRIST, YOU ARE ALL STUPID!

GhoulAid on December 4, 2012 at 10:03 AM

…Bonehead is trying to make sure he loses the base to a 3rd party…so the Republicans can lose EVERY election!…what a joke that his party is that obtuse!

KOOLAID2 on December 4, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Whom do we have left that supports us conservatives?

I had hopes for Alan West but lo and behold he is no longer there.

TP II had better bring us some hope or our nation is not long for any of us.

D-fusit on December 4, 2012 at 10:04 AM

It signals that Boehner wants to have a carte blanche on negotiations this time around, and that his leadership appears ready to give it to him.

Hey – if the GOP keeps trying to drive off the conservatives they may not have the chairmanships to worry about so he wants to use his power before he loses it. Sooner or later the far Right may follow thru on their threats to walk.

katiejane on December 4, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Well…he can’t go after the RINO faction. If he did there’d only be a handful of Republicans left.

This two-party nonsense has got to end.

Other than abortion, really, over the past two decades, what has been the difference between the Dems and the Dem-Lite party?

It is not that difficult to establish a party, get it “registered” by individual Secretaries of State in our state capitals. Getting people to join, well, if you build it, they will come.

This stuff about a “Tea Party?” What party? Other than a cash cow for Norquist and a few others? They can’t even be bothered to register in any state. But, they sure talk a good talk. And collect money from dupes who are willing to part with it.

There’s recruitment material for the Libertarians there. [Third largest party in the United States.] And fertile ground for any other libertarian, federalist, Constitutional or Conservative party to gather up members.

The GOP is dead. Has been terminally ill for well over a decade.

So, what is Boehner doing?

He is laying down drop cloths, setting up ladders and picking out paint colors while the House is burning down all around him.

And…by he end of next week, the GOP House will give Obama about 95% of everything Obama wants…so they don’t get “blamed” for the oncoming fiasco, a fiasco they could have averted by standing their ground and not caved in to the sequestration garbage and all the rest of the Pelosi-Reid Dem shenanigans.

A whole lot of good and decent Americans are so turned off by politics right now, a whole lot are going Galt, a whole lot are looking to take care of their own as best they can, and let all the rest just, well, F themselves.

coldwarrior on December 4, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Does Boohener have to be re-elected to the Speakership when the new Congress is sworn in, or is it just another fait accompli?

Naturally Curly on December 4, 2012 at 10:08 AM

Heavy sigh…heavy, heavy sigh

Thank you for asking on December 4, 2012 at 10:09 AM

This signals the beginning of the end for Conservatives in the Republican Party.

It is time to reform ourselves, we can no longer just go along to get along.

TEA Party members around the country need to come together and discuss our options.

There is no more time left to dilly dally.

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 10:09 AM

New Party? Heh. I’m going to get myself one of those ‘S-e-c-e-d-e’ bumper stickers.

trigon on December 4, 2012 at 10:11 AM

Please DO NOT refer to Allen West as a conservative. The people supporting West need to do your research. His voting record is progressive RINO. Do not pay attention to his empty rhetoric.

Mr. Arrogant on December 4, 2012 at 10:12 AM

This article is generated by The Economist to erode support for republican solutions. The minority party in the House can’t wait for you to throw up your hands and go away. They hope you harrumph off.

I too want someone other than Boehner in charge, I don’t like the seniority system that says Paul Ryan needs “Permission” to be budget head. I want someone with better communication skills like Ryan.

There is a pervasive layer of MSM media in the face of our GOP Representatives that keeps them from hearing us, and distorts what we want. They use things like the Gallup Poll of all Americans to influence them. And MSM stories churning the narrative, like all that fuss over immigration issues after the election, media generated. They marginalize any good idea we have if it is aired on talk radio. Talk radio has the problem that it is not stealth, it’s out there in the public domain so the enemy media can pre empt us before our things take hold, and pretty much label most good ideas as ideas of Old White Men, code words you know.

That pervasive media is working for Obama and against republicans planning on how they can use whatever happens to marginalize conservatives…and better yet, cause fractures amongst us. They want you to scoff at republicans too, and have no one.

Fleuries on December 4, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Hey – if the GOP keeps trying to drive off the conservatives they may not have the chairmanships to worry about so he wants to use his power before he loses it. Sooner or later the far Right may follow thru on their threats to walk.

katiejane on December 4, 2012 at 10:06 AM

The right has already walked. This is why 2012 turned into a disaster for the Republicans. My guess is the lumbering behemoth that is the GOP will finally figure out they need the political right sometime after they lost in 2016, though once they pass amnesty it will probably be too late at that point.

The GOP is clearly destined to go the way of the Whigs soon. I just don’t see how they win elections again with the base rapidly dissolving and the party leadership acting like teenagers trying to jump onto the latest “hot voting fads” (in 2012 it was independents, in 2016 when Jeb runs, it will be Hispanics).

Doomberg on December 4, 2012 at 10:15 AM

An afterthought, perhaps the Libertarian Party is the only viable option open to us?

Perhaps we could make a few changes from within.

As I see it, Libertarians are as close to our principles as can be, with an exception or two.

I see that coldwarrior sees somthing emanating from the TP, This stuff about a “Tea Party?” What party? Other than a cash cow for Norquist and a few others? They can’t even be bothered to register in any state. But, they sure talk a good talk. And collect money from dupes who are willing to part with it.

And this: There’s recruitment material for the Libertarians there. [Third largest party in the United States.] And fertile ground for any other libertarian, federalist, Constitutional or Conservative party to gather up members.

If as is suggested, the TP really is only about itself and money, then it’s time perhaps to take a serious look at Libertarians…

What have we got to lose eh?

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 10:15 AM

There are conservatives in the House?

Who knew?

Dante on December 4, 2012 at 10:16 AM

I hope this is simply a political maneuver to give the real conservatives cover for the upcoming tax rate hikes.

faraway on December 4, 2012 at 10:16 AM

That pervasive media is working for Obama and against republicans planning on how they can use whatever happens to marginalize conservatives…and better yet, cause fractures amongst us. They want you to scoff at republicans too, and have no one.

Fleuries on December 4, 2012 at 10:13 AM

The media doesn’t need to cause fractures among us, though. The party leadership is doing a good job of fracturing the party on its own.

Doomberg on December 4, 2012 at 10:17 AM

Problem is, cats can’t be herded.

Liam on December 4, 2012 at 9:54 AM

.
Yep
Example I like to use is try and order a pizza with five friends, how long does it take?
Now imagine trying to order lunch with 150 people all sure they know what’s best.
Now try and pass legislation.
Lots of possible reasons Bohener removed problem children.

LincolntheHun on December 4, 2012 at 10:18 AM

No mocking “The GOPe will betray you.” posts. Boy, a lot sure can change in a month.

Dongemaharu on December 4, 2012 at 10:18 AM

That pervasive media is working for Obama and against republicans planning on how they can use whatever happens to marginalize conservatives…and better yet, cause fractures amongst us. They want you to scoff at republicans too, and have no one.

Fleuries on December 4, 2012 at 10:13 AM

So Boehner and crew really isn’t a gutless coward who caves in on demand and starts weeping uncontrollably on random occasions? It’s all just a media conspiracy and he’s really a valiant fiscal warrior, fighting the lonely fight against Obama?

sharrukin on December 4, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Reps. David Schweikert of Arizona

I’m not in his district, but I live close enough that this makes me angry. So I wrote to Boehner’s Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/john.boehner.7?fref=ts

I’m sure he’d love to hear from y’all, too.

itsnotaboutme on December 4, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Look, I figure this over the cliff thing is a test. If Republicans can’t figure a way to stand up to this a$$ clown and his minions and stop letting the dems bully them around they’re toast. It’s painful to watch but I guess we’ll see what Boehner & Co. are made of. Grab some popcorn. And pray.

scalleywag on December 4, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Perhaps we could make a few changes from within.

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Such as?

Dante on December 4, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Any chance House conservatives could use this as motivation to band together and un-Speaker Mr. Boehner for the next Congress ? Even mounting a credible threat would send a message, I think.

mdavt on December 4, 2012 at 10:19 AM

trigon on December 4, 2012 at 10:11 AM

‘S-e-c-e-d-e’

Is that truly an option? I have tried to wrap my head around that idea, and to me it presents a ‘nightmare’ unless many other states go along and a new ‘union’ is formed…

We would have to survive without the Feds.

There are so many ‘details’ that would have to ironed out.

A new govt, well I am sure you get the picture… sigh.

What to do, what to do……….

Saying s-e-c-e-d-e is easy, actually DOING it? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm…

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 10:19 AM

The Republican Steering committee is doing an excellent job of steering me away from Republicans.

Free Indeed on December 4, 2012 at 10:20 AM

It is getting closer to a 1776 moment here in Amerika. The blinders will have to be removed from those who cherish Liberty. The few who care will have to take a stand. Live free or die.

david kumbera on December 4, 2012 at 10:21 AM

then it’s time perhaps to take a serious look at Libertarians…

What have we got to lose eh?

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Or any other Conservative, or Federalist, or Constitutionally-based Party.

The Rights of the individual citizen, coupled with the respect for the property Rights of all citizens, liberty under law, under our Constitution…that should be our base line.

The GOP lost this a long time back…they’ll not regain it. They sold out, now they want us to bail them out?

Nope.

Not gonna happen.

coldwarrior on December 4, 2012 at 10:21 AM

Lots of possible reasons Bohener removed problem children.

LincolntheHun on December 4, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Except the ‘children’ want to be fiscally responsible and the ‘adults’ want to keep spending money they don’t have on goodies they don’t need so that their friends will think they are cool.

sharrukin on December 4, 2012 at 10:21 AM

Dante on December 4, 2012 at 10:19 AM

The one thing that comes to mind which was a contention, was libertarian/RP’s stance on foreign policy, which conservatives find/found distasteful.

Otherwise I feel pretty much, there isn’t much else to be at odds over…

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 10:22 AM

Their hatred and fear of conservatives is no passing thing. They’re playing the long game. They used the 2010 midterms to consolidate their own power, rather than even pause to consider the meaning of the victory. Their contempt for our movement and the triumph we gave them should have been enough for all of us.

rrpjr on December 4, 2012 at 10:23 AM

No mocking “The GOPe will betray you.” posts. Boy, a lot sure can change in a month.

Dongemaharu on December 4, 2012 at 10:18 AM

The Boehnerites and establishment supporters are still out there, just look at the Allen West thread. It’s just that they’re too embarassed to speak up right now. We aren’t hearing from them for the same reason that abortion supporters didn’t comment when the Kermit Gosnell story came out.

If as is suggested, the TP really is only about itself and money, then it’s time perhaps to take a serious look at Libertarians…

What have we got to lose eh?

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 10:15 AM

If a real TP is to be started it will need to be an actual political party. The GOP is unreformable – their response to 2010 was to move to the left and basically join forces with Obama to make policy.

Doomberg on December 4, 2012 at 10:23 AM

This looks like the republican party will never elect a president again. How could it with all this infighting?

The dems are laughing their asses off at the republicans and it’s not because of the proposals they are offering. The dems are on their way of destroying the republican party as a major factor in politics without exerting much of their own energy.

If there is going to be a third party it will take at least 12 years before the people take them seriously for a presidential run, meanwhile the dems will have turned the US upside down.

plutorocks on December 4, 2012 at 10:24 AM

term limits.

maineconservative on December 4, 2012 at 9:53 AM

I got a better idea…
vote of confidence.

In the off year election, when house nor senators are on the ballot, allow a straight vote of confidence on the House of Representatives and the Senate. If they do not get a majority vote of confidence in this election, then no current member of that body may run for federal office in the upcoming election cycle. For the Senate, every seat not up for election becomes a special election to be decided on the normal election day.

What this does is destroys incumbency. Yet allows the people to put back into power those that do their bidding.

Term limits and votes of confidence both would require a constitutional amendment to implement. I think my idea is better.

astonerii on December 4, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Pubs don’t want us Conservatives? Fine. We neither want nor need you; we’ll make our own way. It is our way and our nature.

We Conservatives don’t need the Republican Party to define us, because we are of independent minds. It’s not like the Beltway Establishment Pubs offer us something on which to hold.

We don’t need them. And, at this point, it’s safe to say we don’t want them.

Liam on December 4, 2012 at 9:51 AM

It’s time to stop just talking about it and start doing something. I am ready to leave the Republican Party, but just going independent isn’t going to do any good. In the headlines, I said I thought it would be great if the TEA Party would get Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich and Allen West and others to spend the next few years rallying the country, but it would be great if people like that were the head of a consolidated, actual TEA Party, working with Freedom Works, Club for Growth, Heritage Foundation and others.

Night Owl on December 4, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Surely there has to be more that can unite us rather than divide us?

Or any other Conservative, or Federalist, or Constitutionally-based Party.

Where are they? I see loose orgs, I don’t see anything concrete…

Ideas abound…

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 10:24 AM

The dems are laughing their asses off at the republicans and it’s not because of the proposals they are offering. The dems are on their way of destroying the republican party as a major factor in politics without exerting much of their own energy.

If there is going to be a third party it will take at least 12 years before the people take them seriously for a presidential run, meanwhile the dems will have turned the US upside down.

plutorocks on December 4, 2012 at 10:24 AM

No, the Dems have had nothing to do with it.

The problem is the party leadership has decided to make the conscious choice to move the party hard to the left and is busily purging its own base so the New York Times will write nice articles about them.

Doomberg on December 4, 2012 at 10:26 AM

If a real TP is to be started it will need to be an actual political party. The GOP is unreformable – their response to 2010 was to move to the left and basically join forces with Obama to make policy.

Doomberg on December 4, 2012 at 10:23 AM

On that fact I cannot disagree!

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 10:26 AM

The one thing that comes to mind which was a contention, was libertarian/RP’s stance on foreign policy, which conservatives find/found distasteful.

Otherwise I feel pretty much, there isn’t much else to be at odds over…

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 10:22 AM

Maybe I can help simplify it for you: the core value of libertarianism is that no one has the right to initiate force against another, including nations. Let’s mind our own business and have a strong defense here at home where it belongs. Largely tied to the War Party Establishment is the Federal Reserve; it is no coincidence that interventionist foreign policy and central banking are progressive ideas. The former is the means to the latter.

Please check out a book called Rollback by Thomas Woods.

Dante on December 4, 2012 at 10:27 AM

“Conservative” purge? Don’t be silly. Most of these guys aren’t conservative.

Walter B Jones? Liberal (65 out of 100 ACU rating in 2010)
Justin Amash? Paultard
Schweikart? Voted to indefinitely extend unemployment benefits
Huelskamp and Amash both voted against Ryan’s budget

AngusMc on December 4, 2012 at 10:28 AM

So long “Representative Government”…

katy on December 4, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Conservative purge in the House Republican caucus?

cool!!

Better yet! let’s take some Democrats who are still
in the MINORITY in the House Chamber and put them
in charge of Committees!!

HOORAY!!!!!

ToddPA on December 4, 2012 at 10:30 AM

‘S-e-c-e-d-e’

Is that truly an option? I have tried to wrap my head around that idea, and to me it presents a ‘nightmare’ unless many other states go along and a new ‘union’ is formed…

We would have to survive without the Feds.

There are so many ‘details’ that would have to ironed out.

A new govt, well I am sure you get the picture… sigh.

What to do, what to do……….

Saying s-e-c-e-d-e is easy, actually DOING it? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm…

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Of course it is truly an option. No new government is needed; we are a confederation of 50 sovereign nations.

A little briefing on Compact Theory for you: link

Link 2

Dante on December 4, 2012 at 10:30 AM

It’s time to stop just talking about it and start doing something. I am ready to leave the Republican Party, but just going independent isn’t going to do any good. In the headlines, I said I thought it would be great if the TEA Party would get Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich and Allen West and others to spend the next few years rallying the country, but it would be great if people like that were the head of a consolidated, actual TEA Party, working with Freedom Works, Club for Growth, Heritage Foundation and others.

Night Owl on December 4, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Now there’s an idea!

Sarah sure can rally, and West speaks the language we all want to hear, Newt, can talk a good game…

Unfortunately, it comes down to, WHO CAN WE TRUST!! Who can we believe? Who can we really get behind?

Who will be unwavering in the pursuit of true conservatism?

I am tired of the disappointments, of being disillusioned, of being lied to and appeased…thrown over and stomped on…

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 10:32 AM

The RNC, the House and Senate leadership is and has been a disaster. Since Boehner took over as Speaker, what has he accomplished? Absolutely nothing, there is no such thing as compromise for him, it’s capitulation. In this “Fiscal Cliff” fight he is ready to wave the white flag and the real fight has not even started. The conservatives are what is holding a great share of the grass root Republicans together not the progressives.

savage24 on December 4, 2012 at 10:34 AM

David Burge ‏@iowahawkblog
Newsflash for the GOP: opposition to taxes and spending is the only reason most of us tolerate you. Barely.

hoosiermama on December 4, 2012 at 10:35 AM

Screw the GOP leadership. They’re effectively complicit in the destruction of the republic.

Let it burn.

OhioCoastie on December 4, 2012 at 10:35 AM

Primary Boehner!

astonerii on December 4, 2012 at 10:35 AM

With all due respect to the Conservative tongue lashing of Boehner, where is the voice of the TP caucus?

Why are they not more visible or vocal on any of this crap ? – Role calls are one thing, but where is the TP Voice that should be a part of DC yada yada these days.

I think that’s what HA faithful are missing – Strong principled TP Pushback.

FlaMurph on December 4, 2012 at 10:36 AM

Point of order: The Tea Party candidate (David Lewis)that primaried Boehner earlier this year was a one issue raving lunatic. Something to consider before going all in for Tea Party 2.0

Mr. Arrogant on December 4, 2012 at 10:37 AM

Dante on December 4, 2012 at 10:30 AM

Thanks for the links! I am up to read as much as possible…

Understanding American Political History, is somthing I have been doing for the last few years… focusing on the founders, and understanding the Constitution, how politics has changed, and how the historical lies have now become the truth…

Party differences etc…

I have read a little on ‘nullification’…

Thanks again!

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 10:37 AM

Did Boehner cry yet? Vote against the leadership guys.

antisocial on December 4, 2012 at 10:39 AM

With all due respect to the Conservative tongue lashing of Boehner, where is the voice of the TP caucus?

FlaMurph on December 4, 2012 at 10:36 AM

They voted to raise the debt ceiling along with Boehner, remember?

Dante on December 4, 2012 at 10:39 AM

The problem is the party leadership has decided to make the conscious choice to move the party hard to the left and is busily purging its own base so the New York Times will write nice articles about them.

Doomberg on December 4, 2012 at 10:26 AM

And conservatives can’t even lose on their own merits. It’s like having Burke, Hudson and Gorman in charge. Meanwhile, Hicks and Vasquez have been demoted.

Dongemaharu on December 4, 2012 at 10:39 AM

One thing for certain, no matter what the outcome is, it is all on the Speaker.

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 10:40 AM

Screw the GOP leadership. They’re effectively complicit in the destruction of the republic.

Let it burn.

OhioCoastie on December 4, 2012 at 10:35 AM

Hear, hear.

HeckOnWheels on December 4, 2012 at 10:40 AM

Dante on December 4, 2012 at 10:30 AM

Thanks for the links! I am up to read as much as possible…

Understanding American Political History, is somthing I have been doing for the last few years… focusing on the founders, and understanding the Constitution, how politics has changed, and how the historical lies have now become the truth…

Party differences etc…

I have read a little on ‘nullification’…

Thanks again!

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 10:37 AM

Don’t depend on Dante “Murray Rothbard built my hotrod” for your understanding of freedom. He’s a neo-anarchist who thinks the constitution itself was a mistake from the get-go, rather than our abject failure to follow it.

gryphon202 on December 4, 2012 at 10:40 AM

Stop trying to blame the liberal media for trying to divide the GOP when it’s the GOP Establishment doing it– who for the past 20 years have been at war with conservatives ever since Reagan left.

1.The rule changes that gave the Establishment more power at the convention usurped the voices of the voters there who cried Nay.

2. They just pushed out key fiscal conservatives from the budget committees

3. they are pushing Jeb Bush

4. We just lost again with another moderate who all of the so called Republican pundits claim was the only one that could win

5. We have Republicans power brokers behind the scenes trashing our conservative leaders to the national media

What more can they do when some here will get the message -— they will destroy a conservative before they will attack one of their own democrat lite person

journeymike on December 4, 2012 at 10:41 AM

According to a source, Schweikert was told that he was ousted in part because his “votes were not in lockstep with leadership.”

Captain Queeg is demanding the scalps of the strawberry thieves.

bloviator on December 4, 2012 at 10:43 AM

Let’s make the GOP the party of big-government troglocons. Hopefully, it will soon follow the other dinosaurs. Meanwhile, I’ll welcome our new socialist overlords. Heck, I outlived Socialism in Russia, I repeated in in Israel, and I’ll likely pull it here as well.

Archivarix on December 4, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Dante on December 4, 2012 at 10:39 AM

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well, you’re mostly right, Half of them voted for ceiling raise

- but what the hell-

How many cliffs must a man fall off, before you can call him dead ?

FlaMurph on December 4, 2012 at 10:45 AM

gryphon202 on December 4, 2012 at 10:40 AM

Thanks! Any good suggestions for reading material?

I am usually a good deducer of what is set before me…

Dante, for what it’s worth, shares his/her ideas, which one can take or leave…

I also do not believe the Constitution was a mistake!

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 10:45 AM

This is stupid. Only media personalities and consultants with an axe to grind say things like you’re getting the boot because your “votes were not in lockstep with leadership.”

Beither Boehnor, Cantor, nor Hensarling would talk like that. Not only that, some of the new members on those committees are known for not exactly being “in lockstep with leadership.”

These Hill rags…..Roll Call, The Hill, Politico….are all playing the Operation Demoralize game. Let’s not help them out, huh?

dczombie on December 4, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Huelskamp said in a Monday night statement. “The GOP leadership might think they have silenced conservatives, but removing me and others from key committees only confirms our conservative convictions. This is clearly a vindictive move, and a sure sign that the GOP Establishment cannot handle disagreement.”

journeymike on December 4, 2012 at 10:47 AM

gryphon202 on December 4, 2012 at 10:40 AM

Any good suggestions for reading material?

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Start with The Federalist Papers. Every last word of them. They collectively represent a brilliant deconstruction of the thoughts behind the writing, signing, and ratification of the constitution.

gryphon202 on December 4, 2012 at 10:47 AM

3. they are pushing Jeb Bush

journeymike on December 4, 2012 at 10:41 AM

I swear, if they so much as to think of nominating Bush, I’ll fill prepaid GOP envelope with used Gillette blades and write “No More Bush” over the package. Will it help them to get the message, I wonder?

Archivarix on December 4, 2012 at 10:48 AM

The Weeping Boner is trying to prepare the field for another of his historic caves to Barky and the America-hating left – just as he’s done throughout his pathetic tenure as House Weeper (which should have been unceremoniously ended back in March of 2011 when it was clear that he was a total failure and idiot).

I blame the idiots in the House GOP, though, who voted this pathetic moron back in after he did such an awful job since taking the position. The Weeping Boner HAS TO GO! He is the worst. The Boner is a cowardly idiot who can only be trusted to lie down for the Indonesian and his junta to run over … and then have the GOP blamed for it.

Sweep the Weeping Boner … NOW!!

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on December 4, 2012 at 10:49 AM

These Hill rags…..Roll Call, The Hill, Politico….are all playing the Operation Demoralize game. Let’s not help them out, huh?

dczombie on December 4, 2012 at 10:45 AM

BS!

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/03/Boehner-GOP-leaders-purge-conservatives-from-powerful-House-committees

idesign on December 4, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Bo(eh)ner’s just preparing to hand the gavel back to Pelosi come 2015 (or sooner if he pisses off enough of his “fellow” Republicans).

Steve Eggleston on December 4, 2012 at 10:53 AM

Thanks! Any good suggestions for reading material?

I am usually a good deducer of what is set before me…

Dante, for what it’s worth, shares his/her ideas, which one can take or leave…

I also do not believe the Constitution was a mistake!

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Tom Woods, mises.org, Rothbard, Lew Rockwell, and click the link in my name. All good starting points.

Regarding the Constitution bit, you’d have to understand Rothbard’s arguments, such as the State is not legitimate, because it is predicated on force and coercion.

Rothbard: The Anatomy of the State

Additionally, some view the Articles of Confederation as superior to the Constitution because the Constitution granted the federal government more centralized power than before, and many of its clauses are nebulous that are used to justify bigger government and more federal power.

Dante on December 4, 2012 at 10:53 AM

Does this suprise anyone? I am through with the Republican Party. If I vote, it will be Libertarian or third party if conservatives can organize one. Midterms would be a great time to demonstrate this, and I don’t care what Limbaugh, Hannity, Ingraham, Coulter, Levin or the rest of them say. Truthfully, I’m not sure Republicans even want to be in the majority, it’s easier for them to be victims than leaders. Politicians from both parties are corrupt and only care about keeping their power and money.

lea on December 4, 2012 at 10:54 AM

Ah, yes. Once again, conservatives have been boned by Boehner.

Anyone who thought the Rockfeller Republicans had left obviously wasn’t paying attention – they’ve been running the show for years.

Remember the 2010 “Pledge to America” when they promised to roll back spending to 2008 levels if the GOP won the House. Ha ha ha, yeah, me neither…

Inkblots on December 4, 2012 at 10:55 AM

third party its the only way.

unseen on December 4, 2012 at 10:55 AM

It seems the democrats are now socialists, the republicans are now democrats, and there is no party representing the conservative part of the country. That needs to change.

Night Owl on December 4, 2012 at 10:56 AM

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 10:15 AM

I’ve been registered as a Libertarian since I could be registered as anything. I kinda gave up on the party when I decided they weren’t really serious — running on legalizing weed marginalizes you somewhat. Maybe if enough serious conservatives were to join and force the party to grow up, it could be the answer. Hell, get the Constitutionalists to merge in to swell the numbers and better define the message..?

affenhauer on December 4, 2012 at 10:56 AM

I’m sure that what we’re having to deal with now is exactly what would be going on if Romney were to have been elected..because there is no difference at all, between Obama and Romney.
I’m so proud of myself for voting for Biff Johnson. I can at least sleep good at night knowing I helped show people the way to really understand the Constitution.

FORWARD!

Mimzey on December 4, 2012 at 10:56 AM

People need to communicate their repulsion with the current GOP leadership to the RNC and their reps. Tell them NO MORE MONEY/TIME period until leadership changes.

Talking about it here will accomplish absolutely nothing.

Mr. Arrogant on December 4, 2012 at 10:57 AM

These Hill rags…..Roll Call, The Hill, Politico….are all playing the Operation Demoralize game. Let’s not help them out, huh?

dczombie on December 4, 2012 at 10:45 AM

No, they’re not. This stuff has been going on since 2010. The “media” isn’t destroying the Republican party, our brilliant “leadership” is what is taking us off the cliff.

Does this suprise anyone? I am through with the Republican Party. If I vote, it will be Libertarian or third party if conservatives can organize one. Midterms would be a great time to demonstrate this, and I don’t care what Limbaugh, Hannity, Ingraham, Coulter, Levin or the rest of them say.

lea on December 4, 2012 at 10:54 AM

I can’t speak to most of the rest of these, but I listen to Rush on occasion and he is starting to have major doubts about the party leadership. I would not be surprised to see him break with the party in the next couple years.

Doomberg on December 4, 2012 at 10:59 AM

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