White House reponds to GOP’s counteroffer: Sorry, wrong number, not going there

posted at 6:01 pm on December 3, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

Despite Republicans’ significant concession that they would be amenable to revenue increases if they came via tax-code reform — an honest-to-goodness effort at compromise — President Obama has roundly refused to even consider a plan that doesn’t include tax-rate increases on the wealthy, the only apparent policy rationale being that it’s just that important to him to be a full-on class warrior. It looks like the White House is sticking to that line, even after Speaker Boehner officially released the GOP’s own proposal earlier this afternoon. So much for “negotiation,” via BuzzFeed:

“The Republican letter released today does not meet the test of balance,” Pfeiffer said. “In fact, it actually promises to lower rates for the wealthy and sticks the middle class with the bill. Their plan includes nothing new and provides no details on which deductions they would eliminate, which loopholes they will close or which Medicare savings they would achieve.” …

Pfeiffer continued:

Independent analysts who have looked at plans like this one have concluded that middle class taxes will have to go up to pay for lower rates for millionaires and billionaires. While the President is willing to compromise to get a significant, balanced deal and believes that compromise is readily available to Congress, he is not willing to compromise on the principles of fairness and balance that include asking the wealthiest to pay higher rates. President Obama believes – and the American people agree – that the economy works best when it is grown from the middle out, not from the top down. Until the Republicans in Congress are willing to get serious about asking the wealthiest to pay slightly higher tax rates, we won’t be able to achieve a significant, balanced approach to reduce our deficit our nation needs.

Uh, not balanced? What the heck type of scales are they using? Ohhh, that’s right, the “fairness”/ “my way or the highway” scales. Are they really not going to move from their original demand-for-surrender and walk toward the GOP even a tiny bit? Like Keith Hennessy wrote in today’s WSJ, it’s starting to feel a lot like President Obama just can’t take yes for an answer:

Mr. Obama says reductions in ObamaCare spending are out of the question, and Congress must now agree to at least $50 billion in new stimulus spending next year. The debt limit must be permanently increased without accompanying spending cuts.

By contrast, House Speaker John Boehner and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell have offered on behalf of Republicans a significant concession in an attempt to close the negotiating gap. Mr. Boehner and Mr. McConnell propose to accept higher taxes on the rich as long as government spending is cut significantly and incentives to work and invest are not weakened. That way, higher taxes and entitlement-spending cuts would reduce future deficits, not finance even bigger government as the president proposes.

Unfortunately, it appears that President Obama cannot take yes for an answer. Republican leaders have shown him a legislative path to lock in his top policy priority with a strong bipartisan vote. Their proposal splits their own caucus, yet still the president refuses because he thinks he can get even more.

And, of course, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid quickly followed suit with the White House’s statement:

“To protect millionaires, Speaker Boehner’s offer would force middle class families to pay higher taxes. Raising taxes on the middle class is bad policy and flunks the test of balance. To protect the middle class while reducing the deficit, simple math dictates that tax rates must rise on the top two percent of taxpayers next year. The sooner Republicans grasp that reality, the sooner we can avoid the fiscal cliff.

“Democrats are willing to compromise, but any agreement must protect the middle class. We have also been clear that we have no intention of kicking the can down the road. Not only does Speaker Boehner’s proposal delay revenues into 2013, it sets up another destructive fight over the debt ceiling first thing next year.

Simple math, really? Because, as Jen Rubin explains, the Republicans’ plan would do far more in terms of balanced deficit-reduction that the president’s proposal:

A House leadership aide told Right Turn that “the GOP offer includes more deficit reduction than the White House offer last week, which included hundreds of billions in new stimulus’ spending. Our net deficit reduction is $2.2 trillion, but if we were to utilize White House schemes to count (1) previously-enacted Budget Control Act savings, (2) a war savings gimmick, and (3) further interest savings, our proposal would result in $4.6 trillion in deficit reduction savings, much more than theirs.”

So we have the potential for a deal that is somewhere between Bowles’s plan last year and the president’s plan.

That certainly was a quick and hard-line response from the White House — kinda’ like they already knew what they would say, no matter what the Republicans put on the table. If I didn’t know any better, I’d say that…

“I think the president is increasingly showing his hand that he is comfortable going off the cliff,” Barrasso tells THE WEEKLY STANDARD, in response to a question about President Obama’s negotiation strategy. “He’s not involving Republicans in the process. He was playing golf this weekend with Bill Clinton, Ron Kirk, and ex-DNC chair Terry McAuliffe. He’s not seeming to be one to work together. He seems to be lecturing more than listening. And I just think that it’s increasingly clear he’s comfortable going off the cliff.”


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Tell Obama to pound sand.

PappyD61 on December 3, 2012 at 6:05 PM

Unfortunately the gop will ask Obama if he has a straw so they can SUCK THE SAND.

#UGHgop

PappyD61 on December 3, 2012 at 6:06 PM

Walk away.

esr1951 on December 3, 2012 at 6:07 PM

you can’t deal with the dark side

Windsweeping on December 3, 2012 at 6:08 PM

I don’t know why Republicans don’t set up a live video channel of a Republican seated at a table across from an empty chair and then use that bit of theater to insist that any “fiscal cliff” negotiations be transparent and joined by both sides. Obama won’t show up to this, but it extends Eastwood’s successful and memorable empty chair while showing that the Republicans are showing up ready to talk, with ideas.

beatcanvas on December 3, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Let it burn…

That is all…

Tim Zank on December 3, 2012 at 6:09 PM

Once again GOPe’rs… L.i.B! Last word…period .

Scrumpy on December 3, 2012 at 6:09 PM

Walk away.

Punchenko on December 3, 2012 at 6:09 PM

REALLY call Bark’s bluff. Offer ten times whatever his plan calls for and a threat to block the legislation if Bark and the senate don’t agree to it.

Bishop on December 3, 2012 at 6:09 PM

Mr. Boehner,

The WH has just told you “f*ck off”.

Now is the moment when you show us what you’re made of.

bloviator on December 3, 2012 at 6:10 PM

The entire response was made up of falsehoods. Obama wants the “cliff”. There is no doubt at this point.

The case that needs to be made is that Obama wants negotiations to fail.

forest on December 3, 2012 at 6:10 PM

It looks like the White House is sticking to that line, even after Speaker Boehner officially released the GOP’s own proposal earlier this afternoon. So much for “negotiation,”

Stop with pretenses. There is no “negotiation”, the sequester will happen because Obama wants it, and the MSM will make sure GOP will take the blame for the fallout.

End of story.

Lose-Lose-Lose situation.

Norwegian on December 3, 2012 at 6:10 PM

Part of the problem is the MSM stories will only quote Pfeiffer & Reid, but never quote Boenher or talk about the kinds of things Jennifer Rubin and Keith Hennessy discuss in their articles. The average low-info citizen will always come away thinking this is all the Rethuglicans’ fault.

KS Rex on December 3, 2012 at 6:11 PM

Obama is basically a sore winner.

Liam on December 3, 2012 at 6:11 PM

WALK AWAY

Again, the counter should have been more aggressive, with Bowles being the final offer

Time to walk away

Let it burn

thurman on December 3, 2012 at 6:11 PM

barry’s base want’s a scalp, and that is the top rate go UP on Rich people. That is what they voted for…soak the rich…let mikey eat it…whatever the frame is.

these people aren’t that good at math..so to say well, lets cap deductions and get the money that way…well, they smell a scam.

the want there pound of flesh.

r keller on December 3, 2012 at 6:11 PM

you can’t deal with the dark side

I find your lack of faith…. disturbing.

worldtvlr on December 3, 2012 at 6:11 PM

you can’t deal with the dark side

Windsweeping on December 3, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Sure you can.

forest on December 3, 2012 at 6:12 PM

Shut the place down. Walk away and do your own thing. Pass a responsible budget and send it to the Senate. let them deal with it.

BetseyRoss on December 3, 2012 at 6:12 PM

Oh, all we’re interested in is deficit reduction now? What happened to the Republican drum beat about growth?

Maddow hit it on the head when she said “This isn’t a “counteroffer”; it’s a Christmas wish list written by kids without access to calculators.”

Constantine on December 3, 2012 at 6:13 PM

WALK AWAY!!

Eschelon on December 3, 2012 at 6:14 PM

what an idiot….

the lsm will push the meme that the gop only wants to hurt the middle class with this preposterous proposal…switched over to msdnc, tingles blasted the gop that they offered nothing new…like dear leader actually brought anything new to the table….

cripe…don’t become squishes gop…they want to go over the cliff, let them ALL BY THEMSELVES

cmsinaz on December 3, 2012 at 6:14 PM

Step One – Write up Obama’s plan and bring it to a vote in the House. Let it go down to utter defeat with less than 100 votes.

Step Two – Codify this into legislation, pass it deposit on Harry Reid’s desk.

Step Two A – For extra measure take Bowles Simpson and turn that into legislation lock stock and barrel.

Pass it and then walk away.

abnormal_1 on December 3, 2012 at 6:14 PM

Don’t worry, Romney is waiting till the final weeks to drop the bomb on Barry. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

GhoulAid on December 3, 2012 at 6:15 PM

He seems to be lecturing more than listening

I won, part deux

cmsinaz on December 3, 2012 at 6:15 PM

Boner needs to tell Geitner to get stuffed. Tell that appointed-not-elected proxy to butt the hell out. Tell the ‘lame duck’ President that he’ll have to do a helluva lot more to get elected representatives (facing 2014) to make a deal. In fact Boner et al should be doing everything they can to point out the Obamunists complete lack of skin in the game, how they can readily demagogue their way thru the whole process, because they have nothing to lose now in waging a game of class warfare. Because those are the stakes (besides the entire economic viability of our nation)

rayra on December 3, 2012 at 6:15 PM

PappyD61 on December 3, 2012 at 6:05 PM

+infinity

cmsinaz on December 3, 2012 at 6:16 PM

concession

You Keep Using That Word, I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means.

lester on December 3, 2012 at 6:16 PM

Guess what? All those companies who didn’t send out notices a month ago when they were supposed to by law, the ones the administration strong armed, are about to find out the gov’t won’t be paying for the lawsuits either. No bigger liar than Obama.

txhsmom on December 3, 2012 at 6:16 PM

RUN, dont walk

hillsoftx on December 3, 2012 at 6:17 PM

KS Rex on December 3, 2012 at 6:11 PM

yepper

cmsinaz on December 3, 2012 at 6:17 PM

Boehner. John? Ya listening?

Walk away.

Just walk away.

When you wrestle with a pig, you get dirty, downright muddy, and the pig actually enjoys it.

Just walk away.

Announce that there is no more negotiation.

Face it. If a bunch of gangbangers invaded your home, raided your fridge, started breaking apart the furniture to get a good fire going in the living room fireplace…would you give them the upstairs part of the house, you know, just to make them feel good and to show them you could compromise? While you and your family headed downstairs to the basement with whatever the gangbangers let you keep, or maybe out to the garage for the remainder of your lives? That’d be a good thing, right, because you compromised, saw things from their viewpoint?

{Prudence would have dictated that you would have taken all precautions and made arrangements for active defense of your home….long long before the thugs showed up, but that is another story, for another day. When they kick in the door, and you are unprepared, it is already way too late.]

Anyway…

Obama and his gang of progressives and thieves (redundant, I know) have decided to take over all of our homes, by force.

There is no compromise when it comes to principles.

We’ve gone that way before, many times, and it has produced what? Exactly. More demands from the progressives for us to compromise some more.

So, John, expect to be home in Cincinnati for Christmas. Tell the rest of the GOP members of the House to do likewise.

Just don’t play this stupid game by their rules any more.

Just walk away.

It’ll make you feel good, really, and you won’t get all dirty and muddy, either.

coldwarrior on December 3, 2012 at 6:20 PM

President Obama believes – and the American people agree – that the economy works best when it is grown from the middle out, not from the top down

Everybody knows? I’m sure that there is a logical fallacy in this rhetorical trick.

The challenge is for the opposition to counterattack it meaningfully.

onlineanalyst on December 3, 2012 at 6:20 PM

Pass it and tell Reid and Obama to shove it as far up their lying asses as “fiscally” possible.

Tater Salad on December 3, 2012 at 6:20 PM

Don’t worry, Romney is waiting till the final weeks to drop the bomb on Barry. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

GhoulAid on December 3, 2012 at 6:15 PM

Yeah, that much vaunted “Death Star” is still warming up somewhere /sarc

By the way, Romney is now finally showing his “severe conservative” colors and dedication to the GOP:


In private, Romney has told friends he has little interest in helping the Republican Party rebuild and re-brand itself.

Norwegian on December 3, 2012 at 6:21 PM

Boehner should doo what Reagan did with Gorbachev. Look Obama in the eye and simply say negotiations are over and walk out.

ThePrez on December 3, 2012 at 6:21 PM

That certainly was a quick and hard-line response from the White House — kinda’ like they already knew what they would say, no matter what the Republicans put on the table.

That’s exactly what it smells like to me. The president is NEVER going to agree with anything the GOP puts forward. NEVER. He’s not even in this except to say no to any offer that’s put on the table. Once again, he’s leading from a golf course. Soon he’ll try and lead from his $4 million vacation in Hawaii.

scalleywag on December 3, 2012 at 6:23 PM

By the way, Romney is now finally showing his “severe conservative” colors and dedication to the GOP:

In private, Romney has told friends he has little interest in helping the Republican Party rebuild and re-brand itself.

Norwegian on December 3, 2012 at 6:21 PM

In all fairness, if Romney tried to be a part of it, most here would say he`s just trying to save “The Establishment” or something.

ThePrez on December 3, 2012 at 6:23 PM

“…asking the wealthiest…”

Why don’t more people call Obama and his minions on that expression? They get away with repeatedly.

It sets my teeth on edge in its disingenuous totalitarian iron-fist-in-the-velvet-glove hypocrisy.

I guess I spent too much time around left-wing Canadian unionists in my early days not to react to that kind of deceptive quasi-Marxist euphemsistic phraseology, right up there with “middle class” and “working people,” which I heard one despicable Democrat congresswoman utter the other day as well.

Drained Brain on December 3, 2012 at 6:23 PM

Let Obama and the Dems crash the economy.

NO new taxes/revenues at all, ONLY spending cuts.

Period.

Let Obama Burn.

profitsbeard on December 3, 2012 at 6:23 PM

Offer Obama a 5% tax hike on the ‘rich’ with a commensurate 4% cut in spending across the board. The only thing on which to hold firm is that the president does not get unilateral authority he and Pelosi demand to increase the debt ceiling.

All other issues, like ‘reforms’, are off the table pending further discussion. Making it all-or-nothing right now isn’t going to work. I say to take one matter at a time, using the Dem practice of incrementalism.

If that doesn’t work, the Pubs should just walk away and let it all happen as Obama is pushing in his arrogant stubbornness. Let the Dems own it all, without Republican fingerprints.

If it comes to a floor vote, all the Pubs should pull an Obama and vote ‘present’ with one or two token ‘nay’ votes.

Liam on December 3, 2012 at 6:24 PM

The GOP is retarded.

rrpjr on December 3, 2012 at 6:24 PM

President Obama has roundly refused to even consider a plan that doesn’t include tax-rate increases on the wealthy, the only apparent policy rationale being that it’s just that important to him to be a full-on class warrior.

Reminiscent of Obama wanting the capital gains tax rate to go up, not because it would generate more revenue, not because it would help the economy, not because it would make good sense, no, but out of “fairness”. So Obama could look in the mirror and say, “Mirror, mirror, on the wall, I’M the fairest of them all”.

Paul-Cincy on December 3, 2012 at 6:24 PM

“…asking the wealthiest…”

Why don’t more people call Obama and his minions on that expression? They get away with repeatedly.

It sets my teeth on edge in its disingenuous totalitarian iron-fist-in-the-velvet-glove hypocrisy.

I guess I spent too much time around left-wing Canadian unionists in my early days not to react to that kind of deceptive quasi-Marxist euphemsistic phraseology, right up there with “middle class” and “working people,” which I heard one despicable Democrat congresswoman utter the other day as well.

Drained Brain on December 3, 2012 at 6:23 PM

Oh, and I forgot “fair share.”

Thanks. I feel better.

Drained Brain on December 3, 2012 at 6:24 PM

ThePrez on December 3, 2012 at 6:21 PM

‘Twas a glorious day in Reykjavik, too. A short 26 years ago.

coldwarrior on December 3, 2012 at 6:25 PM

Mr. Boehner,

The WH has just told you “f*ck off”.

Now is the moment when you show us what you’re made of.

bloviator on December 3, 2012 at 6:10 PM

Pass the bill they just proposed and recess the House.

gophergirl on December 3, 2012 at 6:26 PM

Raising taxes is one thing, but agreeing to no debt ceiling and more stimulus for spending will be their doom. Boehner and McConnel need to grow a spine, because they are the only ones who can save this country now.

lea on December 3, 2012 at 6:27 PM

By the way, Romney is now finally showing his “severe conservative” colors and dedication to the GOP:

In private, Romney has told friends he has little interest in helping the Republican Party rebuild and re-brand itself.

Norwegian on December 3, 2012 at 6:21 PM

Would you if you were him? They’ve just spent the past month taking turns knifing him in the back.

I think any person would basically walk away after that.

gophergirl on December 3, 2012 at 6:28 PM

Obama is basically a sore winner.

Liam on December 3, 2012 at 6:11 PM

.
That’s true Liam, but we can alter that statement slightly to catch the full truth.
.

Obama is basically a sore winner person.

listens2glenn on December 3, 2012 at 6:28 PM

Give the Head NarcisistIn Charge (HNIC) the bump in top rate tax increase and $800 billion in cuts. 50/50, THEN walk away and let everybody feel the pain.

jukin3 on December 3, 2012 at 6:28 PM

I’m confused…how does Boehner’s plan increase taxes on the middle class?

scalleywag on December 3, 2012 at 6:29 PM

Pass the bill they just proposed and recess the House.

gophergirl on December 3, 2012 at 6:26 PM

This.

txhsmom on December 3, 2012 at 6:29 PM

Come on Boehner show us the huevo.FK Obama and walk away and let the whole goddamn thing burn!Burn.Baby.Burn.

jeffinsjvca on December 3, 2012 at 6:30 PM

listens2glenn on December 3, 2012 at 6:28 PM

“Sore” isn’t the term I would use to describe Obama. It lacks the fullest definition of him.

Liam on December 3, 2012 at 6:31 PM

Norwegian on December 3, 2012 at 6:21 PM

was that supposed to be a link child?

DanMan on December 3, 2012 at 6:31 PM

Part of the problem is the MSM stories will only quote Pfeiffer & Reid, but never quote Boenher or talk about the kinds of things Jennifer Rubin and Keith Hennessy discuss in their articles. The average low-info citizen will always come away thinking this is all the Rethuglicans’ fault.

KS Rex on December 3, 2012 at 6:11 PM

Honestly, at this point I’m willing to let the idiot voters and the MSM drown in their own stupidity. The hell with them. It’s all now in how we survive.

If they suffer, well, they dug their own grave. They will be too dumb to figure out who caused the ruination of their lives, and will blame the people trying to save them. Boo freaking hoo. Write them off. They have no hope, no intentions of bettering themselves.

LET THEM BURN.

Myron Falwell on December 3, 2012 at 6:32 PM

54 trees and no shame.

BHO Jonestown on December 3, 2012 at 6:33 PM

“…asking the wealthiest…”

Why don’t more people call Obama and his minions on that expression? They get away with repeatedly.

It sets my teeth on edge in its disingenuous totalitarian iron-fist-in-the-velvet-glove hypocrisy.

I guess I spent too much time around left-wing Canadian unionists in my early days not to react to that kind of deceptive quasi-Marxist euphemsistic phraseology, right up there with “middle class” and “working people,” which I heard one despicable Democrat congresswoman utter the other day as well.

Drained Brain on December 3, 2012 at 6:23 PM

Yes – asking them at the point of a gun….

LIB

Chip on December 3, 2012 at 6:33 PM

I guess balance means raising eight Gov. days worth of money and cutting zero spending

Slade73 on December 3, 2012 at 6:34 PM

L.I.B.

nukemhill on December 3, 2012 at 6:34 PM

The economy is so screwed. ObamaTax is already going to cost my family $120 A MONTH more next year. If taxes go up, I’ll be cancelling a whole lot more and telling them why when I call too.

txhsmom on December 3, 2012 at 6:34 PM

I’m confused…how does Boehner’s plan increase taxes on the middle class?

scalleywag on December 3, 2012 at 6:29 PM

It doesn’t. But because Obama says so and Chris Matthews believes it, the statement can’t be anything other than true. Realistically–who needs facts when anything Obama says is considered Gospel by his apostles?

Liam on December 3, 2012 at 6:35 PM

Any dummy can

Schadenfreude on December 3, 2012 at 6:35 PM

The economy is so screwed. ObamaTax is already going to cost my family $120 A MONTH more next year. If taxes go up, I’ll be cancelling a whole lot more and telling them why when I call too.

txhsmom on December 3, 2012 at 6:34 PM

When that need of households like yours become necessary, expect to be called unpatriotic and anti-American by Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Matthews, et. al.

Liam on December 3, 2012 at 6:37 PM

Unfortunately, it appears that President Obama cannot take yes for an answer. Republican leaders have shown him a legislative path to lock in his top policy priority with a strong bipartisan vote. Their proposal splits their own caucus, yet still the president refuses because he thinks he can get even more.

Just like the late Yassir Arafat who decided, when Israel offered him 90% of everything he wanted, that he could get even more by simply going to war against Israel.

Aitch748 on December 3, 2012 at 6:38 PM

Lester and Constantine – When is the last time you got a job from a poor person?

Oops. I forgot who I was talking to.

To explain, a job is what we grownups go and do everyday, so you can stay in the basement and play video games.

kingsjester on December 3, 2012 at 6:38 PM

Lincoln freed the blacks.

Schadenfreude on December 3, 2012 at 6:39 PM

you can’t deal with the dark side

Windsweeping on December 3, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Sure you can.

forest on December 3, 2012 at 6:12 PM

Oh that is hilarious, especially if you keep an eye on the stormtrooper in the back. Thanks for the laugh.

LIB!

kim roy on December 3, 2012 at 6:39 PM

Shut Congress down for four years.

so-notbuyingit on December 3, 2012 at 6:40 PM

Cut the purse strings. Make it sting.

Speakup on December 3, 2012 at 6:41 PM

Stop with pretenses. There is no “negotiation”, the sequester will happen because Obama wants it, and the MSM will make sure GOP will take the blame for the fallout.

End of story.

Lose-Lose-Lose situation.

Norwegian on December 3, 2012 at 6:10 PM

I’ve come to that conclusion myself: The plan is to stomp the accelerator through the floor and go over the fiscal cliff Thelma-and-Louise style and then claim that the Republicans made ‘em do it.

Aitch748 on December 3, 2012 at 6:41 PM

In what universe is an adamant refusal to accept any increases in progressive tax rates as a “Compromise”?

Typhonsentra on December 3, 2012 at 6:41 PM

*Constitute a compromise.

Typhonsentra on December 3, 2012 at 6:41 PM

With our Country on the edge of an economic cliff that could thrust us into another recession, unemploy millions, cause hardship and pain…

… the Democrats play games and plan vacations.

You would think that Speaker Boehner would have realized what soulless creatures he is dealing with by now, but I guess not…

… There is only one way to deal with Obowma and Reid.

Seven Percent Solution on December 3, 2012 at 6:41 PM

Oh, all we’re interested in is deficit reduction now?

Constantine on December 3, 2012 at 6:13 PM

Not they. The children and grandchildren will ‘thank’ you. May you all be destroyed.

Schadenfreude on December 3, 2012 at 6:41 PM

Typhonsentra on December 3, 2012 at 6:41 PM

In what universe is the idiotic offer your messiah made, considered a legitimate offer?

kingsjester on December 3, 2012 at 6:42 PM

Oh, all we’re interested in is deficit reduction now?

Constantine on December 3, 2012 at 6:13 PM

Not they

Schadenfreude on December 3, 2012 at 6:42 PM

GOP will probably have to let it go over the cliff..So I say call his bluff..:)

PS..Nice Blog post Erika!!..:)

Dire Straits on December 3, 2012 at 6:42 PM

Obama makes turkeys appear smart.

Schadenfreude on December 3, 2012 at 6:43 PM

The Republicans just caved in.

At least they are consistent.

percysunshine on December 3, 2012 at 6:44 PM

By the way, Romney is now finally showing his “severe conservative” colors and dedication to the GOP:

In private, Romney has told friends he has little interest in helping the Republican Party rebuild and re-brand itself.

Norwegian on December 3, 2012 at 6:21 PM

Why would this be a surprise? Maybe he took umbrage with the backstabbing BS posturing and jockeying like a lot of us did.

We don’t want the GOP to “rebuild and re-brand” because that just means, in their definition, probably more pandering and shifting to the left.

Good for him. Never liked him before and during the primaries, but am starting to find some respect.

kim roy on December 3, 2012 at 6:44 PM

Fool in Chief

Schadenfreude on December 3, 2012 at 6:44 PM

In private, Romney has told friends he has little interest in helping the Republican Party rebuild and re-brand itself.

Norwegian on December 3, 2012 at 6:21 PM

Consider it a blessing. Send him a thank you note.

Schadenfreude on December 3, 2012 at 6:46 PM

Oh, all we’re interested in is deficit reduction now? What happened to the Republican drum beat about growth?

Maddow hit it on the head when she said “This isn’t a “counteroffer”; it’s a Christmas wish list written by kids without access to calculators.”

Constantine on December 3, 2012 at 6:13 PM

What did Maddow say about trillion dollar deficits, falling wages, downgraded credit ratings and near-zero growth for 4 straight years?

Chuck Schick on December 3, 2012 at 6:47 PM

txhsmom on December 3, 2012 at 6:34 PM

When that need of households like yours become necessary, expect to be called unpatriotic and anti-American by Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Matthews, et. al.

Liam on December 3, 2012 at 6:37 PM

No doubt. This administration wants to start a civil war.

txhsmom on December 3, 2012 at 6:47 PM

In what universe is an adamant refusal to accept any increases in progressive tax rates as a “Compromise”?

Typhonsentra on December 3, 2012 at 6:41 PM

The same universe you offered zero spending cuts.

Chuck Schick on December 3, 2012 at 6:48 PM

The Republicans just caved in.

At least they are consistent.

percysunshine on December 3, 2012 at 6:44 PM

?

txhsmom on December 3, 2012 at 6:48 PM

Obama’s so dumb he failed a blood test.

Slade73 on December 3, 2012 at 6:48 PM

The Republicans just caved in.

At least they are consistent.

percysunshine on December 3, 2012 at 6:44 PM

Oh, how sweetly smug!

We want them to. We want, with few exceptions, to give the Dems everything they petulantly demand.

then let’s see what happens. If the Dems are right, the worst thing is that we have to admit it. But if we’re right, the libs unprepared for what they voted for is going to hurt them seriously.

I, for one, SO want to see that happen.

Liam on December 3, 2012 at 6:49 PM

People voted for more government and they should pay for it. Let the Bush-tax-cuts expire for everybody. No more dont-worry-somebody-else-will-pay-for-that-bullsht!

Valkyriepundit on December 3, 2012 at 6:49 PM

Cut the purse strings. Make it sting.

Speakup on December 3, 2012 at 6:41 PM

This is the only answer. Stop paying salaries and shut down the government. And make sure that Hawaii vacation cannot be paid for.

riddick on December 3, 2012 at 6:50 PM

And make sure that Hawaii vacation cannot be paid for.

riddick on December 3, 2012 at 6:50 PM

Ooooh me likey

gophergirl on December 3, 2012 at 6:51 PM

Obama’s so dumb he took the Pepsi challenge and chose Jif.

Slade73 on December 3, 2012 at 6:51 PM

You can’t negotiate with an irrational spoiled brat throwing a hissy fit.

It’s time for the tone to change and for the GOP to inform the WH that they will not have any further discussion until Obama can find and adult somewhere in his administration who is willing to have an open discussion.

Wendya on December 3, 2012 at 6:52 PM

Chuck Schick on December 3, 2012 at 6:47 PM

You just hate lesbians and yer awful mean to stupid people…..

BigWyo on December 3, 2012 at 6:52 PM

kim roy on December 3, 2012 at 6:44 PM

Then we have to figure out a way to get the GOP “message” to “all the people”..:)

Dire Straits on December 3, 2012 at 6:53 PM

Then we have to figure out a way to get the GOP “message” to “all the people”..:)

Dire Straits on December 3, 2012 at 6:53 PM

That’s always been our problem – messaging

gophergirl on December 3, 2012 at 6:54 PM

Liam on December 3, 2012 at 6:35 PM

Yea, I sure am glad we’re going to have 4 more years of incompetence from the faux journalists at MSNBC. The MSN stands for misinformation. The BC should be BS.

scalleywag on December 3, 2012 at 6:55 PM

pass a couple bills in the House and go home; let the Senate and WH worry over it

burserker on December 3, 2012 at 6:55 PM

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