Quotes of the day

posted at 10:11 pm on December 3, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

House Republicans sent a counterproposal to avert the “fiscal cliff” to the White House on Monday outlining a $4.6 trillion deficit reduction proposal without raising tax rates on the wealthiest Americans.

The proposal is based on a framework outlined last year by former Clinton White House chief of staff Erskine Bowles, who co-chaired President Obama’s debt commission, and included an increase in the eligibility age for Medicare benefits. Republicans did not offer specific language on raising the age in their proposal Monday, but Bowles has publicly supported raising the age to 67.Obama and House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, also discussed gradually raising the Medicare eligibility age from 65 to 67 during their unsuccessful talks on deficit reduction in 2011.

“What we’re putting forth is a credible plan that deserves serious consideration by the White House and I would hope that they would respond in a timely and responsible way,” Boehner told reporters.

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The White House on Monday dismissed a Republican counteroffer to avert the so-called fiscal cliff as failing to “meet the test of balance” by resisting higher tax rates for the wealthy, a point that remains a key hurdle in the impasse over spending and revenues.

Dan Pfeiffer, the White House communications director, said in a statement that what congressional Republicans had billed as a “good-faith effort” to move toward compromise contained “nothing new” and offered no specifics on how they’d achieve revenue targets included in the plan.

“Until the Republicans in Congress are willing to get serious about asking the wealthiest to pay slightly higher tax rates, we won’t be able to achieve a significant, balanced approach to reduce our deficit,” Pfeiffer said in the statement, released two hours after details of the GOP offer emerged.

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“While I’m flattered the Speaker would call something ‘the Bowles plan,’ the approach outlined in the letter Speaker Boehner sent to the President does not represent the Simpson-Bowles plan, nor is it the Bowles plan,” Bowles said in a statement released by the Moment of Truth Project. “In my testimony before the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction, I simply took the mid-point of the public offers put forward during the negotiations to demonstrate where I thought a deal could be reached at that time. The Joint Select Committee failed to reach a deal, and circumstances have changed since then. It is up to negotiators to figure out where the middle ground is today.”

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House Speaker John Boehner is trying to call a mulligan. …

Bowles went on to outline what came to be known as the “Bowles plan.” Calling it a plan, though, is probably a bit generous: It was mostly an exercise in taking the Republican position and the Democratic position and dividing by two. …

… That’s the plan Boehner offered the White House on Monday. It’s progress. If you ignore the first nine paragraphs in his letter to President Obama — nine paragraphs in which he vents about the White House and rehashes the virtues of the Ryan budget — it’s a far more centrist proposal than anything Boehner has offered in public before now. But it’s essentially identical to what he offered in his talks with Obama, and to what Bowles offered Republicans during the supercommittee talks. Which is understandable. Those deals must be looking pretty good to Boehner about now.

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Republicans will cave on the question of raising the tax rate for the highest-income Americans. The only question is whether they do so before or after the government goes over the so-called fiscal cliff. …

The GOP moved an inch in that direction Monday. In a letter to President Obama, Speaker John Boehner and the House Republican leadership proposed $800 billion in new tax revenues, along with about $1.4 trillion in combined cuts to entitlements and discretionary spending. But the GOP still resisted any increase in tax rates, which they “continue to oppose and will not agree to.” …

Doing that would forestall the Democratic attack that the GOP will not bend on tax rates. Instead, it would be the president who’s not bending. Of course, Obama — and many in the media — would find other grounds to attack Republicans. But since the GOP is ultimately going to relent on the top tax rate, why not do it when it has some benefit?

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CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER: I heard what the Congressman (van Hollen) said and it is clear they are (Democrats) not serious at all about entitlements. which, as the president himself said, that is where the money is. On Social Security he denied that there’s any effect on the deficit at all. …

It’s surprising to me that the president, essentially, who could get revenues he wants from the deductions and exclusions, but insists on rates not for economic reasons but political. He wants to break the backs of Republicans. This is a continuation of his campaign. He thinks he is won it and now he wants to drive a stake through the Republicans. It’s all about the politics; it’s nothing about the economics.

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It could be the most awkward office Christmas party of the year.

With partisan debate over the “fiscal cliff” becoming more acrimonious by the day, President Obama will play host tonight to House Speaker John Boehner and members of Congress for the season’s first White House holiday reception. …

There are no planned meetings this week between Obama, Boehner or other key figures in the “fiscal cliff” negotiations. The sweeping package of automatic, across-the-board tax hikes and deep spending cuts will take effect in 29 days unless both sides reach a deal.

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Dire Straits on December 4, 2012 at 12:07 AM

“Winning” in today’s climate is even trickier than usual. No matter what happens Obama will be painted as a saint and the Republicans as villains. Sometimes I’m half way convinced that the nation really needs to suffer before they get a clue. But I don’t want to suffer. Obama is like yucky medicine with a long long aftertaste.

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 12:24 AM

My grandparents on both sides came from the Krakow area. When visiting there, I tried to respond a thank you in Polish in my anemic way to a postcard vendor who rattled off a series of words. When he realized that I was from the United States, he asked if I lived in Chicago. I had to laugh.

onlineanalyst on December 4, 2012 at 12:18 AM

When first came to America for an art scholarship, I lived in Chicago for about 8 months. When I returned home to Prague, everyone wanted to know if I had met Al Capone or Michael Jordan.

JPeterman on December 4, 2012 at 12:24 AM

I knew I could count on the Canadian and Cindy. :)

Midwestprincesse on December 4, 2012 at 12:25 AM

I was all like, “Dad, thanks for bail and everything. But I swear, she’s the one. I know it!”

And dad was all quiet for a minute, and then he said: “Son, I want you to stop bothering your sister at work.”

Axe on December 4, 2012 at 12:25 AM

Funny, I don’t see Barack Obama or Erick Holder’s names in that article anywhere.

SWalker on December 3, 2012 at 11:28 PM

Nope but sit down and grab your chair.
Right under that holiday surprise was another article about a possible quiet settlement between repubs and the injustice dept.re F&F. Don’t you just love the way DC works? Me too.

arnold ziffel on December 4, 2012 at 12:25 AM

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 12:22 AM

I don’t know what causes it but I have definitely seen it. Along with occasional message that I’m commenting to quickly. That one cracks me up.

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 12:26 AM

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 12:18 AM

.
Dang, I promise that wasn’t there when I typed my comment. You are so fast.

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 12:19 AM

.
Yes, canopfor is ! : )

listens2glenn on December 4, 2012 at 12:26 AM

I hope we see more about this tomorrow:

hey hey hey goodbye

“John Boehner is the Speaker of the House thanks to Tea Party and Constitutional conservatives. But instead of embracing the principles of the base that put him in power, he has purged anyone who doesn’t agree with his feckless leadership.

Speaker John A. Boehner initiated today a small purge of rebellious Republicans — mostly conservatives — from prominent committees; it’s the latest instance of the Ohio Republican’s clamping down on his fractious conference.”

kim roy on December 4, 2012 at 12:27 AM

Evening alt!! How’s things?

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Supposed to be in bed. Notice-I’m not. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on December 4, 2012 at 12:28 AM

Axe on December 4, 2012 at 12:11 AM

The Division is looking tough!!!

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 12:28 AM

Evening alt!! How’s things?

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 12:10 AM

.
Supposed to be in bed. Notice-I’m not. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on December 4, 2012 at 12:28 AM

.
Shame on you, young lady.

listens2glenn on December 4, 2012 at 12:29 AM

kim roy on December 4, 2012 at 12:27 AM

Yep, getting rid of conservatives is a great move, it has been such a winning strategy for the last four years.

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 12:30 AM

JPeterman on December 4, 2012 at 12:24 AM

When I went on my first honeymoon, me and Mr. Twerp the first went to Cape Cod. The waitress @ our hotel’s restaurant wanted to know if we had ever met Oprah.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 4, 2012 at 12:30 AM

Shame on you, young lady.

listens2glenn on December 4, 2012 at 12:29 AM

Even worse…I need to make his lunch.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 4, 2012 at 12:31 AM

Where in the hell is the carp??? If I understand correctly, American’s are not fond of carp.

JPeterman on December 3, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Since I like to make sure we learn something here everyday, this is something I found out last week.

Apparently European carp is pretty good quality. In America it is a different species and is nasty. Sort of like Obama.

arnold ziffel on December 4, 2012 at 12:31 AM

JPeterman on December 4, 2012 at 12:24 AM

.
When I went on my first honeymoon, me and Mr. Twerp the first went to Cape Cod. The waitress @ our hotel’s restaurant wanted to know if we had ever met Oprah.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 4, 2012 at 12:30 AM

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Well, did you?

listens2glenn on December 4, 2012 at 12:32 AM

Obama is like yucky medicine with a long long aftertaste.

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 12:24 AM

Cindy Munford:Yup,its an ObomaiNation!:)

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 12:32 AM

Shame on you, young lady.

listens2glenn on December 4, 2012 at 12:29 AM

.
Even worse…I need to make his lunch.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 4, 2012 at 12:31 AM

.
Then what are you doing socializing on the interweb for?

Chop, chop … get that man’s work-food together.
.
Good thing I’m here to nag you about it, huh?

listens2glenn on December 4, 2012 at 12:35 AM

It is going to get harder and harder to stand by the Speaker. How are Republicans different from Democrats? I forget.

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 12:36 AM

Well, did you?

listens2glenn on December 4, 2012 at 12:32 AM

No-but prior to our move(‘our’ being me and Mr.Twerp 2.0) to Texas, I had walked by her studio MANY times.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 4, 2012 at 12:37 AM

Alt: who can sleep eh?

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 12:37 AM

Good thing I’m here to nag you about it, huh?

listens2glenn on December 4, 2012 at 12:35 AM

Yenta, yenta, YENTA!

annoyinglittletwerp on December 4, 2012 at 12:37 AM

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 12:22 AM

I don’t know what causes it but I have definitely seen it. Along with occasional message that I’m commenting to quickly. That one cracks me up.

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Cindy Munford:

Lol,so true,I usually have a few choice words to say
when it happens!:)

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 12:37 AM

I knew I could count on the Canadian and Cindy. :)

Midwestprincesse on December 4, 2012 at 12:25 AM

Midwestprincesse:Anytime:)

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 12:38 AM

Question!

Anyone in California feel a 2.6
in…GREATER LOS ANGELES AREA, CALIFORNIA.

Near Long Beach!

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 12:40 AM

Apparently European carp is pretty good quality. In America it is a different species and is nasty. Sort of like Obama.

arnold ziffel on December 4, 2012 at 12:31 AM

Junk fish. :( I don’t understand it.

I say “White perch!” — and my family shouts back “Catfish!”

I shout “Shrimp!” and they shout back “Crawdads!”

I shout “O God, please deliver me!” — and my family shouts back “Quit Sinnin’!”

. . . I swear I was born for snobbery and a wife named “Buffi, with an ‘i’” — and the second I can manage it, I’m so there. Never take me wrong. It’s not about being better than anyone. I — I just want air conditioning — and to eat White Perch and never again anything I have to scoop from the bottom of a ditch.

Axe on December 4, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 12:24 AM

+ 100..Hear!..Hear!..I agree..:)

Dire Straits on December 4, 2012 at 12:42 AM

Local News:

Lawton police have been busy this year with an increase in crime.

2012 is on track to be a record breaking year for violent crimes in the City of Lawton.

Assaults, robberies and car thefts are all up and but Lawton Police officials say homicides have made the biggest jump.

Lawton had a total of ten homicides in 2011 but in as of October 2012, 16 homicides have been reported.

There were six homicides in the month of October alone.

Eight of the murders this year remain unsolved.

Police statistics show 1973 to be the deadliest year with 18 murders reported.

Since police started keeping track in 1972, the only year where zero murders were reported was 1977.

Lawton Police Captain Craig Akard says there is no particular reason that can be given for this spike in homicides.

Lawton Police Captain Craig Akard says there is no particular reason that can be given for this spike in homicides.

The police department is using all of its resources to curb the dangerous spike in violence.

“We’ve been making sure there’s more officers in patrol, on the street. We have, as far as the detectives go, we’ve started putting more detectives on the homicides themselves so we can get more resources actually working the homicides full time,” Akard says.

Akard says despite the rise in violent crime, the police department’s goal is to make Lawton a great place to live.

Other violent crimes like rape are down for 2012 and non-violent crimes like burglaries and larcenies have also decreased.

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 12:44 AM

I do hate to toot me countries horn,I`m sooooo proud,
in this current M.E climate,and btw,AMERICA should be
ahead of us,in the *Gold Standard*…*sigh*!
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Op-Ed: Canada refuses explicit criticism of Israeli settlement expansion
Dec 3 2012
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VIDEO:(Harper and Bi Bi)

Ottawa – While other strong allies of Israel, even the United States, have strongly condemned the Israeli plan to build 3,000 settler homes in east Jerusalem and the West Bank, Canada refused to directly criticize the plan.

The Jerusalem Post says that Canada is

the “gold standard” of support for Israel:

“There is not a government on the planet today more supportive of Israel than Harper’s Canada.”

Canada, together with the U.S. with only a few other countries voted against granting Palestine observer status at the U.N. While this marks Canada as one of the few supporters of Israel globally on this issue, Canada has now gone even further to show that it is globally number one as a supporter of Israel.(More….)
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http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/338264#ixzz2E3RQ565g

VIA
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https://twitter.com/search/%23Palestine

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 12:49 AM

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 12:44 AM

Where is Lawton and what do you think is the reason for this uptick in murders?

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 12:49 AM

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 12:49 AM

Y’all are definitely looking good in so many ways.

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 12:50 AM

Axe: Castle of Indolence…

Man is that a read! Tough going…

XXXII

Come on, my Muse, nor stoop to low Despair,
Thou Imp of Jove, touch’d by celestial Fire!
Thou yet shalt sing of War, and Actions fair,
Which the bold Sons of BRITAIN will inspire;
Of antient Bards thou yet shalt sweep the Lyre;
Thou yet shalt tread in Tragic Pall the Stage,
Paint Love’s enchanting Woes, the Heroe’s Ire,
The Sage’s Calm, the Patriot’s noble Rage,
Dashing Corruption down through every worthless Age.

Love this verse…

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 12:53 AM

. I swear I was born for snobbery and a wife named “Buffi, with an ‘i’” — and the second I can manage it, I’m so there. Never take me wrong. It’s not about being better than anyone. I — I just want air conditioning — and to eat White Perch and never again anything I have to scoop from the bottom of a ditch.

Axe on December 4, 2012 at 12:41 AM

I’m with you buddy but sometimes we just have to settle. Saw an ad last month for the beautiful new BMW 620 and checked it out. Only about 20K more than what I thought.

All in all I’m doing fine. What I resent is monthly bill paying time and all the fees tacked on for the “poor.” I always feel like I am on a chin up bar and just as I am doing fine, my fingers get peeled back. CA just raised taxes and the feds are making changes. Not good.

arnold ziffel on December 4, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Love this verse…

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Wow! Scrump!

Woo hoo!

Axe on December 4, 2012 at 12:54 AM

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 12:49 AM

In SW Oklahoma, most seems to be gang related… unfortunately…

It’s not a nice place to be right now…

We just had our second prayer march from one Apt complex to another where 2 murders happened…

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 12:54 AM

Where is Lawton and what do you think is the reason for this uptick in murders?

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 12:49 AM

I’m pretty sure it’s where the trajectory for all the gunfire in Oakland begins its downward curve….

(but it’s in Oklahoma, south of Ft. Sill, more likely.)

viking01 on December 4, 2012 at 12:55 AM

… not to make light of the great state of Oklahoma, of course, where I’ve traveled and hiked plenty.

Sad to hear of the violence and gang problems which now are a problem for many if not most towns and cities nowadays.

viking01 on December 4, 2012 at 12:57 AM

kim roy on December 4, 2012 at 12:27 AM

Got a error on that link. I heard Mark Levin discussing this tonight. I think idesign linked to it here:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/03/Boehner-GOP-leaders-purge-conservatives-from-powerful-House-committees//

I so wish there was a way to replace Boehner as Speaker!!

bluefox on December 4, 2012 at 12:58 AM

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 12:54 AM

It’s nice that you and your fellow citizens are doing something to show the community that you care.

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 12:59 AM

All in all I’m doing fine. What I resent is monthly bill paying time and all the fees tacked on for the “poor.” I always feel like I am on a chin up bar and just as I am doing fine, my fingers get peeled back. CA just raised taxes and the feds are making changes. Not good.

arnold ziffel on December 4, 2012 at 12:53 AM

One day, maybe we go fishing. :) And I’ll clean the perch and get it right; and after that, we sit in the AC and slap around the powers that be.

We call it “the day without taxes.”

Maybe send up a flag and let in anyone that wants a minute.

Axe on December 4, 2012 at 12:59 AM

Hark yonder beckons
Glance afar many furlongs
A glint of light blinds thine eye
adorn thy mask of despair
a shield of deceit preys upon squirrels
brethren rejoice as darkness falls
never more blind than now

SparkPlug on December 4, 2012 at 1:00 AM

XLVII
Thus, ardent, burst his Strain.
Thus, ardent, burst his Strain. “Ye hapless Race,
“Dire-labouring here to smother Reason’s Ray,
“That lights our Maker’s Image in our Face,
“And gives us wide o’er Earth unquestion’d Sway;
“What is TH’ ADOR’D SUPREME PERFECTION, say?
“What, but eternal never-resting Soul,
“Almighty Power, and all-directing Day;
“By whom each Atom stirs, the Planets roll;
“Who fills, surrounds, informs, and agitates the Whole?

Inspiring! I haven’t read such work in many a year…

I gratefully thank you for sharing!!

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 1:00 AM

It is going to get harder and harder to stand by the Speaker. How are Republicans different from Democrats? I forget.

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 12:36 AM

Cindy Munford:

And speaking of Finances,heres another worrisome ordeal
from a few days ago,with a new post,stating neither side
wants cuts!!!
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Defense Cuts No Longer Untouchable?
More U.S. Lawmakers Seem Willing To Trim DoD
Dec. 1, 2012 – 09:30AM
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http://www.defensenews.com/article/20121201/DEFREG02/312010001/Defense-Cuts-No-Longer-Untouchable-?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|s

House GOP Counters Obama Plan; Neither Side Proposes DoD Cuts
Dec. 3, 2012 – 05:12PM
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http://www.defensenews.com/article/20121203/DEFREG02/312030012/House-GOP-Counters-Obama-Plan-59-Neither-Side-Proposes-DoD-Cuts?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 1:01 AM

+ 100..Hear!..Hear!..I agree..:)

Dire Straits on December 4, 2012 at 12:42 AM

Dire
I made something for you. You won’t get to see it unfortunately, other than this photo. It will sell, possibly as soon as tomorrow morning, when it does, I will put your name on the care package for the troops that receive the package. If that’s okay with you. ; ) Plus, you need to have your eyes checked. I left you a message back on the 15th on QOTD. I don’t think you saw it. See you next year my friend. Enjoy your Family and the Season.

P.S. I think our friend Schadenfreude needs to have his eyes checked too. ; )

Bmore on December 4, 2012 at 1:01 AM

viking01 on December 4, 2012 at 12:55 AM

Isn’t it funny how the media (looking at you, Costas want to talk about the glorification of a gun culture but totally miss how sympathetic the media has been to gangs. To hear them talk, they are just kids in search of a family.

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Bmore on December 4, 2012 at 1:01 AM

I really am going to call you back. I am terrible about the phone.

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 1:02 AM

Hark yonder beckons
Glance afar many furlongs
A glint of light blinds thine eye
adorn thy mask of despair
a shield of deceit preys upon squirrels
brethren rejoice as darkness falls
never more blind than now

SparkPlug on December 4, 2012 at 1:00 AM

I Like This!! :-)

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 1:02 AM

behold, epiphany abounds in silent revelry
nonce upon ancient scrolls did revel
as chicken scratch tongue indecipherable
woe is we who can’t fathom the timelessness
of a never ending stream of hair spray

SparkPlug on December 4, 2012 at 1:03 AM

Plus, you need to have your eyes checked . . . I think our friend Schadenfreude needs to have his eyes checked too.

Bmore on December 4, 2012 at 1:01 AM

lol

*groan*

Axe on December 4, 2012 at 1:03 AM

I have total, unswerving, ironclad faith that Boehner will screw the pooch. There are few things you can count on with as much certainty in this world today as Republican stupidity and cravenness.

rrpjr on December 4, 2012 at 1:03 AM

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 12:49 AM

That is awesome and glad to hear it. I’m sure Israel is too!!!

bluefox on December 4, 2012 at 1:03 AM

rrpjr on December 4, 2012 at 1:03 AM

You saw that he is kicking conservatives off committees didn’t you? If they won’t vote with him, they are gone. Whatever Obama has is catching.

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 1:06 AM

SparkPlug on December 4, 2012 at 1:00 AM

I Like This!! :-)

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 1:02 AM

Thanks. I knew you would wallow in the purity of a truth untarnished by Time’s swift charioteer who yoked together twin beasts grunting as they stride sky bound into the heavens.

SparkPlug on December 4, 2012 at 1:06 AM

SparkPlug on December 4, 2012 at 1:03 AM

Deep, very deep.

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 1:07 AM

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 12:49 AM

Y’all are definitely looking good in so many ways.

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 12:50 AM

Cindy Munford:Yup,and, Clinton,and now Hopey,and four more years of
negatism for America,…le ugh!:)

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Bmore on December 4, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Love your work!! I want one!! Will be in touch…

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 1:02 AM

I understand. I’m not much for phones myself. You don’t have to feel obligated to. I was just glad to hear your voice. You made me feel better. xo

Axe on December 4, 2012 at 1:03 AM

Get yours checked too. I am nearly done reading that poem you posted. Long one that. I’ll need to get my scrip redone by the time I finish that one. ; )

Bmore on December 4, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Hark, celestial Grypons stand motionless
atop structures erected by the mind
cracks and fissures do make for a splintery facade
while desolation rules a formless epoch

SparkPlug on December 4, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Costas and his low-IQ ilk are always last to blame the junk culture and first to blame inanimate objects. If Belcher had pushed a boulder down a hill to effect the murder the phony Costas would be on his Al-$harpton-approved bullhorn calling to ban boulders and hills.

viking01 on December 4, 2012 at 1:10 AM

behold, epiphany abounds in silent revelry
nonce upon ancient scrolls did revel
as chicken scratch tongue indecipherable
woe is we who can’t fathom the timelessness
of a never ending stream of hair spray

SparkPlug on December 4, 2012 at 1:03 AM

quaint… you have a way with words :-)

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 1:11 AM

Bmore on December 4, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Never an obligation, always a privilege.

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 1:12 AM

I gratefully thank you for sharing!!

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 1:00 AM

You don’t know how gratifying it is to know you are reading it and getting the stuff in there out of there. :) I really think it’s worth it. And I’m happy you like it!

Gets a little grim from there though . . .

Axe on December 4, 2012 at 1:12 AM

I have total, unswerving, ironclad faith that Boehner will screw the pooch.

rrpjr on December 4, 2012 at 1:03 AM

Worse yet, the pooch will have pictures….

viking01 on December 4, 2012 at 1:12 AM

Ok BMore is the coolest guy ever. Those whirligigs are amazing.

SparkPlug on December 4, 2012 at 1:13 AM

Axe on December 4, 2012 at 1:12 AM

Yes it does, and makes one have to really think!

I shall re-read it many times…

Went thru it kinda hastily first time, but it deserves much thought.

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 1:15 AM

Get yours checked too. I am nearly done reading that poem you posted. Long one that. I’ll need to get my scrip redone by the time I finish that one. ; )

Bmore on December 4, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Flashback:

Bmore:
You really need to get your eyes checked.
Axe:
What?
Bmore:
You need to read more closely. And get some glasses.
Axe:
WHAT?
Bmore:
You are like a guy whose glasses fell into the lake — lean over and get really close — maybe you’ll see them.
Axe:
WHAT!

Axe on December 4, 2012 at 1:15 AM

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 12:49 AM

That is awesome and glad to hear it. I’m sure Israel is too!!!

bluefox on December 4, 2012 at 1:03 AM

bluefox:

You bet,I think,what the Jewish people went through in WW2,
still has our Country,vigilant and sensitive to that,I think!:)

And,now its Down Under,in calling in the Isreal Ambassdor!

Australia calls in Israeli ambassador to protest settlements plan – @Reuters

26 mins ago from http://www.reuters.com by editor

CANBERRA | Tue Dec 4, 2012 12:29am EST

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/04/us-palestinians-israel-australia-idUSBRE8B306X20121204

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 1:15 AM

SparkPlug on December 4, 2012 at 1:13 AM

Aren’t they!!

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 1:15 AM

viking01 on December 4, 2012 at 1:10 AM

I think we probably started our downhill slide when the media decided that instead of informing, they would enlighten us. We have so much to thank them for and I mean that with as much sarcasm as can be heaped on it.

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 1:16 AM

Axe on December 4, 2012 at 1:15 AM

Seems like a hearing problem to me.

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 1:17 AM

Bmore, my eyes are very good.

Roger

Schadenfreude on December 4, 2012 at 1:18 AM

Get yours checked too. I am nearly done reading that poem you posted. Long one that. I’ll need to get my scrip redone by the time I finish that one. ; )

Bmore on December 4, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Bmore:

Your back,you must tell me all about your escape to
Ban-Hammer Island:)

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 1:18 AM

Hark, celestial Grypons stand motionless
atop structures erected by the mind
cracks and fissures do make for a splintery facade
while desolation rules a formless epoch

SparkPlug on December 4, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Celestial Gryphons standing motionless atop structures erected by the mind, complete with cracks and fissures that make a splintery facade, quite literally while desolation rules a formless epoch:

I kid not even a little.

Axe on December 4, 2012 at 1:19 AM

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 1:16 AM

The natural progression from the communists running Hollyweird to the communists running the Old Media. McCarthy and J. Edgar Hoover may have had their faults but knowing who the communists were and the malignant danger they posed to Liberty weren’t two of them.

viking01 on December 4, 2012 at 1:20 AM

FISCAL CLIFF Topic,talking now on Coast!

http://tunein.com/radio/Coast-to-Coast-AM-p35675/

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 1:20 AM

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 1:18 AM

He didn’t go to Ban-Hammer Island, he was just playing.

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 1:21 AM

Seems like a hearing problem to me.

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 1:17 AM

LOL

Axe on December 4, 2012 at 1:21 AM

Axe on December 4, 2012 at 1:21 AM

Where did you find such a work?

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 1:22 AM

viking01 on December 4, 2012 at 1:20 AM

Yep, now it’s a good thing and the young don’t even know what it means. They would probably think it sounds good to them anyway. History is relative. /

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 1:23 AM

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 1:20 AM

Listening!! Thanks :-)

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 1:23 AM

I’m calling it a night, folks. It was lovely to stay awake to visit with you, seems like a long long time since I’ve done it. Sweet dreams.

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 1:24 AM

when the media decided that instead of informing, they would enlighten us

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 1:16 AM

I think that might be perfect.

Axe on December 4, 2012 at 1:24 AM

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 1:18 AM

He didn’t go to Ban-Hammer Island, he was just playing.

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 1:21 AM

Cindy Munford:Thank-Gawd,

now that is going to be a spot,in the H/A Hall of Fame,
in the Prankster Division,haha!:)

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 1:25 AM

I’m calling it a night, folks. It was lovely to stay awake to visit with you, seems like a long long time since I’ve done it. Sweet dreams.

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 1:24 AM

Night Excellent Cindy Munford. :)

Axe on December 4, 2012 at 1:25 AM

Axe: I have read many many poets, I don’t remember ever reading James Thomsons works, I feel sure I would have…

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 1:28 AM

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 1:20 AM

Listening!! Thanks :-)

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 1:23 AM

Scrumpy:Heres the Home page:)
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http://tunein.com/

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 1:28 AM

Scrumpy on December 3, 2012 at 11:54 PM

It’s a good thing I don’t do text messaging. Can’t investigate me for something I haven’t done.

chemman on December 4, 2012 at 1:28 AM

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 1:24 AM

Good night to you too!!

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 1:29 AM

I’m calling it a night, folks. It was lovely to stay awake to visit with you, seems like a long long time since I’ve done it. Sweet dreams.

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 1:24 AM

Cindy Munford:Night Cindy…(Sweet Dreams)..back at cha:)

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 1:30 AM

I think we probably started our downhill slide when the media decided that instead of informing, they would enlighten us. We have so much to thank them for and I mean that with as much sarcasm as can be heaped on it.

Cindy Munford on December 4, 2012 at 1:16 AM

That would be 1963 when they changed what was taught in Schools of Journalism from the facts, nothing but the facts to we need to interpret the facts because Americans aren’t smart enough to do it for themselves.

chemman on December 4, 2012 at 1:30 AM

chemman on December 4, 2012 at 1:28 AM

Lol, you need to refer to Sparkplug for that! Not me!!

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 1:32 AM

The night beckons me to slumber…

Good Night all!!

God Bless!!

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 1:38 AM

Axe: I have read many many poets, I don’t remember ever reading James Thomsons works, I feel sure I would have…

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 1:28 AM

Where did you find such a work? [Borderland]

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 1:22 AM

Yeah, you would have. Where he’s read, he’s read for his Seasons.

How, etc? They form a web. If you are into it, now that you’ve read The Castle of Indolence, go back and read The Legend of Sleepy Hollow. Irving quotes from The Castle of Indolence in his front matter. It will be a completely different story now that you will recognize Irving’s allusions.

Similar thing with Keats’ The Eve of St. Agnes and Poe’s The Fall of the House of Usher. Eve was also well read once, fallen into disrepair (not as much as Indolence).

The path to The House on the Borderland — which Spark described creepily well if he’s never read it — is similar. It’s just connected. :)

Axe on December 4, 2012 at 1:40 AM

God Bless!!

Scrumpy on December 4, 2012 at 1:38 AM

Night Scrump!

Axe on December 4, 2012 at 1:40 AM

Otay,I’m next,its been a blast,GoodNight Everyone,
and heres a Heads-Up,that has been in the news…
…———————:)

I’m wonder if Obama,is going to pull,a Diversion,and,
I thought the Liberals needed evidence of WMD,like as
in Iraq!!
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Obama warns Syria’s Assad that the use of chemical weapons would be unacceptable, ‘there will be consequences’ if used – @Reuters

8 hours ago from http://www.reuters.com by editor
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WASHINGTON | Mon Dec 3, 2012 4:44pm EST

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/03/us-usa-syrian-obama-warning-idUSBRE8B21C320121203
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canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 1:44 AM

Ugh,stupid post went somewhere,try dis again,

Otay,I’m out too Night Everyone,
Night Scrumpy,Axe,anyone else I missed!–:)

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 1:47 AM

Wonder what Boehner’s got thumping around his mind. Really. You pop around HA threads, you’ve got historical analysis of the press, some serious literature discussions, history, philosophy, religion, economics.

Why do I get the impression that these extremely well educated men and women steering our boat are more like low-information voters inside than average HA posters and commenters?

‘Cause they act like it, that’s who.

Axe on December 4, 2012 at 1:47 AM

Night Scrumpy,Axe,anyone else I missed!–:)

canopfor on December 4, 2012 at 1:47 AM

Night Canada! Watch for Eskimos. They steal your skins and stuff, and raid your fridge while you sleep.

Axe on December 4, 2012 at 1:49 AM

and raid your fridge while you sleep.

Axe on December 4, 2012 at 1:49 AM

I thought they slept in the fridge to keep warm… o_O

SWalker on December 4, 2012 at 1:51 AM

I thought they slept in the fridge to keep warm… o_O

SWalker on December 4, 2012 at 1:51 AM

I had one, something about leaving the toilet seat up, but I couldn’t get it to work. :)

Axe on December 4, 2012 at 1:55 AM

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