UN votes to recognize Palestine as non-member state

posted at 8:31 pm on November 29, 2012 by Allahpundit

This has more to do with Palestinian infighting than it does with Israel, and it’s highly likely to backfire. Which means it’s no different from 90 percent of Palestinian political gambits.

You know the UN motto: You can never have too many Israel-hating pro-terrorist states.

[T]he vote offered a showcase for an extraordinary international lineup of support for the Palestinians and constituted a deeply symbolic achievement for their cause, made even weightier by arriving on the 65th anniversary of the General Assembly vote that divided the former British Mandate of Palestine into two states, one Jewish and the other Arab — a vote that Israel considers the international seal of approval for its birth…

A major concern for the Americans is that the Palestinians might use their new status to try to join the International Criminal Court. That prospect particularly worries the Israelis, who fear that the Palestinians might press for an investigation of their practices in the occupied territories.

Another worry is that the Palestinians might use the vote to seek membership in specialized agencies of the United Nations, a move that could have consequences for the financing of the international organizations as well as the Palestinian Authority itself. Congress cut off financing to the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization, also known as Unesco, in 2011 after it accepted Palestine as a member. The United States is a major contributor to many of these agencies and plays an active role on their governing boards.

The vote was 138-9 with 41 abstentions, and it was indeed the 65th anniversary of Arabs deciding that a Jewish state alongside a Palestinian one was a casus belli, not a “diplomatic solution.” So why’d they do it? Because, with his pal Mubarak swept away by the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas enjoying a new shot of jihadi cred from its latest glorious futile skirmish with Israel, Mahmoud Abbas is a forgotten man in the Middle East. He’ll take this back to the West Bank as proof of his stature, which is one of the reasons why some western nations voted for statehood (or abstained). They’re handing him a counterweight, in theory, against Hamas in the battle for Palestinian legitimacy. Just one problem: Who’s going to explain to the Palestinians back home that tonight’s vote achieved little more than the right to join UNESCO? Susan Rice, who’s celebrating her latest diplomatic “victory” this evening, at least made some sense afterward:

Today’s grand pronouncements will soon fade. And the Palestinian people will wake up tomorrow and find that little about their lives has changed, save that the prospects of a durable peace have only receded…

[T]oday’s vote should not be misconstrued by any as constituting eligibility for U.N. membership. It does not. This resolution does not establish that Palestine is a state.

The United States believes the current resolution should not and cannot be read as establishing terms of reference. In many respects, the resolution prejudges the very issues it says are to be resolved through negotiation, particularly with respect to territory. At the same time, it virtually ignores other core questions such as security, which must be solved for any viable agreement to be achieved.

Judging from the amount of celebrating in Ramallah tonight, Palestinians are verrry excited about their new status. How do you suppose Abbas’s stature will fare when they come to realize that nothing much is different, especially when Hamas starts demagoging his failure as proof that jihad and intifada are the only paths? There’s already some stirring in Congress to cut aid to the Palestinian Authority as punishment for today’s ploy; even if Congress maintains the aid for now, it’s sure to disappear if/when Abbas sues Israel in the International Criminal Court over alleged war crimes — or, more likely, settlements — which he’ll now be under tremendous domestic pressure to do. So instead of a nonexistent peace process between Israel and the PA, soon we’ll be back to spiraling hostility between the two. And if you’re a Palestinian facing spiraling hostility with Israel, why would you prefer Abbas to Hamas? (For just that reason, Israel’s already backing away from threats to impose sanctions on the West Bank for today’s UN vote. Abbas has enough problems vis-a-vis Hamas that Netanyahu will be cautious about adding to them.)

Long story short, Muslim regimes and the international left will soon have a new diplomatic tool with which to try to delegitimize Israel and the Palestinian project of ending the Zionist dream will continue to go nowhere. I read somewhere recently that O might want to try a new push for Israeli/Palestinian peace in his second term in the interest of legacy-building. That was always an exceedingly heavy lift, but given the fact that Netanyahu won’t want to reward today’s vote by restarting negotiations in the wake of it, it just got a bit heavier. Smart thinking, Abbas. Here’s Hillary at a presser yesterday. Skip to 6:00.


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Just go back to Jordan already.

ThePrez on November 29, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Judging from the amount of celebrating in Ramallah tonight, Palestinians are verrry excited about their new status.

These are the same pinheads who get excited when one of their own slaughters a dozen Israeli schoolkids, they don’t even know what they’re cheering about half the time other than it’s some sort of perceived slight against the Zionist Entity. You would get the same reaction if you threw a pile of oranges into the monkey exhibit at the zoo.

Bishop on November 29, 2012 at 8:38 PM

O might want to try a new push for Israeli/Palestinian peace in his second term in the interest of legacy-building.

That would be ‘heavy lifting’. That’s not one of Barry’s strong points. Maybe he should try campaigning in Gaza.

GarandFan on November 29, 2012 at 8:39 PM

No more aid to the PA, no more aid to the U.N. and especially no more aid to Egypt..Pakistan’s aid should be on the table too…these people don’t like us, never will..no amount of $ will change it..no more

sadsushi on November 29, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Here’s a wacky idea. How about if the Palestinians get all of their aid from the 138 countries who supposedly support them, and do without aid from the United States?

J.S.K. on November 29, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Who’s going to explain to the Palestinians back home that tonight’s vote achieved little more than the right to join UNESCO?

Hey, don’t you belittle that achievement.

That smoking crater that was once a Jewish-frequented marketplace deserves special recognition in our global books.

KingGold on November 29, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Just move the embassy to Jerusalem already.

DaveO on November 29, 2012 at 8:43 PM

MS St. Louis (Voyage of the Damned) will now be welcome in Canada, now and forever.

Lets hope it never has to be launched again but with this vote the passenger list is one step closer to being written.

tjexcite on November 29, 2012 at 8:44 PM

UN votes to recognize Palestine as non-member state

Well hell, looks like the entire world is bound and determent to run smack into a wall at 120 miles per hour, not just America.

SWalker on November 29, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Just go back to Jordan already.

ThePrez on November 29, 2012 at 8:36 PM

.
Syria, actually.

listens2glenn on November 29, 2012 at 8:46 PM

Palestinians have no interest in peace. There will be no peace until funding for Palestinians is significantly curtailed. Palestinians do not deserve a homeland until they recognize Israel’s right to exist.

Basilsbest on November 29, 2012 at 8:47 PM

This will not end well.

dczombie on November 29, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Palestine will NEVER have a functional autonomous government.

listens2glenn on November 29, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Nothing is changed.

Liam on November 29, 2012 at 8:48 PM

I AM Proud of Canada….but um,…

States??

Israel, US, Canada among 9 states that voted against Palestinian UN upgrade – @AP

2 hours ago from bigstory.ap.org by editor

canopfor on November 29, 2012 at 8:52 PM

That prospect particularly worries the Israelis, who fear that the Palestinians might press for an investigation of their practices in the occupied territories.

Says who?

Israel doesn’t recognize the jurisdiction of the ICC and frankly I don’t see the EU putting together some kind of snatch squad to try Israeli leaders for purported war crimes.

CorporatePiggy on November 29, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Every one of those celebrating jackwads is going to wake up early tomorrow as if Ol’ Saint Mohammed left something under the Ramadan tree, run to the window expecting to see orchards, paved roads, and modern infrastructure, and their hopes will be utterly dashed.

The problem with Gaza isn’t the land, it’s the people.

Bishop on November 29, 2012 at 8:52 PM

So, according to the UN, the next rocket attack into Israel will officially constitute an ACT OF WAR, toward which Israel may then respond appropriately.

Sorry but I don’t see the down side to this.

logis on November 29, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Watch Republicans step on the Constitution just like Democrats:

http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN2/

dom89031 on November 29, 2012 at 8:56 PM

UN JihadyGoon State Thingy!

Distr.: Limited
26 November 2012

Sixty-seventh session
Agenda item 37
Question of Palestine

Afghanistan, Algeria, Argentina, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bolivia (Plurinational
State of), Brazil, Brunei Darussalam, Chile, China, Comoros, Cuba, Democratic
People’s Republic of Korea, Djibouti, Ecuador, Egypt, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana,
Iceland, India, Indonesia, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kuwait, Lao
People’s Democratic Republic, Lebanon, Libya, Madagascar, Malaysia, Maldives,
Mali, Mauritania, Morocco, Namibia, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Peru,
Qatar, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Seychelles,
Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Africa, Sudan, Tajikistan, Tunisia, Turkey, United
Arab Emirates, Uruguay, Venezuela (Bolivarian Republic of), Yemen, Zimbabwe
and Palestine: draft resolution

Status of Palestine in the United Nations

http://www.un.org/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=A/67/L.28

canopfor on November 29, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Why do we fund our enemies?

Mr. Arrogant on November 29, 2012 at 8:57 PM

listens2glenn on November 29, 2012 at 8:46 PM

Nah, Syria`s kinda in a bad place right now…….. Well, the Pals might enjoy the constant death and mayhem, so I guess you`re right. :)

ThePrez on November 29, 2012 at 8:59 PM

TWITTER:

Results for #Palestine
Related: #israel, #palestine194, #gaza
Top news
@UN misfires tweet on one-state solution

The UN tweets an ill-timed typo ahead of the General Assembly’s vote on Palestine.

stream.aljazeera.com/story/un-misfi…

https://twitter.com/search/%23Palestine

canopfor on November 29, 2012 at 8:59 PM

So, according to the UN, the next rocket attack into Israel will officially constitute an ACT OF WAR, toward which Israel may then respond appropriately.

logis on November 29, 2012 at 8:55 PM

.
Good point.

But the UN will still figure a way to blame Israel.

listens2glenn on November 29, 2012 at 9:00 PM

So,like,is Israel suppose to pack up,or share the capitol of
Israel…………………………….

Abbas: We will continue popular peaceful resistance … until Palestinian state with Jerusalem as capital, 1967 borders – @mozgovaya

4 hours ago by editor

https://twitter.com/mozgovaya

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/palestine-statehood-bid-2012

canopfor on November 29, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Meanwhile back at Jihady Rocket-Firing Goon Lands,
they have reached a startling conclusion….(sarc)

Natasha Mozgovaya ‏@mozgovaya

Palestinian PM Salam Fayyad now in DC: “Here we are, 65 years later, still looking for our state” pic.twitter.com/9JgPNrPK

https://twitter.com/mozgovaya/status/274331337303941120/photo/1

VIA:
===

Natasha Mozgovaya
@mozgovaya

Haaretz Chief U.S. Correspondent; tweeting about US/Mideast and beyond. RT not an endorsement. Some photos from everywhere http://public.fotki.com/mozgovaya/

Washington · http://www.haaretz.com/mozgovaya

https://twitter.com/mozgovaya

canopfor on November 29, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Who cares what the UN thinks about anything anyway. It is nothing but a mouthpiece for both rich Western neo-imperalists and for third world victim-mentality trash.

Two factions of douchebags arguing with each other. China and Russia are the ones who have it right. Never introducing anything and vetoing most stuff that anybody else tries to pass.

Ever played Civ? Even in that you get a good feel for what a bunch of nosy tools a UN-style organization is.

And also this stupid little dispute is between “Palestine” and “Israel”. Why should anyone outside of it care? I’m sick of the attention they receive for their retarded little conflict. They are troll countries.

Daikokuco on November 29, 2012 at 9:17 PM

Da Yes/NO List:

muhd hidayat azman ‏@heno_henomoheji

Malaysia voted YES! “@UN_PGA: See which country voted for the #UNbid #Palestine @UN pic.twitter.com/KmiOT0iW”

https://twitter.com/UN_PGA/status/274276290993983488/photo/1

canopfor on November 29, 2012 at 9:20 PM

These are the same pinheads who get excited when one of their own slaughters a dozen Israeli schoolkids, they don’t even know what they’re cheering about half the time other than it’s some sort of perceived slight against the Zionist Entity. You would get the same reaction if you threw a pile of oranges into the monkey exhibit at the zoo.

Bishop on November 29, 2012 at 8:38 PM

And guess who will now file lawsuit after lawsuit against Israel in EU courts?

This will end sooner than we all think, IMO. And UN won’t be able to do much in the process.

riddick on November 29, 2012 at 9:21 PM

And the stupid Liberal Comment(ers)

LOL…..as if there ever was seperation of the GOONS!

ProudLib ‏@jewdocrat

I have to say, I’m glad it was #Abbas being granted statehood, rather than the thugs, better known as #Hamas. #palestine

https://twitter.com/search/%23Palestine

canopfor on November 29, 2012 at 9:25 PM

Just go back to Jordan already.

ThePrez on November 29, 2012 at 8:36 PM

.
Syria, actually.

listens2glenn on November 29, 2012 at 8:46 PM

As much as I appreciate Beck’s knowledge and historical facts in general, he is wrong on this one. Most of those who we call “palestinians” these days are the product of British Empire’s “relocation services” after they divided ME into multiple states. At the time Brits forced mass migration of kurds and others from mostly what is Iraq today to Israel’s territory.

Main reason I have been saying for along time that Israel should put all the “palestinians” on ships and drop them off in London. Brits created this mess, they should take care of it.

Easy solution.

riddick on November 29, 2012 at 9:34 PM

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How do you suppose Abbas’s stature will fare when they come to realize that nothing much is different, especially when Hamas starts demagoging his failure as proof that jihad and intifada are the only paths?

The reason why it was and is supported around the world was
to show a non violent act can bring progress and politics can work.
But you want to undermine this as a failure.
If this non violent act is such a failure,why the threats and anger?

The vote was 138-9 with 41 abstentions ,it’s democracy but the response here is to underplay it and hope that the only option Palestinians have is violence.

mags on November 29, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Palestinians………biggest hoax of the last 70 years!!!

…..and THAT is saying something.

They are frigging Jordanian scum that King Hussein wanted out of his own country.

PappyD61 on November 29, 2012 at 9:41 PM

“High level meeting”

Clinton diplomatic dog whistle for “We told this pissy little group what we want them to do, and she said yeses, boss.”

PappyD61 on November 29, 2012 at 9:44 PM

The reason why it was and is supported around the world was
to show a non violent act can bring progress and politics can work.
But you want to undermine this as a failure.
If this non violent act is such a failure,why the threats and anger?

The vote was 138-9 with 41 abstentions ,it’s democracy but the response here is to underplay it and hope that the only option Palestinians have is violence.

mags on November 29, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Another communist just showed up.

Just how many registered last round?

riddick on November 29, 2012 at 9:49 PM

For those who don’t want to hit the list, here are the nations that voted against:

Israel
USA
Canada
Czech Republic
Panama – WTH?
Nauru
Marshall Islands
Micronesia
Palau

Remember these places when you decide to book a trip.

UODuckMan on November 29, 2012 at 11:53 PM

IMO, Israel should defy the UN, and give the PLO a thirty day eviction notice. Tell them you’ve decided to keep the West Bank for your own reasons.

byteshredder on November 29, 2012 at 11:58 PM

The United Nations is an international organization founded in 1945 after the Second World War by 51 countries committed to maintaining international peace and security, developing friendly relations among nations and promoting social progress, better living standards and human rights.

The UN has 4 main purposes
To keep peace throughout the world;
To develop friendly relations among nations;
To help nations work together to improve the lives of poor people, to conquer hunger, disease and illiteracy, and to encourage respect for each other’s rights and freedoms;
To be a centre for harmonizing the actions of nations to achieve these goals.

http://www.un.org/en/aboutun/languages.shtml/

(Had to go refresh my memory, figured I’d share. :)

Axe on November 30, 2012 at 12:06 AM

Google USS Liberty.

RightXBrigade on November 30, 2012 at 6:31 AM

Google USS Liberty.

RightXBrigade on November 30, 2012 at 6:31 AM

Google “friendly fire”.

J.S.K. on November 30, 2012 at 11:27 AM

UN votes to recognize Palestine as non-member state

Not sure if it’s even allowed, but can we trade statuses with them..?

affenhauer on November 30, 2012 at 11:40 AM

CorporatePiggy on November 29, 2012 at 8:52 PM

It may restrict travel for some Israeli officials. They could be taken in to custody if they fly to or from the wrong airport, for example.

MJBrutus on November 30, 2012 at 5:26 PM

Google “friendly fire”.

J.S.K. on November 30, 2012 at 11:27 AM

Keep being a shill for a foreign power. I’ll stick with my countrymen.

RightXBrigade on December 1, 2012 at 7:42 AM