However, thanks to Western insistence on holding quick elections in the wake of Hosni Mubarak’s forced departure, the only political parties organized well enough for national elections are the Muslim Brotherhood and its allies

BS. That’s not “thanks to the West”, that’s “thanks to Hosni Mubarak, who made sure that the Islamists were the only organized political group that wasn’t crushed by the government.”

Leaving him, or any of his cronies, in charge would be rewarding the people who gave the Islamists their power in the first place.

No way.

And Moses and Aaron did so, as the Lord commanded; and he lifted up the rod and smote the waters that were in the river, in the site of Pharaoh, and in the site of his servants; and all the waters that were in the river were turned to blood.

And the fish that was in the river died; and the river stank; and the Egyptians could not drink of the water of the river; and there was blood throughout all the land of Egypt.

Exodus 7:19-21

SWalker on November 29, 2012 at 11:26 AM

to make the dream perfect, you should have included the part in which we deport local Muslims back to their camel dung-eating homelands.

Archivarix on November 29, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Well, you know, every really great plan needs a few minor tweaks made to it… ;)

I totally agree, except for the whole waiting thing. Why wait for the inevitable? Pull our people out and any non Muslims that want to leave, refuse to allow any Muslim to leave, then send all the remaining Muslim to their desired reward with Allah. It’s a win-win for everybody.

SWalker on November 29, 2012 at 11:26 AM

to make the dream perfect, you should have included the part in which we deport local Muslims back to their camel dung-eating homelands.

Egypt has merely been a practice run for Owebama. He wants to know which pitfalls to avoid if possible.

katablog.com on November 29, 2012 at 11:28 AM

I thought Honduras in 2009 was a good enough dry run for him.

SWalker on November 29, 2012 at 11:13 AM

I think we should pull our troops out of that whole area, along with any non muslims who want to leave. Then tell them the next time they commit an act of terror against us or our allies, we will nuke them out of existence. Caliphate, my butt.

Night Owl on November 29, 2012 at 11:23 AM

I totally agree, except for the whole waiting thing. Why wait for the inevitable? Pull our people out and any non Muslims that want to leave, refuse to allow any Muslim to leave, then send all the remaining Muslim to their desired reward with Allah. It’s a win-win for everybody.

SWalker on November 29, 2012 at 11:05 AM

From the MB viewpoint, you are right on. That is exactly what they are thinking.
However, IIRC the actual election of Morsi was pretty close. Nearly half the Egyptian population voted against him and they stand to be pretty pissed even as we speak. Add in those that might be offended by this new constitution ( women hit pretty hard ) and you’ll have a pretty potent opposition to the MB.
Lots of folks there took the right to vote seriously. I do not think they are willing to give it up so quickly.

Point I am trying to make is that Egypt will be a violent place for next six months as this is literally fought over.

Jabberwock on November 29, 2012 at 11:17 AM

And the point I am making is that you misunderstand the Islamic mindset. Even the half that voted against Morsi hold the same view of Democracy, they didn’t vote against Morsi because they believe in real Democracy, but because Morsi wasn’t their flavor of Islamic Caliph…

Agree!! Enough already…

Scrumpy on November 29, 2012 at 11:10 AM

SWalker on November 29, 2012 at 11:13 AM

I think we should pull our troops out of that whole area, along with any non muslims who want to leave. Then tell them the next time they commit an act of terror against us or our allies, we will nuke them out of existence. Caliphate, my butt.

However, thanks to Western insistence on holding quick elections in the wake of Hosni Mubarak’s forced departure, the only political parties organized well enough for national elections are the Muslim Brotherhood and its allies.

That isn’t the case. Egypt has a number of powerful factions and Mursi’s recent decree has served to unite them and they have a pretty good chance of blocking the MB parties in a national referendum.

They are Muslims, so the answer is obviously no, no they do not. More importantly, they do not care, they only pretend to want Democracy because it allows them to milk the US out of hundreds of Billions of dollars.

SWalker on November 29, 2012 at 11:05 AM

From the MB viewpoint, you are right on. That is exactly what they are thinking.
However, IIRC the actual election of Morsi was pretty close. Nearly half the Egyptian population voted against him and they stand to be pretty pissed even as we speak. Add in those that might be offended by this new constitution ( women hit pretty hard ) and you’ll have a pretty potent opposition to the MB.
Lots of folks there took the right to vote seriously. I do not think they are willing to give it up so quickly.

Point I am trying to make is that Egypt will be a violent place for next six months as this is literally fought over.

Night Owl on November 29, 2012 at 11:09 AM

Agree!! Enough already…

Scrumpy on November 29, 2012 at 11:10 AM

I say we should provide every Muslim Brotherhood nation nuclear weapons… Delivered via ICBM… Sunlight is after all, still the best disinfectant. Even if it is man made sunlight…

*In a country where the citizens are unarmed.

Agree!! Enough already…

Anyone deemed a ‘freedom’ lover will be done away with…

Nov 29 (Reuters) – An assembly drafting Egypt’s new constitution voted on Thursday to keep the principles of Islamic law as the main source of legislation, unchanged from the previous constitution in force under former President Hosni Mubarak.

The issue was the subject of a long dispute between hardline Salafi Islamists and liberals in the assembly which will vote on each of 234 articles in the draft constitution before it is sent to President Mohamed Mursi for approval.

After that, Mursi must put it to a popular referendum.

The Muslim Brotherhood, the Islamist group that nominated Mursi for the presidency, hopes that quick approval of the constitution will help end a crisis ignited by a decree that expanded his powers.

While Article Two of the constitution – describing the source of legislation – stays the same, the constitution includes new provisions explaining what is meant by “the principles” of Islamic law, known as sharia.

The assembly also approved a new article that states that Al-Azhar, a seat of Sunni Muslim learning, must be consulted on “matters related to the Islamic sharia”….

The process has been plagued by disputes between the Islamists who dominate the body writing the constitution and secular-minded parties who say the Muslim Brotherhood and its allies have marginalised them in the process.

Prominent assembly members including former Arab League Secretary General Amr Moussa have withdrawn from the assembly, as have representatives of Egypt’s Coptic Church.

H/T JihadWatch

Most important constitutional question du jour: when will they finally start killing each other? We have plenty of weapons to sell to both sides!

Archivarix on November 29, 2012 at 10:58 AM

You have summed up my Middle East Policy. There are no good guys anywhere over there, and I do not want to spend one dime or one American life to stop them from killing each other.