Video: Kyl and Hutchison introduce GOP version of DREAM Act

posted at 9:21 pm on November 27, 2012 by Allahpundit

Via the Daily Caller. It speaks volumes of the politics of this that two of the three senators who are sponsoring it are retiring next month and the other, McCain, just won reelection two years ago and will be 80 when he decides whether to run again. No one here, in other words, is worried about a primary.

The key difference between DREAM and ACHIEVE is citizenship, but in the end it’s not much of a difference:

The DREAM Act offers applicants temporary residency for a six-year period after completing two years of college or two years in the military. Within this period undocumented immigrants may then qualify for permanent residency, and as a permanent residents can later try the path to citizenship.

As for the Achieve Act, it offers three different visas: the first, good for up to six years, for students; the second, a work visa good for four years, and the third is a permanent nonimmigrant visa that would have to be renewed every five years. Those who fall under the Achieve Act and are interested in U.S. citizenship would have to apply for a green card and go through the same procedures as other immigrants.

So DREAM creates a special path to citizenship and makes that path relatively short. ACHIEVE doesn’t create a special path and takes longer, but if you follow the steps and land a renewable W-3 work visa under the act, then…

No new green cards are added in the Act, but a W-3 visa recipient could take advantage of opportunities in current law to obtain one; for example, if a W-3 visa holder were to marry a U.S. citizen, that alien, already in W-3 status and now married to a U.S. citizen, would be eligible for a green card (legal permanent resident status). Citizenship could follow after the requisite number of years required in green card status (and processing usually takes around a year after that).

Kyl was candid about that in today’s presser; click here and skip to 6:15 for the key bit. Since most of the kids who qualify for the W-3 under ACHIEVE will remain in the U.S. and marry American citizens, they’ll end up with a path to citizenship anyway. It’ll just be a path already blazed by current law, not something novel and expedited cooked up by Democrats so that they can bank Latino votes as quickly as possible. Which explains why you’re already seeing reactions like this:

“Today’s Kyl/Hutchinson presser makes it clear that #ACHIEVE is no #DREAM Act. No path to citizenship, only second-class legal status,” tweeted immigration policy analyst Phil Wolgin.

That’s what Kyl and Hutchison get for trying to wear down Republican resistance to a limited amnesty. And there’ll be plenty more where that came from. There are many ways to challenge the basic precepts of ACHIEVE — a few weeks ago Mark Krikorian argued that it simultaneously did too much and too little — but the main liberal line of attack will be that it’s “cruel” to deny these kids their God-given right to elect Democrats by delaying their legal path to full citizenship. If Reid agrees to take this up next year, presumably it’ll only be because he thinks he can get McCain and Rubio and whoever else to bend a little on the citizenship point. But like I said when I wrote about this last time, I don’t understand why he’d agree to take this up when he could try to leverage Republican panic over electoral demographics and push for full comprehensive immigration reform instead. ACHIEVE is basically the GOP’s attempt to buy goodwill from Latino voters by passing the most limited amnesty possible for the most sympathetic illegal immigrant class. Reid would be a sucker to let them do that on the cheap. Demand comprehensive reform and some sort of path to citizenship, however elongated, as part of it, then after it passes immediately begin accusing all of the Republicans who just voted for it of hating illegals because they wouldn’t agree to citizenship on a faster track. The Democrats don’t care about work visas; they care about votes, and voting requires citizenship. The two least surprising sentences published in political media today, via National Journal: “Democrats are rejecting such an idea [ACHIEVE] for now, arguing that the concept would create an underclass of people in the United States if they don’t have full voting rights. In the Senate, Majority Leader Harry Reid is hoping for a broader bill that would address the 12 million illegal immigrants in the country.”

Here’s video from the Caller. Kyl seems oddly taken with the procedural angle, that they’re doing things by the book constitutionally by trying to codify ACHIEVE instead of imposing the policy via executive fiat, as Obama did several months ago. So O exceeded his constitutional power by handing down this new rule, and now his punishment will be that … Congress will just enact his preferred policy for him anyway, with GOP help? (Kyl himself described ACHIEVE at today’s presser as being “not dissimilar” from Obama’s DREAM rule.) Go easy on the guy, Jon.


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cozmo on May 12, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Still laughing!

KCB on May 12, 2013 at 11:20 PM

SparkPlug on May 12, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Good evening Peregrine! (Pippin) Pip!!

Good line that :-)

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:20 PM

What exactly would Ogabe know about the “working man”?

About as much as Moochelle would know about letting taxpayer lobsters live?

viking01 on May 12, 2013 at 11:21 PM

Resist We Much

For your timeline. Question from Denver Reporter and article also has CIA denial.

President Obama Begs Off Answering Whether Americans in Benghazi Were Denied Requests for Help Oct 26, 2012 6:31pm

luckybogey on May 12, 2013 at 11:21 PM

They only agreed to raising taxes on the wealthy simply because Obama compromised with them on raising taxes on the working man. Something the democratic party is usually against.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:16 PM

So the GOP isn’t usually against taxes? You really are something.

So they didn’t vote to raise taxes on the wealthy?

Gotcha.
/

Just like you don’t understand what anthrax is …I don’t think you understand what a vote is.

CW on May 12, 2013 at 11:22 PM

Some noobs get riled up for the wrong reasons.
cozmo on May 12, 2013 at 11:14 PM

‘Noobs’!!?!?!?!

I’ve been here, under the same user name since the very first day.

LegendHasIt on May 12, 2013 at 11:23 PM

Are you claiming the GOP hasn’t done all it can to prevent wealthy Americans from paying their fair share in taxes?

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 10:30 PM

The GOP haven’t controlled Congress since January of 2007.

H-

Del Dolemonte on May 12, 2013 at 11:23 PM

Something the democratic party is usually against.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:16 PM

You must inhabit another planet.

Schadenfreude on May 12, 2013 at 11:24 PM

*basking in the love*

Axe on May 12, 2013 at 11:24 PM

As usual,you misquoted me to promote your agenda. I never said the GOP didn’t vote to raise taxes on the wealthy. I said their they are for preventing the wealthy from paying their fair share. They only agreed to raising taxes on the wealthy simply because Obama compromised with them on raising taxes on the working man. Something the democratic party is usually against.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:16 PM

You wrote:

A yougov poll?? I know you can do better than that. That said, if Obama was really loved by the wealthy, why is your Republican Party doing all it can to prevent Obama from making these wealthy Americans pay their fair share of taxes?

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Quite obviously, the GOP has not done ‘all it can to prevent Obama from making these wealthy Americans pay their fair share of taxes.’ If it had, it wouldn’t have agreed with Obama to raise taxes on them.

Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 11:24 PM

preallocated on May 12, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Those are just the “Bags” under her eyes…

Barred on May 12, 2013 at 11:24 PM

The GOP haven’t controlled Congress since January of 2007.

H-

Del Dolemonte on May 12, 2013 at 11:23 PM

You mean that 59% of Democrats are wrong?
/

CW on May 12, 2013 at 11:25 PM

I disagree. The GOP was against raising taxes on the “job creators”. They are perfectly fine with raising taxes on the working American.

HotAirLib

Holy contradictions, batman. But that’s what you get from a liar.

whether the GOP has or has not done all it can to prevent wealthy Americans from paying their fair share of taxes.

HotAirLib

Liar.

xblade on May 12, 2013 at 11:25 PM

Something the democratic party is usually against.

HotLips on May 12, 2013 at 11:16 PM

…since you can’t define ‘fair share’…can you talk to us about ‘usually’ ?

KOOLAID2 on May 12, 2013 at 11:25 PM

KCB
Thanks for stopping bye, but you could leave a comment ………………;-)

angrymike on May 12, 2013 at 11:25 PM

Something the democratic party is usually against.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Democrats Were Against The Bush Middle Class Tax Cuts Before They Were For Them

Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 11:26 PM

Quite obviously, the GOP has not done ‘all it can to prevent Obama from making these wealthy Americans pay their fair share of taxes.’ If it had, it wouldn’t have agreed with Obama to raise taxes on them.

Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 11:24 PM

The word obtuse comes to mind.

CW on May 12, 2013 at 11:26 PM

Thanks for stopping bye, but you could leave a comment ………………;-)

angrymike on May 12, 2013 at 11:25 PM

Never occurred to me to leave a comment . . .

Sorry. :)

Axe on May 12, 2013 at 11:27 PM

angrymike on May 12, 2013 at 11:25 PM

Lol, when you put up some sexy hunks, I’ll stop by and comment ;D

Be fair!!

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:27 PM

Hey You

Axe on May 12, 2013 at 11:27 PM

Resist We Much

Feds Hired British Security Firm to Protect Benghazi Consulate

“Contrary to Friday’s claim by State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland that “at no time did we contract with a private security firm in Libya,” the department inked a contract for “security guards and patrol services” on May 3 for $387,413.68. An extension option brought the tab for protecting the consulate to $783,000. The contract lists only “foreign security awardees” as its recipient.”

luckybogey on May 12, 2013 at 11:28 PM

RUSTY ALLEN where be ye?

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:28 PM

Oh it gets better. Next month I have to learn how to build a 39′x15′ deck (whole house).

nobar on May 12, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Always remember: “Measure once, cut twice.”

viking01 on May 12, 2013 at 11:29 PM

…since you can’t define ‘fair share’…can you talk to us about ‘usually’ ?

KOOLAID2 on May 12, 2013 at 11:25 PM

It can’t define Democrat and democratic.

Schadenfreude on May 12, 2013 at 11:29 PM

luckybogey on May 12, 2013 at 11:28 PM

It was a firm from Wales in the UK…

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:30 PM

viking01 on May 12, 2013 at 11:29 PM

Lmao!! Good advice there!! (;

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:30 PM

. . . . . you have just admitted that you lied earlier.

Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 10:51 PM

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What lie? I never said Obama didn’t agree to raise taxes on the middle class. He did.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 10:54 PM
.

You said that the GOP hasn’t raised taxes on the ‘evil rich.’

It has.

Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 11:07 PM

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As usual,you misquoted me to promote your agenda. I never said the GOP didn’t vote to raise taxes on the wealthy. I said their they are for preventing the wealthy from paying their fair share. They only agreed to raising taxes on the wealthy simply because Obama compromised with them on raising taxes on the working man. Something the democratic party is usually against.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:16 PM

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Nether you, nor anyone else is WORTHY … to define what is or is not a rich person’s “fair share”.

Taxes should be SINGLE RATE, and the I R S abolished … period.

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:31 PM

Democrats Were Against The Bush Middle Class Tax Cuts Before They Were For Them

Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 11:26 PM

Obama was “for the middle class” before he was against them. I said it often on HA that Obama hates the middle class. They are in his way, must be made poor. He’s succeeding, apace. Obama and Michelle only ‘love’ the poor and love the very rich.

Schadenfreude on May 12, 2013 at 11:31 PM

angrymike on May 12, 2013 at 11:25 PM

I tried the first couple of times, but it didn’t work. I’ll try again. Thanks for introducing me to Miss K!

KCB on May 12, 2013 at 11:31 PM

Going for a smoke… brb …

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:31 PM

williamg on May 12, 2013 at 10:53 PM

WILLIAMG!!!! (Blushing) ;-P

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 10:54 PM

What….WHaaaaat?!

Hey – there’s a LOT of improperly functioning appliances in my house…….sometimes I have to do a LOT of that to get them to WORK properly!

I mean – my microwave needs some persuasion to heat my Soup up! That can take a A LOT of palm-banging!

williamg on May 12, 2013 at 11:31 PM

Always remember: “Measure once, cut twice.”

viking01 on May 12, 2013 at 11:29 PM

I know the fundamentals (and I won’t be doing the cutting). But what autistics are not so good at is finesse. Those centers require alot of finesse.

We haven’t decided if we are going to leave room for enclosure (Dad wants to shrink our chimney).

nobar on May 12, 2013 at 11:32 PM

Cat Scratch Fever

Axe on May 12, 2013 at 11:32 PM

Axe
I would love to know my friends at H/A were stopping by……………;-)

angrymike on May 12, 2013 at 11:33 PM

KCB
Ya she’s something, huh……….;)
BRB …….

angrymike on May 12, 2013 at 11:34 PM

The Ds of today are never democratic, liberal or progressive.

They are only charlatanic tyrannical thugs and pretenders, fooling the foolish.

Anyone who lets them get away with the terms needs to have head examined.

Schadenfreude on May 12, 2013 at 11:34 PM

williamg on May 12, 2013 at 11:31 PM

Nice come back there ;)

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:35 PM

Sources: 15 days after Benghazi attack, FBI still investigating from afar

By the CNN Wire Staff
updated 11:52 AM EDT, Thu September 27, 2012

Cluster.

CW on May 12, 2013 at 11:35 PM

We haven’t decided if we are going to leave room for enclosure (Dad wants to shrink our chimney).

nobar on May 12, 2013 at 11:32 PM

Go ahead, and use a “step” to cover it if necessary; put two, three big terracotta on there, have a seat, or a raised section of floor (you did not specify size). Win-win. :)

Axe on May 12, 2013 at 11:35 PM

Are you an engineer or a teacher? Just curious. Skip it id it’s not my business. :)

Axe on May 12, 2013 at 11:02 PM

Nuclear engineer………who has taught Senior Reactor Operators……Hey – how can I give you an email address quietly somehow, here…….that is, IF you wanted it…..

williamg on May 12, 2013 at 11:36 PM

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:31 PM

Hear Hear!!

First order of biz should repubs or conservatives get in!

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:36 PM

Ya she’s something, huh……….;)
BRB …….

Yes. Yes she is.

KCB on May 12, 2013 at 11:37 PM

Something the democratic party is usually against.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:16 PM
Democrats Were Against The Bush Middle Class Tax Cuts Before They Were For Them

Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 11:26 PM

I just read the hit piece you did on me back in December on your blog. I feel so privileged. I may need to start posting there now to defend myself.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:37 PM

luckybogey on May 12, 2013 at 11:21 PM

Thanks!!!

Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 11:37 PM

I just read the hit piece you did on me back in December on your blog. I feel so privileged. I may need to start posting there now to defend myself.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:37 PM

Poor baby. You think a ‘hit piece’ is telling the truth. LOL.

Do whatever you want, princess.

Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 11:38 PM

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:30 PM

That, and a 2 by 4 is actually 1 and 1/2 by 3 and 1/2 or something like that.

Those lumberyards are sneaky where one can plan everything out in perfect numerical detail then have it end up like the Golden Gate Bridge not meeting in the middle.

viking01 on May 12, 2013 at 11:39 PM

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:16 PM

The truth: anyone who uses ‘fair share’ in any context/argument is a fundamentally unserious non-person.

preallocated on May 12, 2013 at 11:40 PM

viking01 on May 12, 2013 at 11:39 PM

Forgive me but I always thought it was measure twice and cut once!

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:40 PM

I would love to know my friends at H/A were stopping by……………;-)

angrymike on May 12, 2013 at 11:33 PM

Oh NO!…I stay away from there!…Every time I go there…I find myself sitting here…with a little surprise !

KOOLAID2 on May 12, 2013 at 11:40 PM

Resist
I want to thank you for all your hard work on the blog, you give awesome insight and I use your stuff from time to time. Your awesome ……………:-)

angrymike on May 12, 2013 at 11:40 PM

Go ahead, and use a “step” to cover it if necessary; put two, three big terracotta on there, have a seat, or a raised section of floor (you did not specify size). Win-win. :)

Axe on May 12, 2013 at 11:35 PM

The chimney is on the back of the house (stupidly). The plan is to evict it, cut it in half, have an overhead vent at half-ish height.

The real fun is to reroute our dryer vent so it doesn’t become a fire hazard. And the natural gas line has to be moved out (gotta love cheap grilling).

nobar on May 12, 2013 at 11:41 PM

Axe
I would love to know my friends at H/A were stopping by……………;-)

angrymike on May 12, 2013 at 11:33 PM

Of course you would. :) I’m really sorry. If I had never added comments to my dealio, I would never have stopped to think about what you said up there. :) It’s cool to have people say something. I know better now, even if it’s not much.

PS: Selfies rule. PPS: One day, we’ll find a few hours to idle your engine, my radio, and RWM’s mind while we walk a six-pack of something. :)

Axe on May 12, 2013 at 11:41 PM

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:31 PM

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Hear Hear!!

First order of biz should repubs or conservatives get in!

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:36 PM

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Our tough decision right now is; do we try and “take over” the Republican Party, or start a new one ?

I’d still prefer to see us take the R. Party away from the New England and Mid-Atlantic “Blue Bloods”.

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:41 PM

Poor HAL.

CW on May 12, 2013 at 11:42 PM

KOOLAID2 on May 12, 2013 at 11:40 PM

I have absolutely NO COMMENT!!!

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:42 PM

Resist
I want to thank you for all your hard work on the blog, you give awesome insight and I use your stuff from time to time. Your awesome ……………:-)

angrymike on May 12, 2013 at 11:40 PM

He thinks your brain is sexy too. But with your brain, you already knew that. Never mind.

KCB on May 12, 2013 at 11:42 PM

Oct 26, 2012 6:31pm

In an interview with a Denver TV reporter Friday, President Obama twice refused to answer questions as to whether the Americans under siege in Benghazi, Libya on September 11, 2012, were denied requests for help, saying he’s waiting for the results of investigations before making any conclusions about what went wrong.

After being asked about possible denials of requests for aid, and whether it’s fair to tell Americans that what happened is under investigation and won’t be released until after the election, the president said, “the election has nothing to do with four brave Americans getting killed and us wanting to find out exactly what happened. These are folks who served under me who I had sent to some very dangerous places. Nobody wants to find out more what happened than I do.”

President Obama told KUSA-TV’s Kyle Clarke large that “we want to make sure we get it right, particularly because I have made a commitment to the families impacted as well as to the American people, we’re going to bring those folks to justice. So, we’re going to gather all the facts, find out exactly what happened, and make sure that it doesn’t happen again but we’re also going to make sure that we bring to justice those who carried out these attacks.”

Clark pressed again.

Were they denied requests for help during the attack?” he asked.

“Well, we are finding out exactly what happened,” the president again said. “I can tell you, as I’ve said over the last couple of months since this happened, the minute I found out what was happening, I gave three very clear directives.

thx luckybogey for the link.

ted c on May 12, 2013 at 11:43 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoQYw49saqc

Clint Eastwood ;-D

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:11 PM

I can’t explain it…..but I LOVE those guys!

williamg on May 12, 2013 at 11:44 PM

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:41 PM

Taken away yes, I just hope and pray the current repubs bloody well DO somthing with all the ammo they have and not waste it!

Things could change fast!

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:44 PM

Axe
That sounds great, I just put some 110 octane in her, she LOVED it………

angrymike on May 12, 2013 at 11:44 PM

Poor baby. You think a ‘hit piece’ is telling the truth. LOL.

Do whatever you want, princess.

Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 11:38 PM

A woman who makes misogynist references. Not cool.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:44 PM

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:16 PM
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The truth: anyone who uses ‘fair share’ in any context/argument is a fundamentally unserious non-person.

preallocated on May 12, 2013 at 11:40 PM

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Anyone who uses ‘fair share’ argument is attempting to set themselves up as ARBITER.

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:44 PM

Thanks. Here is BM’s Company registration 3722107 and VAT registration 742487319 numbers.

Judicial Watch FOIA Request (pdf)

luckybogey on May 12, 2013 at 11:45 PM

it is a shame that leftist commenters (both here and in, say, the nyt) can not even seem to mount a good argument for raising taxes on the wealthy. Fairness just shows an emotionally bitter person.

The better way, it seems to me, is to say that the great American wealth creation engine (capitalism) has been a roaring success. So much so that we are know in danger of being ruled by a wealthy aristocracy).

Think the ‘trust fund babies’, the Ford Foundation, etc.

Aristocracies have historically been anti-capitalist. And we see that is the sense that the ultra rich (buffet) are perfectly happy to use their wealth to suppress other people…pulling up the ladder so to speak.

Now, i’m not one for seizing property…just not healthy. But the low road that most leftist rich people take (think buffet again) is that they want their wealth to go to their pet projects…they don’t want the government to have it…because well they know the government is basically a bunch of goons and corrupt.

Also, the left and progressive Rs have pretty much shown themselves to be totally irresponsible in their spending OPM. So, heavy taxation (enough to have very small deficits would focus people’s attention real damn quick.

if leftists want to whine about fairness…then let them start with clawing back buffet’s billions from the Gates foundation. And bill gates doesn’t need his money to blather about common core either.

r keller on May 12, 2013 at 11:45 PM

I feel so privileged. I may need to start posting sh!tting myself there now to defend myself.

HotLips on May 12, 2013 at 11:37 PM

…fixed!

KOOLAID2 on May 12, 2013 at 11:45 PM

williamg on May 12, 2013 at 11:44 PM

me too for some strange reason!! :-)

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:45 PM

nobar on May 12, 2013 at 11:32 PM

Be sure to see my 11:39 post.

You probably already know that lumber dimensions are “before planing” similar to a quarter-pounder being that weight “before cooking.”

When a 2×4 actually is smaller dimensionally but one computes it as actually 2″ wide that can make a deck or house or whatever a lot smaller than intended!

viking01 on May 12, 2013 at 11:45 PM

KCB
smart women are very sexy……………..;-)

angrymike on May 12, 2013 at 11:46 PM

angrymike on May 12, 2013 at 11:40 PM

Thanks! Use whatever you need whenever you want. :-)

Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 11:47 PM

Poor baby. You think a ‘hit piece’ is telling the truth. LOL.

Do whatever you want, princess.

Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 11:38 PM
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A woman who makes misogynist references. Not cool.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:44 PM
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You’re not worthy to define “misogynist” ….. what else can’t you do ?

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:47 PM

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:44 PM

I think I see a tear.

So what bean do they use in the production of anthrax there Einstein?

CW on May 12, 2013 at 11:47 PM

Always remember: “Measure once, cut twice.”

viking01 on May 12, 2013 at 11:29 PM

I LOVE it!

This goes along with my SECOND-favorite quotation from people who have no knowledge of “making things work” trying to pretend they know what they are doing:

“No matter HOW MANT TIMES I cut this thing – it’s STILL too short!”

williamg on May 12, 2013 at 11:47 PM

http://townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2013/05/12/some-things-to-consider-about-benghazi-n1593171/page/full
The White House never has been shy about releasing pictures of the president reacting to emergencies or events of significance. We’ve seen pictures of him learning of the shooting in Newtown and watching the raid that killed bin Laden and holding a “beer summit” on his porch. But on the night of the terrorist attack in Benghazi, we know nothing. No 8 x 10 glossy of him in in action. No garbled phone or radio voice. If he were asleep, in the midst of a campaign cram session or doing something else embarrassing, you’d get, well, the nothing we’ve gotten. The White House knows the truth. That it hasn’t even tried to share it clearly says it considers this PR gut-punch less damaging.

ted c on May 12, 2013 at 11:48 PM

Forgive me but I always thought it was measure twice and cut once!

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:40 PM

It is, but reversing it also reminds of the consequences of ill-timed leisure….

viking01 on May 12, 2013 at 11:48 PM

The truth: anyone who uses ‘fair share’ in any context/argument is a fundamentally unserious non-person.

preallocated on May 12, 2013 at 11:40 PM

Interesting. So you don’t believe in everyone paying their fair share of taxes? The poor and working class should pay it all simply because they can’t afford their own DC lobbyist? Why am I not surprised a conservative is saying this?

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:48 PM

A woman who makes misogynist references. Not cool.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:44 PM

Oh, puhlease. I don’t play the political correctness game. If FemiNazis get their knickers in a wad, so bloody be it.

Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 11:48 PM

Nuclear engineer………who has taught Senior Reactor Operators……Hey – how can I give you an email address quietly somehow, here…….that is, IF you wanted it…..

williamg on May 12, 2013 at 11:36 PM

Meh. All you people crazy. I avoid talking to you as much as possible.

But you can click me, then click the map icon, bottom right, choose contact from the map, and send me a message with anything in it you want. If you give me your real email address, I can get you connected. :)

– But, like I said, all you people crazy, and I like running the forest alone. Or I did . . . *rubs temples*

Axe on May 12, 2013 at 11:49 PM

if leftists want to whine about fairness…then let them start with clawing back buffet’s billions from the Gates foundation. And bill gates doesn’t need his money to blather about common core either.

r keller on May 12, 2013 at 11:45 PM

That’s a good start! And as for CC, that’s a dispicable piece of work, I hope it gets shut down…

INC who comments here has done a ton of work on that!!

If not for her I wouldn’t have known about CC!

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:49 PM

Do whatever you want, princess.

Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 11:38 PM
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A woman who makes misogynist references. Not cool.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:44 PM

Not to worry… she realizes your royal coach is actually a pumpkin.

viking01 on May 12, 2013 at 11:50 PM

He thinks your brain is sexy too. But with your brain, you already knew that. Never mind.

KCB on May 12, 2013 at 11:42 PM

Snort. lol

Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 11:50 PM

williamg on May 12, 2013 at 11:31 PM

Nice come back there ;)

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:35 PM

*creeping and tip-toeing sounds*

*CRrreee-eak!*

Okay, okay……*tip-toeing”….*creeping*…..WHERE?…..

OHHH! – HERE!……..

*swigs tea*……

…..nice posters!

williamg on May 12, 2013 at 11:50 PM

ted c on May 12, 2013 at 11:48 PM

If we could only get a look at Reggie’s cell phone pics, I believe we could solve this mystery.

KCB on May 12, 2013 at 11:50 PM

Every time one of these scandals is exposed (F & F, Benghazi, now the IRS targeting conservative groups), the immediate response is they were carried out by “low level employees” while the higher ups didn’t have a clue about what was going on. That is utter BEE ESS. Low level bureaucrats follow orders. They do not create entire programs from scratch and carry them out while keeping their bosses totally in the dark. That is especially true for programs that could backfire on the higher ups if their real purposes were exposed.

Every one of these programs originated from the PO(TU)S. He might not have come up with the exact idea — after all, his specialty is vacationing lavishly on other people’s money not running guns into Mexico — but he spoke to people with that expertise and told them to get to it. Obama was involved in all 3 of these programs up to his eyeballs. Being as full of himself and paranoid as he is, there is NOTHING going on that he is not fully aware of. The same goes for the Rodham woman and Eric Holder. Every one of these snakes signed off on these programs.

RasThavas on May 12, 2013 at 11:51 PM

Anyway off to bed. Some of us still have this thing called 9-5.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:51 PM

Interesting. So you don’t believe in everyone paying their fair share of taxes? The poor and working class should pay it all simply because they can’t afford their own DC lobbyist? Why am I not surprised a conservative is saying this?

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:48 PM

Define “fair share”, numbnuts.

So we can marvel at your “superior intellect”

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on May 12, 2013 at 11:51 PM

Axe on May 12, 2013 at 11:49 PM

Terribly confusing isn’t it (:

But you’ll be OK!

Don’t worry, Be happy!!

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:52 PM

The chimney is on the back of the house (stupidly). The plan is to evict it, cut it in half, have an overhead vent at half-ish height.

The real fun is to reroute our dryer vent so it doesn’t become a fire hazard.

*nods*

And the natural gas line has to be moved out (gotta love cheap grilling).

*sad, unhappy dollar signs float through brain*

nobar on May 12, 2013 at 11:41 PM

:)

Axe on May 12, 2013 at 11:53 PM

Interesting. So you don’t believe in everyone paying their fair share of taxes? The poor and working class should pay it all simply because they can’t afford their own DC lobbyist? Why am I not surprised a conservative is saying this?

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:48 PM

Because you are a fool.

Most poor pay little or none. The middle class pay the most. The rich, like Obama, are rich because they are either smart or thugs.

Who determines what is “fair share”? and how much is enough? I’m for a…say 10% tax across the board. Nothing w/b more fair. It will make your tiny head explode.

Schadenfreude on May 12, 2013 at 11:53 PM

if leftists want to whine about fairness…then let them start with clawing back buffet’s billions from the Gates foundation. And bill gates doesn’t need his money to blather about common core either.

r keller on May 12, 2013 at 11:45 PM

You know I don’t think Gates is near the liberal that Brayam and her ilk think he is. Gates is trying to do good outside of big gov. The fund is the largest PRIVATE foundation.

In fact part of the foundation’s goals is changes to our school system that include closing some public schools in favor of private charter schools.

CW on May 12, 2013 at 11:53 PM

I just read the hit piece you did on me back in December on your blog. I feel so privileged. I may need to start posting there now to defend myself.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:37 PM

Poor baby. You think a ‘hit piece’ is telling the truth. LOL.

Do whatever you want, princess.

Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 11:38 PM

Oh HAL.

You got b!tch slapped, sweetheart.

AllahsNippleHair on May 12, 2013 at 11:54 PM

The truth: anyone who uses ‘fair share’ in any context/argument is a fundamentally unserious non-person.

preallocated on May 12, 2013 at 11:40 PM

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Interesting. So you don’t believe in everyone paying their fair share of taxes? The poor and working class should pay it all simply because they can’t afford their own DC lobbyist? Why am I not surprised a conservative is saying this?

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:48 PM

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Okay, repeating ………
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Nether you, nor anyone else is WORTHY … to define what is or is not a rich person’s “fair share”.

Taxes should be SINGLE RATE, and the I R S abolished … period.

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:31 PM

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and . . . . . . . . .
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Anyone who uses ‘fair share’ argument is attempting to set themselves up as ARBITER.

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:44 PM

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:54 PM

The poor and working class should pay it all ….

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:48 PM

The straw is rich in this one.

CW on May 12, 2013 at 11:54 PM

Some of us still have this thing called 9-5.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:51 PM

Work harder for Obama’s Utopian dream, dummy.

Schadenfreude on May 12, 2013 at 11:54 PM

How about that abortion doctor in Kansas that was killed by that pro life tea partier for starters? Then there is that one a few weeks ago who sent that anthrax like substance to the president.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 9:41 PM

Don’t know whether the guy did it or not, but if he did send the ricin to the president or anyone else, he should be prosecuted and punished to the limits of the law, period, no matter who or what group he’s a part of.

That said, any “abortion doctor” who conducts his baby-killing practice beyond the limits of the law should also be prosecuted and punished similarly, including the death penalty. And, if I’m on his jury, death will come to him.

TXUS on May 12, 2013 at 11:56 PM

Some of us still have this thing called 9-5.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:51 PM

Some of us still have this thing called 700a or 800a to ????.
PuŞŞy.

CW on May 12, 2013 at 11:56 PM

Anyway off to bed. Some of us still have this thing called 9-5.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:51 PM

AllahsNippleHair on May 12, 2013 at 11:56 PM

Anyway off to bed. Some of us still have this thing called 9-5.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:51 PM

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You managed to avoid responding to any of my challenges, I see.

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:57 PM

Don’t worry, Be happy!!

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:52 PM

:) I’m happier than I’ve been in memory. Also weird.

*shrug*

*Cheeto?*

Axe on May 12, 2013 at 11:58 PM

Some of us still have this thing called 9-5.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:51 PM

What’s a “9-5″? Is that like, one-third of a work day?

williamg on May 12, 2013 at 11:59 PM

Anyway off to bed. Some of us still have this thing called 9-5.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:51 PM

9-5 is 4.
So …..

burrata on May 13, 2013 at 12:00 AM

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