Video: Kyl and Hutchison introduce GOP version of DREAM Act

posted at 9:21 pm on November 27, 2012 by Allahpundit

Via the Daily Caller. It speaks volumes of the politics of this that two of the three senators who are sponsoring it are retiring next month and the other, McCain, just won reelection two years ago and will be 80 when he decides whether to run again. No one here, in other words, is worried about a primary.

The key difference between DREAM and ACHIEVE is citizenship, but in the end it’s not much of a difference:

The DREAM Act offers applicants temporary residency for a six-year period after completing two years of college or two years in the military. Within this period undocumented immigrants may then qualify for permanent residency, and as a permanent residents can later try the path to citizenship.

As for the Achieve Act, it offers three different visas: the first, good for up to six years, for students; the second, a work visa good for four years, and the third is a permanent nonimmigrant visa that would have to be renewed every five years. Those who fall under the Achieve Act and are interested in U.S. citizenship would have to apply for a green card and go through the same procedures as other immigrants.

So DREAM creates a special path to citizenship and makes that path relatively short. ACHIEVE doesn’t create a special path and takes longer, but if you follow the steps and land a renewable W-3 work visa under the act, then…

No new green cards are added in the Act, but a W-3 visa recipient could take advantage of opportunities in current law to obtain one; for example, if a W-3 visa holder were to marry a U.S. citizen, that alien, already in W-3 status and now married to a U.S. citizen, would be eligible for a green card (legal permanent resident status). Citizenship could follow after the requisite number of years required in green card status (and processing usually takes around a year after that).

Kyl was candid about that in today’s presser; click here and skip to 6:15 for the key bit. Since most of the kids who qualify for the W-3 under ACHIEVE will remain in the U.S. and marry American citizens, they’ll end up with a path to citizenship anyway. It’ll just be a path already blazed by current law, not something novel and expedited cooked up by Democrats so that they can bank Latino votes as quickly as possible. Which explains why you’re already seeing reactions like this:

“Today’s Kyl/Hutchinson presser makes it clear that #ACHIEVE is no #DREAM Act. No path to citizenship, only second-class legal status,” tweeted immigration policy analyst Phil Wolgin.

That’s what Kyl and Hutchison get for trying to wear down Republican resistance to a limited amnesty. And there’ll be plenty more where that came from. There are many ways to challenge the basic precepts of ACHIEVE — a few weeks ago Mark Krikorian argued that it simultaneously did too much and too little — but the main liberal line of attack will be that it’s “cruel” to deny these kids their God-given right to elect Democrats by delaying their legal path to full citizenship. If Reid agrees to take this up next year, presumably it’ll only be because he thinks he can get McCain and Rubio and whoever else to bend a little on the citizenship point. But like I said when I wrote about this last time, I don’t understand why he’d agree to take this up when he could try to leverage Republican panic over electoral demographics and push for full comprehensive immigration reform instead. ACHIEVE is basically the GOP’s attempt to buy goodwill from Latino voters by passing the most limited amnesty possible for the most sympathetic illegal immigrant class. Reid would be a sucker to let them do that on the cheap. Demand comprehensive reform and some sort of path to citizenship, however elongated, as part of it, then after it passes immediately begin accusing all of the Republicans who just voted for it of hating illegals because they wouldn’t agree to citizenship on a faster track. The Democrats don’t care about work visas; they care about votes, and voting requires citizenship. The two least surprising sentences published in political media today, via National Journal: “Democrats are rejecting such an idea [ACHIEVE] for now, arguing that the concept would create an underclass of people in the United States if they don’t have full voting rights. In the Senate, Majority Leader Harry Reid is hoping for a broader bill that would address the 12 million illegal immigrants in the country.”

Here’s video from the Caller. Kyl seems oddly taken with the procedural angle, that they’re doing things by the book constitutionally by trying to codify ACHIEVE instead of imposing the policy via executive fiat, as Obama did several months ago. So O exceeded his constitutional power by handing down this new rule, and now his punishment will be that … Congress will just enact his preferred policy for him anyway, with GOP help? (Kyl himself described ACHIEVE at today’s presser as being “not dissimilar” from Obama’s DREAM rule.) Go easy on the guy, Jon.


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HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Obama raised taxes on the middle class when Obamacare was made law.

chewmeister on May 12, 2013 at 10:52 PM

HAL YOU’RE a LIAR!! are you stupid ? what the f uck is wrong with you? Seriously , can you effing read? Do you not know what happened just 5 and a half months ago?

CW on May 12, 2013 at 10:33 PM

It seems you are the stupid one for posting a link no one is disputing. Now you are yet to answer my question on whether the GOP has or has not done all it can to prevent wealthy Americans from paying their fair share of taxes.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Didn’t he get banned?
Is it an appointed , elected or inherited position?
Since I have the attention span of a fruit fly, I lost track of such things.

LegendHasIt on May 12, 2013 at 10:42 PM

I had a great answer. It got eaten. I fear to retype it, having recently been spanked. :)

Axe on May 12, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Obama’s IRS: Six times the IRS has been accused of punishing President Obama’s political opponents

Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 10:47 PM

I repeat, we were audited TWICE several years ago. Yes-in the same year. Me and mine are barely middle class. At the time, I was unemployed. Me and the husband firmly believe that we were audited because of my blogging, and because of my visible involvement w/ the Chicago tea parties!

annoyinglittletwerp on May 12, 2013 at 10:53 PM

My question about ‘compromise’ was in reference to middle class taxes. It was my impression that the GOP was against raising taxes on anyone. They compromised with Obama and on their so-called ‘principles’ when they agreed to raise taxes on the ‘evil rich.’

Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 10:53 PM

*palm-banging*

williamg on May 12, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Isn’t that what HAL calls a hot date?

viking01 on May 12, 2013 at 10:09 PM

LOL!! One of those unintended double-entendre’s……

It would be HYSTERICALLY funny if it didn’t describe my weekend nights……on a GOOD night…..

williamg on May 12, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Nevertheless, you have just admitted that you lied earlier.

Any Republican, who voted for any tax increase, should be tarred-and-feathered and run out of town with the Democrats.

Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 10:51 PM

What lie? I never said Obama didn’t agree to raise taxes on the middle class. He did.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 10:54 PM

How about that abortion doctor in Kansas that was killed by that pro life tea partier for starters? Then there is that one a few weeks ago who sent that anthrax like substance to the president.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 9:41 PM

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My side is morally superior to your side ………. nyaah nyaah … thbbbbbbbbth

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 10:54 PM

williamg on May 12, 2013 at 10:53 PM

WILLIAMG!!!! (Blushing) ;-P

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 10:54 PM

My question about ‘compromise’ was in reference to middle class taxes. It was my impression that the GOP was against raising taxes on anyone. They compromised with Obama and on their so-called ‘principles’ when they agreed to raise taxes on the ‘evil rich.’

Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 10:53 PM

I disagree. The GOP was against raising taxes on the “job creators”. They are perfectly fine with raising taxes on the working American.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Meh, some people cannot take on any thing better than the likes of HAL.
cozmo on May 12, 2013 at 10:42 PM

So, lets see. Who has ‘engaged ‘ HAL tthe most in this thread. Could it be RWM? Are you saying that she is so intellectually limited, that she can only pluck at the ‘low lying fruit’?

The lady who is probably the greatest intellect among us? Or at least in the top five. I know that I haven’t earned any intellectual credibility here since I quit displaying any in 2008 when the idiots nominated McCain, and I turned to just the occasional snark, but that veiled insult to RWM is a bit much.

LegendHasIt on May 12, 2013 at 10:56 PM

* lurk mode *

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Lets just get the impeachment hearings started, but it did take 10 months for Watergate to break wide open……………..
Howdy neighbors …………..;)

angrymike on May 12, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Me and the husband firmly believe that we were audited because of my blogging, and because of my visible involvement w/ the Chicago tea parties!

annoyinglittletwerp on May 12, 2013 at 10:53 PM

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Oh, well … in that case you probably deserved it ! … and good evening to you. : )

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 10:57 PM

I expect RogerB could destroy pretty much anything you have ever said.

It’s a given. We all know it.

It’s just a small portion of why we find you to be such an azzhole.

Comprende?

wolly4321 on May 12, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Calling Elvis

Axe on May 12, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Brilliant!……and now, the same fundamental concept translated into Hilbert-Space….

williamg on May 12, 2013 at 10:58 PM

williamg on May 12, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Just be sure to get your vision checked regularly.

viking01 on May 12, 2013 at 10:58 PM

whether the GOP has or has not done all it can to prevent wealthy Americans from paying their fair share of taxes.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 10:52 PM

You’re inept. They gave him the tax increase. They did not have to.

Knock, knock is anyone in there?

I wonder have you had your IQ ever tested? A low IQ combined with dishonesty is a scary thing.

CW on May 12, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Now you are yet to answer my question on whether the GOP has or has not done all it can to prevent wealthy Americans from paying their fair share of taxes.

HotLps on May 12, 2013 at 10:52 PM

…I know this is difficult for you…

HotLips on May 12, 2013 at 10:30 PM

Define ” fair share”

burrata on May 12, 2013 at 10:31 PM

KOOLAID2 on May 12, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Happy Mother’s Day to the HA Moms!!

KCB on May 12, 2013 at 10:59 PM

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 10:57 PM

FLINK!

annoyinglittletwerp on May 12, 2013 at 10:59 PM

* lurk mode *

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 10:56 PM

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Why did the ominous music from Jaws just go through my mind ?

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Hi Scrumpy……..;-)

angrymike on May 12, 2013 at 11:00 PM

M2DB* — Evil Eye

M2DB (not so harsh) — The Zoo

*Music to debate by

Axe on May 12, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Happy Mother’s Day to the HA Moms!!

KCB on May 12, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Thanks!

annoyinglittletwerp on May 12, 2013 at 11:01 PM

LegendHasIt on May 12, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Don’t worry about Cozmo . It just thinks it can make itself look better than some of us. Small pe nis.

CW on May 12, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Brilliant!……and now, the same fundamental concept translated into Hilbert-Space….

williamg on May 12, 2013 at 10:58 PM

. . . :)

Are you an engineer or a teacher? Just curious. Skip it id it’s not my business. :)

Axe on May 12, 2013 at 11:02 PM

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:00 PM

hahahahahahaha funny that isn’t it?! ;)

Good evening mike!! :-)

Good evening Ken and L2G and KA2 and axe and sophie and coz and alt and all!!!! :-)

Happy Mother’s Day to all our Moms!!

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:02 PM

I disagree. The GOP was against raising taxes on the “job creators”. They are perfectly fine with raising taxes on the working American.

HotLips on May 12, 2013 at 10:55 PM

…the two brain cells… are colliding!

KOOLAID2 on May 12, 2013 at 11:02 PM

who sent that anthrax like substance to the president.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 9:41 PM

That’s a keeper. Thank you HAL.

CW on May 12, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Could it be RWM? Are you saying that she is so intellectually limited, that she can only pluck at the ‘low lying fruit’?

LegendHasIt on May 12, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Nope, RWM uses the likes of HAL for material for her blog.

She is a lawyer who deals with HALs every day in her professional life.

HAL is practice for her.

And besides, she is too cute to be a fruit fly. You can tell by the accent.

Now, by sparring with the idiot HAL, much tunage was left unshared, many drinks were left un-drank and HAL will use this same stuff tomorrow.

Nothing was accomplished, and fun was not had.

cozmo on May 12, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Why did the ominous music from Jaws just go through my mind ?

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:00 PM

daaaa-dum, daaaaaa-dum, da-dum da-dum, da-dum, da-da-da-dummmmmmmmm…..

viking01 on May 12, 2013 at 11:03 PM

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 10:57 PM

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FLINK!

annoyinglittletwerp on May 12, 2013 at 10:59 PM

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ALLAH’ !

‘twerp just ‘flinked’ me for no good reason ….. it hurt, and everything …….. : ( … (lower lip sticking out)

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:03 PM

CW on May 12, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Uh oh thems’ fightin’ words….

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Is that Mike I see?

KCB on May 12, 2013 at 11:03 PM

CW on May 12, 2013 at 11:01 PM
Lay off Cozmo. He’s a good guy.
He’s gone after me and Cindy too(about responding to HAL.)

annoyinglittletwerp on May 12, 2013 at 11:04 PM

not looking good here tonite…

* re-lurk *

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:02 PM

…I can’t get on scrumpydoodles…AGAIN!….grrrrrrrr!

KOOLAID2 on May 12, 2013 at 11:04 PM

It just thinks it can make itself look better than some of us.

CW on May 12, 2013 at 11:01 PM

It ain’t all that hard to do.

cozmo on May 12, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Again HAL, does the homeless dude give up one can in ten?

Explain to me this progressive utopia.

wolly4321 on May 12, 2013 at 11:05 PM

HAL must be trying to make more money, its been on O/T for a while, I guess the other trolls just cant stomach this Benghazi scandal …………..

angrymike on May 12, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Oh and……*clink!*

KCB on May 12, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Good evening Ken and L2G and KA2 and axe and sophie and coz and alt and all!!!! :-)

Happy Mother’s Day to all our Moms!!

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:02 PM

*ridiculous up-nod thing whilst nerdly computer dancing at a standing terminal*

*cause I can*

Axe on May 12, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Better to be flinked than Fluked.

viking01 on May 12, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Why did the ominous music from Jaws just go through my mind ?

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:00 PM

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daaaa-dum, daaaaaa-dum, da-dum da-dum, da-dum, da-da-da-dummmmmmmmm…..

viking01 on May 12, 2013 at 11:03 PM

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That’s IT ….. now I’m scared of Scrumpy.

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:06 PM

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Wimp! Justin Bieber could kick your azz!

annoyinglittletwerp on May 12, 2013 at 11:06 PM

//lurking a bit. Finishing something. Holla.

Axe on May 12, 2013 at 11:06 PM

. They are perfectly fine with raising taxes on the working American.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Unlike Obama who gave us the AFCA which is one big tax on many in the middle class.

CW on May 12, 2013 at 11:06 PM

not looking good here tonite…

* re-lurk *

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:04 PM

…nope!…they’re throwing that POS against the walls again!…there’s skid marks everywhere!

KOOLAID2 on May 12, 2013 at 11:06 PM

CW on May 12, 2013 at 11:01 PM


Last three seconds.

LegendHasIt on May 12, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Nevertheless, you have just admitted that you lied earlier.

Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 10:51 PM

What lie? I never said Obama didn’t agree to raise taxes on the middle class. He did.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 10:54 PM

You said that the GOP hasn’t raised taxes on the ‘evil rich.’

It has.

I disagree. The GOP was against raising taxes on the “job creators”. They are perfectly fine with raising taxes on the working American.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 10:55 PM

“I think it’s important that we avoid the fiscal cliff, but that doesn’t mean I’m interested in raising tax rates and killing jobs.’

Boehner

‘I’ve been clear on this — we’re the party that says we shouldn’t raise taxes. I’m not for raising taxes.’

- Rep. Jim Jordan

Google ‘Fiscal cliff’ and ‘we shouldn’t be raising taxes on anyone.’

Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 11:07 PM

It ain’t all that hard to do.

cozmo on May 12, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Yeh when you sit back and basically say nothing.

CW on May 12, 2013 at 11:07 PM

not looking good here tonite…

* re-lurk *

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:04 PM

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Nothing worth feeding on, huh?

I’m staying on the beach and taunting you.

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:07 PM

LOL, talking to HAL is like arguing with a wilted turnip – except occasionally the turnip will respond intelligently.

Midas on May 12, 2013 at 11:07 PM

KCB
The one and only……………..;-)

angrymike on May 12, 2013 at 11:07 PM

KOOLAID2 on May 12, 2013 at 11:04 PM

It’s been down ALL fricking weekend!!

best time seems to be in the week during the pm from 2ish on til about 6ish…

I wish they’d get what ever damn well fixed!!!

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Hey Scrumpy lurker chick!

KCB on May 12, 2013 at 11:08 PM

They are perfectly fine with raising taxes on the working American.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 10:55 PM

So is Barack Obama…

Fiscal Cliff Deal Will Raise Taxes On 77 Percent Of Americans: Tax Policy Center Analysis

Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 11:08 PM

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:07 PM

HAL spoils it and then CW just picking on Cozmo :-(

me no like

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:09 PM

I disagree. The GOP was against raising taxes on the “job creators”. They are perfectly fine with raising taxes on the working American.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 10:55 PM

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Explain, or your a “false accuser”.

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:09 PM

angrymike on May 12, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Good to see you again!

KCB on May 12, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Last three seconds.

LegendHasIt on May 12, 2013 at 11:07 PM

For sure.YW.

The Cozmos of the world are too stupid to understand.

CW on May 12, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Hillary Cheek Injections?

The pic on drudge at the moment certainly looks like it… The so-called ‘Pillow Face’?

preallocated on May 12, 2013 at 11:09 PM

KCB on May 12, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Hiya Ken!! :-) hows you?

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Can you make anthrax with beans? I missed that part.

Hugs & kisses to *lurkers*.

wolly4321 on May 12, 2013 at 11:10 PM

me no like

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Who is picking on who?

I am not big on letting liars lie. When lies are not confronted they are often mistaken for fact.

CW on May 12, 2013 at 11:11 PM

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:07 PM

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HAL spoils it and then CW just picking on Cozmo :-(

me no like

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:09 PM

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Awwwwwwohhhlll ……… (shoulders drooping)

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:11 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoQYw49saqc

Clint Eastwood ;-D

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:11 PM

The so-called ‘Pillow Face’?

preallocated on May 12, 2013 at 11:09 PM

People would do that to themselves on purpose?

Midas on May 12, 2013 at 11:11 PM

Yeh when you sit back and basically say nothing.

CW on May 12, 2013 at 11:07 PM

And I got you, the other guy and HAL all riled up.

Finished a set of plans, had a few drinks, listened to some tunes, kept a few regulars on their toes, avoided any housework and my pants are still off.

I call that a win.

cozmo on May 12, 2013 at 11:12 PM

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:11 PM

lets go hang out on the beach and roast marshmallows!! :-)

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:12 PM

I am not big on letting liars lie. When lies are not confronted they are often mistaken for fact.

CW on May 12, 2013 at 11:11 PM

Yeah, that’s kind of where i get with the trolls, too. Hate to feed ‘em, but damnit, sometimes you can’t just let the bullshit stand unchallenged.

Midas on May 12, 2013 at 11:12 PM

KCB
Just stopping bye tonight, I changed shifts, gotta get up at 4:30, but I want to keep an eye on things, I’m back, but cant spend hours here, I’ll never get up…………;(

angrymike on May 12, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Hiya Ken!! :-) hows you?

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Marvelous! What a beautiful Texas day!

KCB on May 12, 2013 at 11:13 PM

KCB on May 12, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Beautiful OK day too!! 80′s sunny light breeze…

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:14 PM

The so-called ‘Pillow Face’?

preallocated on May 12, 2013 at 11:09 PM

People would do that to themselves on purpose?

Midas on May 12, 2013 at 11:11 PM

I’m pretty sure it’s from those miniature donuts she’s stealing from Candy Crowley at the DNC fundraisers. That and the Milwaukee’s Beast chasers.

viking01 on May 12, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Relax hon, I can handle it.

Some noobs get riled up for the wrong reasons.

cozmo on May 12, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Oh yeah, if I had a penny for every time you said that my aunt would be my uncle.

SparkPlug on May 12, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Hugs & kisses to *lurkers*.

wolly4321 on May 12, 2013 at 11:10 PM

That’s a little weird and everything, and not really my thing, but . . .

*big kiss*

//re-lurk

Axe on May 12, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Yeh when you sit back and basically say nothing.

CW on May 12, 2013 at 11:07 PM

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And I got you, the other guy and HAL all riled up.

Finished a set of plans, had a few drinks, listened to some tunes, kept a few regulars on their toes, avoided any housework and my pants are still off.

I call that a win.

cozmo on May 12, 2013 at 11:12 PM

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Another classic situation, where I feel I should say something … but I don’t know where to begin.

Guess I’ll sit back and watch a while.

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:15 PM

my pants are still off.

cozmo on May 12, 2013 at 11:12 PM

And that is different than when ?

CW on May 12, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Howdy Cozmo
See you still up to your old tricks, good man…………..;)

angrymike on May 12, 2013 at 11:15 PM

angrymike on May 12, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Good to see you hang out! Take care and sleep well!
God Bless you :-)

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Late QOTD check-in. Tomorrow will be fun. Gotta move the “I feel too controlled” sis out (and probably drive the Uhaul). And rip up carpet (plus tacks, staples, etc). And gotta prep my room for fresh paint.

Joy.

nobar on May 12, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Coming from a “Brit” who doesn’t know the difference between Liverpool Street and the city of Liverpool, you are the last person to critique someones intelligence.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 9:29 PM

You are?

Schadenfreude on May 12, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Finished a set of plans, had a few drinks, listened to some tunes, kept a few regulars on their toes, avoided any housework and my pants are still off.

I call that a win.

cozmo on May 12, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Priceless.

Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 11:15 PM

sometimes you can’t just let the bullshit stand unchallenged.

Midas on May 12, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Heck if the GOP is going to stick us with a tax increase I am sure as hell going to point it out. The left loves to pretend it did not happen. Dishonest pukes.

CW on May 12, 2013 at 11:16 PM

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Sometimes words are just not enough are they? Lol…….

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:16 PM

whether the GOP has or has not done all it can to prevent wealthy Americans from paying their fair share of taxes.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Does it cost more to defend a wealthy person from tyranny than it costs to defend a poor person from tyranny?

can_con on May 12, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 11:07 PM

As usual,you misquoted me to promote your agenda. I never said the GOP didn’t vote to raise taxes on the wealthy. I said their they are for preventing the wealthy from paying their fair share. They only agreed to raising taxes on the wealthy simply because Obama compromised with them on raising taxes on the working man. Something the democratic party is usually against.

HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 11:16 PM

nobar on May 12, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Fun fun fun!!

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:17 PM

Sure, the day that happens pink flamingos will probably become lawn ornaments.

SparkPlug on May 12, 2013 at 11:18 PM

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:11 PM

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lets go hang out on the beach and roast marshmallows!! :-)

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:12 PM

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Only if my wife tags along.

If she sees your comment, I’ll never hear the end of it. : )

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Fun fun fun!!

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:17 PM

Oh it gets better. Next month I have to learn how to build a 39′x15′ deck (whole house).

nobar on May 12, 2013 at 11:18 PM

And I got you, the other guy and HAL all riled up…
…and my pants are still off.
cozmo on May 12, 2013 at 11:12 PM

So, in plain language, you have served the same function here tonight as HAL.
You must be so proud.

LegendHasIt on May 12, 2013 at 11:19 PM

angrymike on May 12, 2013 at 11:13 PM

It’s cool to see you around again. By the way, your site….Keep up the good work! I stop by every day.

KCB on May 12, 2013 at 11:19 PM

People would do that to themselves on purpose?

Midas on May 12, 2013 at 11:11 PM

For Shrillary, anything’s an improvement.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 12, 2013 at 11:19 PM

I seriously doubt it. You stare at frozen juice cans because they say, “concentrate”.

SparkPlug on May 12, 2013 at 11:19 PM

listens2glenn on May 12, 2013 at 11:18 PM

OOps sorry!! Just funning :-)… scroll away scroll away!!!!

Scrumpy on May 12, 2013 at 11:19 PM

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