Susan Rice: On second thought, there was no protest before the Benghazi attack

posted at 2:41 pm on November 27, 2012 by Allahpundit

Does this mean it’s no longer racist to oppose her nomination as Secretary of State? Or, since she’s now admitting her mistake, does this mean it’s really racist to oppose her nomination as Secretary of State?

I’m sure the left will tell us when the time is right.

Today, Acting CIA Director Michael Morell and I met with Senators McCain, Graham, and Ayotte to discuss my September 16th public comments regarding the attack against the U.S. facilities in Benghazi, Libya, and the intelligence assessments that formed the basis for those comments. I appreciated the opportunity to discuss these issues directly and constructively with them.

In the course of the meeting, we explained that the talking points provided by the intelligence community, and the initial assessment upon which they were based, were incorrect in a key respect: there was no protest or demonstration in Benghazi. While we certainly wish that we had had perfect information just days after the terrorist attack, as is often the case, the intelligence assessment has evolved. We stressed that neither I nor anyone else in the Administration intended to mislead the American people at any stage in this process, and the Administration updated Congress and the American people as our assessments evolved.

The Administration remains committed to working closely with Congress as we thoroughly investigate the terrorist attack in Benghazi and bring to justice the terrorists responsible for the tragic deaths of our colleagues, Ambassador Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods. We also look forward to the findings of the Accountability Review Board and the FBI investigation.

The White House press corps got Carney to say the magic words this afternoon too. For what it’s worth, Rice’s statement does jibe with what U.S. intel officials told the Wall Street Journal last month about what she knew and when. If you believe them, the first intelligence inklings that the whole “protest” storyline was crapola came on the evening of Saturday, September 15th, hours before Rice appeared on the Sunday shows to talk Benghazi. That Sunday morning, while she was making the rounds on TV, they collected more intel further debunking the protest claims. But then that raises other questions, which the Journal framed at the time:

Unanswered in the account is whose role it was to prevent Ms. Rice from broadcasting information that already risked being wrong. Also unanswered is why it took longer for the new information to come out publicly, even after the DNI revised its assessment.

Let me throw another one at you. Why was U.S. intelligence still leaning towards the protest theory on Sunday, September 16th, when a Libyan guard who was wounded in the consulate attack had already told McClatchy three days earlier that there had never been any protest? All they had to do was read the newspaper that Friday to realize the narrative they were handing Rice was in doubt. And here’s a fourth question, which I believe remains unanswered even now: How did the idea that there had been a protest over the Mohammed movie at the consulate get started in the first place? Was it just a matter of U.S. intel officials watching what happened in Cairo and blindly leaping to the conclusion that the same thing must have happened in Benghazi or was there actual circumstantial evidence of a protest at some point? The only evidence I’ve heard of after months of reading about this came from an AP story on October 27, in which an eyewitness claimed that one of the jihadis at the scene had pressured bystanders to chant about the movie while his crew was busy setting up roadblocks for the attack. The “spontaneous protest,” in other words, was propaganda manufactured by terrorists at the scene as the plot was being put in motion, but maybe the CIA heard about the chanting from another eyewitness and hadn’t yet figured out who was behind it when Rice was briefed. Is that the explanation? Or, as I say, was this pure half-assed guesswork early on, which they nonetheless dutifully passed along to Susan Rice for dissemination on America’s news shows?

Anyway, there are lots of reasons not to want her as Secretary of State even if you think her main failing in the Benghazi affair was being too willing to believe what the CIA was feeding her. Exit quotation from Dan McLaughlin:

Update: Jay Carney’s sick and tired of Obama’s flacks and mouthpieces being beaten up by the press, darn it:

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney grew testy with reporters Tuesday over questions about UN Ambassador Susan Rice’s role in the aftermath of the Benghazi attack.

“What is the point of the focus on this,” Carney asked of questions about Rice’s comments on the five Sunday shows days after the September 11, 2012 attack that killed four Americans signaling it was a spontaneous event. “It could have been me. We all relied on information from the intelligence community.”…

“What your question seems to suggest is that it is more important that I or others used talking points provided by the intelligence community than actually what happened in Benghazi,” Carney said.

Over in the Greenroom, Duane Patterson has some questions for the administration’s much-maligned spokespeople.


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You introduce a theme (in your case, your accusations about ‘other people’s racist views’), then you decry anyone who retorts, like this: “See? You just identified race as a factor in your views.”

There are a handful of Palin-obsessed accounts here who do likewise except their topic is, of course, Palin and not “race” as is yours.

Lourdes on November 27, 2012 at 6:48 PM

Huh. Looks like the only one bringing up Palin here is you. You must be Palin-obsessed.

alwaysfiredup on November 27, 2012 at 8:05 PM

alwaysfiredup on November 27, 2012 at 8:05 PM

I’ve noticed several attempts to bring her up today. People must be looking for a fight to clear out the cobwebs.

Cindy Munford on November 27, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Donks, all incompetent donks. 4 people died when there was help available. I blame Panetta.

jake49 on November 27, 2012 at 8:25 PM

She’s either a moron or a psycho, or more likely both.

VorDaj on November 27, 2012 at 2:49 PM

so?

she’s also black. That’s the problem.

Slade73 on November 27, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Is she? As I said on another thread: nose is too small, lips are too flat, hair is too straight, dialect is too articulate, etc., etc.

Nutstuyu on November 27, 2012 at 9:11 PM

Only in America could an African-American be elected president TWICE and the liberals still sob about discrimination at every opportunity. What a bunch of morons.

scalleywag on November 27, 2012 at 4:12 PM

I thought his long-form BC proved he wasn’t born in Africa.

Nutstuyu on November 27, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Leave it to Quincy Thurston Huntsman to attribute Republican questions about Susan Rice’s remarks to partisanship:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/27/jon-huntsman-benghazi-susan-rice_n_2198698.html

onlineanalyst on November 27, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Rice Bombs in Meeting with Senators
(Or the further adventures of Insane-Hussein Obama and moron liar Susan Slippery Rice)

Susan Rice is either a pathological liar or a low grade moron as no one with a brain and a clue in the area of world affairs would ever have accepted the claim that it was all just a got a little too wild demonstration by Muslims with hurt feeling over some obscure video even if that’s what someone told her. If someone told me that 2 plus 2 was 25, I wouldn’t go out in public and repeat it.

VorDaj on November 27, 2012 at 9:59 PM

Only in America could an African-American be elected president TWICE and the liberals still sob about discrimination at every opportunity. What a bunch of morons.

scalleywag on November 27, 2012 at 4:12 PM

I thought his long-form BC proved he wasn’t born in Africa.

Nutstuyu on November 27, 2012 at 9:20 PM

That laughably obvious forgery only proves that he couldn’t do better than to hire a fellow affirmative-action idiot to paste together a document.

Short of some brave soul posting his real documents (or the trail leading from the false ones), that battle is just over.

MelonCollie on November 27, 2012 at 10:10 PM

Perhaps it might help if someone asked Amb. Rice what sort of ‘heavy weapons’ were stored in the two warehouses next door to the “consulate”; and which were subsequently looted that same night. Just to clarify things a bit.

In addition to asking, of course. “What was Stevens doing in Benghazi with no escort?” and “Who gave the order to ‘stand down’?”

Solaratov on November 27, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Ambassador Rice, please raise your right hand. Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Ambassador Rice: “Oh, hell no…”

Moose Drool on November 27, 2012 at 10:27 PM

Have any of the survivors been interviewed?

claudius on November 27, 2012 at 3:11 PM

This.
All it will take is one Patriot to open the spigot.

Is there not one out there? I hope there are dozens or perhaps hundreds.

I had hoped Petreaus would have stepped up.

seesalrun2 on November 27, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Why was U.S. intelligence still leaning towards the protest theory on Sunday, September 16th, when a Libyan guard who was wounded in the consulate attack had already told McClatchy three days earlier that there had never been any protest?

AP, the premise of your question is wrong, because the Intel Community knew withing hours of hearing about this attack that it is terrorist related. When Clapper states he depended on the intel from the IC, he means the CIA.

Q: There are 16+ members of the IC, so why depend on 1?

A: Because they’re the only agency willing to float that balloon for Obama.

DO NOT presume Obama or Clapper (or anyone else) ‘listened’ to anyone but the Clintonian CIA when they wanted to pull the wool over our eyes.

Miss_Anthrope on November 27, 2012 at 11:49 PM

The whole administration is lying.

Benghazi was a “secret” operation to transfer left over weapons
from Libya using the Muslim Brotherhood as a conduit to Syrian
rebel groups, etc. to destabilize Assad.

Amjean on November 27, 2012 at 11:54 PM

Now, they are blaming the FBI for altering the talking points.

How long until Eric Holder is asked about his crack-head team of political jerks that made up these lies for the American people?

Freddy on November 28, 2012 at 12:49 AM

For the scholar everyone claims she is, she seems rather dull-witted. Reminds me of a law review President we are supposed to think smart. hmmm

pat on November 28, 2012 at 1:22 AM

What race is a liar?

What race is staggeringly stupid?

Rice is both.

So Rice is her own race. To the bottom.

Meanwhile, in two months, we have yet to hear Obama or anyone in his crew say:

We screwed up.”

So they lie and lie and lie and lie and lie.

profitsbeard on November 28, 2012 at 1:52 AM

Susan Rice: On second thought, there was no protest before the Benghazi attack

Only Democrats and Arabs can get away with 180 degree spin such as this.

MaiDee on November 28, 2012 at 2:30 AM

Susan Rice: On second thought, there was no protest before the Benghazi attack

Only Democrats and Arabs can get away with 180 degree spin such as this.x

MaiDee on November 28, 2012 at 2:30 AM

Oh dear, susan, whatever arises from your protestations, prevarications, charm offensive, or mixed messages … the Obama bus awaits you

Jimbobby on November 28, 2012 at 5:16 AM

My take.

kingsjester on November 28, 2012 at 6:45 AM

Susan Rice: On second thought, there was no protest before the Benghazi attack

She’s channeling her inner My Cousin Vinny: “Everything that I said before was bullshit.”

Jay Carney’s sick and tired of Obama’s flacks and mouthpieces being beaten up by the press

Aww, I guess being the Mouth of Sauron is hard.

Physics Geek on November 28, 2012 at 8:16 AM

Who/what was the origin of the blame-a-movie lie?

Subpoena YouTube’s files to see if govt IP addresses accessed the movie before the riots.

Akzed on November 28, 2012 at 9:42 AM

Rice, in a statement issued Tuesday, said she and acting CIA director Michael Morrell met the senators to discuss her Sept. 16 comments.

“In the course of the meeting, we explained that the talking points provided by the intelligence community, and the initial assessment upon which they were based, were incorrect in a key respect: There was no protest or demonstration in Benghazi,” Rice said.

… I get the feeling, even though none of the press reports say it, that the biggest loser in yesterday’s meeting may be acting CIA director Michael Morrell, who probably “deep-sixed” his prospects to be confirmed as CIA director.

J_Crater on November 28, 2012 at 10:21 AM

Ambassador Rice, did the president or SOS explain to you why $70 million of my tax money was spent on an apology infomercial about the video? And why was the apology deployed before the “investigation” was completed?

Ms. Crowly, do you know the answer? Your lordandsaviour said it was a terrorist attack immediately, right? (Say it again loudly and with meaning, Candy; check the transcript.) So, why did he spend my hard earned tax money to condemn the video?

[chirp, chirp, chirp ...]

Where is Mrs. Clinton? With whom is General Petreous sleeping this week?

texacalirose on November 28, 2012 at 10:27 AM

She has evolved on this issue. Leftists “evolve” because they’re so much smarter than conservatives…

Pest on November 28, 2012 at 10:35 AM

What about the other two big questions?

1. Why was Stevens even there on 9/11, and without very heavy security, given the info then about the terrorists presence in the area? Whatever was going on clearly Stevens himself didn’t have to be there then, especially with rioting elsewhere – a no brainer.

2. Why was military help stopped or not sent during the attack?

Where is the Stevens family on this? Stupidity & criminal negligence left Stevens and others needlessly dead and they seem to be OK with it?

Chessplayer on November 28, 2012 at 11:14 AM

We stressed that neither I nor anyone else in and the Administration intended to mislead the American people at any stage consistently in this process, and the Administration updated Congress and the American people as our assessments evolved lies became obvious.

Somewhat closer to reality.

Freelancer on November 28, 2012 at 11:31 AM

While we certainly wish that we had had perfect information just days after the terrorist attack, as is often the case, the intelligence assessment has evolved.

Um, the ‘intelligence’ wrought by the live video that showed NO protest or demonstration was not a part of the ‘perfect information’ sought?

Meh.

socalcon on November 28, 2012 at 2:43 PM

We stressed that neither I nor anyone else in the Administration intended to mislead the American people at any stage in this process, and the Administration updated Congress and the American people as our assessments evolved.

I can stress that I have a unicorn in my backyard that farts both gold nuggets and fossil fuel, thus solving the country’s energy and budget problems, but that doesn’t make it the case.

socalcon on November 28, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Bush lied had bad intelligence, so what’s the big deal if Obama did, too?

People died. Look, a video!

The Democrat Lying Contortionist Party.

profitsbeard on November 29, 2012 at 3:18 AM

Leave Obama alone!
He’s the first half-white president we’ve ever had.
And Rice? … She’s doing the best she can.

RedManBlueState on November 29, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Follow up question:

If they knew his was not a film protest – why the Hell did they spend taxpayer money for thise ridiculous appeasement commercials to be run in Pokeeston? Why did Barry and Hillary still go on their public apology tour? Why did they still crucify a private citizen for a film they knew was not the cause?

Why does noone in the press ask this?

WhaleBellied on November 29, 2012 at 5:44 PM

Probably would have been better if she just came out and said that on the 5 Sunday morning shows, she knew the truth, but chose to lie.

That being so, I’m guessing that when Obummer was talking, several times about the video, he was lying. Then, I guess that Hillary is also guilty of the same at the UN. Then, how many times has Carney lied to the press corps. Boy, if I was a reporter, I’d be reeeeeely upset.

So far, only Rice has been called on this untrughfullness.

During the 7 hour firefight when 4 Americans were abandoned to die, where was Obummer? Did he have a date with his choom gang? Have some hollywood idiots over? Evening golf?

So many questions, so few straight answers.

Molon Labe

joelj31 on November 29, 2012 at 10:38 PM

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