Mystery: Virginia gun violence falls as gun sales soar
posted at 1:51 pm on November 27, 2012 by Mary Katharine Ham
Freedom preserved and less crime for everyone. Nifty, huh?
Gun-related violent crime in Virginia has dropped steadily over the past six years as the sale of firearms has soared to a new record, according to an analysis of state crime data with state records of gun sales.
The total number of firearms purchased in Virginia increased 73 percent from 2006 to 2011. When state population increases are factored in, gun purchases per 100,000 Virginians rose 63 percent.
But the total number of gun-related violent crimes fell 24 percent over that period, and when adjusted for population, gun-related offenses dropped more than 27 percent, from 79 crimes per 100,000 in 2006 to 57 crimes in 2011.
The numbers appear to contradict a long-running popular narrative that more guns cause more violent crime, said Virginia Commonwealth University professor Thomas R. Baker, who compared Virginia crime data for those years with gun-dealer sales estimates obtained by the Richmond Times-Dispatch.
Correlation isn’t causation, of course, but what’s interesting about this research is how thoroughly it blows out the traditional causal argument of gun-control advocates. How thoroughly?
Thomas R. Baker, the professor who did this research for the Richmond Times-Dispatch:
“While there is a wealth of academic literature attempting to demonstrate the relationship between guns and crime, a very simple and intuitive demonstration of the numbers seems to point away from the premise that more guns leads to more crime, at least in Virginia,” said Baker, who specializes in research methods and criminology theory and has an interest in gun issues…
“So while it’s difficult to make a direct causal link (that more guns are resulting in less crime), the numbers certainly present that that’s a real possibility,” Baker added.
The opposite – that more guns are causing more crime – cannot be derived from the numbers, he said.“It’s mathematically not possible, because the relationship is a negative relationship – they’re moving in the opposite direction,” Baker said. “So the only thing it could be is that more guns are causing less crime.”
So, let’s try it a different way. Just handguns!
Handgun-related offenses account for the majority of violent crimes committed in Virginia.
Because rifles and shotguns are used far less often to commit violent crimes, Baker said, one could argue that the purchase of those types of weapons is falsely inflating the total gun purchases in relation to total gun crime.So Baker also examined the relationship between handgun purchases and handgun-related crime. He found a similar trend.
Handgun purchases in Virginia increased 112 percent from 2006 to 2011, but violent crimes committed with handguns fell by nearly 22 percent. When adjusted for population increases, handgun purchases rose a little more than 100 percent, but violent crimes committed with handguns dropped 26 percent, according to Baker’s analysis.
And, one more time, for the gun-control crowd. This time, we’ll take all crimes attributed to unknown gun types and assume they were committed with handguns. That oughtta do the trick.
“In fact, if all unknown gun types used in violent gun crimes are assumed to have been handguns, then handgun-related violent crime decreased just over 24 percent from 2006 to 2011,” he said.
And, for the finale, a gun-control lobbyist is reduced to using the talking points of gun-rights activists:
“It’s quite possible that you can sell a whole lot more guns and crime is still going down,” Goddard said. “But is the crime going down because more people are buying guns, or is the crime going down because the crime is going down?”
Goddard said he would not have expected a rise in crime from a rise in legal gun sales, because legal gun buyers are not usually criminals – otherwise they would not pass a background check to get them. “Predicting the actions of criminals by analyzing the behavior of legal gun buyers is not likely to be productive,” he said.
In 2011, Central Virginia accounted for most of the state’s gun sales, but coming in close behind was the bluest part of the state— Northern Virginia. NoVa has a much higher population than Central Virginia, so the per capita purchases would be lower, but I did not expect such a large chunk of gun sales to come in this fairly liberal bastion. Maybe we’re creating converts up here.

So, who are the people buying all these guns? That’s right, ladies.
Many gun dealers point to women as the most significant demographic of new gun buyers. “We are seeing far more women now — empowering themselves I guess is the word for it,” said Marcus, of Bob’s Gun Shop in Norfolk.
Colonial Shooting Academy in Henrico has been selling out its eight-hour women-only basic pistol instruction classes for the past three months, said Ed Coleman, the general manager.
“The fastest-growing segment of the gun-owning population is women,” Coleman said. “The numbers of women that are buying firearms for the first time are far exceeding men.”
And, if you won’t listen to research, listen to Ice-T.
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No worries. Our DC GOP geniuses in leadership will find a way to give Barry the lead again.
hawkeye54 on May 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM
Obama fatigue has set in already. For dems that is. I was tired of him just knowing who and what he was back in early 2008. Welcome to the funk libs.
DanMan on May 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM
Yeah, but who else do they have?
hawkeye54 on May 9, 2013 at 6:55 PM
Obama’s response: “Let me be clear — Quack! Quack!”
KS Rex on May 9, 2013 at 6:55 PM
What else can they “win”?
Del Dolemonte on May 9, 2013 at 6:56 PM
You missed spelled it: limp d!ck.
except when Reggie comes calling.
I want to watch the one spin out of control. Literally.
AllahsNippleHair on May 9, 2013 at 6:57 PM
Several months late on that. Where were they last November?
GarandFan on May 9, 2013 at 6:59 PM
I don’t really have Obama fatigue right now. My frustration is with the Senate Gangbangers.
Wigglesworth on May 9, 2013 at 6:59 PM
How’s those student loan fees going? Higher rates and higher cost to go to school now that the Govt’s got the “business”? That worked out as well as RobertObamaCare, didn’t it?
Rovin on May 9, 2013 at 6:59 PM
They both suck.
And remember 42% didn’t even know ObamaCare is the law of the land as of last week.
1-20-17
PappyD61 on May 9, 2013 at 7:00 PM
Lame Duck Liar. The Benghazi Bullsh*tter. The Teleprompter Reader In Chief.
One
Big
Ass
Mistake
America
Basilsbest on May 9, 2013 at 7:01 PM
Does this just reveal how close the GOP and the rat-eared wonder are in policy?
davidk on May 9, 2013 at 7:01 PM
Joe Scarborough … check your registation
J_Crater on May 9, 2013 at 7:03 PM
Quack! Quack! Thump! Quack! Quack! Thump!
davidk on May 9, 2013 at 7:03 PM
Another worthless poll.
Bottom line is make a difference voters are the Food Stampers and other benefit receivers and they all swing Democrat…
albill on May 9, 2013 at 7:06 PM
Not bad for a leaderless party demonized by the media non stop. Now just imagine if the GOP had a spine!
Jack_Burton on May 9, 2013 at 7:08 PM
Circling the wagons for The One. But since he’s a lame duck, it okay to begin to consider disagreeing with Obama as Dems start to position themselves for 2016.
JimLennon on May 9, 2013 at 7:10 PM
Gun Protectors—1
Gun Grabbers —-0
canopfor on May 9, 2013 at 7:18 PM
Bravo Can!
Rovin on May 9, 2013 at 7:30 PM
They do have a spine. Just look how hard they are pushing “immigration” reform against the will of the people.
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Mimzey on May 9, 2013 at 7:33 PM
I’d like to hear Johnny Carsons response as to just what kind of lame duck he is, as in ” he is so lame even Sheila Jackson Lee won’t greet him when he speaks to congress.”
tim c on May 9, 2013 at 7:50 PM
A two day old tuna sandwich could be tied with or ahead of ObamThe guy has accomplished about as much
scalleywag on May 9, 2013 at 8:03 PM
canopfor on May 9, 2013 at 7:18 PM
Bravo Can!
Rovin on May 9, 2013 at 7:30 PM
Rovin:———-:O
canopfor on May 9, 2013 at 8:11 PM
Tell a lie often enough, loud enough… They are just trying to write the narrative hoping that if enough people believe it, it will become the truth.
deepdiver on May 9, 2013 at 8:22 PM
and now even David Frum is criticizing the schumer/rubio thing?
immigration reform must really suck bad
oh well, Mario…here’s a clue…when Frum is off the reservation, time for you to have an ‘awakening’..and quick
http://minx.cc/?post=339838
r keller on May 9, 2013 at 8:24 PM
Lame fluck is more like it.
A bigger charlatanic thug the land never had.
Schadenfreude on May 9, 2013 at 9:31 PM
Calling him a Lame Duck isn’t right. He’s no Duck.
trigon on May 10, 2013 at 12:54 AM
Why would anyone compare the GOP’s to Obama’s on anything at this point?
Obama’s not going to be an election opponent for anyone in the GOP ever going forward.
It’s as meaningless as it would have been to compare Obama’s number’s to Bush’s numbers in 2008. Bush wasn’t running.
To quote Hillary, “What difference, at this point, does it make?”
VekTor on May 10, 2013 at 5:34 PM
Should have been “GOP’s numbers to Obama’s numbers“
VekTor on May 10, 2013 at 5:35 PM
There is excise tax on all alcoholic beverages, but beer, wine, and distilled liquor are all licensed and tracked separately.
gryphon202 on May 12, 2013 at 8:34 PM