Yep, it’s time for a “Walking Dead” thread

posted at 10:12 pm on November 26, 2012 by Allahpundit

Some Greenroom commenters were asking for it so here it is. Random thoughts:

1. We’re down to two compelling characters, the Governor and Merle, and Merle barely qualifies as a character. He seems to have no inner life except wanting to know where his brother is and I’m not sure if that’s because he misses him or because he misses tormenting him. Why he allows himself to be ordered around by the Governor when he’s willing to brutalize everyone else he encounters, I have no idea. If you had asked me to guess what he would do once he made it to Woodbury, I would have guessed that he’d shoot the Governor in the face within the first five minutes and had the rest of the town under his thumb in the next 10. But oh well. He’s a livewire onscreen and unpredictable moment to moment, and that’s more than you can say for the rest.

2. I haven’t read the comics but … we’re supposed to like Michonne, no? She saved Andrea, she sensed that the Governor is evil, she wields that sword like she’s the samurai queen — she has all the hallmarks of a bad-ass whom you should be rooting for. I’m not. She’s a drag in every scene she’s in. The alleged friendship between her and Andrea feels completely synthetic, mainly because Michonne can’t say more than five words at a time and is always in “hiss” mode. You would think that a show that’s taken heat for marginalizing its black characters (T-Dog and Oscar each got/get maybe two lines per ep) would want to flesh out someone who’s become central to the plot. Nope. She does three things, episode after episode: She glowers at people, kills a few zombies, and has some sort of short, terse confrontation with one of the other leads. That’s Michonne. Episode after episode. Zzzzzzz.

3. The almost-rape scene between the Governor and Maggie was solid, partly because it didn’t go all the way. One of the things about the show that’s always rung false is that it’s a story about men behaving like savages as society breaks down around them and yet the women are all mercifully spared from sexual attacks. The only one I can remember is when Shane got rough with Lori, and she managed to get away. I don’t fault the producers for not mining that narrative vein; no one wants to see it onscreen, especially amid broad comic-book horror like this, which is why zombie movies almost as a rule tend to stay away from it. (“28 Days Later” is a notable exception.) Even so, it’s hard to compute how an unhinged degenerate like Merle manages not to cross the line with the women of Woodbury. The scene with Maggie and the Governor was an elegant way of raising the subject. Nothing too graphic, but the degradation was visceral. They didn’t go any further because they didn’t need to. They made their point.

4. Everyone’s high-fiving over the scenes of Glenn standing up to Merle and then kicking zombie ass but to me that’s an example of the show losing its nerve. They get (and deserve) credit for being willing to kill off major characters like Lori and Shane out of the blue, but you knew watching it last night that they weren’t going to let Glenn get his throat ripped out by the undead sitting bound in that chair. That’s not how they roll. Almost always, when a major character dies, it’s attached to some momentous act of heroism. Lori dies in childbirth; T-Dog dies sacrificing himself to protect that woman whose name I can never remember; Shane dies in an epic struggle with Rick and is then finished off by little Carl. Rarely does anyone simply get ambushed by a zombie and eaten. It’s too undignified for a Major Character, but that’s weak: In a true zombie apocalypse, that’s how most people would die. And the pity of it is, had they let Glenn be devoured by Merle’s zombie last night, it would have been greatly more shocking and affecting than Lori’s or T-Dog’s death. Zombie killing on the show has now become so rote that it’s like watching a video game. The fight between Glenn and Merle’s zombie was the first scary encounter of the season that I can remember. I realize that this is basically just a soap opera with the zombies as part of the set, but they should retain some element of peril, yes?

Also, I’m a little bummed that the writers made sure to have Michonne stab that guy in the cabin before he was tossed to the wolves outside the door. True horror requires that he be pushed out there alive. Basic stuff here, guys.


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Why you hatin’, AP?!

blatantblue on November 26, 2012 at 10:14 PM

I really am not down with a mid season finale, though.

blatantblue on November 26, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Quit watching after the first episode this season. Just didn’t feel compelled to watch it anymore for some reason.

Mark1971 on November 26, 2012 at 10:18 PM

Yep, it’s time for a “Walking Dead” thread

There were nearly 10 million less of them on Nov 6th..

Electrongod on November 26, 2012 at 10:20 PM

It’s better than being stuck on that farm looking for the little girl (who’s in the barn, btw…) week after week.

blue13326 on November 26, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Just finished the Season One and Two offerings on Netflix over Thanksgiving…

Just like the networks soaps, I’ll be satisfied to get updated every now and then on Hottair.

Thx for the synopsis of this season, so far.

socalcon on November 26, 2012 at 10:22 PM

No one is watching Revolution? Sad face…

Fallon on November 26, 2012 at 10:23 PM

I felt so bad for Glenn.

portlandon on November 26, 2012 at 10:27 PM

Eh, at least there was some action in last nights episode. But yeah, totally agree, no one even worries about the zombies anymore and they’re kind of becoming just a boring side story.

Also, in season 1 Rick and someone else (too lazy to look it up) covered themselves in zombie inards and blood, and it started to lightly rain, and the zombies could smell them. Michonne has a little bit of zombie blood on her, yet is openly bleeding and the zombies basically totally ignore her?

Timin203 on November 26, 2012 at 10:28 PM

I really am not down with a mid season finale, though.

blatantblue on November 26, 2012 at 10:14 PM

What the heck is a mid-season finale anyway?

No one is watching Revolution? Sad face…

Fallon on November 26, 2012 at 10:23 PM

Oh yes we are. :)

Connie on November 26, 2012 at 10:30 PM

Governor = Obama?

faraway on November 26, 2012 at 10:31 PM

Dale died out of the blue by a ninja zombie

RizzyG on November 26, 2012 at 10:32 PM

The writers are doing a very good job of making me hate the Governor. Looking forward to his comeuppance.

Dongemaharu on November 26, 2012 at 10:32 PM

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzombiezzzzzzzzzzzzz……

NotCoach on November 26, 2012 at 10:32 PM

3. The almost-rape scene between the Governor and Maggie was solid, partly because it didn’t go all the way. One of the things about the show that’s always rung false is that it’s a story about men behaving like savages as society breaks down around them and yet the women are all mercifully spared from sexual attacks. The only one I can remember is when Shane got rough with Lori, and she managed to get away. I don’t fault the producers for not mining that narrative vein; no one wants to see it onscreen, especially amid broad comic-book horror like this, which is why zombie movies almost as a rule tend to stay away from it. (“28 Days Later” is a notable exception.) Even so, it’s hard to compute how an unhinged degenerate like Merle manages not to cross the line with the women of Woodbury. The scene with Maggie and the Governor was an elegant way of raising the subject. Nothing too graphic, but the degradation was visceral. They didn’t go any further because they didn’t need to. They made their point.

I’ve heard that in the comics (haven’t read them myself), the Governor rapes Michonne repeatedly. This seemed to be a way for the show to half-heartedly approach the Governor’s brutality.

Also, its really the first chance you’ve had all season to see the Governor as a villain. Pretty much all of his other actions (including the killing of the National Guard patrol) could be spun as due to (over)-zealous defense of Woodbury. (Think about it — bringing in a heavily armed National Guard patrol, people who have been trained how to fight, risks a coup that could result in the citizens living in tyranny). Keeping his daughter alive is not all that far from what Hershel did on the farm, and who doubts that Hershel is a good guy?

The authors needed to use the capture of Glenn and Maggie to show that the Governor really is a villain. From that perspective, his treatment of her was effective (albeit a little weak).

Revenant on November 26, 2012 at 10:33 PM

Rarely does anyone simply get ambushed by a zombie and eaten.

Dale died that way. But he was the conscience of the group and I think his death symbolized how quickly morality can be gone forever.

portlandon on November 26, 2012 at 10:34 PM

Dale died out of the blue by a ninja zombie

Yes, Dale is the exception. He did get ambushed.

Allahpundit on November 26, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Also, its really the first chance you’ve had all season to see the Governor as a villain. Pretty much all of his other actions (including the killing of the National Guard patrol) could be spun as due to (over)-zealous defense of Woodbury. (Think about it — bringing in a heavily armed National Guard patrol, people who have been trained how to fight, risks a coup that could result in the citizens living in tyranny). Keeping his daughter alive is not all that far from what Hershel did on the farm, and who doubts that Hershel is a good guy?

You forgot closet full of floating heads….

RizzyG on November 26, 2012 at 10:37 PM

Yes, Dale is the exception. He did get ambushed.

Allahpundit on November 26, 2012 at 10:35 PM

And the season 1 ambush at the campsite where Andrea’s sister buys it.

I just got done reading “World War Z”. I think I’m getting over-done with the Zombie genre.

Nethicus on November 26, 2012 at 10:38 PM

The authors needed to use the capture of Glenn and Maggie to show that the Governor really is a villain. From that perspective, his treatment of her was effective (albeit a little weak).

Revenant on November 26, 2012 at 10:33 PM

If TWD was on Showtime or HBO channel, you can bet that the rape scene would have gone a lot farther. Remember, this is AMC.

portlandon on November 26, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Quit watching after the first episode this season. Just didn’t feel compelled to watch it anymore for some reason.

Mark1971 on November 26, 2012 at 10:18 PM

Same thing happened to me after watching a few episodes of Mad Men last season. It all of a sudden just fell flat.

JPeterman on November 26, 2012 at 10:39 PM

Teleporting zombies are a real problem in this show.

Maybe that nerd Milton can do some experiments or something.

sentinelrules on November 26, 2012 at 10:40 PM

You forgot closet full of floating heads….

RizzyG on November 26, 2012 at 10:37 PM

Definitely strange. But then, so is keeping a barn full of Walkers due to a misguided belief that they are only sick people.

Look in the background — there are ~75 people who seem to be peacefully living their lives. Its not like Rick or Shane or Hershel haven’t made tough decisions in the past, or started to act a little strange in the process. I know that the show is trying depict the Governor as the villain, but they needed a little extra to get him there — hence the Maggie scene.

Revenant on November 26, 2012 at 10:41 PM

If TWD was on Showtime or HBO channel, you can bet that the rape scene would have gone a lot farther. Remember, this is AMC.

portlandon on November 26, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Yeah, probably.

Revenant on November 26, 2012 at 10:42 PM

The Governor may have saved Merle life when he was wondering around missing a hand. They have been together for at least the 10 months. And as the Governor lets Merle do the zombie fights he lets follows the Governor orders, for now. At the end Merle was the one who told the Governor no one could survive in the “red zone” when plenty of people could have survived. This will be the biggest threat to the Governor and his community. Outside groups that could upset their order, like the army guys if they found the town.

Just think on how much food the guy in the cabin had. He survived inside so long his dog died, without going outside to see the walkers and the end of society (there are no cops to call) for at least 10 months. The lack of showing the food supply closet and weapons supply room that they have is one thing that is missing but that may be to much to ask from a TV show. They could make there own bullets but show someone making the raw gun power and melting steal to make bullets. They have no one who could do that so they need previous made ones and a lot of them.

tjexcite on November 26, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Just another soap opera for ‘males’, like “Sons of Anarchy” or “Justified” that the clownboys are always yammering about.

The ghost of Chesty Puller says sack up and turn off that sh**.

M240H on November 26, 2012 at 10:44 PM

That “Doctor-Scientist” guy who was doing tests on the dieing guy, bares a striking resemblance to John Ritter, no?

portlandon on November 26, 2012 at 10:45 PM

I stopped watching season two. It just got silly. When they collected the guns from everyone because they weren’t trained, that was it for me.

sharrukin on November 26, 2012 at 10:45 PM

I stopped watching season two. It just got silly. When they collected the guns from everyone because they weren’t trained, that was it for me.

sharrukin on November 26, 2012 at 10:45 PM

But now everyone has guns. Even lil Carl. And he uses it… a lot.

El_Terrible on November 26, 2012 at 10:47 PM

I’ll watch it eventually when Netprix figures out that the rest of their lineup is mostly crap. I watched all of “Hell On Wheels” in one sitting, and with my luck NF will not get the next season.

Bishop on November 26, 2012 at 10:48 PM

On Glenn, I thought the writers were going to throw us a curve ball and do bad things to him. Would have been something.

El_Terrible on November 26, 2012 at 10:48 PM

No one is excited about the second half of the season? I think they’ve built this season pretty darn well. Will probably be the show’s best season so far.

El_Terrible on November 26, 2012 at 10:50 PM

Zombie killing on the show has now become so rote that it’s like watching a video game.

Allah after 9 months even you would be a killing machine.

Oil Can on November 26, 2012 at 10:50 PM

Safe bet that the prisoners are getting their final episode next week?

RizzyG on November 26, 2012 at 10:51 PM

I always wondered why they didn’t hole up inside a WalMart.

faraway on November 26, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Why don’t Zombies eat other Zombies? There should be just one fat Zombie left.

Oil Can on November 26, 2012 at 10:53 PM

Safe bet that the prisoners are getting their final episode next week?

RizzyG on November 26, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Well there’s only 2 of them…

I’m just wondering what exactly Rick’s plan is for going into Woodbury. You’re just going to burst in there blowing stuff up and expect to find Glenn?

El_Terrible on November 26, 2012 at 10:54 PM

As for the zombies being an after thought, after a year of apocalyptic life it should be. The living are more dangerous and are far more unpredictable.

portlandon on November 26, 2012 at 10:55 PM

I actually thought this season’s been pretty good so far. But then, Season Two set the bar really low.

eforhan on November 26, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Definitely strange. But then, so is keeping a barn full of Walkers due to a misguided belief that they are only sick people

Valid, but Herschel was trying to do good. The governor was basking in his aqua-head glory.

RizzyG on November 26, 2012 at 10:55 PM

I always wondered why they didn’t hole up inside a WalMart.

faraway on November 26, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Because the glass and gates wouldn’t hold up against a horde.

El_Terrible on November 26, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Do we call this ‘Blogging Dead’?

faraway on November 26, 2012 at 10:55 PM

But now everyone has guns. Even lil Carl. And he uses it… a lot.

El_Terrible on November 26, 2012 at 10:47 PM

Yeah, but it doesn’t really change how they are approaching the show. They need to build characters that you care about and create a dramatic tension. The entire farm situation was absurd and displayed how out of touch the characters were. If you cannot believe that people would act as they are on screen it dispels the suspension of disbelief.

The zombies are just props so that threat is gone as well. You had kids wondering off like that little girl, and the kid Carl (who then got shot). None of them reacted as if there was any real threat.

sharrukin on November 26, 2012 at 10:56 PM

I always wondered why they didn’t hole up inside a WalMart.

faraway on November 26, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Because Walmart is the only thing more evil than zombies. Haven’t you seen any other movies or TV shows for the last thirty years? All big corporations are Satan incarnate.

NotCoach on November 26, 2012 at 10:56 PM

I’m just wondering what exactly Rick’s plan is for going into Woodbury. You’re just going to burst in there blowing stuff up and expect to find Glenn?

I think they have the psychological edge. The governor seems pretty impressed that only ten cleared the prison. Maybe they’ll probe for a bit and then burst in

RizzyG on November 26, 2012 at 10:59 PM

Valid, but Herschel was trying to do good. The governor was basking in his aqua-head glory.

RizzyG on November 26, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Eh, tomato, tomaato. I could see Rick keeping heads in tanks as Emblems of Guilt, for instance. More likely that the Governor views them as trophies, but we only get one scene — at least so far.

Revenant on November 26, 2012 at 11:00 PM

I’m just wondering what exactly Rick’s plan is for going into Woodbury.

Rick’s not the brightest bulb.

faraway on November 26, 2012 at 11:01 PM

Would a walking dead show in Texas even be worth watching? All the zombies would have killed in the first 3 weeks, and Rick Perry would have declared that Texas would no longer be participating in the zombie apocalypse.

portlandon on November 26, 2012 at 11:01 PM

AP, wasn’t the survivalist dude only stabbed in that area where the shoulder meets the chest? It didn’t look like it went through the heart to me, so you could say he was alive. Instant death from a wound like that? Probably not. But passing out from the pain? Hell yes. Remember walkers won’t go for dead meat…if they did, how come the Arby’s isn’t packed?

Ryan Anthony on November 26, 2012 at 11:01 PM

Zombie killing on the show has now become so rote that it’s like watching a video game.

I do agree with this. The prison must have given them a wagon-full of bullets because suddenly it’s not so important to save bullets or be quiet (unless approaching Woodbury). Even Andrea putting a knife through the freshly-reanimated’ old feller’s skull in the nick of time.

eforhan on November 26, 2012 at 11:02 PM

Obama would be arresting people for racism against the zombie race. He would have buses rolling up taking them to the polling places.

faraway on November 26, 2012 at 11:03 PM

And AFA Merle goes, my guess is that a guy like him turns on the Governor next episode.

Ryan Anthony on November 26, 2012 at 11:04 PM

McCain and Lindsey would be trying to make citizens out of them.

faraway on November 26, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Some of y’all are wanting too much from this show.

Its entertaining if you want. Something else to gripe about if you swing that way.

cozmo on November 26, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Where is the black guy & his son from the first season? Do you think we’ll ever see them again?

portlandon on November 26, 2012 at 11:08 PM

Obama would be arresting people for racism against the zombie race. He would have buses rolling up taking them to the polling places.

faraway on November 26, 2012 at 11:03 PM

I think that may happen in the next season of True Blood.

El_Terrible on November 26, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Where is the black guy & his son from the first season? Do you think we’ll ever see them again?

portlandon on November 26, 2012 at 11:08 PM

I think they show up again in the comics.

El_Terrible on November 26, 2012 at 11:10 PM

No gay survivors?

faraway on November 26, 2012 at 11:11 PM

No gay survivors?

faraway on November 26, 2012 at 11:11 PM

The prisoners?

El_Terrible on November 26, 2012 at 11:16 PM

I’m sorry but this program is one of the things wrong with this country. I can’t imagine why anyone would want to watch this crap!

Pomai on November 26, 2012 at 11:21 PM

Why didn’t Michonne tell Rick and the group about Andrea? I found it strange that Rick would be so trusting of Michnonne so quickly.

I thought Glenn was going to get his hand chopped off and was relieved that Maggie didn’t get raped. Lori passed the baton to Andrea who is now the most annoying character on TWD.

RedRobin145 on November 26, 2012 at 11:21 PM

I always wondered why they didn’t hole up inside a WalMart.

faraway on November 26, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Because there might be actual living WalMart customers and employees in the place who are scarier than the zombies. And I say that as a loyal WalMart customer.

Bishop on November 26, 2012 at 11:23 PM

Give me Homeland and Dexter.

derft on November 26, 2012 at 11:32 PM

I’m sorry but this program is one of the things wrong with this country. I can’t imagine why anyone would want to watch this crap!

Pomai on November 26, 2012 at 11:21 PM

Don’t be hatin’ on TWD man. Don’t do it.

If it weren’t for this and Game of Thrones, I would probably dump my DirecTV.

Remember, zombie killin’ all day gets kinda boring. You gotta have a little story to go with it. And remember, The Walking Dead refers to the living, not the walkers.

Also remember, everyone makes fun of the redneck until the zombie apocalypse.

john1schn on November 26, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Give me Homeland and Dexter.

derft on November 26, 2012 at 11:32 PM

Not a fan of Dexter, and there’s only 2 things I like about Homeland.

john1schn on November 26, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Glenn is hardcore. He as willing to see Maggie get capped rather than giving up the location of the group.

Kataklysmic on November 26, 2012 at 11:42 PM

*was

Kataklysmic on November 26, 2012 at 11:43 PM

Glenn is hardcore. He as willing to see Maggie get capped rather than giving up the location of the group.

Kataklysmic on November 26, 2012 at 11:42 PM

That’s why the governor pointed the gun at Glenn. He knew Maggie would break.

john1schn on November 26, 2012 at 11:43 PM

That’s why the governor pointed the gun at Glenn. He knew Maggie would break.

john1schn on November 26, 2012 at 11:43 PM

Indeed. I disagree with AP about Merle and the Gov being the only two interesting characters. Glenn and Carl are right up there.

Kataklysmic on November 26, 2012 at 11:50 PM

Just what Hot Air needs, Eeyore’s screwed up symbolic illogic and selective memory applied to something besides politics. Feh.

And he forgets his outlook-twin Dale, the first main character to get waxed, somehow caught by surprise in the middle of an empty field, while being a nosy parker. But that doesn’t fit his analysis so it’s forgotten.

rayra on November 27, 2012 at 12:04 AM

Andrea is trying to become the new Lori. When she is confronted with a decision, one being no brainer obviously right, and the other wrong, she always makes the wrong decision. Why trust someone who coddled you and saved your life when you can hop in bed with a creepy guy with booze? It was easy to hate Lori, Andrea is just stupid, so not easy to hate.

The promoters pretty much gave away the impending show down between Daryl and Merle during one of the previews. Altho it is pretty much expected since Merle’s return.

Michonne was a good character until the she was taken to the village, she has become pretty unintelligible since. the series doesn’t spend enough time developing characters, and dwells on minutiae at other times. They could have gotten rid of the hermit in the woods sequence and spent more time with Michonne.

Michonne is a big character in the comics, rivaling Rick, but has made almost no impact after seven episodes, eight if you count the season 2 finale.

Sometimes they are smart, such as coming up with a militaristic system for clearing out zombies, yet didn’t pick up on using zombies to help overrun the Governor? Especially after the prisoner almost did it to them. Have Daryl throw a bloody dear at the gates and follow the chaos.

Anwho, if they were smart there wouldn’t be a series.

Rode Werk on November 27, 2012 at 12:06 AM

So this is a cartoon or something?

Axe on November 27, 2012 at 12:46 AM

Just another soap opera for ‘males’, like “Sons of Anarchy” or “Justified” that the clownboys are always yammering about.

The ghost of Chesty Puller says sack up and turn off that sh**.

M240H on November 26, 2012 at 10:44 PM

*koff*

Never underestimate the draw of watching someone get a knife to the head by a woman. I watched “Wanted” solely for the purpose of watching Angelina Jolie take the boots to James McAvoy.

“You’re” *punch* “wasting my” *punchsmack* “f-ing time” *knee*

Yep. Mmm hmm.

kim roy on November 27, 2012 at 1:05 AM

It made sense to keep guns out of the hands of the untrained while out in the open especially, but also even in an enclave. Ammo is limited, and gunfire draws walkers.

As to the superficial criticism of the lack of character development of certain players, it actually reflects the real world. Most people aren’t complex Greek tragic heroes. There is no great introspection in them of the sort that “develops” a character. Most are affected by their experiences and environment in very linear, stimulus-response ways.

In short, you wish people were more interesting. So do I. Most are not. The Zombie Apocalypse will not change that essential fact.

Adjoran on November 27, 2012 at 1:39 AM

Why didn’t Michonne tell Rick and the group about Andrea? I found it strange that Rick would be so trusting of Michnonne so quickly.

I thought Glenn was going to get his hand chopped off and was relieved that Maggie didn’t get raped. Lori passed the baton to Andrea who is now the most annoying character on TWD.

RedRobin145 on November 26, 2012 at 11:21 PM

Does Michonne know that it’s Andrea’s former group? You would think she would have to know…her and Andrea spent 8 months together. Together all that time you would suspect Andrea talked about the group a few times. So yeah, not sure why Michonne doesn’t mention Andrea or not sure why she doesn’t know who that group is.

The Notorious G.O.P on November 27, 2012 at 2:07 AM

The near rape scene between the Governor and Maggie would have been much more effective if after he gets behind her at the table, her fear face turns suddenly firm. She stomps on his foot, elbows him in the groin and then while he is doubling up in pain, she removes the gun from his holster and puts it up under his chin.

Maggie: “I’ve been killing armies of reanimated corpes for over a year and you think I’m going to be intimidated by some common perv?”

kurtzz3 on November 27, 2012 at 2:30 AM

Yes, Dale is the exception. He did get ambushed.
Allahpundit on November 26, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Dale died so they could combine the Dale and Hershel characters. almost everything that is happening to Hershel now, happened to Dale in the comics. including the amputation.

warhorse_03826 on November 27, 2012 at 4:45 AM

Two things.

1. Maggie is hot, imho.
2. This last episode sucked. What a waste of time.

xblade on November 27, 2012 at 5:14 AM

The thing I always enjoy about watching this show is the talented performances of the actors. Almost all of them have this type of typical Georgia-style southern accent, and the majority of them are British actors with clearly British accents in real life.

pilamaye on November 27, 2012 at 5:35 AM

No one is watching Revolution? Sad face…

Fallon on November 26, 2012 at 10:23 PM

That show with major plot holes, hints of Agenda 21 and a lead character apparently dropped from Mars after 15 years of chaos and can only handle 2 expressions?

Yes, unfortunately, I am. Still hoping it doesn’t turn into another LOST.

Seriously, couldn’t they find a better actress to play Charlie? I know she’s good looking, but seriously? And the writing for Supernatural is 100x better than the tripe on Revolution. John Favreau should be ashamed to have his name on this show.

LoganSix on November 27, 2012 at 6:35 AM

She stomps on his foot, elbows him in the groin and then while he is doubling up in pain, she removes the gun from his holster and puts it up under his chin.

Maggie: “I’ve been killing armies of reanimated corpes for over a year and you think I’m going to be intimidated by some common perv?”

kurtzz3 on November 27, 2012 at 2:30 AM

Yeah, I was sort of waiting for Maggie to drop him like a hot rock. But, my guess is that they’ll leave the Governor to be offed by Annoying Blonde, after she finds out what he did with Glen and Maggie…… and probably attempting to kill Carol, the baby and Carl at the prison. The scraggly white prison dude is toast.

LoganSix on November 27, 2012 at 7:13 AM

After finally finding an internet source for my TV fix, I’m catching up with TWD, Revolution, Person of Interest, Mentalist, etc. etc. etc.

Yes, TWD and Revolution have serious plot holes (especially Revolution), but it’s either that or filipino game shows and korean dramas on the actual TV here.

The idea of the group holing up in a Walmart is too much like Dawn Of The Dead – that idea has been explored twice now, in the original and the remake. I’m glad they aren’t going that route.

And can I just say this about TWD? – both Carl and his sister ‘Ass-kicker’ are going to need LOTS of therapy when this is all over.

And you just wait – some sort of mash-up between TWD and Revolution is in the works at some network somewhere. No electricity AND zombies. Yeah, I’d just eat my gun at that point.

Timothy S. Carlson on November 27, 2012 at 7:33 AM

The rape scene wasn’t really meant to be a rape. The Governor was asserting his power by threatening rape, to get Maggie to talk. In short, he was torturing her psychologically instead of Merle’s way of beating Glenn for information.

There was some Charles Bronson movie from years ago where he was a spy going after this torturer-for-hire and the guy’s sister. In one scene, when trying to drum up business with some Latin American dictator, the torturer demonstrated that the first step is to humiliate the subject. A man is forcibly stripped, while a woman is made to do it herself.

Maybe I’m too much of a movie buff.

Liam on November 27, 2012 at 7:41 AM

Isn’t that doctor/scientist dude in the town the same guy who plays Alisha Floreck’s gay brother on The Good Wife?

jaimo on November 27, 2012 at 7:49 AM

Thanks for another useless take on The Walking Dead, AP.

Since you don’t care for the show – please stop posting about it.

jackal40 on November 27, 2012 at 7:49 AM

No one is excited about the second half of the season? I think they’ve built this season pretty darn well. Will probably be the show’s best season so far.

El_Terrible on November 26, 2012 at 10:50 PM

I’m down with it this season. S2 was a bit of a drag but they’ve done this season well, with the exception of Michonne.

Watch the episode where Lori and T-Dog die, and see Rick’s reaction when Carl steps out. You will lose it just like I did.

LaughterJones on November 27, 2012 at 7:57 AM

i just dont hate the governor that much yet
i dont know that silly owmans name ioether, and its been 3 years
when rick went nuts with the phone, i almost wanted him eaten
i keep trying to visualize how the baby character thread “ends”, and i cant get there
andrea i started out not liking, then i really started liking her, and now, she’s getting on my nerves again
i read the wiki of the comicbooks, and thought i would lie michonne. AP is right, she’s awful. i hope she gets eaten. soon. and the panga, please. works for uma and daryl. not her.
i like the real dumb kiss*ss convict. he reminds me of the barber in mayberry for some reason.

t8stlikchkn on November 27, 2012 at 8:07 AM

Where are all the child zombies? How come they don’t burst into a house and find a zombie baby in a crib?

Socmodfiscon on November 27, 2012 at 8:47 AM

I can’t believe this show is popular, yet AMC’s Rubicon couldn’t attract an audience.

Please, AMC, get Breaking Bad, Mad Men, or Hell on Wheels back on.

And stop with the reality shows.

BuckeyeSam on November 27, 2012 at 8:49 AM

Gotta say that this season has been the best. This is one of the few times I am actually looking forward to next week to see what happens. They seem to have focused on less talking and more action and drama this season and for me it has worked. I think I can count on one had the number of eye-roll moments this season too which is a huge improvement. As far as Glen becoming a bad ass with Merle and the zombie I was rooting for him and think its the natural progression with his character. Felt right.

crazywater on November 27, 2012 at 8:53 AM

The rape and sexual assault stuff in regards to the Governor is much, much, much, much worse in the comics. So much so that I was incredibly uncomfortable reading it, but the comics are actually so much better than the show its not funny. I’m fine with the show not following the comic and doing its own thing but the comics do everything better.

Sammo21 on November 27, 2012 at 9:03 AM

Rick’s not handling that “3am” phone call very well. (and on a rotary /antique phone???) #losing it

Rovin on November 27, 2012 at 9:10 AM

Once again, the “rules” of the show’s universe dictate that a feeding zombie is a happy zombie who pays no attention to other living prey no matter how close the prey is. After the group tossed the dead hermit out of the cabin, they walked out the back door, around the cabin and then passed less than 20 feet from the zombie horde, which dutifully ignored them while feasting on the hermit.

Another example of how Dale’s death by the zombie who lay in wait for him instead of feasting on the freshly slaughtered cow was extremely lazy writing. It still bugs me.

Dukeboy01 on November 27, 2012 at 9:12 AM

Needs a tiny bit more brainless melodrama. But, as soap operas go, this one has more action than most.

Kind of a boring premise though. There is, almost by definition, nothing in the least bit interesting about the zombie apocalypse going on these days. And this show just confirms the obvious. The whole thing’s too darned meta.

logis on November 27, 2012 at 9:39 AM

Why didn’t Michonne tell Rick and the group about Andrea? I found it strange that Rick would be so trusting of Michnonne so quickly.

I thought Glenn was going to get his hand chopped off and was relieved that Maggie didn’t get raped. Lori passed the baton to Andrea who is now the most annoying character on TWD.

RedRobin145 on November 26, 2012 at 11:21 PM

I agree with all of this.

1. Michonne knew that Andrea was separated from a group and mentioned names like Rick and Carl, et. al. Here she shows up where their are few people alive anyway and the Leader of this new group is Rick and his son Carl. Come on! They spent the whole winter together we are not supposed to believe that Andrea NEVER spoke the names or talked about her group to Michonne!

2. Michonne handles her sword poorly and with little grace. If you want to see true Swordsmanship. Frankly it is so poor that it is annoying to watch. Even with special effects (her disarm of the Governor) she is awkward. Further, the handle of her sword is white lacing, very rare in a sword because white lacing shows handling and dirt so readily, but in this show where washing of the hands is well neigh impossible and gore and blood are flying about, the handle of her sword gleams episode after episode. If should be filthy by now, or we should see scenes of her redoing the wrapping every ten mins. She never even wipes the blade down!

3. I felt the Gov did exactly what he is always preaching, use the minimum force necessary to accomplish the objective (“don’t use a bullet if you can help it”). Glenn was beaten, Maggie merely needed terrorizing. He started slow, found she was strong, but proud, so he disrobed her to crush her pride and make her feel violated, then put a gun to the head of the only thing she cared about.

Just enough.

Bulletchaser on November 27, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Eh, at least there was some action in last nights episode. But yeah, totally agree, no one even worries about the zombies anymore and they’re kind of becoming just a boring side story.

Also, in season 1 Rick and someone else (too lazy to look it up) covered themselves in zombie inards and blood, and it started to lightly rain, and the zombies could smell them. Michonne has a little bit of zombie blood on her, yet is openly bleeding and the zombies basically totally ignore her?

Timin203 on November 26, 2012 at 10:28 PM

Which brings me to something I’ve wondered all along. To be worried about being bitten and not care about open wounds being contaminated with Zombie juice make no sense whatsoever. Whatever, one more season and it’s “Dead”. Now bring on “Breaking Bad” already!

LeftCoastRight on November 27, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Further, the handle of her sword is white lacing, very rare in a sword because white lacing shows handling and dirt so readily, but in this show where washing of the hands is well neigh impossible and gore and blood are flying about, the handle of her sword gleams episode after episode.

This bugs the crap out of me, too. Even if it had started out as white, the tsuka would be pretty close to black by now.

I don’t expect her to be depicted as knowing how to use a sword in a classical sense, and I don’t expect sword use in real combat to look much like kenjutsu katas. I do want some explanation as to how she managed to get that sword, though. It would be hard enough to get one’s hands on a functional katana (i.e., not a cheap decorative replica that would break immediately on use) in post-apocalyptic Georgia. But that isn’t even a katana. It’s either a full-length tachi (extremely rare, as most surviving tachi are cut down from their original forging lengths–and are worth tens of thousands of dollars) with a weirdly long tsuba, or a somewhat shortish nodachi (which, for all intents and purposes, is an item that simply doesn’t exist).

I think the only viable explanation would be that the thing was custom-forged or machined (out of exceptional steel) for her esoteric personal use. Somehow I don’t expect any satisfactory answers on this front…

Blacklake on November 27, 2012 at 11:12 AM

As for the zombies being an after thought, after a year of apocalyptic life it should be. The living are more dangerous and are far more unpredictable.

portlandon on November 26, 2012 at 10:55 PM

True that.

the_souse on November 27, 2012 at 11:12 AM

I always wondered why they didn’t hole up inside a WalMart.

faraway on November 26, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Because there might be actual living WalMart customers and employees in the place who are scarier than the zombies. And I say that as a loyal WalMart customer.

Bishop on November 26, 2012 at 11:23 PM

There was a movie made a few years ago called “The Mist” with some familiar faces holed up in a grocery store fighting off enormous inter-dimensional bugs.

the_souse on November 27, 2012 at 11:18 AM

If a Martian landed on Earth and watched 5 minutes of modern TV he would come away thinking Woman are the Dominant sex of our species. Hollywood is full of IDIOTS that truly believe the crap they make…

Mitch_A on November 27, 2012 at 11:19 AM

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