Quotes of the day

posted at 10:58 pm on November 26, 2012 by Allahpundit

Even as the White House and lawmakers signal optimism about reaching a grand bargain to avert the fiscal cliff before the New Year, President Obama’s liberal allies were battening down the hatches on their position: no cuts to entitlement benefits, at all.

MoveOn.org would not get behind any deal that reduced Medicare, Medicaid, or Social Security benefits, said Ilya Sheyman, campaign director for the liberal group. The AFL-CIO, the nation’s largest labor federation, is equally adamant that benefits should not be cut.

“Our principles are non-negotiable and if the cost for getting the speaker of the House on board is to do something like cut taxes yet again for the rich or cut benefits to the social safety net, we are opposed,” said AFL-CIO spokesman Jeff Hauser, who added that it was better to go over the “fiscal slope” than to bend to Republican demands.

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White House spokesman Jay Carney said today that Social Security is one entitlement program that should be addressed on a “separate track.”

“We should address the drivers of the deficit and Social Security currently is not a driver of the deficit,” Carney told reporters today. The senior retirement program is solvent for another 21 years, at which time recipients could see a reduction in benefits…

“I don’t think you can look at entitlement reform without adjusting the age for retirement,” Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said on Sunday. “I don’t expect the Democrats to go for premium support or a voucher plan, but I do expect them to adjust these entitlement programs before they bankrupt the country and run out of money themselves.”

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Endorsed by Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and by Representative Peter King of New York, the Chambliss decision — one that put him on the other side of Grover Norquist and the conservative base — is reminiscent of what began happening among Democrats in the aftermath of the 1984 Reagan landslide. Old allegiances to traditional Democratic constituencies were re-examined; the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) urged office holders and candidates to adopt centrist rhetoric and a promarket orientation.

It worked. In the 1990s Bill Clinton became the first two-term Democratic president since FDR, and Al Gore — another early DLCer — won the popular vote in 2000. The climatic moment of the New Democrat ascendancy came in 1996, when Clinton declared that “the era of big government” was over.

Republicans are overdue for their own rethinking. After the exhaustion of the first decade of the new century, it’s understandable that such self-examination has been slow in coming, but it apparently has finally come. Whether the GOP is to be pragmatic in the mold of George H.W. Bush or more ideological in the mode of his son is a live question. The Chambliss-Graham-King moment suggests the debate is very much on.

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If taxes are going up anyway because the Bush rates expire, and Republicans can stop them from going up as much as they otherwise would, then pledge-takers deserve some credit for that. Mr. Norquist says it violates his pledge to eliminate deductions without lowering rates, but at the current economic and political moment it is also a service if Republicans prevent tax rates from going up. Speaker John Boehner deserves some leeway to try to mitigate the damage by negotiating a larger tax reform.

All the more so if Mr. Boehner can also get Mr. Obama to agree to significant spending and entitlement reform. This means more than the usual suspects of cuts to doctors and hospitals and means-testing benefits for the affluent.

It means reforms—dotted-line commitments, not promises—that immediately reduce Medicare and Social Security liabilities, that terminate some discretionary programs, and that rein in such scandals as runaway Social Security disability payments. We doubt Mr. Obama will agree to much of this, but Republicans ought to try by putting their proposals out in the open where voters can see them.

The one thing Republicans shouldn’t do is join the media and Democratic chorus that Mr. Norquist and his pledge are the root of our political and economic woes. The real problems are a political class that won’t control its spending and economic policies that are retarding growth. That’s where the GOP should keep its public focus.

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Who cares what Grover Norquist thinks? Organizations such as his Americans for Tax Reform are all right, but irrevocable “pledges” not to do this or that — in this case, never to raise taxes — strike me as simplistic, and severely limit the possible courses of action for those candidates and legislators who sign them. Not that I’m in favor of raising taxes, mind you, nor opposed to something like a flat tax — which in fact I’ve advocated. But silly things like “pledges” do nothing to direct the taxation argument in a fruitful direction, and I don’t understand why Norquist looms so large in Republican thinking.

Then again, if the Democrats are really serious about soaking the rich, why don’t they come out in favor of replacing the income tax — which is basically a mechanism to prevent the upper-middle class from becoming wealthy — with a wealth tax?

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How is this all going to get solved? Our model tells us that House Republicans have to either get their way or be bought off. The president either has to cave, allowing the Bush-era tax cuts to stay the same for the wealthy, or offer something to sweeten the deal. House Republicans owe their majority to the Tea Party. Getting them to vote for a tax-rate increase is not going to come cheap. One solution is a promise from the president and Democrats to reduce tax rates at some future date when paired with comprehensive tax reform. (Obama wants taxes to go up on those making over $250,000 now but is open to having those rates come back down as a part of reform.)

Would Republicans buy such a promise about the future? Why on earth would they trust that these lower rates would ever come to pass? One possible offering the president could make would be a major concession on Medicare and Medicaid. White House spokesman Jay Carney said the president was committed to hard choices. If he’s not going to bend on tax rates and has ruled out touching Social Security (as he essentially has), then there’s only one place left where the president can find real money in the budget-cutting game: health care entitlements. That would show that he was serious about shared sacrifice, and if the changes the president agrees to are large enough, they’d give Republicans cover to accept tough tax changes.

It would also be pretty big news. So let’s amend our model. If the president agrees to change the eligibility requirements for Medicare, that would be worth pausing during the office party. Then we’d have to see if House Republicans would buy it.

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The world has changed and the economic situation is different. Ronald Reagan and Tip O’Neill realized that in the 1980s. I think everything should be on the table. I, myself, am opposed to tax increases. The fact is the speaker and the majority leader and the president are gonna be in a room, trying to find the best package. I’m not gonna prejudge it. And I’m just saying we should not be taking iron clad positions. I have faith in John Boehner to put together a good package.

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thatsafactjack on November 27, 2012 at 2:51 AM

I don’t have many ‘real life’ friends-so this is my social life.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 27, 2012 at 2:55 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on November 27, 2012 at 2:40 AM

THWACK

Axe on November 27, 2012 at 2:42 AM

DOUBLE THWACK

SparkPlug on November 27, 2012 at 2:55 AM

Wayfarin’ Pilgrim – Buchanan

thatsafactjack on November 27, 2012 at 2:56 AM

I got a DOUBLE THWACK Bishop.

SparkPlug on November 27, 2012 at 2:56 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on November 27, 2012 at 2:55 AM

I know that’s not true… about your ‘real life friends’… but I know you have a great many here on the QOTD. It’s a pleasure to see you. :)

thatsafactjack on November 27, 2012 at 2:58 AM

Thanks to Jackie we will get more than 2 pages.

Hey the GOPe will betray themselves.

SparkPlug on November 27, 2012 at 2:58 AM

Evenin! My beloved is going to soon wonder why the hell his ‘bride’ of 10+ years is still on the effing ‘net rather than in bed. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on November 27, 2012 at 2:49 AM

Put a note on the fridge:

“Clean this kitchen before I get home. Or else.”

Don’t address it — just let it find someone. :)

Axe on November 27, 2012 at 2:58 AM

Blues After Hours – Pine Top Perkins

thatsafactjack on November 27, 2012 at 3:01 AM

notice how this happens after every election. drum up some phoney emergency so that they can pass a massive bill. this is nothing but the pols paying off their campaign donors. watch there will be “stimulus ” in any package. Spedning will increase taxes will increase. those that bought the politicans the election for them will be paid back with taxpayer money pay about 10 to 1 return on investment. the debt will go up nothing will be solved. these people do this after EVERY election. its how the game is played and they do it during the lame duck session. Wonder why? if you still are wondering you aren’t paying attention.

unseen on November 27, 2012 at 3:04 AM

Axe on November 27, 2012 at 2:58 AM

Him? Do housework? ROTFLMBO! I had to jump on Spawn’s a** to get him to get his rap off of his bedroom floor. He was all ‘I pay you RENT!’ WhatEVAH. he’s living in MY(OUR) effing house! He cleaned-up his room.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 27, 2012 at 3:04 AM

Gravity – Mayer

thatsafactjack on November 27, 2012 at 3:09 AM

nice to read a thread where not even one poster shows the least sign of hope.

can’t see a silver lining on any cloud myself. trying to get to sleep, but the 53% keep sticking their hands in my pockets.

renalin on November 27, 2012 at 3:09 AM

renalin on November 27, 2012 at 3:09 AM

You need to read up thread a little farther. Not everyone is still crying in their beer.

thatsafactjack on November 27, 2012 at 3:14 AM

As The Years Go Passing By – Moore

I’ll bid you all a goodnight. It’s been a pleasure seeing most of you, as always. See you soon.

thatsafactjack on November 27, 2012 at 3:17 AM

Need to bail as wail. I’ll spare you the windfull explanation and winding, metaphorical whimsy that sometimes accompanies such abrupt leavages; indeed, I’ll swim with nothing of a metaphorical nor whimsical wake. In only four words, I’ve exited betimes, and so all my blueberries have, in their pies already bakéd, found peace — as I would you all might in crispy-crusts find tickling, fufilling embrasure.

And so it would be, if it were as such. And it might! Let it be.

Have we not heard the chimes at midnight?

Him? Do housework? ROTFLMBO! I had to jump on Spawn’s a** to get him to get his rap off of his bedroom floor. He was all ‘I pay you RENT!’ WhatEVAH. he’s living in MY(OUR) effing house! He cleaned-up his room.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 27, 2012 at 3:04 AM

Jackie could teach you some Martial Art. :) What with the butt-kicking and a “Dare Me” t shirt, things could change.

*flamboyant poof*

Axe on November 27, 2012 at 3:17 AM

thatsafactjack on November 27, 2012 at 3:14 AM

it’s renalin, come on.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 27, 2012 at 3:17 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on November 27, 2012 at 3:17 AM

LOL! Well… you’ve got a point there, I must confess. See you soon, ALT. Sleep well. :)

thatsafactjack on November 27, 2012 at 3:18 AM

on the bright side they are exhuming arafats body today. skynyrd anyone?

ooh that smell http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8mOC08SNYc

renalin on November 27, 2012 at 3:33 AM

notice how this happens after every election. drum up some phoney emergency so that they can pass a massive bill. this is nothing but the pols paying off their campaign donors. watch there will be “stimulus ” in any package. Spedning will increase taxes will increase. those that bought the politicans the election for them will be paid back with taxpayer money pay about 10 to 1 return on investment. the debt will go up nothing will be solved. these people do this after EVERY election. its how the game is played and they do it during the lame duck session. Wonder why? if you still are wondering you aren’t paying attention.

unseen on November 27, 2012 at 3:04 AM

Yes. That seems to be the pattern. Unfortunately

SparkPlug on November 27, 2012 at 3:34 AM

You need to read up thread a little farther. Not everyone is still crying in their beer.

thatsafactjack on November 27, 2012 at 3:14 AM

…nope!…got that right!…some of us have been drinking MORE of them lately though!…that’s why I just passed by and saw jackie is spinning tunes and the music lovers have us over 200 comments!….did I just see unseen is back?…GOOD!…(for a minute there I thought…not only do I have to pee…I thought I was dreaming too!)…NEED to have your spit and vinegar back on this site…no matter what others have said!
Later! (:->)

KOOLAID2 on November 27, 2012 at 4:21 AM

We are +$16.2 Trillion Dollars in debt…

… Grover Norquist hasn’t spent a $0.10 of our money, and he is the story.

Anyone else see the problem here…?

Seven Percent Solution on November 27, 2012 at 5:37 AM

funny, the lsm wants all these details from the gop and get bupkis from the administration and its all hunky dory…

eeyore flag is on alert
SSDD with this crew in DC….

cmsinaz on November 27, 2012 at 5:52 AM

cmsinaz on November 27, 2012 at 5:52 AM

Mourning Darlin’

OmahaConservative on November 27, 2012 at 5:58 AM

OmahaConservative on November 27, 2012 at 5:58 AM

Morning OC, hope you had a blessed turkey day….

cmsinaz on November 27, 2012 at 6:00 AM

The GOP will betray you

True_King on November 27, 2012 at 6:03 AM

Well,this is another brilliant manouver,thank-you NATO
for the
forward thinking on C@C!

Patriot missiles in Turkey to be under NATO command and control, NATO Secretary-General tells NTV – @RT_com

3 mins ago from rt.com by editor
====================================

Patriot missiles in Turkey to be under NATO command – Rasmussen

NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen has said the alliance will oversee the command and control of Patriot missiles to be deployed on the Turkish-Syrian border. Turkey has asked NATO to deploy missile defenses on its border against possible threats from Syria. The command of the missiles will be under the NATO Command Control System, Rasmussen told NTV news channel on Tuesday. The Turkish Defense Ministry earlier said that there Turkish officials were represented in the NATO control system. Huseyin Celik, deputy chairman of the ruling Justice and Development Party suggested that “Turkey will be holding the trigger.”
========

http://rt.com/news/line/2012-11-27/#id40959

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 6:05 AM

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 6:05 AM

Hey good ‘bud, thanks for the update…

OmahaConservative on November 27, 2012 at 6:08 AM

MeanWhile,NK Goons are up to no good!

Satellite photo shows increased activity at North Korean launch site – @Reuters

8 hours ago from http://www.reuters.com by editor

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/27/us-korea-north-missiles-idUSBRE8AQ03P20121127
======================

http://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/this-satellite-image-of-the-sohae-launch-facility-on-news-photo/156980043?Language=en-US

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 6:10 AM

cmsinaz on November 27, 2012 at 6:00 AM

It was good. Lots to be grateful for. How was yours?

OmahaConservative on November 27, 2012 at 6:10 AM

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 6:05 AM

Hey good ‘bud, thanks for the update…

OmahaConservative on November 27, 2012 at 6:08 AM

OmahaConservative:

Good Morning OC,hey,judging by the low thread commentor counts,
I do hope,everyone gets over the Election Shell-Shock….

…soon me hopes!:)

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 6:13 AM

cmsinaz on November 27, 2012 at 6:00 AM

cmsinaz:

Good Morning CM,loong time,no see,I echo OC on your Thanks-Giving
as well————————–:)

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 6:15 AM

What a laugh,…………….more speech making!

The Associated Press ‏@AP

BREAKING: Obama to discuss looming fiscal cliff in suburban Philadelphia on Friday

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 6:18 AM

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 6:18 AM

Blech.

esr1951 on November 27, 2012 at 6:24 AM

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 6:18 AM

Blech.

esr1951 on November 27, 2012 at 6:24 AM

esr1951:True Dat:)

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 6:26 AM

OmahaConservative on November 27, 2012 at 6:10 AM

went very well :)

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 6:15 AM

morning Canopfor :) thanks my friend

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 6:18 AM

forget about actually talking with the folks in congress, I’m going to continue to campaign…let Timmy do the dealing…

pathetic

cmsinaz on November 27, 2012 at 6:30 AM

UGH……………..what a Failure,Hopey doesn`t have a clue!

Oh,didn`t Carter appeal to Americans,for ideas!

Obama to appeal to public on fiscal cliff
By KEN THOMAS
— Nov. 27 6:02 AM EST
*********************

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/obama-appeal-public-fiscal-cliff

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 6:30 AM

O/T: Concerning what Jamie Fox said last Sunday night, “our lord and savior Barack Obama. My take.

kingsjester on November 27, 2012 at 6:31 AM

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 6:18 AM

forget about actually talking with the folks in congress, I’m going to continue to campaign…let Timmy do the dealing…

pathetic

cmsinaz on November 27, 2012 at 6:30 AM

cmsinaz:You nailed it,NeverEnding campaigning,..

..and,ya I heard that Giethner was the MAN for the job!(sarc):0

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 6:32 AM

forget about actually talking with the folks in congress, I’m going to continue to campaign…let Timmy do the dealing…

pathetic

cmsinaz on November 27, 2012 at 6:30 AM

Excellent point. Once again, Obama leaves the actual work to someone else.

esr1951 on November 27, 2012 at 6:34 AM

O/T: Concerning what Jamie Fox said last Sunday night, “our lord and savior Barack Obama. My take.

kingsjester on November 27, 2012 at 6:31 AM

kingsjester:Lol,on the,hes the `*ÒNE*!:)

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 6:34 AM

It is cold as hell here. I just went out to get my cigs out of my truck…

OmahaConservative on November 27, 2012 at 6:38 AM

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 6:32 AM

perfect…turbo tax man

esr1951 on November 27, 2012 at 6:34 AM

these idiots voted for a strawman…

cmsinaz on November 27, 2012 at 6:42 AM

OmahaConservative on November 27, 2012 at 6:38 AM

brrrrrrr

cmsinaz on November 27, 2012 at 6:43 AM

kingsjester on November 27, 2012 at 6:31 AM

all hail dear leader

cmsinaz on November 27, 2012 at 6:45 AM

i’m lying in bed with 3 dogs.

life can’t be too bad.

renalin on November 27, 2012 at 6:46 AM

brrrrrrr

cmsinaz on November 27, 2012 at 6:43 AM

Wind chill is -1

OmahaConservative on November 27, 2012 at 6:47 AM

renalin on November 27, 2012 at 6:46 AM

Wish I had three dogs, but not sure I could feed them…

OmahaConservative on November 27, 2012 at 6:48 AM

cmsinaz on November 27, 2012 at 6:45 AM

To “hail” with Dear Leader, ma’am.

We fought a War to rid ourselves of Kings.

Ex. 20:3 – “Thou shalt have no other gods before Me.”

kingsjester on November 27, 2012 at 6:50 AM

OmahaConservative on November 27, 2012 at 6:47 AM

ugharoo….

stay warm there OC

cmsinaz on November 27, 2012 at 6:51 AM

kingsjester on November 27, 2012 at 6:50 AM

amen KJ…amen

cmsinaz on November 27, 2012 at 6:52 AM

Wish I had three dogs, but not sure I could feed them…

OmahaConservative on November 27, 2012 at 6:48 AM

We have two dogs, who recently switched to Alpo when it was all we could get during the hurricane aftermath. Couldn’t help but notice that they absolutely LOVED it. It’s made in the USA and less than half the price of Science Diet.

Naturally Curly on November 27, 2012 at 6:55 AM

Wish I had three dogs, but not sure I could feed them…

OmahaConservative on November 27, 2012 at 6:48 AM

they eat better than i do. but i save money smoking mine from a pipe.

renalin on November 27, 2012 at 6:55 AM

Wish I had three dogs, but not sure I could feed them…

OmahaConservative on November 27, 2012 at 6:48 AM

OmahaConservative:

We have 3 cats,and one dog (Lab)!

I remember the cat pee stories,from,i think,a month ago,
on one of the threads!:)

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 7:00 AM

kingsjester on November 27, 2012 at 6:31 AM

Read your Jamie blog post.

I know you’re a famous blogger and all that, but you need to change “infers” to “implies” or you’re going to look a little silly.

“The statement infers that President Barack Hussein Obama (mm mmm mmmm) is the lord and savior of all Black Americans.”

Also, unless you’re referring to Egyptian mummies, thing you mean “bondage,” not “bandage” here:

…whom Moses was leading out of bandage from Egypt, built and started worshiping a Golden Calf?

(I know, my posts here are littered with typos, but they’re disposable and don’t have the impressive readership you claim)

Also, I think you may be reading a little too much into a comedian/emcee’s attempt to warm up the crowd, but we can discuss that in greater detail once you clear up the infer/imply thing.

urban elitist on November 27, 2012 at 7:01 AM

urban elitist on November 27, 2012 at 7:01 AM

Please allow me to respond in kind: “Bite me”.

kingsjester on November 27, 2012 at 7:03 AM

Wind chill is -1

OmahaConservative on November 27, 2012 at 6:47 AM

OmahaConservative:Yup,we have about 8 inches,since Saturday!:)

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 7:03 AM

Wind chill is -1

OmahaConservative on November 27, 2012 at 6:47 AM

Well , I am in Indiana. Is that coming my way?? We had a touch of snow last night.

For you astronomy nuts, there is a lovely trio of planets in the eastern sky. Venus and Saturn are separated by less than a degree. Mercury is below and to the left, very close to the horizon.

esr1951 on November 27, 2012 at 7:05 AM

hey, i found an old squished marlboro. man its hard sucking on that thing.

renalin on November 27, 2012 at 7:09 AM

We have 3 cats,and one dog (Lab)!

I remember the cat pee stories,from,i think,a month ago,
on one of the threads!:)

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 7:00 AM

…exact same thing as of Thanksgiving day…daughter came home from school in Chicago and leaves me with a little kitty that clims my legs when I don’t expect it and thinks my arms are a scratching post! (:->)….see ya latter!

KOOLAID2 on November 27, 2012 at 7:11 AM

Please allow me to respond in kind: “Bite me”.

kingsjester on November 27, 2012 at 7:03 AM

Just trying to help. Confusing “infer” with “imply” does make you look a little dim. I don’t want the impact of your insights diminished because of a usage error common among 10th graders.

The bandage thing is just funny, though.

urban elitist on November 27, 2012 at 7:14 AM

Please allow me to respond in kind: “Bite me”.

kingsjester on November 27, 2012 at 7:03 AM

kingsjester:

LOL,looks like you,pissed in urban elitist`s corn flakes this morning!
(snark):)

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 7:18 AM

urban elitist on November 27, 2012 at 7:14 AM

What “bandage” thing?

kingsjester on November 27, 2012 at 7:21 AM

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 7:00 AM

…exact same thing as of Thanksgiving day…daughter came home from school in Chicago and leaves me with a little kitty that clims my legs when I don’t expect it and thinks my arms are a scratching post! (:->)….see ya latter!

KOOLAID2 on November 27, 2012 at 7:11 AM

KOOLAID2:

Good Morning EG,yup little kittens are cute!

My daughter(20),is working in London Ontario,
i share your concern,on daughter is away from home aspect!:)

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 7:21 AM

Crap,so sorry,KOOLAID2,must of had Electrongod on me mind!

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 7:27 AM

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 7:27 AM

I always notice how you bring great information to the threads thanks for that, but I have to tell you every time I see your name posted it makes me think of “Death Hunt” and the Mad Trapper. I know that he was a fugitive, but as a survivalist, I gotta say his story is one to truly study.

MarshFox on November 27, 2012 at 7:33 AM

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 7:27 AM

I always notice how you bring great information to the threads thanks for that, but I have to tell you every time I see your name posted it makes me think of “Death Hunt” and the Mad Trapper. I know that he was a fugitive, but as a survivalist, I gotta say his story is one to truly study.

MarshFox on November 27, 2012 at 7:33 AM

MarshFox:

Thank-you,one of the first blogs,I visited,was OPFOR,I added Can to the front of it!:)


http://op-for.com/

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 7:40 AM

canopfor on November 27, 2012 at 7:40 AM

I have to say that that is a bit ironic, considering that one of the main bloggers at that site and I wear the same uniform.(LtCol P)

In regards to your name, it was more because you always post as if you live up in Canada(correct?) and the Mad Trapper is such a legend up that way. If you don’t know about hime you should look him up, very interesting. “The Mad Trapper of Rat River”

MarshFox on November 27, 2012 at 7:51 AM

My beloved is going to soon wonder why the hell his ‘bride’ of 10+ years is still on the effing ‘net rather than in bed. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on November 27, 2012 at 2:49 AM

Mine told me, “I will have sex in this house at least four nights a week, with or without you.”

It’s amazing how simple it is to motivate a man to be home.

Washington Nearsider on November 27, 2012 at 7:59 AM

nice to read a thread where not even one poster shows the least sign of hope.
can’t see a silver lining on any cloud myself. trying to get to sleep, but the 53% keep sticking their hands in my pockets.
renalin on November 27, 2012 at 3:09 AM

I am very hopeful! Chin up!

I sense good things in a couple of years.

bluegill on November 27, 2012 at 8:03 AM

I am very hopeful! Chin up!

I sense good things in a couple of years.

bluegill on November 27, 2012 at 8:03 AM

That tears it, we’re doomed.

Naturally Curly on November 27, 2012 at 8:11 AM

That tears it, we’re doomed.

Naturally Curly on November 27, 2012 at 8:11 AM

LOL … you made me smile …..
Now … change the sheets on the bed for my sweetie …
do a little sweeping … then maybe a little yard work …
and then I get to go to the RANGE !!!

it is fend for yourself day …. so I will check out a restaurant that I want to
take my bride of 20 years to….. it is going to be a good day …

conservative tarheel on November 27, 2012 at 8:27 AM

It is cold as hell here. I just went out to get my cigs out of my truck…

OmahaConservative on November 27, 2012 at 6:38 AM

Speaking of smoking…my husband is an obese smoker. i’ve informed him that I’ll buy him something …special for Christmas if he quits. Cold turkey. If he refuses to quit-I’ll be sleeping entirely in oversized tees and work-out capris.
Motivation is a good thing.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 27, 2012 at 9:06 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on November 27, 2012 at 9:06 AM

Lest i come across as cold-I was only referring to attire-nuthin’ else. I love my husband-but he WILL quit smoking.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 27, 2012 at 9:32 AM

The Earth is Flat.

Bmore on December 3, 2012 at 11:27 PM

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