THE PAPPY PLAN.

1. Seal the border.

2. 10% across the board spending CUTS……not fake stuff, REAL CUTS.

“Fair” and “shared sacrifice”.

Anything else is just same old same old.

PappyD61 on November 27, 2012 at 9:17 AM

You DO KNOW how Congress defines cutting spending, right?

Federal spending is predicated on every budgeted item increasing by a predetermined rate, every year, forever, etcetera…

Congress defines cutting spending as reducing the amount of that yearly increase, rather than reducing the actual amount that was spent the previous year.

Unlike how people in the real world do it.

If I cut spending on something I spend less than I did on it previously. I don’t decide to reduce the amount of an increase I have planned.

No wonder the federal Government is so screwed up.

Term limits.

Since Congress has been raiding the SS Trust Fund since the Clinton years, both Republicans and Democrats are responsible for the abuse of their trust! Nothing new about that. Not to mention Obama’s phony Payroll Tax Holiday….another sleight of hand trick to drive the Trust Fund further into debt and ensure even greater need for reform! Just not the reform these monkies are talking about.

My advice to the Corker-types is, “put a cork in it!”

tomshup on November 26, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Um, unless I’m off my nut, Lyndon Baines Johnson was the first president to preside over the robbing of the Social Security Trust Fund, in order to pay for his Great Society. They have been robbing it ever since, while rending their clothes and crying,”Social Security is going bankrupt!”

Reminds me of the line in Cold Mountain.
“They say this war is a cloud over the land! But they make the weather and then they stand in the rain and say, ‘Shit, it’s raining!”

All we need is one person with the courage of conviction to stand up to the lot of them; a large voice.

Amjean on November 27, 2012 at 6:24 AM

Yes, and that would be Sarah Palin. You described her perfectly. A person with the courage of conviction to stand up to the lot of them.

Mirimichi on November 27, 2012 at 6:56 PM

Yeah, she stood up so well she got run out of office over ethics investigations in the remotest state in the Union, and switched to being a talking head on TV.

Get over your Palin-Savior complex, bucko.

All we need is one person with the courage of conviction to stand up to the lot of them; a large voice.

Amjean on November 27, 2012 at 6:24 AM

Yes, and that would be Sarah Palin. You described her perfectly. A person with the courage of conviction to stand up to the lot of them. And this time, lets all get behind her instead of falling for the BLM spin on her.

Just wait till bhocare taxes kick in!
letget on November 26, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Misread that as bohica taxes for some reason.

1. Seal the border.

2. 10% across the board spending CUTS……not fake stuff, REAL CUTS.

“Fair” and “shared sacrifice”.

Anything else is just same old same old.

PappyD61 on November 27, 2012 at 9:17 AM

****of course this would require two things from the gop that they don’t have.

2. Someone that could connect and communicate, unfraid, CONSERVATIVE values.

Cutting $4T off projected deficits over 10 years is a joke.

The American people WANT to be taxed. The “fiscal cliff” is a misnomer. Let the tax cuts expire so everyone–not just the rich–pays the higher taxes they voted for.

EddieC on November 27, 2012 at 9:19 AM

Sorry, but this is a GFY moment. I pulled the lever next to Mitt Romney’s and Paul Ryan’s names specifically in the hopes of getting rid of Obama. Don’t thump your chest and tell me about how you think I should be punished because the GOP consists of a bunch of feckless sell-outs, douchebag.

The American people WANT to be taxed. The “fiscal cliff” is a misnomer. Let the tax cuts expire so everyone–not just the rich–pays the higher taxes they voted for.

1. Seal the border.

2. 10% across the board spending CUTS……not fake stuff, REAL CUTS.

“Fair” and “shared sacrifice”.

Anything else is just same old same old.

I’m more convinced every day, unfortunately, that this will not end well – but it will end, and only after the shooting begins.

Midas on November 27, 2012 at 8:22 AM

I may be guilty of tunnel vision or poor imagination (though I doubt it in this case), but I really cannot see any other endgame than one side forcing the other to surrender at the point of guns and whips.

Who the surrendering party will be, I don’t even want to speculate.

The larger disaster of a fiscal cliff might be avoided, but the responsibility for continuing stagnation and rapid growth of debt — which is impossible to avoid in this approach — will fall squarely on Obama’s shoulders.

Still confused, are we? Precisely who is it that will place this blame squarely on Obama’s shoulders as opposed to Republican shoulders? Will it be the media, who have so honestly placed the blame for our current situation where it really belongs? Oh, wait.. But this time will be different, right? This same media won’t be sliming GOP candidates in 2014/16 with the blame for the still-crappy economy, while telling us that the Dems will be the ones to ‘fix it’, right?

Please put down the crack pipe.

Doing some quick math though tells me that 300 million people at $75k each would be roughly $22.5 trillion per year. I don’t think we could afford that even if we went full on communist and confiscated everything this country produces in a year and just gave everyone $75k. I think our entire economic activity for a year is somewhere in the $15-16 trillion range? We’re still about $6 trillion short.

gravityman on November 26, 2012 at 6:15 PM

Didn’t say our whole population. Just the poor. So if 300 million people cost us the first year 22 trillion, lets drop that down to say 37 million people or so. Then you are looking at a cost of say around 6 trillion or less. I think it would pay for itself.

But this isn’t a serious proposal in the sense that it would eliminate poverty. It’s a serious proposal to destroy the Democrat party and eliminate the welfare state.

Here me out. You offer this proposal in exchange for eliminating all welfare agencies and subsidies. Every single one of them. Government housing turns private. You offer poor people a true transition to the middle class. Say no one can take the offer longer than 10 years. Maybe after 10 you drop down half income for a year or two. Whatever… play with this thing a little.

The idea is to change the political and cultural landscape. We are in a freaking war for survival. We need some new creative ideas that change everything.

OK.. The Democrats play Santa because people like getting freebies. Then use that against the Dems! People are ignorant? Than use that for our advantage! Make the Obamaphone lady feel like she’s getting short changed by Obama!

But there’s another side to this.. the money has no strings! No government regulations! No more control from government agencies! And how are we any worse off? Yeah.. some people would sit on the rears but some people are going to build a business, buy a house.. invest in their futures and they are going to want to protect those investments once the money stops!

I read this story of a battle between two nations. Sorry.. don’t remember the names of either but it was along time ago. The one army was ruthless and very strong. The other was much weaker. They came together in a battle but the much weaker army won… by creativity! They played parade music during the battle. They found out that the other army’s horses were trained to march/dance in parades and always played the same song. So.. in battle.. they played that song and all the horses were out of control. They danced instead of charging and they last the battle.

It’s a poor analogy but my point is we need to start thinking outside the box and getting creative. Let the Democrats argue against giving people checks while the GOP argues for it. We will be no worse off and will save ourselves money while eliminating agencies and government power and might just help a lot of people realize what it’s like living without government agencies and regulations. Isn’t this what welfare was suppose to be anyway? A hand up not a handout? A 10 year salary in exchange for a life time of services. Someone prove that this would be worse than what we have today. And meanwhile.. while the welfare vote floods to the GOP side.. we can begin repairing the damage done to our country!

Can someone direct me to the members of congress that are talking sense, upholding their promise to fight more spending, and who are voting no to any solution without a budget? We need to be promoting those folks and championing some common fiscal sense.

red villain on November 26, 2012 at 11:43 PM

Great question!! Where is Rand Paul? Jim DeMint? And all the
“supposed” new conservative Tea Party electees? Does anyone remember what happened to the 2010 conservative electees? Not
hardly a peep. They got entrenched into Washington political life very easily and fell into the rabbit hole. And forgot who brought them to the dance! Hello! Anyone out there?! Where is Paul Ryan – isn’t he a proclaimed budget hawk?

Where are the young guns? Remember them? Cantor, Ryan and
the guy from California. –What a joke.

I could go on and on.

All we need is one person with the courage of conviction to stand up to the lot of them; a large voice.

Democracy is over – voters are but prostitutes who will sell their freedom for guilt-free anything. The left has won,

Make sure you tell them as soon as they get the bleeding stopped, you’ll be glad to consider sending MONEY supporting the RNC for such a spectacular job they are doing getting NEW competent conservative thinkers elected.

belad on November 26, 2012 at 10:14 PM

The problem isn’t with individuals. The problem is with the GOP. We should just let it wither on the vine and go the way of the Whigs.

Can someone direct me to the members of congress that are talking sense, upholding their promise to fight more spending, and who are voting no to any solution without a budget? We need to be promoting those folks and championing some common fiscal sense.

red villain on November 26, 2012 at 11:43 PM

There are none, if there ever were in my lifetime. The GOP has given up the fight. There’s no pretense towards being the party of small government. The sooner you accept that and forge ahead, the better off you’ll be.

I am proud to be labeled an obstructionist. Why do we allow Pelosi and Reid to proclaim that no offer will be accepted that does not include raised revenue? Why don’t we make the same announcement that no offer will be accepted that includes raised revenue? Why don’t we decline any offer that does not include a balanced budget?

Why don’t we start with the hypothetical that there will be no new taxes or revenue EVER AGAIN, and we need to make do with the money we collected in the last fiscal year. Someone propose a budget plan that is not comprised completely of parlor tricks, smoke and mirrors.

Can someone direct me to the members of congress that are talking sense, upholding their promise to fight more spending, and who are voting no to any solution without a budget? We need to be promoting those folks and championing some common fiscal sense.