CNN poll: Supermajority expects politicians to act like “spoiled children” on fiscal cliff

posted at 12:11 pm on November 26, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Don’t expect too many moments of comedy during the debate over the fiscal cliff, especially if Congress and the White House can’t come to an agreement on it before the end of the year.  However, a new poll from CNN allows a little gallows humor to come to the fore.  Two thirds of of the 1,023 adults polled by CNN/ORC believe that the politicians who will hash this out will behave more like “spoiled children” than “responsible adults” in the negotiations.

And here we thought they weren’t paying attention:

Last year Congress and President Barack Obama agreed to a program to reduce the federal deficit that some people refer to as the “fiscal cliff.” Unless Congress and the President reach an agreement within the next few weeks, tax rates will automatically rise next year for nearly all Americans and major spending cuts will automatically begin to kick in for most government spending programs, including military programs.

According to the poll, which was released Monday, nearly one out of four say those tax increases and spending cuts will cause a crisis, with another 44% saying they would cause major problems. Nearly one in four say if the country falls off the “fiscal cliff,” only minor problems would occur, with 7% saying there would be no consequences. …

The poll also indicates that more than seven in ten Americans call for compromise on this issue, but they are pessimistic about that actually happening, with two-thirds predicting that Washington officials will act like “spoiled children,” not “responsible adults,” in the upcoming negotiations.

CNN didn’t release the internals on the poll, and it was a general-population poll rather than one of registered voters.  It looks like from that description that about the same number of people believe the fiscal cliff to be a crisis or major problem matches up pretty well with those that expect a “spoiled children” response from Congress.

The poll shows that Americans broadly want to see both parties compromise, with a mix of tax hikes and spending cuts — even self-identifying Republicans:

Two thirds of those questioned in the poll say that any agreement should include a mix of spending cuts and tax increases, with just under one in three saying a deal should only include spending cuts.

Democrats questioned in the survey overwhelmingly support an agreement that has both, and six out of ten independents feel the same way. By a 52%-44% margin, Republicans also favor a mixture of spending cuts and tax increases instead of a deal that only includes spending cuts.

With that in mind, people will be inclined at this point in time to blame House Republicans for a failure to reach an agreement.  That’s not to say that Democrats will come out unscathed, as 34% will blame Obama, but 45% are inclined to put the onus on Republicans in Congress.  Republicans could insist on keeping all of the current tax rates and scotch any deal that raises them, but they’d have a lot of selling to do on that position — and they very obviously didn’t make the sale during the election, not even among Republicans.


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The illiterate electorate has no clue what its even about. If they did, they wouldn’t have voted for the a$$ clown occupying the WH – bankrupting American as fast as he can.

FlaMurph on November 26, 2012 at 12:16 PM

HotAir poll: a supermajority KNOWS that politicians will act like spoiled children EVERYWHERE.

platypus on November 26, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Two foxes and one chicken decide what’s for dinner.

Schadenfreude on November 26, 2012 at 12:17 PM

The GOP should vote “present” and let the administration “own” the results.

2klbofun on November 26, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Illiterates rule the US now.

Schadenfreude on November 26, 2012 at 12:17 PM

That hasn’t worked for that last four years, what’s going to change?

Freelancer on November 26, 2012 at 12:18 PM

The once freest land on Earth is now the most stupid of them all.

Schadenfreude on November 26, 2012 at 12:18 PM

Wow!! CNN has obviously missed the last couple of decades of Congress… actually ANY two decades of Congress… which is why we used to vote them out after a term or two in office.

ajacksonian on November 26, 2012 at 12:19 PM

CNN poll: Supermajority expects politicians to act like “spoiled children” when it comes to federal spending and “entitlements” on fiscal cliff.

WashJeff on November 26, 2012 at 12:19 PM

As long as their are scape-goats so the President doesn’t get blamed, it’s all good.

Deafdog on November 26, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Republicans could insist on keeping all of the current tax rates and scotch any deal that raises them, but they’d have a lot of selling to do on that position — and they very obviously didn’t make the sale during the election, not even among Republicans.

It’s all in what they tie the tax rates to. For every dollar raised in new revenue, I want three dollars cut from the entitlement programs that favor the spoiled greedy moochers of the left. Start with Medicare for those under a given age. Then go out after things like redundant education programs and stuff that favors state employees. Just don’t touch slutcare (aka the Fluke mandate) or Big Bird.

Happy Nomad on November 26, 2012 at 12:26 PM

Fund Your Utopia Without Me.™

Ditto to RWM

Schadenfreude on November 26, 2012 at 12:26 PM

Congratulations to the Democrats, minorities and Young People! You now own it and you can’t blame Bush.
The next terrorist attack you own it.
Can’t get a job after graduation, you own it.
Sky rocketing energy prices due to Obama’s EPA shutting down the energy producing states, you own it.
A nuclear Iran, you own it.
Bowing to Russia, you own it.
Another severe recession, you own it.
A volatile border with Mexico, you own it.
Trouble getting good health care, you own it.
Higher health insurance costs and health care costs, you own it.
No budget, you own it.
Our allies mistrust, you own it.
Another trillion of debt, you own it.
More Benghazi situations, you own it.
No one willing to join the military, you own it.
Trouble getting a loan to buy a home, you own it.
More dependency on food stamps, you
own it.
Trouble finding good employment, you own it.
Several part time jobs instead of a good job, you own it.
A World Government, you own it.
The UN governing the United States instead of ourselves, you own it.
A Senate that will not bring any legislation to the table even if it is “Dead on Arrival”, you own it.
China controlling our world trade trampling all over us, you own it.
Loss of our freedoms as we have known it in the past, you own it.
A dictatorship instead of a democracy that follows the Constitution, you own it.
Less take home pay and higher living costs, you own it.
Driving a car that looks like a toy, you own it.
More government corruption and lies, you own it.
More toleration of extreme and fanatical Islamists, you own it.
Terrorist attacks called work place incidents, you own it.
Your revenge instead of love of country, you own it.
President
George Bush is out of it now, and
there is not another good man for you to vilify and lie about. In a way
I am relieved that another good man will not be blamed when it was
impossible to clean up this mess you voted for. Have a good day. God
bless the United States! God is our hope now.

Decoski on November 26, 2012 at 12:27 PM

Well bho is the poster child of a spoiled kid that pouts, stomps his feet, and I’m sure at some point he held his breath to get what he wants done! bho also does what kids do, blame someone else when things go wrong and they get caught!
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letget on November 26, 2012 at 12:30 PM

2klbofun

The GOP should vote “present” and let the administration “own” the results.

I agree completely. I hope the dollar collapses, entitlement checks stop, and the electorate pays attention. Let’s get this over with.

valentine on November 26, 2012 at 12:33 PM

Illiterates rule the US now.

Schadenfreude on November 26, 2012 at 12:17 PM

I read that also. Basicaly sounds spot on, but on a side note, didn’t Putin endorse Obama?

plutorocks on November 26, 2012 at 12:34 PM

Well bho is the poster child of a spoiled kid that pouts, stomps his feet, and I’m sure at some point he held his breath to get what he wants done! bho also does what kids do, blame someone else when things go wrong and they get caught!
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letget on November 26, 2012 at 12:30 PM

Nonsense. Barak Hussein Obama is our lord and savior. We need only put him before all others and do exactly what he says because, you know, he just won an election or something. /

Happy Nomad on November 26, 2012 at 12:37 PM

“Responsible adults” = tax hikes
“Spoiled children” = spending cuts

The playbook, page 1, line 2.

Bat Chain Puller on November 26, 2012 at 12:42 PM

CNN poll…stop. Why Ed?

DanMan on November 26, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Poll: Public would blame GOP more than Obama if fiscal talks fail
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/269279-poll-public-would-blame-gop-more-than-obama-if-fiscal-cliff-talks-fail

Low-information, Obama Voter, Morons, Idiots.

Synonyms for all of the above.

Galt2009 on November 26, 2012 at 12:45 PM

So now we’re sensitively attuned to public opinion polls and offering them up to support tax increases. Yet, when polls indicate that majorities still don’t blame Obama for the economic mess we’re in, they are written off as the result of a great sales job by the PR team running the White House.

These results are nothing more than another indication of the success of Barack Obama in spinning a theme and having it stick, regardless of its validity. He’s been hitting the “balanced approach” gong for so long, I can hardly hear myself think. And people have bought it. Yet, for some reason, the balanced approach means tax the wealth and don’t touch anybody else. What exactly is balanced about that?

The fiscal deal (not a cliff, sorry, there is not death at the bottom of the canyon, despite the free hyperbole being dished out by the bucket-load) will increase taxes on everyone. Isn’t everyone being treated the same sort of the theme of America? Since when did taking other people’s money become part of the national fabric? Should we decriminalize bank robbery along with pot? If it’s fair to go in and take what you want, where’s the harm? The harm is only to people with money and they have no rights in America anyway, right?

A little extreme to make a point? Maybe. But, extreme seems to be the language of the day, these days.

Apparently Barack Obama and Mr. Axelrod have won not only the election, but also the debate. The battle and the war.

IndieDogg on November 26, 2012 at 12:56 PM

But how many people in the United Piglets of America favor a combination of spending cuts and tax increases that will actually close the deficit? According to this poll, a majority think we’ll have major problems if we just cut the deficit to $700 billion or so.

After all, the “fiscal cliff” is just a combination of tax increases and spending cuts that add up to $500 billion per year.

Or maybe the typical American just has no idea what any of this is about, past the moronic soundbite provided by (insert low information media source of choice here.)

MNHawk on November 26, 2012 at 12:57 PM

but on a side note, didn’t Putin endorse Obama?

plutorocks on November 26, 2012 at 12:34 PM

He’d be stupid not to. Obama makes Putin shine.

Schadenfreude on November 26, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Or maybe the typical American just has no idea what any of this is about, past the moronic soundbite provided by (insert low information media source of choice here.)

MNHawk on November 26, 2012 at 12:57 PM

This part. The greedy selfish people apparently are too damned stupid to understand that the solution necessitates more than just taxing the hell out of the rich. But don’t think the rat-eared wonder will call it entitlement reform after spending the last few months swearing that the only thing we had to do is make the rich pay “their fair share” so those stupid greedy people wouldn’t have to do anything but lay back and laugh themselves silly that people are out there working hard so people like them need only put an Obama bumper sticker on the car and wait for the welfare to roll in.

Happy Nomad on November 26, 2012 at 1:02 PM

“Responsible adults” = tax hikes
“Spoiled children” = spending cuts

The playbook, page 1, line 2.

Bat Chain Puller on November 26, 2012 at 12:42 PM

The sense of the plays perhaps but not quite complete.

Tax hikes have to be mentioned in the context of all those greedy people making over $200K who want to deny “middle class” families of free stuff because they refuse to pay their “fair share.”

Spending cuts only get mentioned with the dire consequences to society if Sandra Fluke doesn’t have slutcare to rely on for her congtraception needs. And, of course, a multi-billion dollar enterprise like Sesame Street would fold over night were it not for those public dollars propping up Big Bird and “tickle this” Elmo.

Happy Nomad on November 26, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Republicans will get the blame and the media will beat them to pieces over every move they make, just like they always do. They could come up with a foolproof and painless way to take care of all our financial woes in one fell swoop and the media would find a way to make it look foolhardy.

scalleywag on November 26, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Well we can’t have them making it appear to be something they could have done any time.

Cindy Munford on November 26, 2012 at 1:15 PM

“Act like responsible adults” means “The president won, so give him whatever he wants. Who cares that the people who voted you into Congress didn’t want you to raise taxes. All that matters is that you will look bad if you don’t cave in to the President. The media might call you names.”

Slightly paraphrased, but that’s what it really means.

Ironically, probably the one thing that the House could do that the rest of the country might respect is to stand firm against tax hikes.

So naturally they can’t do that.

There Goes The Neighborhood on November 26, 2012 at 1:26 PM

It would not be such a bad thing for everyone’s taxes to be raised. Obviously, it would hurt the economy. That’s a given.

But lost in all the screaming about Bush’s “tax cuts for the wealthy” is that Bush’s tax cuts had the opposite effect. After Bush’s tax cuts, 47% of the country no longer paid income taxes. While Bush cut taxes for everyone, he cut them most for the lower classes.

Remember all the complaining about the 47% of the country that no longer pays income tax? Let all the Bush tax cuts expire, and a majority of the country will start paying income taxes again.

The only way Democrats win on the tax issue is if they get exactly what they’re asking for: all the Bush tax cuts expire except for the top bracket. If all the tax cuts expire instead, then the Democrats will be the losers on the tax issue.

There Goes The Neighborhood on November 26, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Ironically, probably the one thing that the House could do that the rest of the country might respect is to stand firm against tax hikes.

So naturally they can’t do that.

There Goes The Neighborhood on November 26, 2012 at 1:26 PM

It’s got to be more than that. Standing firm on tax hikes in and of itself is exactly what the rat-eared wonder and his filthy party want as a narrative. It’s got to be a more complex series of things with standing firm on the GOP’s idea of balanced approach is more than just raising taxes. That along with a bit of indignant outrage that the Dems refuse to budge on anything may not dispel the blame the GOP is sure to get through the MSM but it makes it that much harder to succeed. Keep in mind, the economics are on the GOP’s side no matter what Dems and lilly-livered “conservatives” claim. Make entitlement reform part of the package. Not down the road but now. Otherwise, going over the fiscal cliff is a good first step in re-evaluating priorities.

Happy Nomad on November 26, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Supermajority expects politicians to act like “spoiled children” on fiscal cliff

It could simply be a matter of ‘it takes one to know one.’

locomotivebreath1901 on November 26, 2012 at 1:46 PM

The house GOP is in a no win situation, so they should stand firm on tax hikes. They have nothing to gain from caving to the socialists and everything to lose.

dogsoldier on November 26, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Remember all the complaining about the 47% of the country that no longer pays income tax? Let all the Bush tax cuts expire, and a majority of the country will start paying income taxes again.

The only way Democrats win on the tax issue is if they get exactly what they’re asking for: all the Bush tax cuts expire except for the top bracket. If all the tax cuts expire instead, then the Democrats will be the losers on the tax issue.

There Goes The Neighborhood on November 26, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Are there taxes on food stamps? Surely they are income. What about the funds on those EBT cards? Are they taxed? Was that ObamaPhone taxed?

I want tax fairness on that stuff, NOW.

dogsoldier on November 26, 2012 at 2:52 PM

The House GOP needs to vote present on everything going forward. Step away and let the 51% who voted to keep Obama get what they wanted. Sometimes tough love is needed. The electorate needs some tough love right now. Step away GOP, let it go; let it burn; let it meltdown.

Rndguy on November 26, 2012 at 5:11 PM

…but on a side note, didn’t Putin endorse Obama?

plutorocks on November 26, 2012 at 12:34 PM

And why not?

If you were Putin, and you wanted the United States kicked out of #1 ‘superpower’ status – in fact, brought down to second-world status – would you want anyone other than lil barry running the show in the good ol’ USA?

At least Putin is smart enough to see what the future of America will be under bho and the democRATs.

Solaratov on November 26, 2012 at 5:44 PM

…dumbazzes!

KOOLAID2 on November 26, 2012 at 11:30 PM

Hey CNN, pole the staff of Congress because these are the ones that will be doing the grunt work for the elected reps. There are over 23,000 of them and a reliable source of what’s going on, if not your poles are like asking the OWS crew for advice. Check out the source of my post. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_staff

mixplix on November 27, 2012 at 5:54 AM