Test run – nabbing Jesse Jackson jr’s seat

posted at 10:01 am on November 24, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

Sometimes you just have to latch on to what’s seems like an obviously crazy idea and run with it. If nobody ever grabbed for a rather insane looking brass ring, we’d have never had the turducken. It is with this wild eyed spirit of possibilities rising from the ash fields that I propose giving serious consideration to a plan suggested by Moe Lane at Red State. The seat in the the US House of Representatives most recently held by Congressman Jesse Jackson jr is now rather famously open. So here’s the plan.

Now that he’s resigned it… how’s about trying to, maybe, I don’t know: win it?

Hold on, hear me out. Let’s jump back for a second to 2009. You might remember that in 2009 Rahm Emanuel resigned his House seat (IL-05) in order to bungle being White House Chief of Staff. Well, that caused a special election to trigger, and at the time I took the position that hey, how’s about trying to, maybe, I don’t know: win it? …And I was told, quietly but firmly, no. Folks didn’t like the candidate, didn’t like the idea of spending the money, didn’t want to contest the seat.

At first glance it’s easy to blow this idea off as a pipe dream. We’re talking about Illinois -2 here. It takes in Cook and Will Counties, part of the southern suburbs of Chicago itself. Jackson carried it with 63% of the vote while he was away in a medical center seeking treatment for a possible mental disorder. Why would anyone spend money on this race, right? You’d need to check the exact math for me, but I think IL-2 is approximately D + 107.2.

But Moe is looking a little further than that and it all comes down to numbers. Turnout is at its highest in presidential election years. It falls off considerably during the mid-terms. Turnout for odd year elections is simply pathetic. What is the turnout in odd year special elections? It’s sub-pathetic, unless the race turns into a national media feeding frenzy like the Doug Hoffman debacle. As an example, Moe returns to the aforementioned special election to fill Rahm Emanuel’s seat. Mike Quigley beat Rosanna Pulido, 30.6K to 10.6K. Read that again. The Democrat won with 30,600 votes. In this last election, it’s true that Jackson swamped the field with 181, 067 votes. But Republican Brian Woodworth got 67,396 votes and independent candidate Marcus Lewis took 38,733 votes.

If you let that sink in for a moment, you’ll come to the same conclusion Moe did. In a very low turnout election, there is a pool of Republican voters with some possible lift from independents which could amass enough votes to take the seat – potentially by a fairly wide margin. Granted, it would only be for one term, and the winner would be sent packing in 2014, but there’s a larger point here. With all the talk we’ve been hearing about “micro-targeting” and what a bunch of geniuses the Democrats were this cycle with polling science, this could prove to be a perfect, miniature laboratory to test those ideas on the Right side of the coin.

So how do you do it? The first thing to settle on is what you don’t do. You don’t dump a ton of money into an air war that gets the Democrats noticing that there’s a race going on. What you do instead is bring back a very old, but mostly forgotten idea which we used to great effect in 2010: Precinct Captains. Invest the available resources in identifying one solid Republican in each and every precinct. Get them the data from pouring through registration stats to identify every single Republican and potential independent in the few miles around their house. Help them round up a few friends and quietly begin going door to door explaining the situation. Save your money for the final week before the special election and then hit a direct mail bomb targeting only the people on those lists.

The message is fairly simple. “Hey. There’s an election on Tuesday, and for the first time in living memory you’ve got a chance to have your voice heard. All you have to do is show up, because the liberals aren’t going to. Hell, we’ll even come give you a ride.”

Would it work, even in such a dismally conservative-poor area? You won’t know unless you try. But if it did, it would send shock waves across the country and be used as a model for the next cycle, demonstrating that 21st century election science is a game that both parties can play, not just Team Obama.

Think about it.


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Yeah, like that is a winnable seat…

OmahaConservative on November 24, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Have a candidate run as a democrat, then change parties after winning.

john1schn on November 24, 2012 at 10:07 AM

This is the best.

Put democracy in action and email this article to Chairman Priebus (who wants another term).

Maybe find a candidate that makes the Republican message work for the “middle class”.

IlikedAUH2O on November 24, 2012 at 10:09 AM

OmahaConservative on November 24, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Oh ye of little faith…

IlikedAUH2O on November 24, 2012 at 10:10 AM

I want some of what Moe is drinking.

Kissmygrits on November 24, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Let’s run Jeb Bush for the seat.

forest on November 24, 2012 at 10:11 AM

Why do we care.
Really.

FlaMurph on November 24, 2012 at 10:11 AM

Why do we care.
Really.

FlaMurph on November 24, 2012 at 10:11 AM

Because some of us live here. Some of us care. Some of us are heartily sick of The Machine, in general, and the Jackson family, in particular.

Hope that answers your question.

herm2416 on November 24, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Don’t you have to be a convicted felon to run for that seat? Or does the conviction follow after you win it?

GarandFan on November 24, 2012 at 10:16 AM

All the Dems have to do is run the right honorable racist reverend Jeremiah Alvesta Wright, Jr. — and no Republican would stand a chance …

ShainS on November 24, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Hell, Barry couldn’t even win a House seat in Chicago.

Punchenko on November 24, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Just don’t ask him/her anything about abortion and the Dems might stay home.
Any misstep there, and they’d be out in large numbers.

pambi on November 24, 2012 at 10:29 AM

When is JJJ goivg to prison?

Blake on November 24, 2012 at 10:32 AM

Charlie Crist is eyeing this seat. He has already purchased a SouthSide crack den and is undergoing a medical procedure to become a Chocolate Orange.

CorporatePiggy on November 24, 2012 at 10:33 AM

Jesse Jackson Jr.’s Resignation Could Cost Taxpayers $5.1 Million

BallisticBob on November 24, 2012 at 10:31 AM

The people in the district should foot the bill. They had to know that he would be indicted.

Blake on November 24, 2012 at 10:34 AM

Charlie Crist is eyeing this seat. He has already purchased a SouthSide crack den and is undergoing a medical procedure to become a Chocolate Orange.
CorporatePiggy on November 24, 2012 at 10:33 AM

Lol

bluegill on November 24, 2012 at 10:37 AM

Charlie Crist is eyeing this seat. He has already purchased a SouthSide crack den and is undergoing a medical procedure to become a Chocolate Orange.

CorporatePiggy on November 24, 2012 at 10:33 AM

His message is simple: He’s going to free OJ and help him find the real killers.

Landslide, people. Landslide.

Punchenko on November 24, 2012 at 10:41 AM

…if Republicans could win Jesse Jackson Jr.’s seat…I might start believing in them again…they don’t know what the word ‘upset’ is anymore!

KOOLAID2 on November 24, 2012 at 10:42 AM

Have a candidate run as a democrat, then change parties after winning.

john1schn on November 24, 2012 at 10:07 AM

^This +1000. I work in this district, and most of my coworkers live in it. It is the only way I can imagine this seat going Republican. Even the proud Obama supporters I work with think JJJ is an absolute disgrace at this point, but so many of them voted for him, because they automatically vote a straight Democrat ticket.

JimLennon on November 24, 2012 at 10:42 AM

Win IL-2?

Could I interest you in a bridge?

M240H on November 24, 2012 at 10:43 AM

Would it work, even in such a dismally conservative-poor area?

Heck, I wish Romney had tried this, instead of ORCA.

irishspy on November 24, 2012 at 10:43 AM

This isn’t too farfetched. The NO congressional seat was won by a Republican, after William Jefferson went to the hoosegow.

22044 on November 24, 2012 at 10:44 AM

I predict his wife runs for the seat in the special election and the family tradition of theft and corruption can continue without pause.

Night Owl on November 24, 2012 at 10:45 AM

so some idiot at redstate comes up with some crazy stupid idea and we’re actually suppose to give it serious consideration.

lets all just sit around, smoke some dope and drop some acid instead.

renalin on November 24, 2012 at 10:47 AM

The only thing that can save Chicago is the second coming of O’Leary’s cow.

M240H on November 24, 2012 at 10:50 AM

Heck, I wish Romney had tried this, instead of ORCA.

irishspy on November 24, 2012 at 10:43 AM

“Orca” is Michelle’s SS Codename – not a propitious start. Kind of like naming a new ship “Titanic”.

CorporatePiggy on November 24, 2012 at 10:58 AM

Yeah lets send some hope and spend some money to only lose by 50% to JJJ brother Jonathan Jackson.

tjexcite on November 24, 2012 at 10:59 AM

the gop candidate would be a black guy. married to a white woman. with a distant cousin in the kkk.

Winning!

renalin on November 24, 2012 at 11:02 AM

so some idiot at redstate comes up with some crazy stupid idea and we’re actually suppose to give it serious consideration.

lets all just sit around, smoke some dope and drop some acid instead.

renalin on November 24, 2012 at 10:47 AM

And your better idea would be what, o’ wise and stoned trucon?

I guess you want it handed to you on a silver platter.

Typical.

Solaratov on November 24, 2012 at 11:02 AM

two words. Mike Ditka

ConservativePartyNow on November 24, 2012 at 11:02 AM

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/07/11/could-the-gop-turn-ny-09-into-a-real-fight/

Let’s make it happen, again.

amazingmets on November 24, 2012 at 11:06 AM

The only thing that can save Chicago is the second coming of O’Leary’s cow.

M240H on November 24, 2012 at 10:50 AM

<—— This…

SWalker on November 24, 2012 at 11:18 AM

The only way Chicago will ever be cleaned out is a full-blown DOJ investigation, followed by mass arrests and life sentences.

Don’t see that happening for the foreseeable future.

Another pipe dream, right along the lines of ‘Romney will whip Obama.’

avgjo on November 24, 2012 at 11:19 AM

Hey, any one that meets the basic Marion Berry criteria will do.
IYKWIMAITYD

esnap on November 24, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Solaratov on November 24, 2012 at 11:02 AM

you don’t mean to tell me you really think we have a chance do you? in chicago? when hell freezes over brother. only when hell freezes over.

renalin on November 24, 2012 at 11:37 AM

ConservativePartyNow on November 24, 2012 at 11:02 AM

Ditka just had a minor stroke. Still, he would be better than JJ. I’m with the poster who said JJ’s wife is eyeballing the seat.

Lightswitch on November 24, 2012 at 11:41 AM

The GOP has to nominate a candidate who hates Whitey more than the Democrat.

sentinelrules on November 24, 2012 at 11:42 AM

When is JJJ goivg to prison?

Blake on November 24, 2012 at 10:32 AM

This…

socalcon on November 24, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Hey, any one that meets the basic Marion Berry criteria will do. IYKWIMAITYD

esnap on November 24, 2012 at 11:33 AM

I’m sure the rock-slinging murderers of whatever the El Rukn gang is calling itself this year have the next congressman chosen. And Jesse, Sr. and Calypso Louis helped pick.

And I would like to take this opportunity to, one more time, remind the world that only one person profited by MLK’s death. Feel free to shave Jesse, Sr. with Occam’s razor.

M240H on November 24, 2012 at 11:44 AM

The headline for this article completely threw me off. I thought that the lesson from this election was that we were going to go into urban areas and Democratic strongholds and PREACH the doctrines of FREE MARKETS. We were going to SELL politically inactive people who voted based on ethnicity on how conservative governance would improve their lives. I don’t care if it is a D+60 district, we are going to make our case loudly and proudly. Maybe next election it’s a D+40 district. Maybe two years later it’s a D+10 district.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? I thought we were going to fight. Where’s the spirit? Where’s the guts?

HTnFBCoachnTX1980 on November 24, 2012 at 11:49 AM

We already know what is going to happen – dems will simply install the next drug-addicted, racist, anti-America black thug on the list.

Pork-Chop on November 24, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Yeah, like that is a winnable seat…

OmahaConservative on November 24, 2012 at 10:05 AM

John Ewing lost. None of Nebraska’s electoral votes went to Obama, thus proving that the occasional miracle does take place.

I admit it’s a long shot, but faint heart never won fair lady.

catsandbooks on November 24, 2012 at 11:56 AM

I’m pretty sure that the entire country is past being able to overcome the Democrats’ Margin of Fraud. And that is for the country as a whole. In Chicago itself, if an actual vote somehow gets counted as cast, someone gets punished. In Chicago, as in every Democrat city in the country, there were an overwhelming number of precincts that voted over 100% of not only registered voters, but also people in the precinct of voting age. And a lot of those precincts voted 100% Obama.

Further, this is Chicago. As in Chicago Machine. In normal times, they have a list of those ready to move in as cogs in the machine if something should happen to the cog they just elected. Jesse Jackson Jr.’s fall from power was not really a surprise to anyone. Running from a psych ward is kinda a hint. By the election, the Chicago regime had picked out his successor and a couple of fallbacks. By now, the voting machines are already rigged to give that chosen successor his overwhelming victory.

If the Chicxulub meteorite’s twin brother directly hit Chicago the day before the special election [actually not a bad idea, that] the chosen candidate would win with greater than 90% of the vote.

Subotai Bahadur on November 24, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Mike Ditka vs Michelle Obama

meci on November 24, 2012 at 12:13 PM

In Crook county, you have to be appointed Precinct Captain. Good luck with that. The GOP doesn’t even exist here.

southsideironworks on November 24, 2012 at 12:15 PM

Could we interest Allen West in a new seat?

rbj on November 24, 2012 at 12:24 PM

I’m thinking the seat goes to MRS. JESSE JACKSON, Jr.!!

- She’s a serving Alderman (“Machine approved”)

- She wins, and the Machine gets another approved replacement

- The seat stays in the Democrat family

- Everybody in the Windy City wins

Because “that’s the Chicago way”…

Khun Joe on November 24, 2012 at 12:28 PM

It’s who you know and who you blow in the Windy City.They should just have an auction for his seat.Get Dan Dotson of Storage Wars fame to hold it.

jeffinsjvca on November 24, 2012 at 12:39 PM

Could we interest Allen West in a new seat?

rbj on November 24, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Heh. That would be something to behold.

Lightswitch on November 24, 2012 at 12:44 PM

What a complete and total waste of time this opinion is. I live here…the black people are all retarded race voters and the white people are all…retarded partisan Democrats.

So you have a handful of Republicans and the rest are retarded. And the rest adds up to 70% of the votes.

Jaibones on November 24, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Because some of us live here. Some of us care. Some of us are heartily sick of The Machine, in general, and the Jackson family, in particular.

Hope that answers your question.

herm2416 on November 24, 2012 at 10:15 AM

..
It’s time to move.
You only legitamize their corruption by offering a pretense of a normal civic participation.
Stop fooling yourself.
Chicago is left of Moscow.
Time to split it up.

FlaMurph on November 24, 2012 at 12:57 PM

Chicago – the next Detroit thanks to corrupt Democrats. Own it.

Amazingoly on November 24, 2012 at 1:13 PM

You obviously haven’t read or heard any of the local media around Chicago on this. About a dozen are lining up to run for the seat, including former Blago attorney Sam Adam Jr, who’s white btw. Apparently the local black leaders in Baraka’s post-racial Amerika are telling everyone to cool their jets while they pick their one ideal black candidate so as not to dilute the black vote and lose the seat cuz in Obamuh’s Amerika I guess only a black is qualified to hold it. I don’t think this one is flying under the radar.

stukinIL4now on November 24, 2012 at 1:17 PM

The headline for this article completely threw me off. I thought that the lesson from this election was that we were going to go into urban areas and Democratic strongholds and PREACH the doctrines of FREE MARKETS. We were going to SELL politically inactive people who voted based on ethnicity on how conservative governance would improve their lives. I don’t care if it is a D+60 district, we are going to make our case loudly and proudly. Maybe next election it’s a D+40 district. Maybe two years later it’s a D+10 district.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? I thought we were going to fight. Where’s the spirit? Where’s the guts?

HTnFBCoachnTX1980 on November 24, 2012 at 11:49 AM

The Germans didn’t bomb Pearl Harbor, did you go to public school?

NapaConservative on November 24, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Hell would freeze over before this seat went Republican.

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM

I should mention that this seat is EVEN MORE DEMOCRATIC then….Nancy Pelosi’s seat in…..San Francisco….. ENOUGH SAID.

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 24, 2012 at 1:23 PM

With all this negativity, it’s no wonder we lose all the time.

Consider this… if Jackson’s replacement gets 30,000 votes, there are enough republican voters to beat that. Brian Woodworth lost 181,067 to 67,396. If we can get half of those 67,396 votes to show up we win.

Find out who those voters are… and we need enough people on the ground to knock on doors. You don’t have to use only people from that district. It would take time and work to do it. But it’s worth a shot.

If you want to win, we have to do the work needed…. AND NOT JUST COMPLAIN ON A BLOG.

dforston on November 24, 2012 at 1:33 PM

The Germans didn’t bomb Pearl Harbor, did you go to public school?

NapaConservative on November 24, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Um, it’s a joke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI

sentinelrules on November 24, 2012 at 1:52 PM

The Germans didn’t bomb Pearl Harbor, did you go to public school?

NapaConservative

Facepalm.

xblade on November 24, 2012 at 1:52 PM

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Wasn’t Senator Blutarsky from Chicago?

BubbaCluck on November 24, 2012 at 1:53 PM

The Germans didn’t bomb Pearl Harbor, did you go to public school?

NapaConservative on November 24, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Really? REALLY? REALLY?

What are you you, some kind of communist infiltrator?

M240H on November 24, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Perhaps, a better strategy, and one that might even be easier than winning as a Republican would be to re-take the Democrat party. Move the Tea Party into the Democrat party and with superior organizational skills, put in right thinking candidates who would vote the right way. I know this sounds like heresy, however, I just read the inevitable, “Jeb Bush in 2016″ story. The professional political class of the GOP will never go away. I am not about a party. I am about a country that works. We are never going to win as long as they keep running the same tired old dopes and their campaigns are run by the same professional GOP hacks.

flyoverland on November 24, 2012 at 2:24 PM

I think that it’s great to dream big but to think that any Republican will care anything near Chi-town is just that – a dream. If we Republicans can’t carry states like Florida and Ohio given all that the Dems have done since 2008 then I don’t know how a R candidate will ever win again on a national level (at least a conservative R anyway) given the Dem machine and the quasi-patronage system that they’ve set up. Like Rush said, it’s tough to run against Santa Claus, that is is until he runs out of elves.

volnation on November 24, 2012 at 2:26 PM

you don’t mean to tell me you really think we have a chance do you? in chicago? when hell freezes over brother. only when hell freezes over.

renalin on November 24, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Yeah. I guess never trying means never failing. Much safer that way.
May your chains rest lightly on you.

And people wonder why we lost on 11/6

Solaratov on November 24, 2012 at 2:44 PM

This isn’t too farfetched. The NO congressional seat was won by a Republican, after William Jefferson went to the hoosegow.

22044 on November 24, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Yeah, but most of his district had moved to Houston. Houston was happy to have them because they gave Houston a chance at being number one…………….IN MURDER!

Alabama Infidel on November 24, 2012 at 2:50 PM

It really doesn’t matter if this is a winnable seat or not. Its more important to fight and fight hard. Just fighting sends a message, we’re not done. We’re not defeated. Honestly I never understood why we don’t contest every office every time. The libs do that, and they’ve won. We can do that too. We need to let them no that there is no place in this country where they are safe.

Iblis on November 24, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Really? REALLY? REALLY?

What are you you, some kind of communist infiltrator?

M240H on November 24, 2012 at 2:12 PM

What? Because I didn’t get the Animal House reference I’m a communist infiltrator now?

NapaConservative on November 24, 2012 at 4:32 PM

The headline for this article completely threw me off. I thought that the lesson from this election was that we were going to go into urban areas and Democratic strongholds and PREACH the doctrines of FREE MARKETS. We were going to SELL politically inactive people who voted based on ethnicity on how conservative governance would improve their lives. I don’t care if it is a D+60 district, we are going to make our case loudly and proudly. Maybe next election it’s a D+40 district. Maybe two years later it’s a D+10 district.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? I thought we were going to fight. Where’s the spirit? Where’s the guts?

HTnFBCoachnTX1980 on November 24, 2012 at 11:49 AM

Yep. Have to start somewhere unless we are perfectly fine in conceding great portions of the country as lost forever.

We have to look upon it as starting to reverse decades of liberal indoctrination and education. Maybe 10% this time and keep shaving off percentages.

If we are looking to do it all at once we are definitely going to fail. We have to look at this as a long term strategy and one where we will not reap a benefit for a number of cycles.

Or are we conceding this forever?

kim roy on November 24, 2012 at 4:43 PM

It would certainly be an interesting test case in marketing a conservative, small government message to minority voters. It would be a tough row to hoe, but it might provide some insight into crafting a message that doesn’t just turn off minority voters.

paulus1 on November 24, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Come on. Even if the Republican got the most votes they would not get the seat because it’s Chicago, and who counts the votes there ?

mdavt on November 24, 2012 at 6:29 PM

We have to look at this as a long term strategy and one where we will not reap a benefit for a number of cycles.

kim roy on November 24, 2012 at 4:43 PM

That does contain the implicit assumption that the United States as a constitutional republic has a number of cycles left. There is sufficient evidence to indicate that such may not be the case. Easy to lose, hard if impossible to get back.

Even if electoral politics can still save the Republic; in a time of near universal election fraud by the Democrats, is it a wise use of our limited resources to mount an attack against an enemy strongpoint where they completely control the counting of the votes thus having all the advantages and have just coming off of defeating us, and we have none? The particular voters we would be targeting have neither knowledge nor respect for the Constitution or country, and the three main motivators for their behavior are race hatred, desire for welfare, and tribal loyalties.

I submit that in the belly of the beast, until things collapse to the point where such cannot be sustained and they suffer a dose of reality; that we need to find another target. YMMV

Subotai Bahadur on November 24, 2012 at 6:31 PM

Really? REALLY? REALLY?

What are you you, some kind of communist infiltrator?

M240H on November 24, 2012 at 2:12 PM

What? Because I didn’t get the Animal House reference I’m a communist infiltrator now?

NapaConservative on November 24, 2012 at 4:32 PM

I kid, I kid! Your bona fides remain unsullied.

M240H on November 24, 2012 at 6:48 PM

I kid, I kid! Your bona fides remain unsullied.

M240H on November 24, 2012 at 6:48 PM

My parents escaped the communist regime in Hungary back in the 60′s. The last thing I would be is a communist. The horror stories I’ve heard over the years…

NapaConservative on November 24, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Good luck with that. But if anyone is going to make a serious attempt, sign me up and I’ll help. Might as well keep the ol’ GOTV skill active. How about we leave ORCA out of this one?

dczombie on November 24, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Yeah, but most of his district had moved to Houston. Houston was happy to have them because they gave Houston a chance at being number one…………….IN MURDER!

Alabama Infidel on November 24, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Houston was just happy to have some more retarded Democrats to register, and NOLA had many to spare. Now Houston has a lesbian mayor.

Good for them.

Jaibones on November 25, 2012 at 12:07 AM

I kid, I kid! Your bona fides remain unsullied.

M240H on November 24, 2012 at 6:48 PM

My parents escaped the communist regime in Hungary back in the 60′s. The last thing I would be is a communist. The horror stories I’ve heard over the years…

NapaConservative on November 24, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Forgive me for acting like a kid- That is awesome! Wasn’t there an uprising around ’68? And not to diminish the horrors your family experienced, it is clear that badassery is in your genes. Glad to have you and your family here; wish we were doing more to be that worthy beacon of freedom.

M240H on November 25, 2012 at 12:29 AM

The people in the district should foot the bill. They had to know that he would be indicted.

Blake on November 24, 2012 at 10:34 AM

Thread winnah, thread winnah, turducken dinnah !

DevilsPrinciple on November 25, 2012 at 4:40 AM

Thank you M240H. The uprising in Hungary was in ’56. The ’68 uprising was in what was called Czechoslovakia at the time. Both uprisings were brutally crushed by the communists.

My parents got out in ’62, 6 years after the revolution. They never looked back and my Dad’s neck hair still rises when he’s reminded of the garbage that is a communist state.

NapaConservative on November 25, 2012 at 5:41 PM