listens2glenn on November 25, 2012 at 4:47 PM

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A judge attempting to impose religion on a citizen through sentencing is beyond f*cking absurd.

Dave Rywall on November 25, 2012 at 10:40 PM

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An atheist expressing defiance of the Intelligent Designer in every way he/she can, is beyond absurd.

Repeating what I said above:

The Founding Fathers wanted Christianity to influence the new American Government they had instituted. They worked hard to be denominationally neutral, as pertains to the various churches. They were not “religion neutral”, as pertains to other religions besides Christianity, including atheism.

This country IS founded on Christianity, and NOT “religious neutrality”.

The “convicted’s opinion being irrelevant” only pertains to the Judges sentencing. If the Judge provides an option of choices, then the convicts opinion matters.

The Founding Fathers wanted Christianity to influence the new American Government they had instituted. They worked hard to be denominationally neutral, as pertains to the various churches. They were not “religion neutral”, as pertains to other religions besides Christianity, including atheism.

This country IS founded on Christianity, and NOT “religious neutrality”.

listens2glenn on November 25, 2012 at 4:47 PM
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A judge attempting to impose religion on a citizen through sentencing is beyond f*cking absurd.

Hi, devout Roman Catholic here. *raises hand* And I agree with Dave. The judge should be disbarred.

A judge has no right to impose a sentence he believes would not pass a legal challenge, regardless of whether or not the two sides are likely to seek an appeal. The judge is admitting outright to doing something he knows would be overturned as unconstitutional on appeal. For that he deserves to be removed from the bench.

And I also agree with Dave that if the judge had sentenced the young man to spend the next year attending a mosque, heads would explode, including mine. That, to me, is all the proof I need that “go to church” should not be a valid sentencing option.

Shump on November 25, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Judges have a lot of discretion, more than you seem to realize. “disbarred”? That is ridiculously extreme, even if you don’t agree with his decision.

How about this: until/unless it gets overturned on appeal, I’ll leave it to people like you worry about what the judge did!

“Constitutionally okay” (my apologies for the misspelling)

Uh, no.

Muslim judge sentences man to attend Mosque.

Hotair cries like a thousand babies/implodes.

And the convicted’s opinion is irrelevant.

Dave Rywall on November 25, 2012 at 4:03 PM

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God is alive, and works. Allah is not, and does not.

The “convicted’s opinion being irrelevant” only pertains to the Judges sentencing. If the Judge provides an option of choices, then the convicts opinion matters.

The Founding Fathers wanted Christianity to influence the new American Government they had instituted. They worked hard to be denominationally neutral, as pertains to the various churches. They were not “religion neutral”, as pertains to other religions besides Christianity, including atheism.

This country IS founded on Christianity, and NOT “religious neutrality”.

Yes, I do.

What the judge did was Contitutionally okay.

You could try contacting this young man, to ask him how upset, insulted, and oppressed this judges decision makes him feel.
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Also, I think we should sentence YOU to church. Not just any church, either. You should be sentenced to one of those “Hallelujah-Pentecostal-Charismaniac-foot stomping, hand-clapping” churches !

listens2glenn on November 25, 2012 at 3:45 PM
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“Contitutionally okay”

Uh, no.

Muslim judge sentences man to attend Mosque.

Hotair cries like a thousand babies/implodes.

And the convicted’s opinion is irrelevant.

listens2glenn on November 25, 2012 at 11:55 AM

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The judge doesn’t have the right or power to put finishing high school or going to church on the table.

You don’t get it.

That’s okay.

Dave Rywall on November 25, 2012 at 12:06 PM

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Yes he does.

Yes, I do.

What the judge did was Contitutionally okay.

You could try contacting this young man, to ask him how upset, insulted, and oppressed this judges decision makes him feel.
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Also, I think we should sentence YOU to church. Not just any church, either. You should be sentenced to one of those “Hallelujah-Pentecostal-Charismaniac-foot stomping, hand-clapping” churches !

Norman said he didn’t believe his sentence would pass a legal challenge — but he doesn’t believe either side will seek an appeal.

“Both families were satisfied with the decision,” Norman said in an interview. “I talked to the district attorney before I passed sentence. I did what I felt like I needed to do.”

What is it with so many hysterically angry and unpleasant atheists, anyway? It’s like they’re putting on a clown show every time they start ranting about religion and “the God delusion”! :)

Anti-Control on November 25, 2012 at 1:22 AM

Hi, devout Roman Catholic here. *raises hand* And I agree with Dave. The judge should be disbarred.

A judge has no right to impose a sentence he believes would not pass a legal challenge, regardless of whether or not the two sides are likely to seek an appeal. The judge is admitting outright to doing something he knows would be overturned as unconstitutional on appeal. For that he deserves to be removed from the bench.

And I also agree with Dave that if the judge had sentenced the young man to spend the next year attending a mosque, heads would explode, including mine. That, to me, is all the proof I need that “go to church” should not be a valid sentencing option.

It was the kid’s fault that he had his “options in life” narrowed down, like that.

The kid, and his attorney didn’t have to agree to “church and school”.

I don’t believe the Defense was too angry with the option presented by the judge, either.

Only yourself, and the other resident atheist activists are.

listens2glenn on November 25, 2012 at 11:55 AM
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The judge doesn’t have the right or power to put finishing high school or going to church on the table.

You don’t get it.

That’s okay.

The judge has ZERO RIGHT TO IMPOSE RELIGION ON A U.S. CITIZEN

The judge has ZERO RIGHT TO FORCE A U.S. CITIZEN TO ATTEND HIGH SCHOOL

The end.

Get your head out of your ass and read your own constitution.

Dave Rywall on November 25, 2012 at 11:16 AM

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Not sure what you mean by “force”.

It was the kid’s fault that he had his “options in life” narrowed down, like that.

The kid, and his attorney didn’t have to agree to “church and school”.

I don’t believe the Defense was too angry with the option presented by the judge, either.

Only yourself, and the other resident atheist activists are.

listens2glenn on November 25, 2012 at 11:04 AM

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“The judge could have sent Alred to jail but, instead, taking into account his clean criminal and school records, sentenced him to wear a drug and alcohol bracelet, participate in counseling groups and attend a church of his choosing – weekly. He must also graduate from high school.”

The judge has ZERO RIGHT TO IMPOSE RELIGION ON A U.S. CITIZEN

The judge has ZERO RIGHT TO FORCE A U.S. CITIZEN TO ATTEND HIGH SCHOOL

The end.

Get your head out of your ass and read your own constitution.

Disbar this piece of (expletive) judge.

Dave Rywall on November 24, 2012 at 11:47 PM

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Why?

unclesmrgol on November 25, 2012 at 12:03 AM

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For not doing his job.

Dave Rywall on November 25, 2012 at 12:09 AM

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The kid deserves to go to jail, so the Christian activist (expletive) judge should do his job instead of being an obnoxious missionary.

He should be removed from the bench.

Dave Rywall on November 25, 2012 at 9:51 AM

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You know the news is . . . . . and now, the rrrrrest of the story.
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If the judge was Muslim and had sentenced Alred to 10 weeks at a mosque, your little head would have exploded

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If Alred was Muslim and the judge said ten weeks of church and Alred said fine, I’ll do my time at a mosque, your little head would have exploded

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The only non-stupid thing you said was” the point could be against judges giving light sentences”

Dave Rywall on November 25, 2012 at 9:59 AM

Lighten up a$$hat!

Dave Rywall on November 25, 2012 at 9:51 AM

You are crazed with anger, and take your humorless self and your unintelligent opinions far too seriously. Are you self-aware enough to comprehend what I’m saying? Are you an alcoholic, eh? lol

Is it your goal, or job, to make HA visitors like me take you unseriously and laugh at you? Well, whether you’re trying to be such an entertaining jack-off or not, thanks for your contributions to the cause! :)

We see a lot of little stories like this in the news. This
is how it starts. Christians did this. Religion can’t or should
not do this or that. Jews did it. etc. etc. Christians didn’t vote for Romney! Its their fault we have Obama.

Especially at this time of year when the war against putting up
nativities ramps up.

Or, the point could be against judges giving light sentences,
or a “no no” against underaged drinking. Or, no point at all.

I vote for the latter.

Amjean on November 25, 2012 at 7:44 AM
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If the judge was Muslim and had sentenced Alred to 10 weeks at a mosque, your little head would have exploded

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If Alred was Muslim and the judge said ten weeks of church and Alred said fine, I’ll do my time at a mosque, your little head would have exploded

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The only non-stupid thing you said was” the point could be against judges giving light sentences”

Dave Rywall on November 24, 2012 at 11:47 PM

For not doing his job.

Dave Rywall on November 25, 2012 at 12:09 AM

Dave Rywall reminds me of the unhinged, self-righteous and self-important, psychologically dysfunctional Richard Dawkins. Did Dave Rywall miss the following?

Norman said he didn’t believe his sentence would pass a legal challenge — but he doesn’t believe either side will seek an appeal.

“Both families were satisfied with the decision,” Norman said in an interview. “I talked to the district attorney before I passed sentence. I did what I felt like I needed to do.”

What is it with so many hysterically angry and unpleasant atheists, anyway? It’s like they’re putting on a clown show every time they start ranting about religion and “the God delusion”! :)

Anti-Control on November 25, 2012 at 1:22 AM
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Only a f*cking moron would believe that a judge has the power to impose religion on a US citizen as part of a sentence.

Oh, wait – that’d be you.

The kid deserves to go to jail, so the Christian activist as*hole judge should do his job instead of being an obnoxious missionary.

He should be removed from the bench.

Faith, devotion and worship should not be a form of punishment.

Cindy Munford on November 24, 2012 at 7:13 PM

I think the wording in the headline is misleading. It shouldn’t be stated that he was sentenced to 10 years of weekly church attendance. The offender in this case it seems, had the opportunity to totally avoid genuine punishment. The young man received a 10 year deferred sentence, on the condition that he attend church. He actually received no punishment at all. Hopefully, considering what the alternative could have been for him, he’s joyfully leaping out of bed on Sunday mornings and is thanking Jesus for coming to his rescue. :-)

We see a lot of little stories like this in the news. This
is how it starts. Christians did this. Religion can’t or should
not do this or that. Jews did it. etc. etc. Christians didn’t vote for Romney! Its their fault we have Obama.

Especially at this time of year when the war against putting up
nativities ramps up.

Or, the point could be against judges giving light sentences,
or a “no no” against underaged drinking. Or, no point at all.

I vote for the latter.

dalewalt on November 25, 2012 at 12:46 AM

What an inspiring story! Best wishes to your son.

:)

Cindy Munford on November 24, 2012 at 7:13 PM

Agreed. You can lead a horse to water . . .

Getting sentenced to Church is worst than prison. You have to get up early on a Sunday, get stuck tooth and jowls with a bunch of fat hypocritical losers, listen to BS fairy tales about a useless unfeeling “god” construct and his gay zombie son than get begged continually for cash for fat cat pederast. No thanks prison is much more life affirming and better then “church”.

Your Mamma loves me on November 24, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Damn, AllahPundit is posting under different names?

On any given Sunday only about 22% of the population in Oklahoma is in church.

What’s your point?

davidk on November 24, 2012 at 7:51 PM

That 80%+ of Oklahoma is Christian? Duh.

Now, what’s your point?

Bruno Strozek on November 24, 2012 at 9:12 PM

I don’t know what you’re going on about, but plea dealing is exceedingly common and has been for a long time.

It’s like they’re putting on a clown show every time they start ranting about religion and “the God delusion”! :)

Anti-Control on November 25, 2012 at 1:22 AM

Clown show is right, and they’re enormous hypocrites – each one of them would have taken the deal rather than go to jail, and they know it, which drives them berserk.

Disbar this piece of shit judge.

Dave Rywall on November 24, 2012 at 11:47 PM

For not doing his job.

Dave Rywall on November 25, 2012 at 12:09 AM

Dave Rywall reminds me of the unhinged, self-righteous and self-important, psychologically dysfunctional Richard Dawkins. Did Dave Rywall miss the following?

Norman said he didn’t believe his sentence would pass a legal challenge — but he doesn’t believe either side will seek an appeal.

“Both families were satisfied with the decision,” Norman said in an interview. “I talked to the district attorney before I passed sentence. I did what I felt like I needed to do.”

What is it with so many hysterically angry and unpleasant atheists, anyway? It’s like they’re putting on a clown show every time they start ranting about religion and “the God delusion”! :)