House to vote on revised STEM jobs bill

posted at 5:31 pm on November 24, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

The dust hadn’t even settled from the debacle of 2012 before we heard that the GOP would be warming up to the idea of immigration reform in an effort to make some inroads with Hispanic voters. Apparently we won’t have to wait for the next Congress to be seated before we see some steps in that direction. Word has come out this weekend that House Republicans will introduce a revised version of the previously defeated STEM Jobs Act, which seeks to expand the pool of green cards available for families of well educated immigrant workers.

Republican leaders made it clear after the election that the party was ready to get serious about overhauling the nation’s dysfunctional immigration system, a top priority for Hispanic communities. Taking up what is called the STEM Jobs Act during the lame-duck session could be seen as a first step in that direction…

Republicans are changing the formula this time by adding a provision long sought by some immigration advocates — expanding a program that allows the spouses and minor children of people with permanent residence, or green card, to wait in the United States for their own green cards to be granted.

There are some 80,000 of these family-based green cards allocated every year, but there are currently about 322,000 husbands, wives and children waiting in this category and on average people must wait more than two years to be reunited with their families. In that past that wait could be as long as six years.

The proposal involves issuing 55,000 green cards to family members of immigrants with doctoral and masters degrees in these high tech fields, and takes the additional step of allowing them to come to the country one year after they apply for a green card of their own. (The family members still wouldn’t be able to work until their own green cards are approved and received, though.) But still, since this is something both sides seem to want, we’ll finally see some bipartisan accomplishments instead of a do nothing Congress, right?

Not so fast.

But the legislation would still eliminate the Diversity Visa Lottery Program which gives out a similar 55,000 green cards a year to those from countries, including many in Africa, with traditionally low rates of immigration to the U.S. That prompted the House’s Hispanic Caucus, Congressional Black Caucus and Congressional Asian Pacific American Caucus to all come out against it in September.

The three caucuses said Republicans were trying to increase legal immigration for people they want by ending immigration for people they don’t want.

This was the same sticking point which sunk the bill last time, at least in part. And it seems like a rather awkward point to make a stand on now. We’re talking about 55,000 green cards which are already being given out anyway, and trying to shut down the program simply gives the Democrats cover to oppose an immigration reform bill which they primarily don’t like because the GOP came up with it. Further, it seems to send precisely the opposite message of the corrective movement the GOP is supposedly trying to execute.

The bill, even without the Diversity VISA Lottery attachment, expands immigration, demonstrates understanding of the need for immigrants to have their families with them, and still manages to focus the effort on the highly educated, skilled workers who can help boost economic growth and jobs. Why stick with a “balancing” measure which does nothing but feed ammunition to the opponent? I understand why we want bills spending X amount of money to be offset by X amount of savings. But this deals with the number of immigrants entering the country. I don’t think the formula holds here.


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Um, guys? What part of “recession” or “depression” is unclear to you? We don’t have enough jobs for citizens you jack asses!

dogsoldier on November 24, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Once again, an example of “politically convenient vs. actually effective.”

Why should we be encouraging immigration from specific countries over others? We want immigrants who want to be productive, contributing members of society. We don’t care where they come from, and giving special perks to one country means we’re not giving those same perks to another.

Mohonri on November 24, 2012 at 5:38 PM

He!! if you do or he!! if you don’t r’s? Me thinks that the only thing bho/team/d’s will go for is amnesty? Why is just a number of select get amnesty when the others who want to come here legally can’t? Is it WHO they are and where they are from that gets the top attention?
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letget on November 24, 2012 at 5:38 PM

Just throw out all the quotas and start charging admission.

Count to 10 on November 24, 2012 at 5:38 PM

And the amnesty doors slowly creaks open.

davidk on November 24, 2012 at 5:47 PM

Lol! Every day I get to say, “I Told You So!” The eSTABrepubs, want to make sure they will lose every Conservative, Libertarian & Evangelical vote in the country! You keep right on selling out to Benedict Obama, while giving the Dems, the ammunition to beat you like a drum, again! These morons are truly stuck in the “Inside The Beltway”, media bubble & are falling right into the same old trap, like the blithering idiots, they’ve shown themselves to be! The Dems are laughing at you idiots and your sitting there patting yourselves on the back. Keep reaching back there, you’ll need that practice, when it comes time to remove the knife the Dems & the Obama Enemy media, are going to sink deep in your backs! The rest of us will be watching, laughing & pointing at how your stupid arrogance ended your power, before we could vote you out!
BTW, WE WILL SAY, “I TOLD YOU SO!”

http://www.paratisiusa.blogspot.com

God Bless America!

paratisi on November 24, 2012 at 5:47 PM

Fire up the new and improved super dooper pooper scooper democrat vote factory.

Speakup on November 24, 2012 at 5:50 PM

Just throw out all the quotas and start charging admission.

Count to 10 on November 24, 2012 at 5:38 PM

Why should the coyote smugglers make all the money.

davidk on November 24, 2012 at 5:51 PM

Um, guys? What part of “recession” or “depression” is unclear to you? We don’t have enough jobs for citizens you jack asses!

dogsoldier on November 24, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Damn. Threadwinner on the very first post.

Stoic Patriot on November 24, 2012 at 5:54 PM

Just more mouths looking for food when this all burns. Thanks for the reminder to buy more ammo for homestead defense. Probably have enough already, but it’ll be worth it’s weight in gold at some point, lol.

Midas on November 24, 2012 at 5:56 PM

Given how many voters didn’t show up to vote for the Democrats (down 7 million), and how poorly Romney did as well, I imagine both parties are now interested in finding a more enthusiastic pool of voters.

sharrukin on November 24, 2012 at 5:56 PM

in regards to having people OBEYING THE LAW…what is the difference between Democrats and Republicans again?
And when it comes to spending?

KOOLAID2 on November 24, 2012 at 5:57 PM

dogsoldier on November 24, 2012 at 5:35 PM

IMO, jobs isn’t the point. Getting votes for d’s and cratering our Republic with so much ‘free stuff’ if the goal?

I wouldn’t mind peope coming over to our country who want to be here if they would LEARN/READ/UNDERSTAND our laungage, but when those who come over the southern border just stomp on our flag and demand demand more and more from us, I have a tiny problem. Do others coming here legally not want to learn and help?
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letget on November 24, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Let it burn.

The Rogue Tomato on November 24, 2012 at 6:30 PM

This will not pass until the Democrats get everyting, and I mean everthing that they want…

… Why even go through the motions?

Seven Percent Solution on November 24, 2012 at 6:52 PM

It’s kind of funny that these idiots all seem to think that this “immigration” is all Hispanic. Do they not understand that this across the board BS could also include middle eastern men between the ages of 18 and 45? And we all know what that means.

Open the door to them. Go ahead. They are our friends, they’re not terrorists, oh no, they’re not.

Key West Reader on November 24, 2012 at 6:57 PM

Our our good representative trying to find another way to create chain migration? Will these immigrants be coddled with social programs to support them?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGAiW5dOnKo&feature=fvwrel

onlineanalyst on November 24, 2012 at 6:57 PM

Are our…

onlineanalyst on November 24, 2012 at 7:01 PM

Key West Reader on November 24, 2012 at 6:57 PM

KWR- you mentioned Matthew 24 the other night on a thread. I am reading “The Harbinger” by Jonathan Cahn. I think you will find it very informative.

wolverinefan on November 24, 2012 at 7:04 PM

Wow. And you all are shocked and offended when you get called out by “the Media” for your racism? Just put up a post discussing the prospect of making it easier for talented people from other countries to come here legally with their families and watch the racism on full display.

Alpha_Male on November 24, 2012 at 7:05 PM

The GOP will ensure that Benghazi will be forgotten

The GOP will ensure that fast and furious will be forgotten

They will ensure this by allowing the dems and the media to create a massive marketing campaign for amnesty to pressure the weak will party. Distracting them from their duty to uphold The Constitution.

And you will continue to vote for them. And support them financially. Yes indeed. You will continue to participate in the destruction of your own country.

Just look at the evidence. History has proven me right. Time and again I’ve warned you. I’ve warned since GW Bush. Yet you continue to be pulled along by the nose to the edge of the abyss that you allowed to be created.

The GOP will betray you

True_King on November 24, 2012 at 7:07 PM

Why stick with a “balancing” measure which does nothing but feed ammunition to the opponent?

Because it’s the right thing to do? I know, radical concept, right?

I understand why we want bills spending X amount of money to be offset by X amount of savings. But this deals with the number of immigrants entering the country. I don’t think the formula holds here.

And that’s part of the problem. Too many people think like you do, and we’re losing the country because of it.

xblade on November 24, 2012 at 7:14 PM

Wow. And you all are shocked and offended when you get called out by “the Media” for your racism? Just put up a post discussing the prospect of making it easier for talented people from other countries to come here legally with their families and watch the racism on full display.

Alpha_SheMale

WOW….closet bigot liberal mental patient plays race card. What a shocking development that no one ever saw coming, lol.

xblade on November 24, 2012 at 7:23 PM

And you will continue to vote for them. And support them financially. Yes indeed. You will continue to participate in the destruction of your own country.

True_King on November 24, 2012 at 7:07 PM

Oh I don’t know about that. I think I’m finally at the point where I’ve lost all hope for the GOP. Drudge has an article posted about Romney’s aides calling some Republicans hypocrites! ( Hint,hint Jindal and Gingrich). They were asking for cabinet positions before the election-now they’ve turned on Romney! Sickening!!!

wolverinefan on November 24, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Alpha_Male on November 24, 2012 at 7:05 PM

Is that you, Chrissy?

scalleywag on November 24, 2012 at 7:29 PM

wolverinefan on November 24, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Yea, I saw that. I hope Jindal doesn’t make a run in 2016, I don’t think he’s all that qualified. Newt is toast so I can see why he wanted a cabinet post so badly. I hope NONE of the last crop of candidates run again, not a single one of them. We need some new players.

scalleywag on November 24, 2012 at 7:46 PM

Alpha_Male on November 24, 2012 at 7:05 PM

That’s not racism, pal. We have highly educated people here who are being laid off.

onlineanalyst on November 24, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Drudge has an article posted about Romney’s aides calling some Republicans hypocrites! ( Hint,hint Jindal and Gingrich). They were asking for cabinet positions before the election-now they’ve turned on Romney! Sickening!!!

wolverinefan on November 24, 2012 at 7:24 PM

True.

I was never really on the Jindal bandwagon, but this episode has markedly lowered my estimation of him.

bofh on November 24, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Alpha_Male on November 24, 2012 at 7:05 PM

I got your ‘racism‘, lefty…hangin’.

Solaratov on November 24, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Why stick with a “balancing” measure which does nothing but feed ammunition to the opponent?

Because the Diversity Visa Lottery should never have been implemented in the first place. It’s a line-jumping program.
There are temporary legal residents in the United States who are high skilled workers(with H-1B and L-1 visas) who remain on temporary visas for years (in some cases, more than a decade) with no clear path to becoming permanent residents. Now along comes the visa lottery and 50,000 random people are picked from around the world and handed permanent resident status. And by the way, in the Visa Lottery program the threshhold to qualify is only a high school diploma or equivalent. Do we really need to allow entrance to more no to low skilled workers for the sake of diversity. Don’t think so.

lynncgb on November 24, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Because the Diversity Visa Lottery should never have been implemented in the first place. It’s a line-jumping program.
There are temporary legal residents in the United States who are high skilled workers(with H-1B and L-1 visas) who remain on temporary visas for years (in some cases, more than a decade) with no clear path to becoming permanent residents. Now along comes the visa lottery and 50,000 random people are picked from around the world and handed permanent resident status. And by the way, in the Visa Lottery program the threshhold to qualify is only a high school diploma or equivalent. Do we really need to allow entrance to more no to low skilled workers for the sake of diversity. Don’t think so.

lynncgb on November 24, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Ding Ding Ding we have a winner.

SgtSVJones on November 24, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Since 1990 we have had 55,000 extra Visas floating round. Which could more properly go to people who are actually useful to our country.

SgtSVJones on November 24, 2012 at 8:23 PM

lynncgb on November 24, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Oh…and I forgot to mention there is also alot of skepticism regarding the safety of the program because of the lax vetting of Diversity Visa lottery winners, including those from terror-sponsoring countries. This reason alone should have been enough to stop the program a long, long time ago.

lynncgb on November 24, 2012 at 8:29 PM

Alpha_Male on November 24, 2012 at 7:05 PM

*yawn*

Best ya got? Project your own racism elsewhere, m’kay? Meantime, STFU, and FOAD.

Midas on November 24, 2012 at 8:35 PM

That’s the ticket, start to act like democrats and lose 5 times as many conservatives. At best a swap of border security for expanded legal immigration has a chance. But without that it is just Republicans doing what they do best, waffling.

CTimbo on November 25, 2012 at 4:37 AM

letget on November 24, 2012 at 6:03 PM

After we get our economic house in order, we survey the immigration policies of other countries and require immigrants to have a decent bank balance and skills we really (like actually ) need.

Not like the current H1-B farce that no one in media will talk about.

Otherwise, no, I don’t want them here and I want the “visitors” who are here already occupying a job that rightfully belongs to a US citizen TO GO BACK WHERE THEY CAME FROM.

Do you have any idea what it feels like to get invited to interview at a place only to discover that everyone interviewing you is not a citizen AND that you’re only there so they can claim they interviewed some citizens “but couldn’t find the skills they need” and that you’re giving them cover to hire another H1-B?

How would you like that to happen three or four times in the span of two weeks?

It’s infuriating.

dogsoldier on November 25, 2012 at 10:15 AM

“The three caucuses said Republicans were trying to increase legal immigration for people they want by ending immigration for people they don’t want.”

Good for the Republicans. The point of allowing immigration should be to help the US. As usual, the Democrats only favor things when they hurt the US.

Greg Q on November 25, 2012 at 4:47 PM