Boehner: Hold up, the ObamaCare fight isn’t over yet

posted at 7:46 pm on November 21, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

Speaker of the House John Boehner got quite a bit of flack a couple weeks ago when he said that “ObamaCare is the law of the land” in response to a question about whether he’d continue to try and get the massive bureaucratic nightmare repealed — I think it smacked of “time to give up and move on” a little too much for some conservatives’ tastes. Ergo, in an op-ed last night, Boehner tried to refine that message a bit, instead noting that certain avenues are now less viable for Republicans’ goals, but that they can still mix up their strategy to get things accomplished:

The tactics of our repeal efforts will have to change. But the strategic imperative remains the same. If we’re serious about getting our economy moving again, solving our debt and restoring prosperity for American families, we need to repeal Obamacare and enact common-sense, step-by-step reforms that start with lowering the cost of health care.

The president’s health care law adds a massive, expensive, unworkable government program at a time when our national debt already exceeds the size of our country’s entire economy. We can’t afford it, and we can’t afford to leave it intact. That’s why I’ve been clear that the law has to stay on the table as both parties discuss ways to solve our nation’s massive debt challenge.

Congress has a constitutional responsibility to conduct thorough oversight of the executive branch, and congressional oversight will play a critical role in repealing Obamacare going forward.

Over the past couple of years, I have noted there are essentially three major routes to repeal of the president’s law: the courts, the presidential election process and the congressional oversight process. With two of those three routes having come up short, the third and final one becomes more important than ever.

As ObamaCare is slowly but steadily implemented (there are plenty of rules that haven’t even been written yet, remember), the Speaker is right that there are going to be a million and one things for which Congress will need to watch out. Waste, fraud, abuse, corruption, administrative incompetence, and unintended consequences galore — they’re part and parcel of any too-big-for-its-britches bureaucratic endeavor like this. No, ObamaCare will not be repealed while Obama is still in office, but shining a light onto the seedier aspects and calamitous effects of the law is going to be a big part of the national discussion in the coming years.

Boehner also went on to praise Ohio gov. Kasich’s decision to pass on implementing a government-run insurance exchange, highlighting the role that governors can have in resisting health care’s federal takeover — as James Capretta and Yuval Levin put it in the WSJ the other day:

Talk of the law’s inevitability is intended to pressure these governors into implementing it on the administration’s behalf. But states still have two key choices to make that together will put them in the driver’s seat: whether to create state health-insurance exchanges, and whether to expand Medicaid. They should say “no” to both. …

Running the exchanges would be an administrative nightmare for states, requiring a complicated set of rules, mandates, databases and interfaces to establish eligibility, funnel subsidies, and facilitate purchases. All of this would have to take place under broad and often incoherent statutory requirements and federal regulations that have yet to be written. …

States would endure all this simply to become functionaries of the federal government. The idea that creating state exchanges would give states control over their insurance markets is a fantasy. The states would be enforcing a federal law and federal regulations, with very little room for independent judgment. …

By declining to build exchanges, the states would pass the burden and costs of the exchanges to the administration that sought this law. And it is far from clear that the administration could operate the exchanges on its own.


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I’m very confident that career p*ssy John Beohner will save us

Slade73 on November 21, 2012 at 7:52 PM

Boehner’s wishy washiness makes me crazy. Here’s hoping that the Gov’s just say no and let this mess fail and fall on the head of O and the Dems. When people are being fined and there is no exchange functioning……..there will be repercussions.

CoffeeLover on November 21, 2012 at 7:54 PM

third

Slade73 on November 21, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Bold ploy.

…and I’ll forget I said that when he caves.

Again.

98ZJUSMC on November 21, 2012 at 7:55 PM

The tactics of our repeal efforts will have to change.

The House holds the purse strings. Just refuse to FUND IT!

predator on November 21, 2012 at 7:55 PM

ObamaCare is the most massive undertaking in the history of the world. Bigger than Social Security. Bigger than Medicare. Bigger than the IRS. Bigger than the Normandy Invasion.

An undertaking by the same government that can’t deliver bottled water to New Jersey.

I’m predicting epic fail. At our expense.

Curtiss on November 21, 2012 at 7:55 PM

For once, can the GOP be on the “our way or the highway” side…for once, surprise us.

hillsoftx on November 21, 2012 at 7:57 PM

By declining to build exchanges, the states would pass the burden and costs of the exchanges to the administration that sought this law. And it is far from clear that the administration could operate the exchanges on its own.

It’s also far from clear that John Beohner has enough balls to have a deep voice.

MikeA on November 21, 2012 at 7:57 PM

there are plenty of rules that haven’t even been written yet, remember

Some of the most corrupt Congresspersons of the last two centuries are looking up from hell saying:

They get away with this?!?!?

98ZJUSMC on November 21, 2012 at 7:58 PM

John Beohner is oranger than Nacho Cheese Doritos with 80% more alcohol

Slade73 on November 21, 2012 at 8:00 PM

predator on November 21, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Seconded!!

Scrumpy on November 21, 2012 at 8:01 PM

The tactics of our repeal efforts will have to change.

The House holds the purse strings. Just refuse to FUND IT!

predator on November 21, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Wasn’t that the sole reason we were excited in 2010 to see the GOP take the House…what happened to them neutering funding?

hillsoftx on November 21, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Slade73 on November 21, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Very funny very very funny :-D

Scrumpy on November 21, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Thank God he woke up a little. It encourages me that he at least made this statement! Means lots of people out there feeling the same as most of us here! Good!

JellyToast on November 21, 2012 at 8:02 PM

John Beohner is oranger than Nacho Cheese Doritos with 80% more alcohol

Slade73 on November 21, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Looks like he doused himself in bourbon and rolled around in cheetos.

HumpBot Salvation on November 21, 2012 at 8:02 PM

It’s also far from clear that John Beohner has enough balls to have a deep voice.

MikeA on November 21, 2012 at 7:57 PM

true … and I doubt he has the wherewithal to pull it off.

When people are being fined and there is no exchange functioning……..there will be repercussions.

CoffeeLover on November 21, 2012 at 7:54 PM

I agree … let this all fall on the Iwon ….

conservative tarheel on November 21, 2012 at 8:03 PM

Does anyone actually believe that the spineless go along to get along GOP under the tearful leadership of John Beohner will actually do anything other than make some vaguely conservative sounding noise before they cave?

Stephen Macklin on November 21, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Wasn’t that the sole reason we were excited in 2010 to see the GOP take the House…what happened to them neutering funding?

hillsoftx on November 21, 2012 at 8:01 PM

That’s what I thought. But I guess not.

predator on November 21, 2012 at 8:06 PM

but wouldn’t the state taxpayers fund the blue states? How does that work, the taxpayers are on the hook somewhere

r keller on November 21, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Wasn’t that the sole reason we were excited in 2010 to see the GOP take the House…what happened to them neutering funding?

hillsoftx on November 21, 2012 at 8:01 PM

The GOP will betray you.

fossten on November 21, 2012 at 8:07 PM

r keller on November 21, 2012 at 8:06 PM

I live in deep blue Illinois, so I would figure that we’ll create the exchange. On the other hand, Quinn did terminate the state’s AFSCME contract, according to the local rag.

We. Are. Broke.

predator on November 21, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Boehner: Hold up, the ObamaCare fight isn’t over yet

What, you haven’t had a really good cry in public about it yet?

SWalker on November 21, 2012 at 8:10 PM

If I could install anyone as speaker John Boehner would be 534th on the list. Some botoxed hag from San Francisco would be last.

Slade73 on November 21, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Thanks for checking in, Congressman Squishy-man. I’ve utter confidence that you and Senator Squish McConnell will stand up and **harrumph** at the super-unacceptableness of ObamaCare.
And then, you’ll cave. Again. As usual.

Boehner and McConnell: Country Club Republicans, with neither the focus nor relentless drive of their liberal opponents. THESE are the wartime consiglieres that we have to fight with?

orangemtl on November 21, 2012 at 8:13 PM

I think it smacked of “time to give up and move on” a little too much for some conservatives’ tastes.

You think? :)

Axe on November 21, 2012 at 8:13 PM

silly rabbit, it’s a Care, not a Tax!

Slade73 on November 21, 2012 at 8:17 PM

If I could install anyone as speaker John Boehner would be 534th on the list. Some botoxed hag from San Francisco would be last.

Slade73 on November 21, 2012 at 8:11 PM

the hag at least delivered for their team. whats the crybaby done for us.

absolutley nada.

renalin on November 21, 2012 at 8:17 PM

The House should pass a bill repealing the employer mandate. Force Senate to defend all the jobs lost/ hours cut. Baby steps.

Buy Danish on November 21, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Far as I’m concerned, Boehner is trying to do what I call ‘existence justification’.

I would rather have Charlie Brown as Speaker, for at least Chuck has some kind of character.

Happy Thanksgiving, Hotairians!

Liam on November 21, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Never thought I’d say this, but sc– you, Boehner.

You and the rest of the lily-livered RNC believe nothing and stand for nothing. You failed to campaign against Obamacare in the campaign, why the heck should we believe it means anything to you? You bend with the wind, you talk about only repealing parts of Obamacare. Why should we believe that this is anything but an election/shore up the base ploy for you?

The adults in the country want a substantive discussion. Sorry if you’re still about people being children til 26 and threatening to be sensitive to the vagina wars.

Seriously. When, if ever, will Republicans stand for something beyond touch-feelly election boilerplate?

obladioblada on November 21, 2012 at 8:23 PM

If being in Congress was basically kicking the can down the road, John Boehner would be freakin’ speaker of the House

Slade73 on November 21, 2012 at 8:23 PM

One of the problems with our government is that they are used
to going their own way with little accountability. The corrupt
media won’t do their job and the rest of us are exhausted from
doing ours.

Boehner initially made an off hand comment, because he didn’t
think he needed to explain what the gop efforts were going to be.

He was forced to clarify his position because he received a lot
of voicemails, emails, etc.

Conservatives are very ticked off, rinos may be ticked off too
for all I know. As long as we expect to be informed we will be.
We need to keep holding their feet to the fire!!!

Amjean on November 21, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Yea, and Boehner is really, really going to do SOMETHING to stop Obamacare THIS time! He has not done anything as of yet! Never stopped funding, not even threatened to stop funding. His actions speak louder than his words. Does he really think we are idiots?

JimmyGee on November 21, 2012 at 8:30 PM

The House should pass a bill repealing the employer mandate. Force Senate to defend all the jobs lost/ hours cut. Baby steps.

Buy Danish on November 21, 2012 at 8:20 PM

harry the reid will get to right after passing a budget

newrouter on November 21, 2012 at 8:35 PM

So when are we all going to contact his office and tell him we fully expect him to fold like a cheap lawn chair?

It’s high time WE were the ones reducing him to tears.

CurtZHP on November 21, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Does he really think we are idiots?

JimmyGee on November 21, 2012 at 8:30 PM

I think he only cares about the Tanning Bed Tax

Slade73 on November 21, 2012 at 8:36 PM

If the corrupt GOP establishment really cared about Obamacare they wouldn’t have nominated Romneycare.

FloatingRock on November 21, 2012 at 8:36 PM

One of the problems with our government is that they are used
to going their own way with little accountability…

Amjean on November 21, 2012 at 8:30 PM

All governments are run, basically, by people who are ungoverned.

Liam on November 21, 2012 at 8:37 PM

t’s high time WE were the ones reducing him to tears.

CurtZHP on November 21, 2012 at 8:36 PM

yup .. maybe someone will primary him and Mitch … that would make me
smile.

conservative tarheel on November 21, 2012 at 8:40 PM

All governments are run, basically, by people who are ungoverned.

Liam on November 21, 2012 at 8:37 PM

Who will guard the guards?

predator on November 21, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Yawn…

White House To Boehner: Obamacare Not Part Of Fiscal Cliff Deal

Seven Percent Solution on November 21, 2012 at 8:42 PM

yup .. maybe someone will primary him and Mitch … that would make me
smile.

conservative tarheel on November 21, 2012 at 8:40 PM

I think I read somewhere the other day that Mitch is being primaried. (Townhall, maybe?)

predator on November 21, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Happy Thanksgiving, Hotairians!

Liam on November 21, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Liam:And to you as well,


*Happy ThanksGiving to my Southern Neighbours in Bars’N Stars-Land*:)
********************************************************************

canopfor on November 21, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Boehner et al are dead to me.

rrpjr on November 21, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Who will guard the guards?

predator on November 21, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Supposedly a free press. But we know how that has gone.

Liam on November 21, 2012 at 8:46 PM

Who will guard the guards?

predator on November 21, 2012 at 8:41 PM

At least the Roman Emperors had to be mindful of the Praetorian Guard. Incompetent is one thing, but bat guano crazy wasn’t allowed to persist for long.

BobMbx on November 21, 2012 at 8:47 PM

*Happy ThanksGiving to my Southern Neighbours in Bars’N Stars-Land*:)
********************************************************************

canopfor on November 21, 2012 at 8:44 PM

There’s nothing like the sunny South. The roses are still blooming in my garden along with other happy flowers.

Happy Thanksgiving, all!

Cody1991 on November 21, 2012 at 8:49 PM

*Happy ThanksGiving to my Southern Neighbours in Bars’N Stars-Land*:)
********************************************************************

canopfor on November 21, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Back at ‘ya canopfor…!

Seven Percent Solution on November 21, 2012 at 8:51 PM

how would the press react if John Beohner didn’t pay the hookers from his Caribbean 0rgies?

Slade73 on November 21, 2012 at 8:55 PM

When people are being fined and there is no exchange functioning……..there will be repercussions.

CoffeeLover on November 21, 2012 at 7:54 PM

You’re right, Bush will be blamed.

Alabama Infidel on November 21, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Oh Happy Thanksgiving to one and all!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAIbwodgoU8

Scrumpy on November 21, 2012 at 8:57 PM

back later folks :-)…

Scrumpy on November 21, 2012 at 8:57 PM

canopfor on November 21, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Back at ‘ya canopfor…!

Seven Percent Solution on November 21, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Seven Percent Solution:Thank-You 7%,…

…*****Clink*****:)

canopfor on November 21, 2012 at 8:59 PM

Boehner has done everything to isolate the conservatives in the House so he can cut deals with the socialists.

The GOP will betray you

True_King on November 21, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Well Mr. Boehner you could negotiate Obamacare away in exchange for another one time debt ceiling raise.

Or you could try just not funding it.

Those are actual actions you can take, if you are serious.

ajacksonian on November 21, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Ok, but how about mentioning that the law as it stands is currently illegal and unconstitutional, and that it needs to go back to the House for review(and revision) since it was not passed as a tax, but WAS CHANGED to a tax, and all tax bills MUST begin in the House Of Representatives.

Don’t forget that.

Sterling Holobyte on November 21, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Thanks for checking in, Congressman Squishy-man. I’ve utter confidence that you and Senator Squish McConnell will stand up and **harrumph** at the super-unacceptableness of ObamaCare.
And then, you’ll cave. Again. As usual.

Boehner and McConnell: Country Club Republicans, with neither the focus nor relentless drive of their liberal opponents. THESE are the wartime consiglieres that we have to fight with?

orangemtl on November 21, 2012 at 8:13 PM

+1000

Right Mover on November 21, 2012 at 9:12 PM

how would the press react if John Beohner didn’t pay the hookers from his Caribbean 0rgies?

Slade73 on November 21, 2012 at 8:55 PM

I doubt they’d have to treat him any differently.

CurtZHP on November 21, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Ok, but how about mentioning that the law as it stands is currently illegal and unconstitutional, and that it needs to go back to the House for review(and revision) since it was not passed as a tax, but WAS CHANGED to a tax, and all tax bills MUST begin in the House Of Representatives.

Don’t forget that.

Sterling Holobyte on November 21, 2012 at 9:10 PM

yawn. they attached the senate obamacare bill to an unrelated but passed house bill. the procedural stuff will get us nowhere… the courts will get us nowhere… and the house has had plenty of opportunity to defund obamacare, shutdown the government, not raise the debt ceiling, force serious concessions….

yeah. I think obamacare is here to stay, better get used to it and just hope it doesnt effect you as badly as you fear it might.

Timin203 on November 21, 2012 at 9:17 PM

Boehner: Hold up, the ObamaCare fight isn’t over yet

Translation: I’m not done smashing my face into 0bama’s fist. I got him on the ropes!!

CurtZHP on November 21, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Boehner and McConnell: Country Club Republicans
orangemtl on November 21, 2012 at 8:13 PM

That’s an insult to country club Republicans everywhere. I’ve known many with greater steel and street-smarts than those two ineffectual frumps. They’re a new breed of loser altogether.

rrpjr on November 21, 2012 at 9:27 PM

predator on November 21, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Seconded!!

Scrumpy on November 21, 2012 at 8:01 PM

…I’ve been waiting for that to happen for two years now…

KOOLAID2 on November 21, 2012 at 9:30 PM

I can’t remember where I read it, but I heard that if a state refuses to set up an exchange, the feds will come in and do it. But here’s where I’m hopeful:

1) The law did not appropriate any funds to set up the exchanges

2) The infrastructure is so complex for setting up the exchanges that it could take 2 to 3 years- for just one state.

This is where we need to do everything to drag our feet on implementing this until the 2014 midterms. Cloward Pivens uses chaos to destroy. Let’s Cloward Pivens this clusterfark.

parteagirl on November 21, 2012 at 9:40 PM

The slow boil… Boehner is just making you feel a bit more comfortable for a little while, letting you imagine the water is not getting hotter. Anyone who thinks him and the Republicans in office today have your backs is delusional or a progressive. I am sure there are some that are just fine and dandy, but since these guys actually voted for Boehner to be the Speaker pretty much argues at least half are not.

astonerii on November 21, 2012 at 9:41 PM

ObamaTax is blasphemy and the devil is Paul Krugman

Slade73 on November 21, 2012 at 9:49 PM

If I could install anyone as speaker John Boehner would be 534th on the list. Some botoxed hag from San Francisco would be last.

Slade73 on November 21, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Didn’t I read somewhere recently that the Speaker does not have to be a member of the House?

West for speaker.

davidk on November 21, 2012 at 9:51 PM

The Constitution does not require that the Speaker be an elected Member of Congress, but no non-member has ever been elected to the office. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaker_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives

Col. West for speaker!

davidk on November 21, 2012 at 9:54 PM

The states would be enforcing a federal law and federal regulations, with very little room for independent judgment. …


Didn’t the Obama administration sue one of the states that was trying to enforce federal law? Immigration law? Isn’t this contradictory?

hopeful on November 21, 2012 at 9:55 PM

The states would be enforcing a federal law and federal regulations, with very little room for independent judgment. …

Didn’t the Obama administration sue one of the states that was trying to enforce federal law? Immigration law? Isn’t this contradictory?

hopeful on November 21, 2012 at 9:56 PM

I think I read somewhere the other day that Mitch is being primaried. (Townhall, maybe?)

predator on November 21, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Yep. By Ashley Judd. Barf.

parteagirl on November 21, 2012 at 9:57 PM

Oh Happy Thanksgiving to one and all!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAIbwodgoU8

Scrumpy on November 21, 2012 at 8:57 PM

.
Awwwwwwwww . . . . . . that was sooo darling. : )

listens2glenn on November 21, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Santorum for Speaker! – Ed Morissey

Slade73 on November 21, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Yep. By Ashley Judd. Barf.

parteagirl on November 21, 2012 at 9:57 PM

She’s going to run as a Dim. Somebody else is going to primary him. I think they’re using some of Paul’s campaign folks.

Yep. She is running as a Dim.

I can’t find the story about his primary challenger, but I’m sure I read it somewhere.

predator on November 21, 2012 at 10:02 PM

I think I read somewhere the other day that Mitch is being primaried. (Townhall, maybe?)

predator on November 21, 2012 at 8:42 PM

.
Yep. By Ashley Judd. Barf.

parteagirl on November 21, 2012 at 9:57 PM

.
Her last name is Barf ?

listens2glenn on November 21, 2012 at 10:05 PM

I stand corrected. I just found an article that says McConnell has hired Ron Paul’s campaign director as he fears a Tea Party challenge.

predator on November 21, 2012 at 10:07 PM

Her last name is Barf ?

listens2glenn on November 21, 2012 at 10:05 PM

It’s one of those hyphenated names: Judd-Barf.

predator on November 21, 2012 at 10:08 PM

By declining to build exchanges, the states would pass the burden and costs of the exchanges to the administration that sought this law. And it is far from clear that the administration could operate the exchanges on its own.

As long as Republicans hold the purse strings, the ‘government’ can’t afford it.

GarandFan on November 21, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Does anyone really believe this law is about health care? This law is all about making health care impossible to manage for insurance companies whose profits will be squeezed, as the government tells them they have to cover more people and cover more things and take in less money. It’s all about putting the insurance companies out of business and getting universal health care in. The Democrats, since they are so duplicitous and didn’t want to tell people that was the goal, had to take this circuitous route to get it done, but get it done they will.

It’s going to be a disaster but the media will cover up the disaster as long as they can. Most certainly, Obama will be out of office before it happens and, perhaps, a Republican will be in there and the press will be blaming that president for the disaster.

The best chance at repeal has come and gone. The electorate, who keep telling pollsters they don’t like Obamacare, just re-elected him and kept the Senate in Democrat hands. Either they’re really stupid, lying to pollsters, or just didn’t understand the consequences.

bflat879 on November 21, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Does anyone really believe this law is about health care?

bflat879 on November 21, 2012 at 10:21 PM

.
Not me.

I believe everything in the Progressive agenda is about THIS.

listens2glenn on November 21, 2012 at 10:32 PM

Yeah, he should still be fired.

Cylor on November 21, 2012 at 11:06 PM

they attached the senate obamacare bill to an unrelated but passed house bill. Timin203 on November 21, 2012 at 9:17 PM

But it wasn’t passed as a tax at the time.

the procedural stuff will get us nowhere…
Timin203 on November 21, 2012 at 9:17 PM

Hey, someone has to follow procedure. We know Obama won’t.

Sterling Holobyte on November 21, 2012 at 11:23 PM

ObamaCare is the most massive undertaking in the history of the world. Bigger than Social Security. Bigger than Medicare. Bigger than the IRS. Bigger than the Normandy Invasion.

An undertaking by the same government that can’t deliver bottled water to New Jersey.

I’m predicting epic fail. At our expense.

Curtiss on November 21, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Obamacare essentially adds 38 million, which is more than the entire population of Canada, to the existing American health system. It doesn’t add any doctors, nurses or facilities. Does anyone think your healthcare is isn’t going to suffer? Make the Dems OWN IT!

monalisa on November 21, 2012 at 11:30 PM

If anyone thinks a little thing like the House of Representatives refusing to pass a bill funding Obamacare will deter this administration you haven’t been paying attention. The WH has plenty of money to spend – all the money that Ben can print – and little details like congressional authority or disapproval are mere speed bumps (and small ones at that).

jdp629 on November 21, 2012 at 11:46 PM

Slade73 on November 21, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Didn’t I read somewhere recently that the Speaker does not have to be a member of the House?

West for speaker.

davidk on November 21, 2012 at 9:51 PM

…a guy from Texas put in Newt…but no one seconded it!

KOOLAID2 on November 22, 2012 at 12:34 AM

What a bunch of sore losers and bitter clingers!

*First, ACA opponents lost the fight in Congress in early 2010.

*Then the Supreme Court led by conservative Chief Justice Roberts upheld essentially all of ACA including the individual mandate.

*Finally, President Obama easily won reelection 332-206 and the Democrats EXPANDED their majority in the Senate despite all the pre-election talk about ObamaCare being a huge “millstone” around the neck of Democrats everywhere.

Before the election, the Right was saying this was the last chance to overturn ObamaCare. And you guys lost. Big time.

Keep trying, though — you will lose. Once again.

mlindroo on November 22, 2012 at 3:56 AM

He’s just teasing the right. There is no way he will stand up on this issue — or any other issue for that matter. Him or any of them; they’ve all got their tickets on the gravy train and the peasants can go screw ourselves.

clippermiami on November 22, 2012 at 7:20 AM

We still don’t get it, hoping that a political or economic messiah will somehow cause good to happen when we’ve tossed out the source of all goodness–God–the only one who gives us our rights.

Our problem is now going to morph into who can give the most illicit candy to the screaming crowds. We fail to understand and stand firm on the difference between need and want. Want is anti-communal in its nature, and finds many forms, many destructive to sound societies: including lust, envy, anti-any tax idolatry, racism and false charges of racism, free lunches, legalizing evil things like gay marriages and abortion and forcing Churches to comply.

Need, must be addressed by society, but can also be the result of selfish, irresponsible living, and without God-centered morality as the basis for law and behavior, we can only end up where we’ve broguht ourselves.

So the GOP and democracy(by any name) have both found themselves in the dustbin of history, mere economic lessons beaten by a Godless culture as we now ponder the shear folly of doubling down on free poisoned candy.

Don L on November 22, 2012 at 8:29 AM

Calling it Obamacare was a big mistake. It sounds like Obama cares and we reinforced that every time we said it. No wonder he said he liked the plan being called that. My son and his girl friend have both been to meetings at their place of employment advising them that if they don’t have insurance, that info will be reported to the feds. The word is getting out about the ‘requirements’ and how much it is going to cost.

Kissmygrits on November 22, 2012 at 8:36 AM

I’m still looking at it, but it appears that the key to destroying Obamacare is for the states to decline to set up an exchange in their state. I might be wrong, but I think that declining to set one up is a big win for each state that declines.

I’m also looking a little at this FISCAL CLIFF stuff. Anytime the Dems try to make something look like a crisis or emergency, the fix for it usually involves more spending, more taxes and more loss of freedom. For example, it looks like those Bush tax cuts weren’t only for the EVIL RICH after all. Hahaha!

I don’t think that Boehner is stupid. I think that he realizes that the Repubs have a strong hand with this fiscal cliff crap. We’ll see how it plays out.

justltl on November 22, 2012 at 8:47 AM

Maybe someone a lot smarter than me, such as one of the article writers on here, could look behind the smoke screen of this fiscal cliff crisis. Maybe someone’s already done that.
Anyways, all I’m saying is that Obama and his fellow leftist goons “never let a crisis go to waste”, so I’m suspicious.

justltl on November 22, 2012 at 8:56 AM

BTW, has anyone seen the lovely Big Mooch around?
She’s been awfully inconspicuous lately.

justltl on November 22, 2012 at 9:00 AM

House Republicans should pass a bill deeming that the bill deeming the ACA was passed was wrong. That should put things back in the courts for a couple of years – and who knows, it might actually be a valid ploy.

PersonFromPorlock on November 22, 2012 at 9:10 AM

I’m very confident that career p*ssy John Beohner will save us

Slade73 on November 21, 2012 at 7:52 PM

Attacking our party’s moderates is what gave us a 55 seat Democratic Senate majority that could easily have been about 50 50 with available viable candidates. Denouncing Romney, Boehner, McCain, Linsey Graham, George W. and Jeb Bush etc. for trying to make the system work within the constraints of a hostile press, a hostile academia, a public misinformed by a partisan disfunctional education system and proper respect for the law as it is rather than as we would like it to be is short sighted. If we all hoist the Jolly Roger and call for rebellion we will be crushed as the middle will align against us.

We have to do the education of those around us so that a new Reagan can succeed rather than shoot the pragmatists trying to slow the progressive left leviathon while holding a rather weak hand.

KW64 on November 22, 2012 at 9:50 AM

We have to do the education of those around us so that a new Reagan can succeed rather than shoot the pragmatists

You don’t get it. They’re not “pragmatists.” They’re fuc*ing cowards and colluders. And the Reagan era, when there was an actual fabric of political coexistence within which pragmatism had some meaning, is gone forever. We’re at war. It’s a war as clear and coldly brutal as any we’ve faced in our history. Figure it out.

rrpjr on November 22, 2012 at 10:51 AM

If we’re serious about getting our economy moving again, solving our debt and restoring prosperity for American families, we need to repeal Obamacare and enact common-sense, step-by-step reforms that start with lowering the cost of health care.

blah,blah,blah…..

labrat on November 22, 2012 at 11:35 AM

This scumbag, Lies like a Rug! Boehner is a sell out. He’s trying to do his best to give Benedict Obama, whatever he wants. These scumbags are hiding the Benghazi hearings. They are working with the Butcher of Benghazi, trying to distract from the Arming of Al-Qaeda(TREASON) and the Murder of the Benghazi 4, with the orders to “Stand Down”! They will sweep that under the rug, just like they did with Fast & Furious! Instead of saying no, this animal will fund the ObamaTaxCare betrayal, first chance he gets! Fact is, these betraying bastards, knew what was going on with the muslim brotherhood and are helping the Traitor-in-chief, to betray the U.S.

http://www.paratisiusa.blogspot.com

God Bless America!

paratisi on November 22, 2012 at 11:42 AM

paratisi on November 22, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Good website. You’re right on target.

Happy Thanksgiving.

rrpjr on November 22, 2012 at 12:17 PM

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