Gingrich: The GOP misunderstood the electorate in 2012

posted at 1:06 pm on November 20, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Via Eliana Johnson at NRO, this clip from The View of Newt Gingrich explaining the Republican losses this month has an oddly confessional quality about it.  Perhaps that’s amplified by the affirmative interjections from the hosts of the show, but it might also be that Gingrich offers his critiques on a show as hostile to Gingrich’s politics as The View, too.  But for Gingrich, that’s a large part of his point — that Republicans, including Mitt Romney, didn’t go to where the voters lived and entertained themselves, and so became out of touch with the direction of the nation:

Eliana also reports on remarks made to a friendlier audience, the “Restoration Weekend” staged by David Horowitz this weekend in West Palm Beach:

Giving a nod to legendary UCLA basketball coach John Wooden, Gingrich said, “When we won in ’94, we followed Wooden’s theory of a full-court press.” He contrasted that strategy to the Republican Party’s targeted focus on swing states and counties this time around, and argued for a more expansive approach. “We need to take the Left on everywhere they exist,” he said. Gingrich’s remarks came Saturday afternoon in an address to the crowd assembled at David Horowitz’s “Restoration Weekend” in West Palm Beach.

Gingrich is critical of Governor Romney’s failure to engage with the media personalities who shape and influence popular culture. He noted disapprovingly that Romney turned down invitations to appear on The Colbert ReportThe View and Nickelodeon’s Kids Pick the President, while President Obama was a guest on all three. The former house speaker appeared on The View with his wife, Callista, last week, but was doggedly critical of the mainstream media as a candidate, slamming CNN’s John King for peddling “trash,” blasting the “elite media,” and lamenting their “gotcha questions.” …

And Gingrich, at 69, said he is willing to learn. He declared of his own predictions for the year’s election, “I was dead wrong.” Indeed, Gingrich predicted we’d see Romney elected with over 300 electoral votes and that Republicans would take the Senate. “All through my career, I believed this was a center right country,” he said. “Now, I believe at best, it’s a centrist country with a dominant Left.”

Gingrich announced that he was building a staff to sift through all of the data from this election to determine what the GOP and conservatives can learn from the loss, and to pitch their message more effectively.  This mission suits Gingrich almost perfectly, especially with his own aspirations for the presidency all but discharged now.  Not everyone’s convinced that Gingrich’s aspirations have been fully discharged, though, as one of the hosts makes clear as the clip ends: “So when you run in 2016 …”


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astonerii on November 20, 2012 at 1:52 PM

Romney was a disaster. It was like he was handpicked by Obama out of central casting as the perfect caricature of a “rich 1% Wall street guy”

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Ham wasn’t going to win. Ham was a better choice than Obama. No one here ever thought Ham was a shoo-in.

kim roy on November 20, 2012 at 1:59 PM

What?! MKH is running for office?!! I thought she’s under 35…

Archivarix on November 20, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Only thing they favored Obama on? “He cares more about people like me”

Bottom line is this loss is 95% on Romney.

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 1:59 PM

So you’re saying that successful people should never run for president?

jimver on November 20, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Then after the nomination was done, it became a house of filth filled with predominantly support Romney or you are a F&CKING TRAITOR THAT SHOULD BE SLAIN WHERE YOU STAND area in the neighborhood of 75%.

That better for you?

astonerii on November 20, 2012 at 1:42 PM

Are you suggesting that after Romney was officially nominated we should have continued aggressively lobbying for our favorite Republican nominee as if the formal nomination never happened?

DaveDief on November 20, 2012 at 2:05 PM

I was a Gingrich supporter, too, but I knew that it would have been an ugly, hard slog with little chance of success.

kim roy on November 20, 2012 at 1:52 PM

Of course it would have been a fight. We must fight! Republicans play defense. We need to be as brutal, and underhanded as the dems!

portlandon on November 20, 2012 at 1:56 PM

I don’t disagree, I just don’t think that any of them have the stomach for it. Look at Gingrich, who is probably the crankiest of them all, going onto the view and the Sunday shows looking for approval. Would he have done something like this in the middle of the election? None of us could say so for sure either way.

The only honest fighter that wouldn’t have given up or pander didn’t run.

kim roy on November 20, 2012 at 2:05 PM

I don’t argue with everything you say mnjg. It’s just that we have to first realistically assess what’s going on and that includes the fact that much (I’m afraid it’s quickly heading to a majority) of wealthy voters are supporting the enemy. I do think that to reverse this and to get more Latinos we have to take back schools and media . That’s where their heads get filled with so much crap.

avgjo on November 20, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Rick Perry is the only one who would have had a shot, but after his debate performances I just don’t know.

Daemonocracy on November 20, 2012 at 2:01 PM

If Perry had sailed through the debates, it would have been interesting. He had so many of the right messages, and really serious experience to back up his views about limited government. Wouldn’t it have been great to see him in a debate with Barack Obama, talking aboout a real vision of a college degree that costs $10,000, while all Obama can counter with is “we made college loans a little cheaper?”

rockmom on November 20, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Fortunately for me, I will do fine with Obama as president unless he starts a shooting war against conservatives.

astonerii on November 20, 2012 at 1:35 PM

..can you explain that remark more fully. I am not being catty; I sincerely want to understand your thought processes.

The War Planner on November 20, 2012 at 1:59 PM

I work hard, I will have a job, even if it is selling grapefruit on a street corner. Obama has been buying up (well all the big nations have been) lots of gear for handling unrest in their home states.

1.6 billion rounds of ammo, including hollow point (can only be used for target practice (too expensive for that) and shooting American Citizens) for the DHS, bullet resistant road block kiosks, bidding on internment camps out in remote areas of the US, training manuals on how to handle insurrection at home here, having the DHS write that conservative groups are terrorists in waiting…

astonerii on November 20, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Romney was a disaster. It was like he was handpicked by Obama out of central casting as the perfect caricature of a “rich 1% Wall street guy”

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Cain: Womanizer!

Gingrich: Old, white, angry, anti Kenyan womanizer!

Bachmann: HPV/retardation!

Santorum: Wants to kill gays!

Perry: Texan hick who writes the N word on rocks!!!

Come on, the left tears apart ANYONE.

blatantblue on November 20, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Blech-a typical issues laden teabagger. Did you get that from your “make me straight jesus” newsletter?

tommyhawk on November 20, 2012 at 1:55 PM

You are so lucky to belong to a political party in which the bar is so low there is no one who couldn’t get over it.

Night Owl on November 20, 2012 at 2:08 PM

People here are fooling themselves into thinking the others in our original batch of candidates would have fared far better. I understand that the idea might be in some ways comforting, but it isn’t reality based.

blatantblue on November 20, 2012 at 2:09 PM

If Perry had sailed through the debates, it would have been interesting. He had so many of the right messages, and really serious experience to back up his views about limited government. Wouldn’t it have been great to see him in a debate with Barack Obama, talking aboout a real vision of a college degree that costs $10,000, while all Obama can counter with is “we made college loans a little cheaper?”

rockmom on November 20, 2012 at 2:05 PM

The only questions Perry would receive in the debate would be “was it your Texan traditions preventing you from painting over that stone, or you just hate blacks personally”?

Nobody could win. The Dems have perfected the art of character assassination to such a degree that people would be throwing rocks at Jesus Christ himself after a month of him running on a Republican ticket. Until conservatives regain at least partial control over media and public schools, their chance of a nationwide is about as big as that of unseating Vladimir Putin.

Archivarix on November 20, 2012 at 2:10 PM

I find Gingrich’s defeatist attitude amusing and ironic…

Daemonocracy on November 20, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Newt, who says Mitt should have done a better job trying to sell himself to a wider audience, is the defeatist? What about his attitude screams ‘pessimism’?

If Newt’s a defeatist, what does that make those who keep excusing Mitt’s loss by repeating, “You can’t beat Santa!”?

Anti-Control on November 20, 2012 at 2:10 PM

mnjg on November 20, 2012 at 2:00 PM

The white vote as share of the population is decreasing. In 20 years, you will need to get darn near 75% of it to stay viable. That strategy is suicide.

Asians are a far more natural GOP constituency and the fastest growing FROM(67% for Bush in 2004) TO:(72% Obama in 2012)

Hispanics are not one group, we share different interests. Cubans like me don’t have a lot in common with Mexicans and vice versa.

Romney really under performed among Cubans like me in Miami Dade, even under performing McCain by 22%.

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Are you suggesting that after Romney was officially nominated we should have continued aggressively lobbying for our favorite Republican nominee as if the formal nomination never happened?

DaveDief on November 20, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Not at all. We should have withheld all support for Romney and writing him letters/emails telling him/his campaign officials what he needed to do to get our support. As I did multiple times.

Instead we were told to shut the f&ck up, stand the hell down, and get in the god damned line, and smile while we are there.

astonerii on November 20, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Gingrich: The GOP misunderstood the electorate in 2012

Yeah, we thought they cared about the future of the country more than next week’s food stamps . . .

PastorJon on November 20, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Then after the nomination was done, it became a house of filth filled with predominantly support Romney or you are a F&CKING TRAITOR THAT SHOULD BE SLAIN WHERE YOU STAND area in the neighborhood of 75%.

That better for you?

astonerii on November 20, 2012 at 1:42 PM

Are you suggesting that after Romney was officially nominated we should have continued aggressively lobbying for our favorite Republican nominee as if the formal nomination never happened?

DaveDief on November 20, 2012 at 2:05 PM

That’s about it. Nevermind taking numbers, doing the work at hand to defeat Obama and then afterwards remembering that these idiots foisted another moderate and doing the work to ensure it never happens again. In the middle of a primary/election is not the time to do that.

But don’t try to tell them that. It takes away the opportunity to have a tantrum.

kim roy on November 20, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Romney was a disaster. It was like he was handpicked by Obama out of central casting as the perfect caricature of a “rich 1% Wall street guy”

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 2:03 PM

He wasn’t handpicked, but the Obama team knew he was 98% likely to be the nominee, and planned accordingly including ginning up the Occupy Wall Street protests to get the “1% vs. 99%” meme into the lexicon, and getting Warren Buffett to come out for higher taxes on the rich.

Highlighting Romney’s wealth was also one of the main ways Obama went to the young voters. Young voters are almost universally poor because they are just starting out in low-paying jobs, and most don’t know anyone as rich as Romney.

rockmom on November 20, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Gingrich still misunderstands. A better formulation:

This used to be a center-right country. Now it’s a stupid, bought off country with a hard-Left pop culture.

The Romney bashing is only a temporary salve. Sure, he could have done things better. That’s true of even winning candidates, moreso those that lose. But nothing Romney did could overcome the triple-whammy of Left wing media, tens of millions on the dole, and tens of millions more whose level of substantive engagement and critical thinking is, put charitably, superficial.

Our progressive, multi-culturalist, social-democratic chickens have come home to roost.

Math 2016.

SAMinVA on November 20, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Democrats know this too, and I think they must be a little scared about 2016 when their candidate will be either old Joe Biden, old Hillary Clinton, or boring Andrew Cuomo. That’s why they have their knives out for Rubio already, and they will be relentless. If they can paint Rubio early as nothing but an opportunist who won’t call out the crazies on the Right, he won’t even get a hearing in the popular culture.

Remember how savagely they jumped on Paul Ryan for “lying” in his RNC convention speech? It was imperative for them to keep him from becoming popular with young voters. “Lyin’ Ryan” became their mantra in their emails and social media.

rockmom on November 20, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Thats why it is vital for Rubio to define himself right now, and not wait until 2015 and 2016. Romney waited too long to define himself (and never shed the perception that Democrats inflicted upon him). And he did an awful job of defining himself because he was too modest.

I like how Rubio is doing GQ. He should be giving interviews to other magazines that men 18-35 read, like Esquire, etc.. Then he needs to start going on the View, Ellen, etc.. Become a guy that women like, and he is golden.

I cannot stress enough how he should go on Leno, Kimmel, Daily Show, The View, etc..

He should talk about his kids, talk pop culture, talk politics. But he should avoid social issues. And if he does that, and defines himself as an average guy who is likable, and if he does that, Democrats will not have an answer in 2016 (especially since Obama will make democrats as toxic as Bush made Republicans).

milcus on November 20, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Cain: Womanizer!

Gingrich: Old, white, angry, anti Kenyan womanizer!

Bachmann: HPV/retardation!

Santorum: Wants to kill gays!

Perry: Texan hick who writes the N word on rocks!!!

Come on, the left tears apart ANYONE.

blatantblue on November 20, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Yep. We didn’t learn the lesson of 2008 and Palin and let them fester and control for another four years and then look surprised when *yet again* they control the narrative and our candidates.

Let’s face it. No one was electable. No one will be until we stop this idiocy.

kim roy on November 20, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Romney was a disaster. It was like he was handpicked by Obama out of central casting as the perfect caricature of a “rich 1% Wall street guy”

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 2:03 PM

.
What you are really saying is, Mitt lacked a sort of John Kerryish 1% charismatic appeal and electability…..right?

FlaMurph on November 20, 2012 at 2:13 PM

..can you explain that remark more fully. I am not being catty; I sincerely want to understand your thought processes.

The War Planner on November 20, 2012 at 1:59 PM

I can’t really speak for astonerii, but I can perhaps offer a little insight into this mode of thinking.

Even before this election, once it was clear the Republicans were either signing onto the Obama agenda or too weak to oppose it after 2010, a number of my friends began taking steps to try to ensure that politics effects them as little as possible. This includes purchases of farmland in an area far from urban centers, buying arms and ammo and canned goods, reducing reliance on electricity, and conversion of US dollars into gold and silver.

His view was that the country was effectively unsalvageable and that he was just going to take steps to see that in the future, regardless of what legislation was passed in Congress, that politics affected him and his family as little as possible, short of actual organized violence. He called this process “checking out.”

Another friend lamented that he didn’t have the financial resources to move to a country that was safer and more stable than the United States. Again, this was BEFORE 2012 when it became clear the Republicans were unwilling/unable to oppose the Obama agenda effectively.

Note that I live in a deep-blue state, to give you an idea of how deeply this line of thinking is beginning to permeate even in liberal utopias. I can’t imagine what it must be like in red states.

Doomberg on November 20, 2012 at 2:15 PM

blatantblue on November 20, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Looking at the what we had in the way of choices, you’re right. Most of those were non-starters. I think Perry could have done the best out of this group, because he would draw more Hispanics. In 2010, in TX he drew 47% of the Hispanic vote, Romney got 31% of the Hispanic vote in TX.

Romney’s under performed McCain by 4% among Hispanics. Just a little food for thought.

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Are you suggesting that after Romney was officially nominated we should have continued aggressively lobbying for our favorite Republican nominee as if the formal nomination never happened?

DaveDief on November 20, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Not at all. We should have withheld all support for Romney and writing him letters/emails telling him/his campaign officials what he needed to do to get our support. As I did multiple times.

Instead we were told to shut the f&ck up, stand the hell down, and get in the god damned line, and smile while we are there.

astonerii on November 20, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Lool, so now you are so delusional that you are convinced that Romney would have won if he had followed your precious advice :)…I thought you excel at selling grapefruits, but it looks like you are a campaign strategist now too :)…

jimver on November 20, 2012 at 2:17 PM

et’s face it. No one was electable. No one will be until we stop this idiocy.

kim roy on November 20, 2012 at 2:13 PM

What idiocy is that?

blatantblue on November 20, 2012 at 2:18 PM

rockmom on November 20, 2012 at 2:11 PM

That and also Romney’s lack of personality. Also his messaging and outreach was horrible.

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 2:18 PM

I think we can all overanalyze this election. The bottom line is it was going to be extrenmely hard to convince America to give the reins back to the GOP after what happened in 2006-2008. The brand was tranished, and there wasnl;t enough time between 2010 and 2012 for the new crop of untainted Republicans to be ready for a Presidential run. Mitt Romney ran as well as any Republican would have, and we didn’t permanently damage one of our young future leaders. And Romney’s debate performance probably saved the House majority.

rockmom on November 20, 2012 at 2:18 PM

The white vote as share of the population is decreasing. In 20 years, you will need to get darn near 75% of it to stay viable. That strategy is suicide.

Asians are a far more natural GOP constituency and the fastest growing FROM(67% for Bush in 2004) TO:(72% Obama in 2012)

Hispanics are not one group, we share different interests. Cubans like me don’t have a lot in common with Mexicans and vice versa.

Romney really under performed among Cubans like me in Miami Dade, even under performing McCain by 22%.

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 2:10 PM

20 years is a long time from now to worry about… However I agree that we must increase our share among Latinos… I am surprised that Romney underperformed among Cubans in Florida, maybe they were not happy that he did not pick Rubio as his VP… The minimum goal is to get at least 35% of the Latinos vote and 40% would be even better… How can we do this? Fortunately the Latinos vote have not yet reached the abyss of absolute Welfare dependency like the super majority of the black vote so there is is hope to at least work on getting the majority of the Latinos who do not want to be paying their taxes to the Welfare State…

mnjg on November 20, 2012 at 2:19 PM

Are you suggesting that after Romney was officially nominated we should have continued aggressively lobbying for our favorite Republican nominee as if the formal nomination never happened?

DaveDief on November 20, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Apparently, somebody said something mean to astonerii and he’s been in a snit about anybody he/she/it doesn’t like ever since.

It is tough beating an incumbent. Even tougher when you have some of your base throwing a temper tantrum because their guy didn’t win the primaries. Astonerii is one of the worst examples of that.

Happy Nomad on November 20, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Milcus on November 20, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Nailed it.

jimver on November 20, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Can anyone speculate as to why Newt drags his wife to this thing if she doesn’t even speak? Callista is just…weird

Liberty 5-3001 on November 20, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Romney got 60% of the white vote that turned out, but it sounds as if overall white turnout was pretty dismal compared to nonwhite turnout. So if that’s really true that’s the first issue that has to be addressed. I’m thinking that disaffected whites might have responded to a press the flesh populism, but I’m basing that hypothesis on decades-old voting patterns, not allowing for fundamental cultural change. Romney made a forlorn jab in a more populist direction when he flirted with Donald Trump, and when he went medieval (for him) on China, but obviously it wasn’t nearly enough.

Btw what McCain had that Romney didn’t were war hero credentials and Sarah Palin, so perhaps the GOP needs to be mindful of that traditionalist impulse, which although not incompatible with limited government is less small government than old school nationalist. Certainly anyone aiming to reform entitlements is going to have to appeal to something beyond narrow or even collective economic self-interest.

Seth Halpern on November 20, 2012 at 2:21 PM

Totally agree. Conservatives have lost the culture war and the fiscal sanity war at this point. It is going to be an unbelievable uphill climb that I’m not even sure would be successful. However, as you suggest, it ALL begins with the media and public schools.

KickandSwimMom on November 20, 2012 at 2:02 PM

The schools are yet another example of institutionalized liberalism perverting the minds of the young and low information masses.

Republicans need to start pushing for school choice harder than they ever have before, specifically in urban areas where they can accuse any white liberal who opposes it of being racist. We need to get dirty and play their game by slamming these liberals for confining minority kids to failing public schools and aborting their future generations at planned parenthood for profit. We need non white spokesman to do this of course, but it has to be done.

I have no doubt in my mind that a large number of white liberals are in fact racist and the moment blacks or hispanics start voting “wrong”, they’ll sneer at them for not knowing any better.

Daemonocracy on November 20, 2012 at 2:23 PM

If you look at elections over the last 60 years (and even longer), the more likable of the 2 candidates almost always wins. So, Republicans need to run someone likable milcus on November 20, 2012 at 1:53 PM

I nominate Meagan Kelly.

Akzed on November 20, 2012 at 2:23 PM

jimver on November 20, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Way to miss my point by a mile.. Romney was a horrible candidate not because he was successful in business, but because he couldn’t articulate a better message to reach people.

This focus on “small business owners” for example, you realize MOST people 98% are EMPLOYEES and have no interest in starting a small business. So all this talk about regulations, and why we shouldn’t raise taxes, means little to them.

And bottom line: 8 of the 10 richest counties voted for Obama, so why are we so obsessed with protecting them? This perception hurts. Same with hollywood, why don’t we raise taxes on films to 40%, and cut tax breaks for them?

F— them most of them are straight communists.

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Democrats know this too, and I think they must be a little scared about 2016 when their candidate will be either old Joe Biden, old Hillary Clinton, or boring Andrew Cuomo. That’s why they have their knives out for Rubio already, and they will be relentless.

rockmom on November 20, 2012 at 2:02 PM

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Yeah they have to be worried that they’ll have to vote for the FIRST WOMAN PRESIDENT to follow on the heels of the first Black President.

Clinton 45.

To the desert for awhile.
Stay thirsty my friends.

FlaMurph on November 20, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Note that I live in a deep-blue state, to give you an idea of how deeply this line of thinking is beginning to permeate even in liberal utopias. I can’t imagine what it must be like in red states.

Doomberg on November 20, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Out in Jesusland, people are coping because they have faith in the Lord and not in politicians. Expect nothing, and you will never be disappointed.

rockmom on November 20, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Looking at the what we had in the way of choices, you’re right. Most of those were non-starters. I think Perry could have done the best out of this group, because he would draw more Hispanics. In 2010, in TX he drew 47% of the Hispanic vote, Romney got 31% of the Hispanic vote in TX.

Romney’s under performed McCain by 4% among Hispanics. Just a little food for thought.

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 2:16 PM

A Perry/Rubio ticket in 2016 would be very powerful… Perry should begin training on his debate skills now if he wants to run again and his record as a governor of Texas is an excellent and powerful resume… Rubio the young, handsome, and conservative Latino would be great to get out more of the Latino vote to our side and Perry himself is appealing to many Latinos because of him being the governor of Texas and has a huge Latino support there…

mnjg on November 20, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Not at all. We should have withheld all support for Romney and writing him letters/emails telling him/his campaign officials what he needed to do to get our support. As I did multiple times.

Instead we were told to shut the f&ck up, stand the hell down, and get in the god damned line, and smile while we are there.

astonerii on November 20, 2012 at 2:10 PM

I am trying to decide something in my mind about this election. If Romney had shown a more conservative spine as you suggest, would it have made a significant enough difference in the popular vote to afford him a victory? If yes this would suggest two possiblities. There is a subset of voters who saw no difference between Romney and Obama so they just pulled the lever for the incumbent. And/or there is a group of voters of sufficient election-changing numbers who decided not to vote because Romney is not conservatie enough for them.

Although the pundits say that America is a center right country I have serious doubts this is really the case based on this past election.

DaveDief on November 20, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Yeah they have to be worried that they’ll have to vote for the FIRST WOMAN PRESIDENT to follow on the heels of the first Black President.

Clinton 45.

To the desert for awhile.
Stay thirsty my friends.

FlaMurph on November 20, 2012 at 2:23 PM

She will be 72 years old in 2016. And 8 years removed from the Senate, where she didn’t accomplish anything anyway, and with the stench of Benghazi all over her.

Liberals should be prepared, America has a very short attention span now and you will be yesterday’s news one day soon. The Next Big Thing is as likely to be a Republican as a Democrat.

rockmom on November 20, 2012 at 2:27 PM

et’s face it. No one was electable. No one will be until we stop this idiocy.

kim roy on November 20, 2012 at 2:13 PM

What idiocy is that?

blatantblue on November 20, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Media control, educational control.

Anything we say, they say it three times louder. They have created an educational and celebutard culture that feeds into it.

We know this, yet we just sail along buying HBO and supporting Hollywood (movies and TV) and buying things from companies that take away our voices.

kim roy on November 20, 2012 at 2:27 PM

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Asians are a far more natural GOP constituency and the fastest growing FROM(67% for Bush in 2004) TO:(72% Obama in 2012)

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 2:10 PM

That would be the conventional wisdom wouldn’t it…I was shocked too to see the percentage of Asians who voted for Obama. But not so fast in calling them GOP natural constituency though, or not anymore anyways…, I live in Cali, home of a large Asian population, for whatever reasons they love leftist policies, they fill lots of admin positions, city, county and state levels, mostly as appointees, or elected officials of the left…I still have a hard time understanding this, but how things are…

jimver on November 20, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 2:16 PM

I can see where you’re going with Perry vis a vis Hispanics. I wonder how that would have played out after a few months of left wing sliming, though.

I think there is a lot of delusion on the right these days….

..That the country is left of center…

..The GOP is dead, the conservative movement is dead…

..We need amnesty to win..

..We have been relegated to the wilderness for decades to come..

It’s all horsesh1t.

We won indies by a few points. 60 million of us came out for Romney.
Obama LOST 10 million votes from his total in 2012. We own the governorships. We own the House. Democrats have been destroyed in the House, and they barely hold the Senate.

We are not over. I really wish people would take a shot of vodka, smile, and realize that while we are in a bad place, there is a way out.

The solution is simple: language. We need a complete restructuring of our rhetoric, and I don’t mean as it relates to principle.

Instead of going on about job creators as it relates to the fiscal cliff (which people will just paint as us defending the rich), ask how a punitive, 1.6 trillion dollar hike fixes a 16 trillion dollar deficit. Think you’ll ever see a GOP member on Fox News Sunday press his Democrat counterpart on a very effective point like that?

blatantblue on November 20, 2012 at 2:28 PM

jimver on November 20, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Asians aren’t a religious community. They aren’t a group that really values the notion of the individual, either.

blatantblue on November 20, 2012 at 2:30 PM

Mitt Romney ran as well as any Republican would have, and we didn’t permanently damage one of our young future leaders. And Romney’s debate performance probably saved the House majority.

rockmom on November 20, 2012 at 2:18 PM

One of Romney’s assets was we didn’t get dragged into a debate on social issues the way we would with Rick Santorum. If you thought the mythical war on women was bad, try getting around Santorum and the Terri Shiavo case.

Where I think Romney’s campaign faltered was in not engaging on anything but economic issues. Apparently, the moochers needed assurances that they wouldn’t get coal in their stockings with a Romney presidency. It might have also helped with a bunch of so-called conservatives that got ticked off that their guy didn’t win the primaries. Anybody who thinks that there was no difference between Romney and the rat-eared wonder will have four years to realize just how stupid and uninformed they were.

Happy Nomad on November 20, 2012 at 2:30 PM

Romney was a disaster. It was like he was handpicked by Obama out of central casting as the perfect caricature of a “rich 1% Wall street guy”

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Every nominee would have been trashed. The ONLY thing they had on Romney is white 1% guy. All the rest had pretty extreme statements, ethic questions, etc.

Romney fell into the same trap that GOP candidates keep falling into, the belief that the media will start talking about the bad things about their opponent eventually.

We need to start advertising like this: loud about conservative values and what the accomplish, and just as loud about how destructive the other guy is.

I’d be willing to bet a majority of people have no idea what Fast and Furious really is, what’s going on with the Benghazi cover up, Obama’s past and future plans that are closing 60% of the coal plants that produce 42% of our electricity. And that’s not even touching telling Medvedev to tell Putin Obama will have more flexibility after his “last election.” There were many more damaging things in Obamacare that never came up.

Part of that is the water carrying media would try to destroy a candidate over doing that, but you CAN push past it, especially with the war chest Romney had.

You take the GOP candidate trying to stay as “civil” as possible, a treasonous MSM covering for and promoting the Dem, suppression of the military vote, DOJ injunctions against any attempts to limit fraud, “malfunctioning” voting machines owned by a man wanted in three countries for currency and election manipulation, and a huge dependent class . . . No GOP candidate had a chance.

Conservative commentators often talk about having to win outside the margin of fraud to actually win. That margin was huge this time. 330,000 votes in four states was all it took.

Some people want to tell the “let it burn” crowd to keep fighting within the system and not give up. But when bullies at polling places are set free, very easy to reach voter ID laws are challenged and suspended, military ballots never reach overseas troops, Dems can bus people from other states to vote for the dead and absent . . . what system is there?

We have a vastly outnumbered small chorous of voices in DC (the Jim DeMint, Paul Ryan, etc crowd) trying to pull us back, while the rest either want to grab even more power (dems), or lack the spine to fight (Boehner et al) and be called names in the media.

In the congressional race in my district the Dem is facing several counts of elections law violations. He was the incumbent, and there were ads by his opponent about his violations, but the two major media markets that might have reported his law breaking are liberal bastions and didn’t report on it. He won with almost 60% of the vote. He was openly and brazenly crooked, broke the law, and the media wanted the Dem so bad they ignored it.

PastorJon on November 20, 2012 at 2:33 PM

20 years is a long time from now to worry about… However I agree that we must increase our share among Latinos… I am surprised that Romney underperformed among Cubans in Florida, maybe they were not happy that he did not pick Rubio as his VP… The minimum goal is to get at least 35% of the Latinos vote and 40% would be even better… How can we do this? Fortunately the Latinos vote have not yet reached the abyss of absolute Welfare dependency like the super majority of the black vote so there is is hope to at least work on getting the majority of the Latinos who do not want to be paying their taxes to the Welfare State…

mnjg on November 20, 2012 at 2:19 PM

You have to increase share among Asians too and that should be easy as they voted almost 70% for Bush while turning around and going 77% Obama.

As I said before, I’m part Cuban part Trinidadian. American born blacks are gone to Democrats for the foreseeable future, but immigrant blacks, like Trinidadians, Barbadians are far more in line with the GOP then you think. And there is a very popular current FL Lt. gov Jennifer Carroll (Trinidadian) who could have really helped bring the small pocket of black immigrants to the GOP.

Romney didn’t lose Cubans because he didn’t pick Rubio, he lost them for the same reason he couldn’t reach more working class whites. Big part of Cubans are blue collar workers.

And I care about 20 years from now, I’ll be in my 40s. And we can’t let the problem grow and become entrenched, because then the GOP will go extinct.

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 2:34 PM

If Perry had sailed through the debates, it would have been interesting. He had so many of the right messages, and really serious experience to back up his views about limited government. Wouldn’t it have been great to see him in a debate with Barack Obama, talking aboout a real vision of a college degree that costs $10,000, while all Obama can counter with is “we made college loans a little cheaper?”

rockmom on November 20, 2012 at 2:05 PM

I know, I had such high hopes for Perry, but something was not right with him in the primary. It took me, and apparently everyone that knew him over the course of his long, long career by surprise. Damn shame.

Newt, who says Mitt should have done a better job trying to sell himself to a wider audience, is the defeatist? What about his attitude screams ‘pessimism’?

If Newt’s a defeatist, what does that make those who keep excusing Mitt’s loss by repeating, “You can’t beat Santa!”?

Anti-Control on November 20, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Yes Newt, the guy who back pedaled from his attacks on a biased media and fed the media narrative that we are not a center right nation, is the defeatist.

Now that all the numbers are in it is clear that Obama won the election because he was able to mobilize his vote. Romney’s GOTV effort not only failed, but his campaign allowed Obama to define him all summer long.

Sucking up to Joy Behar and Colbert just so they can ridicule you to your face or behind your back as you leave the set is not the way to win elections. It’s still a center right nation and will remain so until proven otherwise. Right now Obama is a cult of personality that we don’t have an answer for, but when he is not on the ticket our ideas still win.

Daemonocracy on November 20, 2012 at 2:35 PM

blatantblue on November 20, 2012 at 2:28 PM

You have to increase share among Asians too and that should be easy as they voted almost 70% for Bush while turning around and going 77% Obama.

As I said before, I’m part Cuban part Trinidadian. American born blacks are gone to Democrats for the foreseeable future, but immigrant blacks, like Trinidadians, Barbadians are far more in line with the GOP then you think. And there is a very popular current FL Lt. gov Jennifer Carroll (Trinidadian) who could have really helped bring the small pocket of black immigrants to the GOP.

Romney didn’t lose Cubans because he didn’t pick Rubio, he lost them for the same reason he couldn’t reach more working class whites. Big part of Cubans are blue collar workers.

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM

And those comments got switched. Sorry.

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 2:37 PM

The only connection with Newt and The View should be Newt’s condemnation of the program for it’s track record of dishonesty and stupidity. He should be telling people they should be embarrassed to watch it, not participating in it.

I don’t understand how you get from this:

“All through my career, I believed this was a center right country,” he said. “Now, I believe at best, it’s a centrist country with a dominant Left.”

– to politely chatting on a couch with the very people that actively war with your ideas and daydream of all your ideas dying.

Axe on November 20, 2012 at 2:37 PM

And bottom line: 8 of the 10 richest counties voted for Obama, so why are we so obsessed with protecting them? This perception hurts. Same with hollywood, why don’t we raise taxes on films to 40%, and cut tax breaks for them?

F— them most of them are straight communists.

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 2:23 P

agree with you about Hollywood. But here’s where you are wrong, the Hollywood created, elected and re-elected Obama, even if the taxes go higher for the rich, sure they (some of them anyways) will end up paying more as individuals, but that’s more or less irrelevant, besides they will move their residence and come up with every little trick in the book to pay less anyways, but Hollywood as a business entity, or well, mammoth, will forever receive tax credits from the Won and the left, they reinforce each other…that’s the idea and this is the type of system that we currently have in place, reward the bundlers, various interest groups, and the heavy contributors to one’s campaign…One thing I can guarantee you, and it’s here to stay for a long time, no matter how much the taxes go up for the rich, for businesses, etc, Hollywood won’t pay a penny more, watch the tax credits and waivers going their way…

jimver on November 20, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM

What’s it like being a racial sell out?

I kid.

I wish I knew how else to reach working class people. What else do they want?

Romney at the debates, remember when he spoke to that voter about the price of food, the price of fuel, the price of DAY TO DAY necessities?

I mean what else do we do? Tell them we’re going to make all of their problems go away?

blatantblue on November 20, 2012 at 2:41 PM

According to the exit polls people making over $ 250,000 voted 55% for Romney and 42% for Obama… In fact for all voters making more than $ 50,000 a year 53% voted for Romney and 45% voted for Obama… http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2012-exit-poll

Can you deny the absolute fact that wihtout the Parasite class the democrats cannot win a single national elections…

mnjg on November 20, 2012 at 1:38 PM

So anyone under $50,000 is a member of the “parasite class”? That’s a lot of people to be giving up on. The median combined household income in the U.S. is only $51,914.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

cam2 on November 20, 2012 at 2:41 PM

jimver on November 20, 2012 at 2:28 PM

I clarified this point in another post. To sum it up. Chinese and Taiwanese lean heavy D, they are also the ones you see entrenched in state gov in CA.

The GOP constituencies are Vietnamese, (Orange county), Koreans, and Japanese tend to break evenly.

Filipinos as I alluded to you should ask Malkin. They went 66% for Bush in 2004, and went 74% in 2008 Obama (don’t know for sure 2012 yet)

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 2:42 PM

Romney was a disaster.

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Oh please. Obama got 51%. If everyone who was so “concerned” about Romney had driven a couple people to the polls, obama would be packing right now. Instead they just sat back and heckled. These so-called conservatives were the disaster.

Ronnie on November 20, 2012 at 2:43 PM

Clinton 45.

You know its coming. She wins the next popularity contest, Nov 2016.
That all it is, tell yourselves policy and ideals matter, but its just about popularity anymore. Who’s cool, and who’s not.

Even if Romney had won, legislatively Commie Reid would be jamming it up his rump- and those old geezer lib SCOTI would cling to the bench until they passed.

Murdock, Akin, Mack, etc. etc.- This is the battleground.

Stop sending up guaranteed losers.

Nationally, Reps cannot compete with Liberal Media and Hollywood anymore. (A big Thank You, just the same, Mr. Eastwood)
We are country that desires to be entertained. And now our entertainment trashes conservative ideals. We dismiss it as liberal smear trash, America laps it up. Daily. Pimp with Limp ? who knew?

Battle for the Senate- its much more competitive for us.

FlaMurph on November 20, 2012 at 2:45 PM

jimver on November 20, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Asians aren’t a religious community. They aren’t a group that really values the notion of the individual, either.

blatantblue on November 20, 2012 at 2:30 PM

That’s the closest explanation I could come up with myself. They like the collectivist approach (and it makes sense, coming from places like China, or simply places with excessive population) and that’s left for you, pretty much. But then this was exactly my point, that they are not really natural GOP conventional constituency

jimver on November 20, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Romney was a disaster. It was like he was handpicked by Obama out of central casting as the perfect caricature of a “rich 1% Wall street guy”

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 2:03 PM

As a “Palinista,” I am hardly a Romney fan, but “Callista and I” would have been a worse disaster. Can’t Fat Newt go anywhere without his bimbo wife?

bw222 on November 20, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Yeah, no. Gingrich is going on about the 50-states-campaign and “competing everywhere” for years now. So thats just another “see-our-defeat-validates-all-my-opinions” chapter in the Great Book of I-told-you-so.

Valkyriepundit on November 20, 2012 at 2:49 PM

blatantblue on November 20, 2012 at 2:41 PM

It’s feel’s good to be a race traitor. Since I am part black and part hispanic, I figure I am “double” the race traitor. lol

What Romney needed to do is he needed to micro target like Obama did. I still know people in the Trinidadian community in FL (mostly in Miami Dade) and they lean towards the GOP, you have a popular Republican Lt. Gov. from Trinidad and he didn’t use her. He under performed McCain in Miami Dade (Cubans too) by a lot, it’s ultimately why he lost FL.

Stop with the talk about small business and regulations most people have no interest in opening up their own business and are just employees.

He failed because he couldn’t reach the working class whites, cubans. And the pockets of GOP voters in immigrant communities who are also blue collar.

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 2:51 PM

FlaMurph on November 20, 2012 at 2:45 PM

I’m with you.

I’m tired of bad candidates.

I think Romney was a great one.

McCain had no passion until the four weeks prior to the election.

Sarah Palin is too polarizing (real America, etc).

I’m tired of bad candidates, RINOs and TruCons alike.

blatantblue on November 20, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Oh please. Obama got 51%. If everyone who was so “concerned” about Romney had driven a couple people to the polls, obama would be packing right now. Instead they just sat back and heckled. These so-called conservatives were the disaster.

Ronnie on November 20, 2012 at 2:43 PM

Well, that was the problem from the beginning with Romney. He did not make people enthusiastic enough to get them to do things like this. Mediocrity moderate loser!

astonerii on November 20, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Romney got 60% of the white vote that turned out, but it sounds as if overall white turnout was pretty dismal compared to nonwhite turnout.
Seth Halpern on November 20, 2012 at 2:21 PM

According to exit polls, whites accounted for 72% of voters.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2012-exit-poll

According to the Census, non-Hispanic whites are only 63.4 percent of the population, so their turnout was hardly dismal.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

Let’s face the facts. Whites are going to be a smaller and smaller percentage of the electorate each year. Ignoring (or worse, insulting) non-white voters is not a winning strategy.

cam2 on November 20, 2012 at 2:52 PM

and the MSM will trumpet Newt as the moderate voice that needs to define the GOP; what an effing joke. this is the guy who ripped Romney for capitalism. go colonize the moon, please take the first shuttle and take your wife with you.

burserker on November 20, 2012 at 2:52 PM

So anyone under $50,000 is a member of the “parasite class”? That’s a lot of people to be giving up on. The median combined household income in the U.S. is only $51,914.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

cam2 on November 20, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Come on… I did not say that anyone who makes less than $ 50,000 is among the parasite class. I published the exit poll on income voters breakdown because someone said on this thread mentioned that 8 of the 10 richest counties voted for Obama so I wanted to make clear that even this is true still a majority of voters who make more than $ 50,000 voted for Romney and a majority of voters making more than $ 250,000 votes for Romney…

mnjg on November 20, 2012 at 2:53 PM

blatantblue on November 20, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Our language and rhetoric is blocked, that is the problem. Obama really can do almost anything he wants and the media will cover for him, but one little slip by a conservative and it will be blared from the top of every mountain by the media and slipped even into sitcoms. Almost every sitcom I enjoy at some point made political statements against conservative positions.

New York and LA have the country in a stranglehold. Yes, we hold the House, but we have a majority leader in the Senate who says “legal requirements be damned, we won’t work with the anybody and we will let Obama do what he wants through EO”.

The House stands up and tries to push real reforms and plans and they get beat back by the media and admin talking points. If any conservative was president you know Fast and Furious would be a scandal known in almost every household (and be portrayed even worse than it is), the conservative would be known as a massive failure as Commander in Chief for Benghazi, we’d have heard nothing but how horrible it was the president was campaigning while FEMA failed the NY/NJ area. If it was a conservative in the presidency the last four years we’d hear nothing but how he’s destroyed the economy and things are only getting worse.

Need I go on.

From The Big Bang Theory, to the Comedy Central shows, to SNL, and up to the “real news,” our voices are silenced. Even on Fox, which is more thorough, it’s up to bombastic people like O’Reilly and Hannity (I agree with Hannity, he just wastes time he has to make 10 points by repeating 1 point ad nauseum). The people we have to influence aren’t watching the Sunday morning talking heads shows, they’re getting ready for church or checking their fantasy football lineups.

We have to bust through both overt and subtle cultural resistance that is huge.

The channels exist to get that message out, but unfortunately too many people won’t turn to those sources until the pain hits, and it may be too late by then. And God forbid we listen to the Brooks and Gingrich’s of this world and have a liberal-lite message running in those places when people come to them.

I just hope the rioters hit the rich people named Diane Sawyer, Chris Matthews, Brian Williams, Eva Longoria, etc. first.

PastorJon on November 20, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Well, that was the problem from the beginning with Romney. He did not make people enthusiastic enough to get them to do things like this. Mediocrity moderate loser!

astonerii on November 20, 2012 at 2:52 PM

I would have been enthusiastic about voting for a ham sandwich over obama. Anyone who didn’t feel that way was the disaster.

Ronnie on November 20, 2012 at 2:54 PM

jimver on November 20, 2012 at 2:40 PM

That’s why the GOP needs to launch a direct and scorched earth type offensive on it. MESSAGING. You think if Boehner says ok let’s raise taxes on the rich but you have to raise taxes on hollywood movie studios and watch them squirm.

You think the Dems would die on that hill? Protecting hollywood’s tax breaks? When they have all these other “special interest groups” they need to hold together? Fat chance. Kneecap Hollywood and teach the F— a lesson.

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 2:55 PM

PastorJon on November 20, 2012 at 2:54 PM

I really should have clarified my comment, and really put it in context of our elected officials.

They go on interview after interview spouting the same talking points they’ve been spouting forever.

Let’s re-frame the debate; go on the offensive.

When a R is facing a D on a panel talk show, that Republican representative should ask that Democrat why he wants more people on food stamps.

Ask him why he wants more people on the government dole.

Ask him why he wants increased dependency.

lets PUT THESE PEOPLE ON DEFENSE the way they put us on it!

blatantblue on November 20, 2012 at 2:57 PM

What a bunch of loser morons! Jindhal, Rubio and now Gingrich.

What happened to the idea that all (voters) are created equal?
If we cut taxes, balance the budget, cut the deficit, create jobs, doesn’t that benefit all citizens (and non citizens too I guess)?

What are the repubs going to give to these special interest groups that they aren’t already getting from the dems? Who is falling
for this crapola? I can’t wait for the next election. There will
be “freebie” booths set up to see who can give away the best cell phone deal, laptop, etc. Then, in order to better understand
the minority and special interest voter, there will be committees
headed up by therapists so the repub candidate can better understand their pain! Violins will be playing. I will be puking.

And, once again, what about massive voter fraud do they not get?
Or, more likely, they get it, they just don’t want to discuss the
issue because they might get caught with THEIR pants down.

Don’t fall for this freaking smokescreen.

Amjean on November 20, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Let’s face the facts. Whites are going to be a smaller and smaller percentage of the electorate each year. Ignoring (or worse, insulting) non-white voters is not a winning strategy.

cam2 on November 20, 2012 at 2:52 PM

True and the focus shall be mainly on the Latinos which is the second largest ethnic group after Whites in addition to increase our share among Whites to 65% if not 70%… I am not saying that we should be able to get a majority of the Latinos but at least 35% of them and 40% would be better… Someone made the argument to go after Asian vote and I agree that we should be getting at least 50% of them although they are only 3% of the population and mostly concentrated in blue states… Sadly one group we have zero hope with is the Black voters where the vast majority of them are strongly depending on the Welfare State for living and not only depending on it but they feel so entitled to have other people money…

mnjg on November 20, 2012 at 2:57 PM

bw222 on November 20, 2012 at 2:47 PM

If you read my other posts you would have seen I agreed that Newt would have been worse. I thought Perry would have done best because of how well he has done with hispanics in TX.

He won 47% of Hispanics in TX in 2010. Romney won 31%.

Food for thought.

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 2:58 PM

FlaMurph on November 20, 2012 at 2:23 PM

By 2016 Hillary will be so ugly she will make Candy Crowley and Eleanor Roosevelt look like beauty queens.

bw222 on November 20, 2012 at 2:58 PM

I would have been enthusiastic about voting for a ham sandwich over obama. Anyone who didn’t feel that way was the disaster.

Ronnie on November 20, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Other candidates in the past got those voters out. Bush did it twice, the Tea Party did it in 2010. The problem was the candidate, not the electorate!

astonerii on November 20, 2012 at 3:00 PM

gingrich makes a good point about how romney did not go far enough into the culture with shows like the colbert report. obama did do those kinds of things, and that’s why, to a lot of people, obama came across as more likeable. because of this, many people believed the crap about romney being a heartless rich snob, and many people think obama is cool and friendly and loving to everyone. romney tried so hard to say over and over that he did care about the middle class, but obama also made points about how he supposedly cares about the middle class. in the debates, they were both repeatedly saying “my plan is the best for the middle class,” but more people trusted obama over romney because they liked him more. that’s my theory.

Sachiko on November 20, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Rick Perry has no one but himself to blame. His performance in the debates was horroenedous.

bw222 on November 20, 2012 at 3:00 PM

I live in the country. Were there any ads in the big cities on MTV, BET, TruTV, TBS, etc. about how if the deficit isn’t fixed, welfare, food stamps, etc. all go away and Obama has only made that deficit worse?

Were there ads about how unsustainable things are?

Were there hardcore ads hammering that the cost of watching those crappy shows was going to skyrocket with electricity prices, using Obama’s own words?

Nope.

We played nice, once again believed the media would be fair, and now, I believe it’s too late.

Through EO and regs this administration is going to destroy this country. Just keep yourself safe and care for your neighbors.

PastorJon on November 20, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Newt, the guy who back pedaled from his attacks on a biased media and fed the media narrative that we are not a center right nation, is the defeatist.

Now that all the numbers are in it is clear that Obama won the election because he was able to mobilize his vote. Romney’s GOTV effort not only failed, but his campaign allowed Obama to define him all summer long.

Sucking up to Joy Behar and Colbert just so they can ridicule you to your face or behind your back as you leave the set is not the way to win elections. It’s still a center right nation and will remain so until proven otherwise. Right now Obama is a cult of personality that we don’t have an answer for, but when he is not on the ticket our ideas still win.

Daemonocracy on November 20, 2012 at 2:35 PM

If you believe Newt, who believes Mitt could have won apparently more than Mitt himself, is more of a defeatist than those who believe Mitt couldn’t have won no matter how much he might have improved his outreach to superficial, low-info voters, you have a misguided and Orwellian definition of “defeatism”.

Anti-Control on November 20, 2012 at 3:00 PM

As a “Palinista,” I am hardly a Romney fan, but “Callista and I” would have been a worse disaster. Can’t Fat Newt go anywhere without his bimbo wife?

bw222 on November 20, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Agree… a male politician having his wife appearing with him a lot is not appealing to many voters…

mnjg on November 20, 2012 at 3:01 PM

According to the Census, non-Hispanic whites are only 63.4 percent of the population, so their turnout was hardly dismal.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

Not a apples-to-apples comparison, as many Hispanics classify themsleves as White to boost the White electorate above 70%.

And as others have pointed out about 6-10 million White voters did not go to the polls. If most had, the electorate would still be 74% White.

sentinelrules on November 20, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 2:58 PM

I’m with you on the micro targeting.

I also think the GOP needs to start attacking in blue states

Here in NY, the GOP used to have an actual presence ten years ago.

Since Rove’s “fifty plus one” strategy became the norm, the GOP has abandoned many areas where they should still be keeping a presence. The GOP has fallen back to what I call the Alamo, and because of years of this, they’ve stopped trying to expand throughout the country.

blatantblue on November 20, 2012 at 3:03 PM

Other candidates in the past got those voters out. Bush did it twice, the Tea Party did it in 2010. The problem was the candidate, not the electorate!

astonerii on November 20, 2012 at 3:00 PM

51% of the country voted for barack obama. The electorate has its issues, to put it mildly.

Ronnie on November 20, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Agree… a male politician having his wife appearing with him a lot is not appealing to many voters…

mnjg on November 20, 2012 at 3:01 PM

I think Calista is supposed to be some kind of moral bodyguard, a walking counter-narrative against the stories about his affairs/divorces.

Valkyriepundit on November 20, 2012 at 3:04 PM

The only honest fighter that wouldn’t have given up or pander didn’t run.

kim roy on November 20, 2012 at 2:05 PM

I think she realized that the movers, shakers and deep pockets in the Republican Party weren’t going to give her a chance this time around. They blamed her for the loss in 2008 and that only Romney could win in 2012. They needed to see for themselves that McCain/Palin got more votes than Romney/Ryan, esp in swing states; none of them would have believed it without seeing.

alwaysfiredup on November 20, 2012 at 3:04 PM

PastorJon on November 20, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Romney never went after Obama on Fast Furious and only barely hit him on Benghazi. This is the same attitude I saw in the McCain campaign.

He also didn’t micro target pockets of GOP voters like Obama did.

Messaging and perception killed Romney.

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 3:04 PM

*and thought that only Romney could win in 2012.

alwaysfiredup on November 20, 2012 at 3:05 PM

51% of the electorate voted for barack obama.

Ronnie on November 20, 2012 at 3:04 PM

The electorate is not the country. Some people who voted for McCain/Palin stayed home and didn’t vote.

alwaysfiredup on November 20, 2012 at 3:06 PM

blatantblue on November 20, 2012 at 2:57 PM

I agree with you, that they should to those things, but I just don’t think it will work. The places they do those things have a political junkie audience that is pretty set in their opinions already. And then the TMSM will chop it up, call the conservatives bullies, and distort it. The Dems will start sending minority women to those interview and talk shows and then push the meme in the media that we’re racist and sexist because of how we treated them, even if we have Mia Love doing the arguing for us.

We’ve let the progressives take over our schools and media over the last 100 years while we complacently trusted our constitution to protect us and ignored what was happening. It may take that long to turn those institutions back to the neutral, just the facts places we need them to be. I just don’t think we have the time to do it.

PastorJon on November 20, 2012 at 3:07 PM

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 3:04 PM

The one place Romney had a place to do that to Obama’s face, he fast discovered that it was two against one, and even the moderator of a debate would lie to cover for The One.

He should have put out a lot more ads on the Administration’s scandals, energized more people to vote Obama out, even if they weren’t energized to vote for Romney. I’m just not sure it could have overwhelmed the liberal TMSM push back.

PastorJon on November 20, 2012 at 3:09 PM

51% of the country voted for barack obama. The electorate has its issues, to put it mildly.

Ronnie on November 20, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Some people who voted McCain voted Obama this turn…
Some people, about 10 million, stayed home this turn…
Some people who voted Obama 2008 stayed home this turn…
Some people who voted in 2010 stayed home this turn…

I guess in two years, what happened was the PEOPLE of the NATION changed, it had nothing to do with Romney the candidate, nothing at all, just that in 2 years, after the Tea Party victories, the gift giving suddenly converted its single largest block of voters in record time! Yeah, that is what it is.

astonerii on November 20, 2012 at 3:10 PM

blatantblue on November 20, 2012 at 3:03 PM

I agree 100%. You can’t win when you’re on’y fighting on your turf. And for too long the GOP has only fought defensively. Bush did better in NY in 2004, he lost 58%-41% IRC. While Romney lost 65%-35% (something like that).

That is a big pocket of votes that are abandoned by the GOP.

Micro targeting should be a big priority. Like I alluded to earlier, there are pockets of GOP voters in deep blue areas in swing states. Especially immigrants be it Trinidadians, Barbadians, Poles, Romanians, Czechs, etc. That don’t normally vote but lean heavily GOP.

Raquel Pinkbullet on November 20, 2012 at 3:11 PM

The electorate is not the country. Some people who voted for McCain/Palin stayed home and didn’t vote.

alwaysfiredup on November 20, 2012 at 3:06 PM

Excellent catch. I assume you got the point though. A lot of people are stupid, and obama got four more years.

Ronnie on November 20, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Newt, your time is passed. Establishment Republicans are the ones who got us in this pickle. Get off the stage and make way for Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal, Susanna Martinez, Paul Ryan, and Rand Paul (to name just a few). They are our standard bearers now.

College Prof on November 20, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Some people who voted McCain voted Obama this turn…
Some people, about 10 million, stayed home this turn…
Some people who voted Obama 2008 stayed home this turn…
Some people who voted in 2010 stayed home this turn…

astonerii on November 20, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Some people are stupid.

Ronnie on November 20, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Rick Perry has no one but himself to blame. His performance in the debates was horrendous.

bw222 on November 20, 2012 at 3:00 PM

SparkPlug on November 20, 2012 at 3:15 PM

I think Calista is supposed to be some kind of moral bodyguard, a walking counter-narrative against the stories about his affairs/divorces.

Valkyriepundit on November 20, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Well this is a silly strategy…

mnjg on November 20, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Newt, your time is passed. Establishment Republicans are the ones who got us in this pickle. Get off the stage and make way for Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal, Susanna Martinez, Paul Ryan, and Rand Paul (to name just a few). They are our standard bearers now.

College Prof on November 20, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Marco time to legalize the illegals Rubio needs room?

Paul I can make this deficit train go on for two more generations Ryan needs room?

I don’t trust Rand Paul, I am thinking that NUT did not fall far from the IDIOT tree.

The other ones, where is Nikki _ love me some Romney Haley in your list and Allen West?

astonerii on November 20, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Some people are stupid.

Ronnie on November 20, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Might be so, but Romney made certain they stayed HOME stupid instead of getting out voting for Romney stupid.

Romney and you should already know people are stupid, and if you and him do not, that is YOUR FAILURES.

astonerii on November 20, 2012 at 3:17 PM

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