Elmo creator resigns as second sex allegation surfaces

posted at 4:07 pm on November 20, 2012 by Mary Katharine Ham

Topping off a surreal month of news coverage for “Sesame Street,” the creator and voice actor for the beloved Sesame Street character Elmo, resigned Tuesday amid sex allegations. The statement from Sesame Workshop, the organization that produces the show:

Sesame Workshop’s mission is to harness the educational power of media to help all children the world over reach their highest potential. Kevin Clash has helped us achieve that mission for 28 years, and none of us, especially Kevin, want anything to divert our attention from our focus on serving as a leading educational organization. Unfortunately, the controversy surrounding Kevin’s personal life has become a distraction that none of us wants, and he has concluded that he can no longer be effective in his job and has resigned from Sesame Street. This is a sad day for Sesame Street.

Clash also released a statement:

In a statement of his own, Clash said “personal matters have diverted attention away from the important work Sesame Street is doing and I cannot allow it to go on any longer. I am deeply sorry to be leaving and am looking forward to resolving these personal matters privately.”

Clash announced a leave of absence from the show last week after a 23-year-old man claimed the puppeteer had had a sexual relationship with him when he was underage. Clash was allegedly 45 and the accuser, 16. The man recanted his accusation the next day. TMZ, who broke the story wondered if there was a settlement involved:

It’s unclear why the accuser suddenly changed his story … but sources close to the situation tell TMZ … the accuser’s attorney had been meeting with Clash’s attorney as recent as an hour ago, discussing a financial settlement and 6-figures were on the table.

We broke the story, the accuser claimed he had a sexual relationship with Kevin beginning when he was 16 and Kevin was 45.

Clash has also released a statement saying, “I am relieved that this painful allegation has been put to rest. I will not discuss it further.”

The first accuser is officially remaining anonymous, but gossip sites have revealed he’s an aspiring actor and model with a criminal record.

But a second accuser, Cecil Singleton, filed a lawsuit Tuesday, claiming he had some kind of sexual relationship with Clash at age 15. Singleton is suing for $5 million in damages.

The federal civil complaint, filed in New York by Cecil Singleton, alleged that Clash — now 52 — picked him up in 1993 on a gay phone chat line.

Singleton said he was 15 at the time, while Clash was 32.

“[Clash] trolled gay telephone chat line rooms to meet and have sex with underage boys,” Singleton claimed in his explosive lawsuit.

“[Clash] groomed [the accuser] to gain his trust by, among other things, taking him to nice dinners and giving him money.”

Even though the alleged sex happened nearly 20 years ago, Singleton said he remained silent all this time, because he didn’t know the psychological and emotional damage the intimate, underaged contact did.

The lawsuit said Singleton “did not become aware that he had suffered adverse psychological and emotional effects from Kevin Clash’s sexual acts and conduct until 2012.”

I’m torn on this story. Until these allegations surfaced, Clash was an inspirational figure, thanks to the documentary “Being Elmo,” which chronicled his improbable rise from the poorer neighborhoods of Baltimore to one of Jim Henson’s most valuable puppeteers at the height of the Muppets’ fame. What were the chances a young black man from Charm City with an unusual childhood penchant for creating characters out of foam and scrap fabric could turn that hobby into a prestigious career? But he did. As a young man, he played puppets in features like “Labyrinth.” Later, he created one of the most famous characters on the planet in Elmo and made it his mission to mentor young people interested in performing.

And, all that sounded sweet and amazing before now sounds creepy. Clash was married as a young man and has one daughter, now 19. He is divorced from her mother. In the wake of this incident, he announced he is gay:

The episode this week led to Mr. Clash coming out as a gay man, something he had not previously discussed in public. “I have never been ashamed of this or tried to hide it, but felt it was a personal and private matter,” he said in the statement on Monday.

The fact that the first accuser recanted his statement a day after going public is fishy. The fact that there are two accusers lends credence to the first accuser’s original story, but then, the second accuser is also looking for $5 million in damages. And one must always calculate the allure of a fame-ball career propelled by a TMZ appearance in these stories. Sesame Workshop says it did several investigations when the accuser brought the charges to them in June, both by their “own staffers and outside firms,” according to the NYT. Sesame Workshop has an incentive to protect its brand, and Clash had become a big part of it, but one would think any hint of sexual impropriety with minors would have gotten Clash tossed out of an organization whose entire mission is to work closely with children thanks to tremendous trust from parents. Then again, we also know how protective and ultimately destructive a big-money enterprise with a lot to lose can be in the face of a possible in-house scandal.

Update: Oh, and of course, there’s the glaring fact that Clash has yet to forcefully deny any of this.

Two things. Is this something that can get resolved privately? Thus far, this is all civil, but it is criminal to have sexual contact with minors. And, in a fun twist on “imagine if it were a Republican,” notice almost none of the copious coverage of this scandal wonders if it warrants an examination of whether the rather well-off Sesame Workshop deserves our tax money.


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Oh, what will follow on this thread . . .

mwbri on November 20, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Ick.

gophergirl on November 20, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Nutsy wutsy.

Mason on November 20, 2012 at 4:09 PM

“I am relieved that this painful allegation has been put to rest. I will not discuss it further.”

Translation: “I did it.”

Rational Thought on November 20, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Once again picking on women and minorities.

BHO Jonestown on November 20, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Oh, come on! This so called gay phone chat line is used to hook up to have sex. I don’t believe for a second that the “teens” were on it for any other reason.

Blake on November 20, 2012 at 4:14 PM

show us on the elmo doll where elmo touched you…..

ted c on November 20, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Our tax dollars at work.

These are the kind of people living off the government teat.

UltimateBob on November 20, 2012 at 4:14 PM

It’s open minded and intellectual to endorse gay marriage, or something.

sentinelrules on November 20, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Elmo: “Elmo is sad.”

aunursa on November 20, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Unfortunately, the controversy surrounding Kevin’s personal life has become a distraction that none of us wants, and he has concluded that he can no longer be effective in his job and has resigned from Sesame Street. This is a sad day for Sesame Street.

It’s always someone’s personal life when they are on the left. It becomes a sh*t storm when it is a Catholic Priest or someone on the right.

chemman on November 20, 2012 at 4:15 PM

MKH, I hope you punch Bill OReilly in the nose the next time you see him.

ted c on November 20, 2012 at 4:16 PM

In the wake of this incident, he announced he is gay:

Child molester, its the new black gay

ted c on November 20, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Elmo is ephebophilic?

Sekhmet on November 20, 2012 at 4:17 PM

So let’s be clear. If this was a right wing organization, here is the headline you would see in the NYT, WaPo, etc and of course would run 24/7 on the MSM, CNN, MSNBC, etc:

“Taxpayers funds used to fund organization with sex offender employees”

Opposite Day on November 20, 2012 at 4:19 PM

If Jerry Sandusky were an active Democrat, preferably one running for office, he would also be “looking forward to resolving these personal matters privately”.

Archivarix on November 20, 2012 at 4:19 PM

It’s disgusting that PBS would have this pedophile teaching millions of kids.

Time to investigate PBS.

sentinelrules on November 20, 2012 at 4:19 PM

I feel a great disturbance in the force, as if a million computers just opened Photoshop and started searching for images of Elmo and P3d0bear.

Sekhmet on November 20, 2012 at 4:21 PM

I’m not necessarily against gay marriage. However, we are idiots if we can’t acknowledge that gay men are always looking for underaged ‘recruits.’ It’s the dirty little secret of a very promiscuous culture.

Corporal Tunnel on November 20, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Tickle me.

Pork-Chop on November 20, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Remember the PC media mantra:

Jerry Sandusky was not a homosexual. His victims all just happened to be male.

The same applies to Clash.

jangle12 on November 20, 2012 at 4:22 PM

As a young man, he played puppets in features like “Labyrinth.” Later, he created one of the most famous characters on the planet in Elmo and made it his mission to mentor young people interested in performing.

Great. Way to tarnish one of my childhood favs, Labyrinth. BTW, Kevin Clash also played Splinter in the first two Ninja Turtles flicks in the early 90′s.

Doughboy on November 20, 2012 at 4:23 PM

This can’t be true. Gay people have been telling us forever that they’re not child predators.

Special Forces Grunt on November 20, 2012 at 4:26 PM

MKH, I hope you punch Bill OReilly in the nose the next time you see him.

ted c on November 20, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Will his nose make a “honk” noise if she does?

DrAllecon on November 20, 2012 at 4:27 PM

He’s black so it’s racist to comment.
And he’s gay so it’s homophobic to comment.

But I can still laugh my ass off at a liberal getting caught up in something you never see liberals get in trouble for and then having problems with his predicament anyway. Anthony Weiner Part II.

DanMan on November 20, 2012 at 4:28 PM

I’m not necessarily against gay marriage. However, we are idiots if we can’t acknowledge that gay men are always looking for underaged ‘recruits.’ It’s the dirty little secret of a very promiscuous culture.

Corporal Tunnel on November 20, 2012 at 4:21 PM

This.

Shump on November 20, 2012 at 4:29 PM

1. Black.
2. In the entertainment business.
3. Lived off government teat.
4. Pedophile.

We could be looking at a future democrat senate candidate here.

jukin3 on November 20, 2012 at 4:29 PM

Gay males are all potential pedophiles. Once they get rid of age of consent laws (the next item on the agenda) they will be unleashed.

echosyst on November 20, 2012 at 4:29 PM

It’s sickening. I’m having a hard time letting my kids watch Elmo now.

mrscullen on November 20, 2012 at 4:30 PM

I’m not necessarily against gay marriage. However, we are idiots if we can’t acknowledge that gay men are always looking for underaged ‘recruits.’ It’s the dirty little secret of a very promiscuous culture.

Corporal Tunnel on November 20, 2012 at 4:21 PM

They even have a national organisation to help them accomplish that, NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association)

NapaConservative on November 20, 2012 at 4:30 PM

Gay males are all potential pedophiles. Once they get rid of age of consent laws (the next item on the agenda) they will be unleashed.

echosyst on November 20, 2012 at 4:29 PM

Straight men, meanwhile, totally don’t go for the lo-lo-lo-lolitas.

Nope, nope.

( generalizations are f-f-f-f-fun )

Jeddite on November 20, 2012 at 4:32 PM

echosyst on November 20, 2012 at 4:29 PM

Paging Jetboy…

EnglishRogue on November 20, 2012 at 4:33 PM

Blake on November 20, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Exactly! I bet Clash is a victim in this! The kids set him up for a future payout.

/ (I shouldn’t have too)

DanMan on November 20, 2012 at 4:33 PM

Innocent until proven guilty.

Dr. ZhivBlago on November 20, 2012 at 4:34 PM

I honestly don’t much care what he did. That being said, I enjoy the schadenfreude from this after the “kill Big Bird” nonsense. CTW is a generally good organization, but after allowing their allies to play politics with their taxpayer-funded brand, they more than deserve this pain.

thebrokenrattle on November 20, 2012 at 4:36 PM

jukin3 nailed it..gov. paid gay black actor. That is the pinnacle of base coverage and has got dem pol pedigree all over it.

DanMan on November 20, 2012 at 4:37 PM

They even have a national organisation to help them accomplish that, NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association)

NapaConservative on November 20, 2012 at 4:30 PM

That’s next on the slippery slope of common decency.

sentinelrules on November 20, 2012 at 4:38 PM

Paging Jetboy…

EnglishRogue on November 20, 2012 at 4:33 PM

& libfreeordie

22044 on November 20, 2012 at 4:40 PM

Even though the alleged sex happened nearly 20 years ago, Singleton said he remained silent all this time, because he didn’t know the psychological and emotional damage the intimate, underaged contact did.

Seriously? Almost 20 years to figure that part out? Doesn’t this seem ridiculous?

Katerina on November 20, 2012 at 4:41 PM

Straight men, meanwhile, totally don’t go for the lo-lo-lo-lolitas.

Nope, nope.

( generalizations are f-f-f-f-fun )

Jeddite on November 20, 2012 at 4:32 PM

Please point me to the national organisation that promotes hetero males who want sexual relationships with underage girls.

Let’s even the score before we get too deep into the generalization process.

You can’t, because there is none.

NapaConservative on November 20, 2012 at 4:42 PM

And UPS has stopped contributing to the Boy Scouts because of their policy against hiring the Kevin Clashes of the world.

We need more gay priests too, so their inevitable actions can be used to attack the Church.

Akzed on November 20, 2012 at 4:42 PM

“Tickle Me Homo”

…..too soon??

JasperBallbaggins on November 20, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Just another depraved liberal. Nothing to see here. All is well. Move along…

Mr. Arrogant on November 20, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Is this the same outfit that deals with ‘big bird’? Does the ‘bird’ have problems also?
L

letget on November 20, 2012 at 4:43 PM

One question; where did the money for the first (pre-election) payout come from? After the election, throwing Elmo- and his useful friend Big Bird- under the bus is fine.

michaelo on November 20, 2012 at 4:45 PM

A black guy who likes to put on a childlike voice and get cozy with adolescent boys? If he could moonwalk, he’d have his own ABC Thanksgiving special directed by Spike Lee!

Smoothies on November 20, 2012 at 4:46 PM

If only we had an institution. You know, one that encouraged gay men to embrace fidelity and commitment … and then told gay men that they should join this institution by giving each other rings as symbols of commitment, and announcing their decision in front of friends and family. Then we could give them partner rights!

Oh wait, that’s actually smart. Excuse me. I forgot we opposed family values.

ZachV on November 20, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Corporal Tunnel on November 20, 2012 at 4:21 PM

You ought to check out public schools lots of male and female teachers (gay and straight) are looking for under aged recruits.

chemman on November 20, 2012 at 4:46 PM

MKH, I hope you punch Bill OReilly in the nose the next time you see him.

ted c on November 20, 2012 at 4:16 PM

I agree. I think he was a total a$$hole last night in general, but he was particularly ignorant to MKH. I never watch him, but I was up in the middle of the night and too lazy to change the channel.

Night Owl on November 20, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Actually the first accuser was apparently engaging in extortion and his attorney was walking a fine ethical line.

AcidReflux on November 20, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Man who’s spent his career pretending to be a tiny, effeminate red puppet is a creepy pederast? Well, what do you know.

(O/T but rhetorical questions on internet: ‘?’ or ‘.’ ?)

WeekendAtBernankes on November 20, 2012 at 4:48 PM

If only we had an institution. You know, one that encouraged gay men to embrace fidelity and commitment … and then told gay men that they should join this institution by giving each other rings as symbols of commitment, and announcing their decision in front of friends and family. Then we could give them partner rights!

Oh wait, that’s actually smart. Excuse me. I forgot we opposed family values.

ZachV on November 20, 2012 at 4:46 PM

So, if you marry you’re automatically a family?

NapaConservative on November 20, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Actually the first accuser was apparently engaging in extortion and his attorney was walking a fine ethical line. AcidReflux on November 20, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Yeah well that’s the kind of thing these types open themselves up to. That’s why we don’t let them into our military. Oh wait…

Akzed on November 20, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Bert and Ernie are pretty gay too.

Wear the same clothes, sleep in the same room. No girls whatsoever, play with a rubber duckie.

Come on.

sentinelrules on November 20, 2012 at 4:51 PM

MKH, I don’t know why you are torn about this. Elmo’s persona has nothing to do with Clash.

If he were innocent PBS and Sesame Street would have circled the wagons and never let him resign. Notice Sesame Street says it’s a sad day for it–not for those young men/boys. These are Libs we’re talking about. Why would they do this unless they had to do it?

I checked his age, and Clash is 52. That means he was probably in his 40′s when both criminal allegations occurred.

INC on November 20, 2012 at 4:53 PM

but it is criminal to have sexual contact with minors.

Yes, it is (and should be), but there are statutes of limitation that bar criminal prosecution of these types of crimes after a certain number of years (varies by state law). Here, the alleged crime with the first victim occurred seven years ago, and the alleged crime with the second victim occurred 20 years ago.

AZCoyote on November 20, 2012 at 4:53 PM

Innocent until proven guilty.

Dr. ZhivBlago on November 20, 2012 at 4:34 PM

Sure but his accusers seem to want money rather criminal justice so it’s a civil action and you don;t need the same level of proof. At least this accuser isn’t hiding behind anonymity like the earlier one.

Don’t you have to be a certain age in order to use those chatlines?

I’m also keeping an open mind on this until we know more.

lexhamfox on November 20, 2012 at 4:53 PM

Oh wait, that’s actually smart. Excuse me. I forgot we opposed family values. ZachV on November 20, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Yes, let’s build our culture on two dudes blwoing and porking one another by turns. Boy that’s family values!

Wait, how did we go from pedophilia to gay marriage? Oh I get it, he preys on boys because he can’t get married. Now I see.

Akzed on November 20, 2012 at 4:53 PM

If only we had an institution. You know, one that encouraged gay men fathers and daughters to embrace fidelity and commitment … and then told gay men fathers and daughters that they should join this institution by giving each other rings as symbols of commitment, and announcing their decision in front of friends and family. Then we could give them partner rights!

Oh wait, that’s actually smart. Excuse me. I forgot we opposed family values.

ZachV on November 20, 2012 at 4:46 PM

You’re onto something here Sherlock. Our future society will be a fun, albeit disgusting, ball of wax. Oh, and you do promote equal rights for all, right? In the spirit of diversity and inclusiveness of course.

NapaConservative on November 20, 2012 at 4:54 PM

So, since one of their own got caught, look for the next liberal cause to be the legalization of pedophilia. My bet is in 5 years or less, Sandusky will be a hero of the left and talked about as a martyr of the boybuttn community.

devan95 on November 20, 2012 at 4:54 PM

There are comments on other sites that make my stomach turn.

“The US has some of the strictest and highest age of consent laws. The rest of the world has age of consent at 14-15. We need to lower the age to prevent this stuff.”

Wha what?

The liberals never fail to out themselves for the pervy scum they are.

portlandon on November 20, 2012 at 4:57 PM

ease point me to the national organisation that promotes hetero males who want sexual relationships with underage girls.

Let’s even the score before we get too deep into the generalization process.

You can’t, because there is none.

NapaConservative on November 20, 2012 at 4:42 PM

Sex with minors is wrong regardless of the genders/orientations involved. Gay sex with minors is not somehow more wrong that heterosexual sex with minors.

You knew this, of course, before you tried to manipulate somebody into defending NAMBLA.

Jeddite on November 20, 2012 at 4:58 PM

If only we had an institution. You know, one that encouraged gay men to embrace fidelity and commitment … and then told gay men that they should join this institution by giving each other rings as symbols of commitment, and announcing their decision in front of friends and family. Then we could give them partner rights!

Oh wait, that’s actually smart. Excuse me. I forgot we opposed family values.

ZachV on November 20, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Kevin Clash entered into that “institution” and “exchanged rings” with a woman and that union produced a daughter. Do you think his relationship with underage boys warrants the same status?

monalisa on November 20, 2012 at 4:59 PM

If only we had an institution. You know, one that encouraged gay men to embrace fidelity and commitment … and then told gay men that they should join this institution by giving each other rings as symbols of commitment, and announcing their decision in front of friends and family. Then we could give them partner rights!

Oh wait, that’s actually smart. Excuse me. I forgot we opposed family values.

ZachV on November 20, 2012 at 4:46 PM

His marriage to a woman didn’t prevent him from going after younger boys, what makes you think a marriage to another man would?

weaselyone on November 20, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Sex with minors is wrong regardless of the genders/orientations involved. Gay sex with minors is not somehow more wrong that heterosexual sex with minors.

You knew this, of course, before you tried to manipulate somebody into defending NAMBLA.

Jeddite on November 20, 2012 at 4:58 PM

You silly goose, you pointed out NAMBLA. That’s not what I asked for, I asked for the hetero equivalent.

Try again.

NapaConservative on November 20, 2012 at 5:00 PM

The liberals never fail to out themselves for the pervy scum they are.

portlandon on November 20, 2012 at 4:57 PM

These are the same twerps defending Roman Polanski to drug and rape little girls, because he makes “thought-provoking” movies or soemthing.

Ditto Woody Allen.

sentinelrules on November 20, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Bert and Ernie are pretty gay too.

Wear the same clothes, sleep in the same room. No girls whatsoever, play with a rubber duckie.

Come on.

sentinelrules on November 20, 2012 at 4:51 PM

Elmo says Elmo not interested. Bert and Ernie too old. Elmo have ideas for rubber duckie, though.

stvnscott on November 20, 2012 at 5:02 PM

I’m always leery of a man that keeps his hand up a puppets rear.

faraway on November 20, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Priest sex scandal – GAY PEDOPHILIA

Sandusky – GAY PEDO

Boy Scout abuse scandal-GAY PEDOPHILIA

This guy- GAY PEDO

avgjo on November 20, 2012 at 5:03 PM

You silly goose, you pointed out NAMBLA. That’s not what I asked for, I asked for the hetero equivalent.

Try again.

NapaConservative on November 20, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Oh, how clever! You alluded to NAMBLA without actually saying so specifically!

I’m under no obligation to indulge you, tee hee hee. But feel free to pretend that the sexualization of children doesn’t occur on the heterosexual side of the pedo-aisle too. Gotta grind that axe, amirite.

Jeddite on November 20, 2012 at 5:03 PM

These are the same twerps defending Roman Polanski to drug and rape little girls, because he makes “thought-provoking” movies or soemthing.

Ditto Woody Allen.

sentinelrules on November 20, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Whoa sentinel, I have very credible information that the Polanski thingy wasn’t rape-rape.

NapaConservative on November 20, 2012 at 5:04 PM

This is part of the entertainment industry. It’s clear there has been a climate of using kids for sex in exchange for access from virtual the first film made. It probably existed in theaters before that for ages. I would be willing to bet that the majority of children in every generation of actors has been molested and used for sex. These victims often go on to become the worst molesters themselves.

Rocks on November 20, 2012 at 5:04 PM

I’m under no obligation to indulge you, tee hee hee. But feel free to pretend that the sexualization of children doesn’t occur on the heterosexual side of the pedo-aisle too. Gotta grind that axe, amirite.

Jeddite on November 20, 2012 at 5:03 PM

Thought so. OK, keep playing referee while allowing the ball to go outside the lines. It builds you credibility by leaps and bounds.

Carry on.

NapaConservative on November 20, 2012 at 5:06 PM

forget the news…go find that “tickle me” doll and save it for future profits on EBay. I personally have a gag-gift from my mom…Peewee Herman with the old pull-string voice activater (prior to the theater “incident”).

teejk on November 20, 2012 at 5:07 PM

Why do you think Elmo turned red all the time?

faraway on November 20, 2012 at 5:08 PM

Why do you think Elmo turned red all the time?

faraway on November 20, 2012 at 5:08 PM

Because Clash his arm up Elmo’s backside for 28 years?

portlandon on November 20, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Thought so. OK, keep playing referee while allowing the ball to go outside the lines. It builds you credibility by leaps and bounds.

Carry on.

NapaConservative on November 20, 2012 at 5:06 PM

And you enjoy your crusade to, um… whatever it is you think you’re accomplishing.

Parents need not worry about their daughters being preyed upon by lecherous adults (male or female)… unless they come across a NMGLA newsletter. That would be cause for concern.

Jeddite on November 20, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Why do you think Elmo turned red all the time?

faraway on November 20, 2012 at 5:08 PM

Also, why his voice remained so squeaky for 16 years.

sentinelrules on November 20, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Grover welcomes the death of Elmo. Grover is a far better Muppet. His voice isn’t like nails on a chalkboard like Elmo’s was.

portlandon on November 20, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Elmo will need lots of counseling and Quaaludes after this.

faraway on November 20, 2012 at 5:14 PM

I’m not necessarily against gay marriage. However, we are idiots if we can’t acknowledge that gay men are always looking for underaged ‘recruits.’ It’s the dirty little secret of a very promiscuous culture.

Corporal Tunnel on November 20, 2012 at 4:21 PM

If you and any onthers really believe that tripe, then yes…you are most definitely idiots.

JetBoy on November 20, 2012 at 5:15 PM

Caption: Elmo and Homo.

Ward Cleaver on November 20, 2012 at 5:18 PM

And you enjoy your crusade to, um… whatever it is you think you’re accomplishing.

Parents need not worry about their daughters being preyed upon by lecherous adults (male or female)… unless they come across a NMGLA newsletter. That would be cause for concern.

Jeddite on November 20, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Maybe Elmo can explain it to you with his squeeky little voice. Of course it happens on the hetero side too. But the gay side is organised through a national organisation that’s somehow allowed to exist even though their agenda is fully open and displayed on the internet. It’s used as a hub and a blue print to guide the gay pedofiles so they can accomplish their goal faster and it gives them a tremendous resource and legitimizes it within their community.

Again you fool, until you point to a hetero equivalent, your whining about generalization is moot.

Go back to work now and find me that site. Until you do, please don’t speak of things you don’t understand.

Elmo out.

NapaConservative on November 20, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Have Oscar the Grouch, Cookie Monster, and Big Bird weighed in on the story yet?

TigerPaw on November 20, 2012 at 5:22 PM

JetBoy on November 20, 2012 at 5:15 PM

You wouldn’t deny that maybe some homosexuals engage in that, or other, unsavory or immoral behavior, though, would you?

I have read on sites over the years that there are some very uncomfortable ties between some (or most?) homosexual rights groups and nambla, or nambla-like, groups.

According to these sites, the homosexual groups used to permit the nambla ones to have members and/or floats in their parades, ads in their magazines, and that sort of thing. Some of the homosexual rights groups feared this would make them look bad (to the general public), so they ceased allowing namblaites in their parades.

They were concerned not due to the idea of adults promoting adult/kid sexual contact, but that it might harm their push to be accepted by the public.

TigerPaw on November 20, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Maybe Elmo can explain it to you with his squeeky little voice. Of course it happens on the hetero side too. But the gay side is organised through a national organisation that’s somehow allowed to exist even though their agenda is fully open and displayed on the internet. It’s used as a hub and a blue print to guide the gay pedofiles so they can accomplish their goal faster and it gives them a tremendous resource and legitimizes it within their community.

Again you fool, until you point to a hetero equivalent, your whining about generalization is moot.

Go back to work now and find me that site. Until you do, please don’t speak of things you don’t understand.

Elmo out.

NapaConservative on November 20, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Sorry, bro-seph, that’s not how the internet works. Your curious aggression and self-approved right to generalizations is noted, however.

Jeddite on November 20, 2012 at 5:27 PM

The vast majority of criminal pedophilia (which is different than statutory rape) occurs between adult men and underage girls, it occurs within circles of trusts, either a family member or other trusted adult. But conservatives love to pretend that these situations, which is more statutory rape than pedophilia, prove all gay men are pedophiles. Its pretty horrific

libfreeordie on November 20, 2012 at 5:27 PM

How many people at PBS knew and did nothing?

Washington Nearsider on November 20, 2012 at 5:29 PM

Tiger paw

That’s exactly right. Nambla was in ilga until1994, and then only booted out because Jesse helms shed light on it. The1973 gay rights platform has as item 7 the abolition of age of consent laws.

avgjo on November 20, 2012 at 5:31 PM

Sorry, bro-seph, that’s not how the internet works. Your curious aggression and self-approved right to generalizations is noted, however.

Jeddite on November 20, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Come back when you can bring something useful and coherent to the discussion.

NapaConservative on November 20, 2012 at 5:31 PM

The vast majority of criminal pedophilia (which is different than statutory rape) occurs between adult men and underage girls, it occurs within circles of trusts, either a family member or other trusted adult. But conservatives love to pretend that these situations, which is more statutory rape than pedophilia, prove all gay men are pedophiles. Its pretty horrific

libfreeordie on November 20, 2012 at 5:27 PM

You conveniently leave out the fact that most boys who are molested by men go largely unreported due tot he stigma of being accused of being homosexual.

portlandon on November 20, 2012 at 5:31 PM

The vast majority of criminal pedophilia (which is different than statutory rape) occurs between adult men and underage girls, it occurs within circles of trusts, either a family member or other trusted adult. But conservatives love to pretend that these situations, which is more statutory rape than pedophilia, prove all gay men are pedophiles. Its pretty horrific

libfreeordie on November 20, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Source please. (I’m not going to hold my breath)

NapaConservative on November 20, 2012 at 5:32 PM

“personal matters have diverted attention away from

the important work Sesame Street is doing and I cannot allow it to go on any longer.

What important work is Sesame Street doing?

Kjeil on November 20, 2012 at 5:33 PM

What important work is Sesame Street doing?

Kjeil on November 20, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Fleecing the american taxpayer.

NapaConservative on November 20, 2012 at 5:34 PM

Perhaps NapaConservative can just declare that argumentum ad ignorantiam does not apply to this topic. I mean, unless somebody out there has a NMGLA newletter, such a thing cannot and must not exist, and, um… that makes it acceptable to generalize that all homosexuals must be pedophiles. Because, um. Uh.

I guess it’s kinda like Larry Craig – all stuffy, bathroom-going, old white, male Republicans must be… well, y’know.

Jeddite on November 20, 2012 at 5:34 PM

me back when you can bring something useful and coherent to the discussion.

NapaConservative on November 20, 2012 at 5:31 PM

Terribly sorry, ole chap. Your attempts at bullying Jeddite into silence aren’t particularly effective.

Jeddite on November 20, 2012 at 5:35 PM

What were the chances a young black man from Charm City with an unusual childhood penchant for creating characters out of foam and scrap fabric could turn that hobby into a prestigious career?

I understand what you’re aiming for in the piece, but I reject the premise.

rogerb on November 20, 2012 at 5:36 PM

If only we had an institution. You know, one that encouraged gay men to embrace fidelity and commitment … and then told gay men that they should join this institution by giving each other rings as symbols of commitment, and announcing their decision in front of friends and family. Then we could give them partner rights!

Oh wait, that’s actually smart. Excuse me. I forgot we opposed family values.

ZachV on November 20, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Oh, that’s right. It’s everybody elses’ fault that homosexuals will drop their pants and have sex with anyone or thing within reach, on a moment’s notice. They can’t be expected to exhibit any sort of responsibility or decorum unless the rest of the world conforms to their demands.
When you people develop any sort of “family values” that doesn’t include pederasty and pedophilia, perhaps we’ll discuss it.
Until then………………..

Solaratov on November 20, 2012 at 5:37 PM

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