Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on November 18, 2012 by Allahpundit

[C]ould the Romney campaign have done more to make their guy likable when it counted?

I’ve heard a few theories on this from people who either covered the campaign from the outside or were close with those who ran it from the inside. The most widespread explanation is that the campaign made a deliberate decision to limit the resources spent selling Romney-the-man. The thinking was that they couldn’t beat the president on likability in any event, and were better served by selling Romney, to paraphrase Ramesh Ponnuru, as a robot programmed to create jobs. A second, less obvious but perhaps more intriguing, theory is that leading with an account of Romney’s good deeds would have entailed delving deeply into the weeds of Mormonism (because, for example, much of Romney’s personal kindnesses came in his capacity as a church leader, and much of his charitable donations came in the form of tithing) and that this would have opened a whole new can of invertebrates that the campaign wasn’t eager to deal with.

One or both may well be true, and, combined with Romney’s apparent constitutional incapability to pat himself on the back for being a decent human being, they may have made the cuddlization of Romney a dubious strategy. But it isn’t as if the campaign worked to keep the stories secret. It did what it could, in convention testimonials, in YouTube ads, and in the mouths of surrogates (not least Paul Ryan in the nationally televised VP debate, though his boosterism was lost in the vice president’s Nicholsonesque cackling), to spread the word. But it was not preponderating.

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The messy aftermath of his failure suggests that Romney, a political amalgam with no natural constituency beyond the business community, is unlikely to play a significant role in rebuilding his party, many Republicans said this week.

“He’s not going to be running for anything in the future,” said Rep. Raúl R. Labrador (R-Idaho), who sharply criticized Romney’s comments about Hispanics. “He’s not our standard-bearer, unfortunately.”

Romney adviser Stuart Stevens strongly disagreed, calling Romney “the most popular Republican on the national scene at the moment,” given the votes he received on Election Day. Views of defeated candidates can change dramatically over time, Stevens added.

“Even those who have been critical of the campaign on our side realize in the end that Governor Romney was resonating with millions of Americans and was running the kind of campaign we could all be proud of,” Stevens said.

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In the countless hours I spent in Romney’s presence during his first White House run (and mostly from a greater distance during his second bid), I saw a man who was preternaturally upbeat, well-meaning, and kind to just about everyone he encountered, friends and strangers alike.

But I also saw a candidate who seemed by nature almost uniquely ill-equipped to appeal to the young and minority voters who ended up playing a key role in his electoral demise.

Members of the press who traveled with Romney in 2007 and early 2008 began slowly to pick up on what would become an established media narrative by the time Romney was the 2012 front-runner: The former Massachusetts governor didn’t just have a difficult time relating to young and minority voters, he often came across as a walking-talking time warp from the 1950s…

Romney’s overall argument was that he would make the economy better for everyone. But he steadfastly refused to take the next step and make his case on a narrower level, convincing critical demographic groups that he would specifically improve their lives and their communities.

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Romney is being erased with record speed from his party’s books for three reasons. First, many Republicans backed him because they thought he had a good chance of winning; that appeal, obviously, is gone. Second, Romney had shallow roots, and few friends, in the national Republican Party. And those shallow roots have allowed Republicans to give him a new role: As a sort of bad partisan bank, freighted with all the generational positions and postures that they are looking to dump.

“Romney is now a toxic asset to unload,” the historian Jack Bohrer remarked Saturday. “The only interesting thing left to his story is how they dispose of him.”…

There is an irony that Romney, the moderate, will be forced to carry off Todd Akin’s baggage on reproductive rights; Joe Arpaio’s on immigration; and James Dobson on gay rights. But when he cast popular policies as “gifts” to Obama voters (ignoring both his and Obama’s expensive promises to older voters), his decision to, as Bobby Jindal put it, “insult” the demographic groups who are a larger part of each successive electorate offered the Republicans the pivot they had been looking for toward presenting a younger, more diverse, and more inclusive party.

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“If we want people to like us, we have to like them first. And you don’t start to like people by insulting them and saying their votes were bought,” Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, chairman of the Republican Governors Association, told the “Fox News Sunday” program…

Jindal said: “We need to make it very clear – we’re not the party trying to protect the rich. They can protect themselves. We are the party that wants growth, pro-growth policies.”

Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, vice chairman of the Republican Governors Association, also called for a more inclusive message from Republicans…

“We have to show that we are serious about reaching out and helping everyone, not just a group here, not just a group there,” Walker added.

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In 2008, Republicans again preached the gospel of Rove and his allies—Ed Gillespie, Dana Perino, and basically everyone tied to American Crossroads. They told us that only John McCain could defeat this amateur, Barack Obama. Obama was too liberal for the electorate, they said. He had too much baggage. The country liked the Bush administration’s approach more than the “biased” polls let on. McCain was a perfect nominee because he was not an ideologue. (At one point after his loss to Bush in 2000, McCain even flirted with being a Democrat.) This guy was back and forth on so many issues that nobody was ever certain where he might land. That made him an ideal candidate to reach out to moderates and independents. Say, any of that sound familiar?

In 2012, these same people came back again, as overconfident and unchastened as ever. This time, they had most of the right-wing media on their side, regurgitating their views and attitudes to the exclusion of all others. Mitt Romney was the perfect candidate to stop Obama—so much so that anyone who got in his way was immediately attacked and marginalized. Rove used his perch as an “analyst” on Fox News to personally attack not only Newt Gingrich (who I worked for), but Herman Cain, and Sarah Palin, and Rick Perry, and Jon Huntsman, and on and on. So what if Mitt Romney once berated the Republican Party, the Reagan administration, pro-lifers, and the religious right—in other words, his own party’s base. Republicans needed him to win…

When I worked with Rove briefly at the White House, I found him to be a smart, energetic, capable man. Maybe more than I even realized. In the past two election cycles, he and his acolytes have personally helped Barack Obama get elected and yet made millions in the process. You tell me who the dummy is—Rove or the people who keep listening to him and funding him. Come to think of it, who really deserves the blame for what’s befallen the GOP?

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What unites all of these stories is the growing failure of America’s local associations — civic, familial, religious — to foster stability, encourage solidarity and make mobility possible.

This is a crisis that the Republican Party often badly misunderstands, casting Democratic-leaning voters as lazy moochers or spoiled children seeking “gifts” (as a certain former Republican presidential nominee would have it) rather than recognizing the reality of their economic struggles.

But if conservatives don’t acknowledge the crisis’s economic component, liberalism often seems indifferent to its deeper social roots. The progressive bias toward the capital-F Future, the old left-wing suspicion of faith and domesticity, the fact that Democrats have benefited politically from these trends — all of this makes it easy for liberals to just celebrate the emerging America, to minimize the costs of disrupted families and hollowed-out communities, and to treat the places where Americans have traditionally found solidarity outside the state (like the churches threatened by the Obama White House’s contraceptive mandate) as irritants or threats.

This is a great flaw in the liberal vision, because whatever role government plays in prosperity, transfer payments are not a sufficient foundation for middle-class success.

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Via Mediaite.

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only Palin knows how to manipulate the media and use it to her advantage.

renalin on November 19, 2012 at 12:38 AM

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Wow just Wow..:(

Dire Straits on November 19, 2012 at 12:53 AM

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I seen Sarah “outfox” the dominant culture of American Journalists, but that’s not the same thing as “manipulate”.

Manipulate is what the Progressives do.

Manipulate is what the Maurice Strongs and George Soros’ of the World, do.

listens2glenn on November 19, 2012 at 1:10 AM

It advocates Govt. intervention in personal decisions. That is not the governments place. Unless (as you say) private companies do it, that is their right.

Slade73 on November 19, 2012 at 12:02 AM

Using drugs isn’t a personal decision, it’s a decision made in abject ignorance with devastating consequences. It isn’t called addiction for no reason. If you think weed isn’t addictive, then you live in a fantasy world. Yes, I am the voice of EXPERIENCE.

SWalker on November 19, 2012 at 1:11 AM

listens2glenn on November 19, 2012 at 1:10 AM

..:)

PS..Good to see you..:)

Dire Straits on November 19, 2012 at 1:14 AM

SWalker on November 19, 2012 at 1:11 AM

I can almost guarantee that you’ve been an abject failure in other parts of your life as well. Is there a woman in your life? Of course not.

You’re an addict through and through. I feel sorry for people like you. On the flip side it sounds like you’ve found a way to cope with being such a weak-minded addict. It’s unfortunate that you presume others to be as weak as yourself.

The only people who vehemently argue against pot are those who are much more serious addicts who can’t accept that most people don’t lose their minds over being intoxicated. Just because you can’t have a taste without killing yourself doesn’t matter to Liberty. I consume caffeine like nobody’s business. Why not prosecute me too? Idiot.

You’re a phony conservative. And now I know you’re a stone-cold druggie too. I’m glad that you’re not currently using. But it’s only a matter of time for people like you.

I hope you have more than guns to cling too next time that will fails.

Capitalist Hog on November 19, 2012 at 1:19 AM

Want to see a Mittbot in action? Go to the Palin thread in the headlines and just read the hate from mittbot bluegill.

The Mittbots sure can dish it out but freak when some one hints that Mitt lost the election, which he did.

Bluegill hits every Palin thread with vile hatred.

SparkPlug on November 19, 2012 at 12:15 AM

I REALLY came to like Romney!
…you know who I used to look for and enjoy… and someone who had that same kind of loyalty to Palin…that I did not ‘find offensive’?…unseen!
I had to go over every Palin thread no matter how busy I was…to see unseens analysis of why Sarah was doing what…I miss that!…I like your humour Sparky and it is something that is needed here…but I like you when you’re serious too!
Thank You!

KOOLAID2 on November 19, 2012 at 1:23 AM

Weed is addictive.

Hehe.

SparkPlug on November 19, 2012 at 1:24 AM

KOOLAID2 on November 19, 2012 at 1:23 AM

Thanks KOOLAID2. You are really good at beating up Trolls.

(:

SparkPlug on November 19, 2012 at 1:26 AM

I am amazed at how many “Monday Morning Quarterbacks we have??..:)

Dire Straits on November 19, 2012 at 1:26 AM

I am amazed at how many “Monday Morning Quarterbacks” we have??..:)

Dire Straits on November 19, 2012 at 1:26 AM

Fixed..:)

Dire Straits on November 19, 2012 at 1:29 AM

George Will is more like a place kicker. Not a QB.

(:

SparkPlug on November 19, 2012 at 1:29 AM

People talk about “perception” being the problem. People also talk about many other issues that REALLY just boil down to perception. Even the “he’s a moderate so he didn’t stand for anything” attack is a perception problem – as it’s bloody obvious he DID stand for plenty of things; not everything you might like, but don’t lie to me by saying he didn’t stand for anything at all. All this is to say one simple thing:

The mainstream media is the problem.

It’s time we treat them like the enemy they really are. No Republican goes on any mainstream media show under any other impression, and none goes on such programs without being prepared to do battle. And the battle’s not just with the leftist talking points; it’s against the media network you’re appearing on. It’s asinine how Republican officials and talking heads don’t follow the news as much as many people here on Hot Air do. Granted, some go overboard, but I’m not talking about them. The GOP should have all the talking points down pat and know all the news items of the day, ready to expose to the media’s brainwashed audience just how biased the network is. Hold hosts’ feet to the fire. And you don’t need to worry about this ticking the biased networks off so they don’t invite you on again if ALL the Republicans did this, all the time. (Not literally, mind you; you can be friendly when warranted, but there’s plenty of digging yet “polite” ways to point out just how disgusted you are with the media and the people you’re talking to.)

CanofSand on November 19, 2012 at 1:30 AM

SWalker on November 19, 2012

hello!…you guys are being a little rough today!…we had a bad election…this is a good person!
We all have a thing or two that deviates from others…but we’re all brothers!…our problem is the phuckheads who voted for JugEars and the ones who didn’t turn out for a good man no matter their politics!
…lighten up please!…wish you were like that with the progressive trolls!

KOOLAID2 on November 19, 2012 at 1:31 AM

CanofSand on November 19, 2012 at 1:30 AM

Oh, and to those saying “sure, the media’s a big part of the problem but really we just need true conservatives out there”, how the heck do you expect to get real conservatives out front when the “perception problem” allows the media to get away with labeling MCCAIN AND ROMNEY as CRAZY RIGHT-WING IDEOLOGUES? Wake the American people up. Destroy the mainstream media.

CanofSand on November 19, 2012 at 1:33 AM

listens2glenn on November 19, 2012 at 1:10 AM

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..: )

PS..Good to see you..: )

Dire Straits on November 19, 2012 at 1:14 AM

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TOO MUCH MULTI-TASKING . . . . . I’m getting way behind …

Oh … and good to see you, too. : )

listens2glenn on November 19, 2012 at 1:33 AM

I feel so . . . freakish. I’m looking over things. Resist’s mind is just — hot. I’ve never found a woman’s mind hot before. I’ve never even noticed they had them — I swear, I’m normally much more superficial than this. Ask anyone.

Jackie had some great lobes too –

O GOD WHAT’S HAPPENING TO ME

KOOLAID2 on November 19, 2012 at 1:31 AM

Blessed are the peacemakers. :)

Axe on November 19, 2012 at 1:34 AM

KOOLAID2 on November 19, 2012 at 1:23 AM

I admire Romney too.

SparkPlug on November 19, 2012 at 1:35 AM

Destroy the mainstream media.

CanofSand on November 19, 2012 at 1:33 AM

…don’t know you?…haven’t seen that name before…BUTyou’rePHUCKINGright….!!!!

KOOLAID2 on November 19, 2012 at 1:36 AM

listens2glenn on November 19, 2012 at 1:33 AM

Hang in there..:)

Dire Straits on November 19, 2012 at 1:37 AM

I can’t stand Rove. If I could, I would send his book back to him.

Pecos on November 18, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Send it to Fox News; same thing.

FloatingRock on November 19, 2012 at 1:42 AM

you spend a lot more time talking to them
than you do having sex with them…
so a woman with great ‘lobes’ is a plus….

going2mars on November 19, 2012 at 1:44 AM

so a woman with great ‘lobes’ is a plus….

going2mars on November 19, 2012 at 1:44 AM

They talk?

Axe on November 19, 2012 at 1:46 AM

going2mars on November 19, 2012 at 1:44 AM

LoLz..I see what you did there..:)

Dire Straits on November 19, 2012 at 1:46 AM

I feel so . . . freakish. I’m looking over things. Resist’s mind is just — hot. I’ve never found a woman’s mind hot before. I’ve never even noticed they had them — I swear, I’m normally much more superficial than this. Ask anyone.

Axe on November 19, 2012 at 1:34 AM

…there’s a lot of GOOD Libertarians here!
(…after that comment about RWM and Jackie… you are?… typing with two hands?……..right?…don’t let the new obsession get away from you and you lose control only to become a Dr Tesla… sitting at your keyboard in just your socks!)
(:->)

KOOLAID2 on November 19, 2012 at 1:47 AM

and i agree..RWM has great lobes…
and yes axe…some of them talk a little sometimes
ive heard….most are quiet like little church mice…

going2mars on November 19, 2012 at 1:49 AM

the church mouse comment wasnt made to
give you all heart attacks…i was kidding…

going2mars on November 19, 2012 at 2:00 AM

They talk?

Axe on November 19, 2012 at 1:46 AM

lol

I love a woman with great pipes, especially when they are nice to look at, too! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRF_FR4FUDU

Anti-Control on November 19, 2012 at 2:03 AM

People don’t want good governance, they want a good campaign. They don’t care how good the candidate would be at actually governing, they just care about how the marketing campaign went.

Sad.

crosspatch on November 19, 2012 at 2:09 AM

SWalker on November 19, 2012 at 1:11 AM

I can almost guarantee that you’ve been an abject failure in other parts of your life as well. Is there a woman in your life? Of course not.

You’re an addict through and through. I feel sorry for people like you. On the flip side it sounds like you’ve found a way to cope with being such a weak-minded addict. It’s unfortunate that you presume others to be as weak as yourself.

The only people who vehemently argue against pot are those who are much more serious addicts who can’t accept that most people don’t lose their minds over being intoxicated. Just because you can’t have a taste without killing yourself doesn’t matter to Liberty. I consume caffeine like nobody’s business. Why not prosecute me too? Idiot.

You’re a phony conservative. And now I know you’re a stone-cold druggie too. I’m glad that you’re not currently using. But it’s only a matter of time for people like you.

I hope you have more than guns to cling too next time that will fails.

Capitalist Hog on November 19, 2012 at 1:19 AM

You are quite the arrogant imbecile. I’m a retired rock star, been clean 12 years. Abject failure, yea, NOT.

SWalker on November 19, 2012 at 2:15 AM

He would have made a great president. The pundits be damned. The people heckling from the sidelines mean less than nothing to me.

echosyst on November 19, 2012 at 2:17 AM

You are quite the arrogant imbecile. I’m a retired rock star, been clean 12 years. Abject failure, yea, NOT.

SWalker on November 19, 2012 at 2:15 AM

Here man. :) May be lame, but . . . the best I could do . . .

Axe on November 19, 2012 at 2:20 AM

I love a woman with great pipes, especially when they are nice to look at, too! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRF_FR4FUDU

Anti-Control on November 19, 2012 at 2:03 AM

Nice!

Axe on November 19, 2012 at 2:23 AM

He would have made a great president. The pundits be damned. The people heckling from the sidelines mean less than nothing to me.

echosyst on November 19, 2012 at 2:17 AM

…you ain’t the Lone Ranger!

KOOLAID2 on November 19, 2012 at 2:27 AM

Interesting – I voted for Romney…..it would EVEN EASIER to cast THIS vote:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-allen-palin-for-president-20121118,0,1525685.story

williamg on November 18, 2012 at 11:22 PM

Wow. Great article. That’s from the L.A. Times? I don’t know much about that writer but I’d usually be very suspicious about her intentions there. Maybe she thinks Palin would be a sure thing to lose, or that injecting this kind of talk into the Republican dialogue will help divide people, or something. Again, not sure of her real motives.

Anyway, yeah I’d be behind that ticket. But from how it looks now, the GOP is getting an early start on just trying to be liked by everyone. Ain’t lookin’good.

Dongemaharu on November 19, 2012 at 2:29 AM

You are assuming Obama actually won rather than pulled off the greatest voter fraud in American History. Serious Question here… What if….

SWalker on November 18, 2012 at 9:04 PM

So after all of these months of falsely accusing me of being a conspiracy nut, SWalker, in fact you’re the conspiracy nut! You POS!

FloatingRock on November 19, 2012 at 2:31 AM

Funny how you get pushed around when you roll with it. Was looking for something Slavic ’cause of Peterman and then something Christmas oriented cause of all the negative waves and then wanted to pull some water out of SWalker since he was being dried out . . .

YouTube = Mississippi River delta.

echosyst on November 19, 2012 at 2:17 AM

…you ain’t the Lone Ranger!

KOOLAID2 on November 19, 2012 at 2:27 AM

Heh — Noticed that. :)

Axe on November 19, 2012 at 2:34 AM

Nice!

Axe on November 19, 2012 at 2:23 AM

You weren’t thinking about the lines from that song, “so I bend over again” and “I’m on my knees once again” lewdly when you said that, were you?

No one should sexualize these lines from this song, either http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xEcxqBWpQQ&feature=related

I let you squeeze the trigger
I even helped you hold the gun
I turned my back and you fired

Anti-Control on November 19, 2012 at 2:57 AM

I’ve heard a few theories on this from people who either covered the campaign from the outside or were close with those who ran it from the inside. The most widespread explanation is that the campaign made a deliberate decision to limit the resources spent selling Romney-the-man. The thinking was that they couldn’t beat the president on likability in any event, and were better served by selling Romney, to paraphrase Ramesh Ponnuru, as a robot programmed to create jobs.

Pepsi can’t beat coke on likeability so they should limit their resources spent on selling the product based on taste and focus on the fact that it’s available from vending machines.

SparkPlug on November 19, 2012 at 4:10 AM

I couldn’t believe that a majority of posters here are not able to figure out what Jindal and Walker is saying.

If you look at the subjects here can you point out a single conservative policy that Romney implemented during his term as governor (think Obamacare, Gay marriage, increasing ‘fees’ ……)? On the other hand Jindal and Walker are conservatives that has fought for the cause.

Only difference here is that they are from the middle class and do not like to bash middle class Americans. There are lot of republicans, who due to the policies of this president (job killing to be specific) have had to take some sort of government assistance. To ridicule them for what they are doing (and they are already ashamed) is bluntly speaking, cruel. 38% of the 47% voted Romney in case you want the numbers. Republicans instead of bashing them as the 47% must state how the free market policies are going to pull them out of their situation. As Jindal said America is an aspirational nation and republican party is an aspirational party.

As for what Martinez said, what she said is entirely different from what Jindal and Walker said. What she wants is for elected officials to look like their community. Which means pure racism. On the other hand Jindal stated clearly that we ought to be color blind and not pander to races.

In conclusion let every poster remember the words of a great man and understand what Jindal and Walker are saying and what Romney is not

Whatever else history may say about me when I’m gone, I hope it will record that I appealed to your best hopes, not your worst fears; to your confidence rather than your doubts.

CoolAir on November 19, 2012 at 4:19 AM

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/60739_488219264533158_1963910734_n.jpg

out and out fraud is why romney lost…

romney votes defaulted to obama votes…
https://www.facebook.com/ObamaVoterFraudVolunteers

mrks on November 19, 2012 at 4:27 AM

http://pjmedia.com/blog/ohio-post-mortem-glitz-gimmicks-sleight-of-hand-and-witnessing-fraud/
gimmicks, sleight of hand, and, possibly, through voter fraud.

Tuesday, my confidence in our Ohio voting system was undermined in a way that I never expected. I saw a voting machine change votes from Romney to Obama. When reports first surfaced last week of machines switching votes in Ohio, I was mildly concerned, but thought perhaps it was a fluke or even a conspiracy theory.

But then I personally witnessed a TSX voting machine changing votes from Romney (and other Republican candidates) to Obama (and other Democrats) right before my eyes. The first time it happened, the voter loudly announced it to everyone in the precinct. When there is a problem with a voting machine, two poll workers (from opposite parties) must investigate. We saw that his screen had recorded that he had voted for Obama.

Of course we could not prove that he had not pressed the screen to vote for Obama. We cancelled the ballot and he voted again without incident. I reported the problem immediately to the Wayne County Board of Elections (BOE). It was suggested that the voter’s sleeve may have been interfering with the touchscreen, causing him to inadvertently vote for candidates he wasn’t intending to vote for. I was told by the elections official that they “were running into that with a lot of male voters.”

Then a second voter reported a problem with a different machine. The voter said that the machine would not let her vote for Republican candidates. She had chosen Republican candidates on the screen and the machine changed them all to Democrats when she submitted them. I suggested she hit the “back” button to see what would happen if she tried it again. I watched as she again chose Republican candidates and the machine again changed the Republican candidates to Democrats.

I saw it, the voter saw it, and the Democratic poll worker saw it.
I was also on the phone with the BOE official at the time it happened, so she heard the play-by-play as it was happening. We shut both machines down immediately, and the BOE sent us two replacements.

I felt sick to see this happen, knowing it could be occurring in any number of machines across the state. How widespread was the problem? How many of the 40-plus ballots that had been cast on these machines had changed votes, unnoticed? Many people are uncomfortable with the touchscreens, especially senior citizens. They may not have noticed votes changing (or may have been embarrassed to ask for assistance).

Was there a conspiracy to steal votes? I have no idea. It may have just been that the machines are aging and they are not working correctly. Or it may have been a couple of buggy machines. Whatever the reason, I can’t say with confidence that the votes on the TSX machines were an accurate measure of the votes cast on Tuesday. I’m left confused and conflicted about how to process what I witnessed.

At minimum, there ought to be an investigation and an examination of each and every voting machine to determine how this could have happened and to assure that it is never repeated. Voters need to be confident that their vote is recorded accurately every time.

mrks on November 19, 2012 at 4:31 AM

Dongemaharu on November 19, 2012 at 2:29 AM

The people who most want Palin to run for president, besides the dwindling group of Palin worshipers represented in the comment sections of sites like this one, are Democrats. Why do Democrats want Palin to run? Because she would guarantee a landslide general election victory for the Democrat. A large portion of the country, including many conservatives, don’t even think the former half-term Alaska governor is qualified to be president.

bluegill on November 19, 2012 at 5:13 AM

good morning HA

enough mitt bashing for the love of pete…yes, I was a perry chick during the primaries, but mitt was our candidate and he lost…our folks did not come out to vote and yes, I believe there was some shenanigans at the polls

but maybe this is a good thing, our country is going down hill and it’ll all be placed on dear leaders shoulders despite what the history books will say

cmsinaz on November 19, 2012 at 5:40 AM

listens2glenn on November 19, 2012 at 12:42 AM</blockquote

I hope you are right, but I believe things have changed for the worse: nothing to do with suiting me.

Sherman1864 on November 19, 2012 at 6:02 AM

Mornin’, peeps. For those of you who keep blaming “Socons”, i.e., Christian American Conservatives, like nathor does, you may want to avoid this. My take.

kingsjester on November 19, 2012 at 6:37 AM

kingsjester on November 19, 2012 at 6:37 AM

*shaking the head*

we continue down the slippery slope

cmsinaz on November 19, 2012 at 6:44 AM

cmsinaz on November 19, 2012 at 6:44 AM

Yes ma’am, according to the before-mentioned Troll, I shouldn’t even be quoting Scripture on my Blog Posts.

“Free speech for me but non for thee.”

kingsjester on November 19, 2012 at 6:50 AM

kingsjester on November 19, 2012 at 6:50 AM

seriously? wow

cmsinaz on November 19, 2012 at 6:53 AM

msinaz on November 19, 2012 at 6:53 AM

Yep. Go read the Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread.

kingsjester on November 19, 2012 at 6:55 AM

Mornin’, peeps. For those of you who keep blaming “Socons”, i.e., Christian American Conservatives, like nathor does, you may want to avoid this. My take.

Nothing wrong with socons. As long as they don’t morph into the American Taliban – morality police.

MSimon on November 19, 2012 at 6:56 AM

Let’s see now, would we be more apt to vote for guy that is “likable” that promises to tighten our belt and be responsible or would we be more apt to vote for the “likable guy” that gives us free everything (including guilt free sin?)

It’s the free candy folks–sex, abortion, free checks for loathing around, envy, Obama-phones, or..gasp…responsible living.

Until the GOP deals with the deliberately and systematically corrupted culture, all the money talk remains secondary to the selfish irresponsible voters. My gosh, 70% of the Hispanics (Catholics?) voted for a man who aggressively demands abortion, government forced contraception, gay marriage and feel free to envy and hate the successful, while the GOP thought that economic lessons would win?

Don L on November 19, 2012 at 6:58 AM

Yes ma’am, according to the before-mentioned Troll, I shouldn’t even be quoting Scripture on my Blog Posts.
“Free speech for me but non for thee.”
kingsjester on November 19, 2012 at 6:50 AM

Seems to me that the city is at fault for not allowing any displays. Who cares if somebody wants to put up an atheist display? Let them. Yes, it is obnoxious, mean-spirited and unnecessarily provocative, but they should have the right to do it. It shouldn’t be too hard to set up some kind of lottery or registration system for groups that want to display during the holiday season. Especially since there is a tradition of these kinds of displays in that city, it seems like they should’ve been able to reach some sort of resolution other than banning everything.

bluegill on November 19, 2012 at 6:58 AM

Nothing wrong with socons. As long as they don’t morph into the American Taliban – morality police.
MSimon on November 19, 2012 at 6:56 AM

The problem comes when we start getting candidates like Todd Akin or Mike Huckabee who sometimes act like they are running for church president, not a government position meant to represent all.

bluegill on November 19, 2012 at 7:04 AM

bluegill on November 19, 2012 at 5:13 AM

Shut up!

Just. Shut. Up.

You’re always running your mouth about Palin being “unelectable.”

Mitt Romney has run for office 4 times, he won ONCE.

Palin has run for office 4 times, she won THREE times.

Even in the race she lost, she and McCain still got more votes than Romney. And it has already been established that McCain wouldn’t have gotten the number of votes he got without Palin on the ticket with him.

But you know what? I don’t place all of the blame for Romney’s loss on him. I place a great deal of it on people like YOU!

You were the leader of the pack here when it came to attacking, yes, attacking, anyone who dared to support a different primary candidate or voice concern about Romney’s conservative record. Including making vile and disgusting comments and accusations about Ed Morrissey, something that would have gotten you banned on many other forums.

Even several long time and loyal Romney supporters tried to warn you that your tactics would more likely alienate people to Romney rather than draw them to him, but it just wouldn’t sink into that hateful attitude you took such pride in displaying.

So tell us gilled one, how many less people showed up at the polls this year, compared to 2008? You think some people really meant it when they said they were just going to stay home as a result of the brow-beating that pervaded forums and comment sections all across the political spectrum from people like you?

What was even more disgustingly hypocritical was after Romney had locked up the nomination and all of a sudden you wanted to buddy up and play nice nice with those who you had viciously attacked because, “we’re all on the same side now.”

When contemplating the reasons why the candidate you claimed to be a sure winner lost, you can look no further than your own mirror for one of those reasons.

#WAR

Flora Duh on November 19, 2012 at 7:11 AM

Flora Duh on November 19, 2012 at 7:11 AM

Owww. That’s gonna leave a mark. Bullseye.

kingsjester on November 19, 2012 at 7:18 AM

Why do I have to shut up? Why can’t we just respectfully disagree about Palin’s electability?

And, for the record, I didn’t attack “all” the other candidates. I was really only critical of Perry (after his revealing meltdown), Newt and Santorum, for the most part. I was very much against these particular candidates because I saw them as extremely weak general election contenders.

Now, I don’t recall you ever once uttering so much as a peep about the avalanche of bile that was dumped on anyone who supported Romney on this website. Yes, this website was “bash Mitt” 24/7 for months on end. And you are still smarting over, what, a couple Romney supporters who had the gall to argue back and defend their preferred candidate in a brash manner? Give me a break.

bluegill on November 19, 2012 at 7:22 AM

I came to like Mitt Romney as a man, and a good man he is.

His business acumen I’ve had doubts about and his ability to select good personnel at a few points in his business career.

The record he brought to the table was being the early creator of healthcare that Obama would model have Obamacare modeled on, which was a direct attack to undermine Mitt Romney and take the Obamacare issue off the table. Mitt Romney could not offer up a stark contrast or even be introspective enough to sit down with voters and explain why MA health care that he signed into law wasn’t safeguarded against future poor decisions and why he signed such ill-created ideas into law. A Governor is to look out for the welfare of the State he or she governs, and when poor legislation that is unworkable, flawed or deeply destructive to the long-term needs of the State are given to you, the job is to remove those problems or to veto such legislation and let the legislature over-ride you and take the fall for such poorly crafted law.

By being ‘bi-partisan’ and ‘working across the aisle’ and not putting forth principles of stewardship, thrift, and leaving power in the hands of the people, Mitt Romney was ill-suited to offer a contrast to Obama. Worse is that by backing Medicare and Medicaid, they made their platform on entitlements and supporting them. The contrast to a party that wants entitlements to the destruction of the economy and society is NOT to be an entitlement-lite party, but to offer a contrast and talk about the ill of putting such ‘good feelings’ into the necessary evil of government. Yes you can’t dine out on liberty, but government can and will dine out on you when you give it up and your ability to actually care for yourself to government.

These were not winning arguments.

And as the voting population that actually turned out was so close to 50% or actually less, the clear statement from such a population is that NEITHER OF THESE PARTIES can get a mandate even if EVERYONE who turns out to vote with such low turnout chooses all one way or the other. Both parties are LOSERS.

I do like Mitt Romney the man. Mitt Romney the Governor trying to put charitable ideas to work inside government forgets his own roots of where charity begins: at home. Not in government. I was more than willing to vote for a man who just might put the blood clotting agents into the open chest wound that is our economy and our government spending decisions. Those wounds cannot be sealed when the class warfare and entitlement culture is at work in BOTH PARTIES.

The two parties are now both rump parties.

The first one that offers a clear and coherent contrast to the entitlement society offered by the elite will begin to win votes and attract people back to the polls. Until that stark contrast is presented coherently, supported in the face of duplicitous and class-warfare based attacks and attacks on the morals of those presenting them and turning on the questioner to ask how they can see into the hearts of men… until that point comes we will continue on this path to destruction. Because ‘winning’ an election with candidates going more slowly to Hell does not get you off the road to Hell. And we are now on that road and in overdrive thanks to those who place ‘electability’ over offering a clear contrast in vision to support human liberty and freedom and saying ‘you can do better without government help that turns you into a subject’. Apparently telling you that you NEED and REQUIRE government to do these things is no longer getting a majority to turn out. So you can be give-away BIG or give-away LITE but give-away is no longer the political attractant it once was. Maybe Republicans and Tea Partiers can get a new message out and offer that contrast in the next 2 years.

Mind you the Elites in both parties will now fight this to the bitter end as all they care about is power. Not human liberty.

ajacksonian on November 19, 2012 at 7:23 AM

now is about the time I strongly suggest legalizing marijuana. All the establishment can whine about amnesty and lose the next election and who knows how many after that.

or they can legalize a perfectly harmless substance that costs us mountains of cash to ruin young people’s lives for no reason. Just imagine if the Kenyan Wonderboy had been caught? Then we wouldn’t have his totally awesome policies to plunge us into a double dip (and I don’t mean Sundae)

Slade73 on November 19, 2012 at 7:26 AM

kingsjester on November 19, 2012 at 7:18 AM

I don’t excuse those who stayed home because their feelings were hurt. They deserve whatever happens during the next 4 years.

My grandchildren don’t.

Flora Duh on November 19, 2012 at 7:27 AM

Flora Duh on November 19, 2012 at 7:11 AM

You really have a way with words, Flora. Bravo!

Naturally Curly on November 19, 2012 at 7:27 AM

Give me a break.

bluegill on November 19, 2012 at 7:22 AM

I agree bluegill, you done good. Even though I can’t stand Romney.

Slade73 on November 19, 2012 at 7:28 AM

furthermore, Go Newt

(until he started agreeing with Ed on amnesty :)

Slade73 on November 19, 2012 at 7:31 AM

Flora Duh on November 19, 2012 at 7:27 AM

Nether do I. However, the vast majority of Reagan Conservatives did get out and vote, holding their noses and supporting Gov. Romney.

But, he did get less votes than McCain. Why was that?

kingsjester on November 19, 2012 at 7:32 AM

or they can legalize a perfectly harmless substance that costs us mountains of cash to ruin young people’s lives for no reason. Just imagine if the Kenyan Wonderboy had been caught? Then we wouldn’t have his totally awesome policies to plunge us into a double dip (and I don’t mean Sundae)
Slade73 on November 19, 2012 at 7:26 AM

Yes, it would be a good idea to consider “evolving” on the pot issue, but not on amnesty. For gay marriage, I say national candidates should support allowing individual states’ voters (not judges) to decide for themselves. No more proposals for constitutional amendments regarding marriage, which would never happen anyway. But when it comes to amnesty, the Republicans should stand for enforcing current immigration laws and securing the border. But they need to do it in a way that reminds people that we are a pro immigrant party.

bluegill on November 19, 2012 at 7:33 AM

But, he did get less votes than McCain. Why was that?

kingsjester on November 19, 2012 at 7:32 AM

affluent Pubs who didn’t care, and SoCons who don’t believe Joe Smith is the prophet of all prophets…and Obama depressed the vote along with a little fraud for giggles

Slade73 on November 19, 2012 at 7:35 AM

Have a good day, everyone! It is time for me to earn a living.

bluegill on November 19, 2012 at 7:35 AM

Mitt Romney said that he wasn’t going to get the votes of the 47% and the Democratic Party made sure that didn’t happen. How many wards in Chicago and Philadelphia had zero Romney votes? Was it voter fraud or did all the Democrats have to say is, “Why should you vote for Romney he doesn’t want you vote and thinks he can win without it?”

Look, Romney wasn’t treated fairly but, aside from his infamous 47% remark, he kept Sarah Palin sitting in Alaska. How many of those people who stayed home, might have come out if Sarah Palin had asked them to vote for Romney? The Democrats have convinced Republicans they have a “right-wing problem”. Well, consider this is the same Democrats who turned, who may have been the most decent guy we could have run for President, in a ruthless man to the right of Attila the Hun. Now step back and think about how you really need to utilize all your assets to beat the Democrats.

If the Republicans don’t deal with the left wing media complex, they may never win another national election.

bflat879 on November 19, 2012 at 7:35 AM

…there’s a lot of GOOD Libertarians here!
(…after that comment about RWM and Jackie… you are?… typing with two hands?……..right?…don’t let the new obsession get away from you and you lose control only to become a Dr Tesla… sitting at your keyboard in just your socks!)(:->)

KOOLAID2 on November 19, 2012 at 1:47 AM

AAAHHHHH….my eyes! NO NO NO NO NO NO

wolfplus3 on November 19, 2012 at 7:36 AM

Why can’t we just respectfully disagree about Palin’s electability?

bluegill on November 19, 2012 at 7:22 AM

You don’t know the meaning of the term.

#WAR

I came to like Mitt Romney as a man, and a good man he is.

ajacksonian on November 19, 2012 at 7:23 AM

I agree, and I would have been proud to call him Mr. President. That’s something I wasn’t expecting to happen this time last year.

Flora Duh on November 19, 2012 at 7:36 AM

CYA Bluegill, have fun

Slade73 on November 19, 2012 at 7:37 AM

Thanks, slade73! I do get worked up on here sometimes, and I know that I probably should sometimes word things in a better way. Sometimes what I write comes off a bit harsh, harsher than I really intend it to. Anyway, now I really am off for the day. See you all later

bluegill on November 19, 2012 at 7:38 AM

Flora Duh on November 19, 2012 at 7:11 AM
Owww. That’s gonna leave a mark. Bullseye.
kingsjester on November 19, 2012 at 7:18 AM

I know. Images of Palin beating that halibut to death come to mind. I was all set to reply, but it would pale in comparison.

Dongemaharu on November 19, 2012 at 7:43 AM

kingsjester on November 19, 2012 at 6:37 AM
First time I’ve looked at your blog there KJ. Do believe I’ve
found another place to visit….. Bravo Zulu!

wolfplus3 on November 19, 2012 at 7:49 AM

Flora Duh on November 19, 2012 at 7:11 AM

We certainly were correct to be wary. If I were bluegill, I would be embarrassed to show my scales around here- LOL!

Night Owl on November 19, 2012 at 7:52 AM

bluegill off to work. good.

whether her nasty little self likes it or not, Sarah will rise again.

btw was watching smarmy rubio at branstads party. what a total loser. and all the bragging about allllllll the money he dragged in.

idiots. you don’t need money. you need a message. that was something romney or bluegill never understood.

renalin on November 19, 2012 at 7:54 AM

Can we put a moratorium on eating our own, at least for 1 day. Lay blame where it belongs—a lapdog media and an ignorant electorate.

hillsoftx on November 19, 2012 at 7:54 AM

I’m not gonna be nasty, cause I like the Sarah.

But she’d never win the presidency. Reality TV hosts are out of the question, even though she’s on of the few good women whom don’t vote for lady parts. Geez, the Dems have destroyed Feminism. Now one of the most powerful women in the world (Susan Rice) needs her honor defended by an outraged Obama.

Slade73 on November 19, 2012 at 8:00 AM

I like Jester’s blog, but they’re a little too Christiany for me, even though I’m a Christian. I just think the electorate is moving further and further from the SoCon monopoly.

Slade73 on November 19, 2012 at 8:02 AM

When contemplating the reasons why the candidate you claimed to be a sure winner lost, you can look no further than your own mirror for one of those reasons.

#WAR

Flora Duh on November 19, 2012 at 7:11 AM

Right with you, Flora!

#WAR

Fallon on November 19, 2012 at 8:10 AM

Lay blame where it belongs—a lapdog media and an ignorant electorate.

hillsoftx on November 19, 2012 at 7:54 AM

I’ve been battling the lapdog media for over a year, but until they get hurt where they feel it, nothing will change.

We need a concentrated effort, by many, not a few, against the companies that advertise with them. That includes phone calls, emails, handwritten letters, social media, protesting in front of their companies, etc.

Until the media is taken down, the electorate will remain ignorant.

Flora Duh on November 19, 2012 at 8:12 AM

Once again we see a bunch of talking heads in the Quotes of the Day section completely missing the obvious. If we’re looking for someone to blame, it’s not necessarily Romney or Republicans in general… it’s We The People.

Self-rule depends upon an educated and moral populace which takes its civic responsibility seriously. That’s not a definition which really describe today’s average voter. We live in a country in which most citizens, when asked what their system of government is would answer, “a democracy”. How sad is that? A democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for lunch. It’s mob rule, tyranny of the 51% over the other 49%, and it only lasts for as long as the treasury does. People don’t know who the players are, what they really stand for, or even what their rights ought to be or why. A huge percentage of them don’t even bother to show up at the polls. And there’s really no excuse for it when information is easier to access than ever before. We’re no longer dependent upon what the above-mentioned talking heads tell us.

We have tolerated ignorance and propaganda for generations now, and if we have lost everything that made this country “exceptional” as I believe we have, it seems a bit of a stretch to try to blame all that on one guy.

Murf76 on November 19, 2012 at 8:17 AM

bluegill off to work. good.

renalin on November 19, 2012 at 7:54 AM

You’ve got a lot of room to talk.

You are just as guilty of attempting to suppress the morale of people voting for Romney as bluegill was in driving people away.

Even after most people here, including many hardcore Palin supporters, realized that our only chance of taking back the WH was to get behind Romney and do all we could to get him elected, you were on here almost daily saying everything you could to shoot him down and demoralize the troops.

It was only in the final weeks before the election you decided to hop on the Romney bandwagon. Now that he’s lost you’re right back where were before, so spare us the feigned attempt at indignation.

Flora Duh on November 19, 2012 at 8:27 AM

some of them talk a little sometimes
ive heard….most are quiet like little church mice…

going2mars on November 19, 2012 at 1:49 AM

LOL, going2mars . . .

But some of us are gregarious, agnostic warf rats. You’re hanging out at the wrong watering holes. : )

TheClearRiver on November 19, 2012 at 8:28 AM

Stacey Dash on the View was absolutely disgusting. Not just because they all ganged up on her for her Romney endorsement, but because Dash advocated Amnesty.

There ya go. Every Pub who is also somewhat SLOW in the brain wants comprehensive immigration reform – a three word term for Amnesty.

Slade73 on November 19, 2012 at 8:39 AM

Flora Duh on November 19, 2012 at 7:11 AM

Owww. That’s gonna leave a mark. Bullseye.

kingsjester on November 19, 2012 at 7:18 AM

…along with SKID MARKS!

KOOLAID2 on November 19, 2012 at 8:59 AM

Why can’t we just respectfully disagree about Palin’s electability?

bluegill on November 19, 2012 at 7:22 AM

You don’t know the meaning of the term.

Bulls eye …

the panfish needs to just STFD and STFU….
I think I may start treating it like a troll and ignoring it …

conservative tarheel on November 19, 2012 at 9:00 AM

Flora Duh on November 19, 2012 at 8:27 AM

…I love it when you are in this kind of mood! (:->)

KOOLAID2 on November 19, 2012 at 9:02 AM

How pathetic is the gop that we have to resort to a 1/2 term governor that is “Reagan in a Dress”?

…can you imagine putting hopes for the next three years in someone that already said “no thanks” after leading people along until the very last minute (October)?

Who wants to play that game again?

……….but look at who the DC Insiders are putting up as potential nominees? Squishes.

Sorry, not playing. If Palin wants to run she would have kicked it off last October.

PappyD61 on November 19, 2012 at 9:07 AM

Romney adviser Stuart Stevens strongly disagreed, calling Romney “the most popular Republican on the national scene at the moment,”

This is like saying people actually voted for McCain in 2008.

#fail #fail #fail

PappyD61 on November 19, 2012 at 9:08 AM

Flora Duh on November 19, 2012 at 8:27 AM

in the end i was proven right. i held my nose and voted even though romney stunk up the joint.

renalin on November 19, 2012 at 9:45 AM

Mitt Romney said that he wasn’t going to get the votes of the 47% and the Democratic Party made sure that didn’t happen. How many wards in Chicago and Philadelphia had zero Romney votes? Was it voter fraud or did all the Democrats have to say is, “Why should you vote for Romney he doesn’t want you vote and thinks he can win without it?”

Look, Romney wasn’t treated fairly but, aside from his infamous 47% remark, he kept Sarah Palin sitting in Alaska. How many of those people who stayed home, might have come out if Sarah Palin had asked them to vote for Romney? The Democrats have convinced Republicans they have a “right-wing problem”. Well, consider this is the same Democrats who turned, who may have been the most decent guy we could have run for President, in a ruthless man to the right of Attila the Hun. Now step back and think about how you really need to utilize all your assets to beat the Democrats.

If the Republicans don’t deal with the left wing media complex, they may never win another national election.

bflat879 on November 19, 2012 at 7:35 AM

You are 100% correct. Its always nice to read postings from
people who actually get what is going on!!!

However, I still think the loss was due
to massive voter fraud. obamavoterfraudblogspot.com for info.

Back to Palin. She has been terribly quiet for months other than
her gig on Fox. Although she endorsed and stumped for a few
candidates early (Ted Cruz in Tx comes to mind), she has not been
seen nor heard from. Wonder what is going on there?

Back to repubs. My opinion is that the democrats are mostly all
dirty cheats, socialist/marxist/communist idiots. The repub
organization is still run by rinos, pretty much the same as above.
Example: Chris Christie slobbering all over Obama a few days
prior to the election. Also, what Rubio and Jindhal are doing
to Romney now, despicable is the only word for it. Did I read
that Walker in Wi. joined in this Romney slamfest?

The other side of the repubs are the conservatives. The party is not united. Thus, either the conservatives have to kick the rinos to the curb or start anew. Neither option would be pretty or easy, also too time consuming and the one thing we don’t have is time.

Who knows the answer. However, something needs to be
done.

Amjean on November 19, 2012 at 10:10 AM

You Palin Haters are a cancer. Your vitriol drove Palin away by enthusiastically endorsing the attacks on her by the media. Too bad you drove her supporters all the way out of the election. Nice job.

SurferDoc on November 19, 2012 at 11:16 AM

bluegill on November 19, 2012 at 5:13 AM

Shut up!

Just. Shut. Up.

You’re always running your mouth about Palin being “unelectable.”

Mitt Romney has run for office 4 times, he won ONCE.

Palin has run for office 4 times, she won THREE times.

Even in the race she lost, she and McCain still got more votes than Romney. And it has already been established that McCain wouldn’t have gotten the number of votes he got without Palin on the ticket with him.

But you know what? I don’t place all of the blame for Romney’s loss on him. I place a great deal of it on people like YOU!

You were the leader of the pack here when it came to attacking, yes, attacking, anyone who dared to support a different primary candidate or voice concern about Romney’s conservative record. Including making vile and disgusting comments and accusations about Ed Morrissey, something that would have gotten you banned on many other forums.

Even several long time and loyal Romney supporters tried to warn you that your tactics would more likely alienate people to Romney rather than draw them to him, but it just wouldn’t sink into that hateful attitude you took such pride in displaying.

So tell us gilled one, how many less people showed up at the polls this year, compared to 2008? You think some people really meant it when they said they were just going to stay home as a result of the brow-beating that pervaded forums and comment sections all across the political spectrum from people like you?

What was even more disgustingly hypocritical was after Romney had locked up the nomination and all of a sudden you wanted to buddy up and play nice nice with those who you had viciously attacked because, “we’re all on the same side now.”

When contemplating the reasons why the candidate you claimed to be a sure winner lost, you can look no further than your own mirror for one of those reasons.

#WAR

Flora Duh on November 19, 2012 at 7:11 AM

Perfect and so True. Well said.

SparkPlug on November 19, 2012 at 11:45 AM

It also explicitly illustrates why this very post from Allahpundit is the LEAST helpful thing one could do.

Thank you.

williamg on November 18, 2012 at 10:33 PM

How do you know that AP doesn’t agree with you? Maybe he thinks all this hand wringing in public is counter productive? Is acknowledgement of the existence of these articles a sign of agreement or just something to discuss?

Cindy Munford on November 19, 2012 at 12:01 PM

“If a man has to wonder whether he’s an alpha male or not, he’s probably not one.”

Obama is a man-child who would have lost to an Alpha Male, but noooooo
The GOP serves up a Beta Male of their own who doesn’t work out.
Physical activity is for the illegal aliens who mow his expansive lawns.
Yawn
~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on November 19, 2012 at 12:32 PM

It also explicitly illustrates why this very post from Allahpundit is the LEAST helpful thing one could do.

Thank you.

williamg on November 18, 2012 at 10:33 PM

How do you know that AP doesn’t agree with you? Maybe he thinks all this hand wringing in public is counter productive? Is acknowledgement of the existence of these articles a sign of agreement or just something to discuss?

Cindy Munford on November 19, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Okay Cindy – ou’re “playing nice”, so I will, too.

I KNOW that Allahpundit is being unhelpful because I have watched him for 8 years or more – and THIS is what he does: He INCITES for The Enemy.

He is “Giving Oxygen” to the Arguments that Contirbute to TEARING the GOP apart, and implicitly siding with the “tear them apart” side, by posting THIS – INSTEAD of a straight-up indictment of Obama – which I have NEVER seen him do, and which I am not holding my breath for him to do anytime soon. He is like Laura Ingraham: He spends MUCH MORE energy Criticizing and “Giving Voice” to the Criticism of Conservatives and Republicans – than he does ATTACKING the Liberal Flagship.

I also know from the RESULT of his actions: The RESULT was PAGES AND PAGES of people Tearing Apart other Conservatives. He KNEW that’s what this Post would solicit – and THAT is why he did it.

As someone, I believe it was JPeterson, said earlier: he is INSULTING THE INTELLIGENCE of Hot Air Readers by Continuing with his own, personally-created “Beating A Dead Horse” campaign.

The only thing missing was his typical: “I HAAAAAAATE mmmBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!!!” rant.

THAT is how I KNOW. Take care, Cindy – you seem well-intentioned, with a good soul and heart.

williamg on November 19, 2012 at 12:48 PM

SparkPlug on November 19, 2012 at 11:45 AM

I’m giving that my…….

+ One Trillion

Karl Magnus on November 19, 2012 at 12:32 PM

Gov. Palin may be the only Alpha Male in the Republican party. /sorta

Cindy Munford on November 19, 2012 at 12:48 PM

williamg on November 19, 2012 at 12:48 PM

LOL! I try. It’s not the I don’t agree with you, there are all sorts of people I wish would just shut up. Figure out what went wrong in private and fix it. Not that I think they actually know. Truly looking like the Bad News Bears at this point.

Cindy Munford on November 19, 2012 at 12:51 PM

bluegill on November 19, 2012 at 5:13 AM
Shut up!

Just. Shut. Up.

You’re always running your mouth about Palin being “unelectable.”

Mitt Romney has run for office 4 times, he won ONCE.

Palin has run for office 4 times, she won THREE times.

Even in the race she lost, she and McCain still got more votes than Romney. And it has already been established that McCain wouldn’t have gotten the number of votes he got without Palin on the ticket with him.

But you know what? I don’t place all of the blame for Romney’s loss on him. I place a great deal of it on people like YOU!

You were the leader of the pack here when it came to attacking, yes, attacking, anyone who dared to support a different primary candidate or voice concern about Romney’s conservative record. Including making vile and disgusting comments and accusations about Ed Morrissey, something that would have gotten you banned on many other forums.

Even several long time and loyal Romney supporters tried to warn you that your tactics would more likely alienate people to Romney rather than draw them to him, but it just wouldn’t sink into that hateful attitude you took such pride in displaying.

So tell us gilled one, how many less people showed up at the polls this year, compared to 2008? You think some people really meant it when they said they were just going to stay home as a result of the brow-beating that pervaded forums and comment sections all across the political spectrum from people like you?

What was even more disgustingly hypocritical was after Romney had locked up the nomination and all of a sudden you wanted to buddy up and play nice nice with those who you had viciously attacked because, “we’re all on the same side now.”

When contemplating the reasons why the candidate you claimed to be a sure winner lost, you can look no further than your own mirror for one of those reasons.

#WAR

Flora Duh on November 19, 2012 at 7:11 AM

Flora – you are SOOO Right On! Masterstroke!

williamg on November 19, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Bump..Just wanted to make 600 comments..:)

Dire Straits on November 19, 2012 at 2:06 PM

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