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posted at 8:01 pm on November 18, 2012 by Allahpundit

[C]ould the Romney campaign have done more to make their guy likable when it counted?

I’ve heard a few theories on this from people who either covered the campaign from the outside or were close with those who ran it from the inside. The most widespread explanation is that the campaign made a deliberate decision to limit the resources spent selling Romney-the-man. The thinking was that they couldn’t beat the president on likability in any event, and were better served by selling Romney, to paraphrase Ramesh Ponnuru, as a robot programmed to create jobs. A second, less obvious but perhaps more intriguing, theory is that leading with an account of Romney’s good deeds would have entailed delving deeply into the weeds of Mormonism (because, for example, much of Romney’s personal kindnesses came in his capacity as a church leader, and much of his charitable donations came in the form of tithing) and that this would have opened a whole new can of invertebrates that the campaign wasn’t eager to deal with.

One or both may well be true, and, combined with Romney’s apparent constitutional incapability to pat himself on the back for being a decent human being, they may have made the cuddlization of Romney a dubious strategy. But it isn’t as if the campaign worked to keep the stories secret. It did what it could, in convention testimonials, in YouTube ads, and in the mouths of surrogates (not least Paul Ryan in the nationally televised VP debate, though his boosterism was lost in the vice president’s Nicholsonesque cackling), to spread the word. But it was not preponderating.

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The messy aftermath of his failure suggests that Romney, a political amalgam with no natural constituency beyond the business community, is unlikely to play a significant role in rebuilding his party, many Republicans said this week.

“He’s not going to be running for anything in the future,” said Rep. Raúl R. Labrador (R-Idaho), who sharply criticized Romney’s comments about Hispanics. “He’s not our standard-bearer, unfortunately.”

Romney adviser Stuart Stevens strongly disagreed, calling Romney “the most popular Republican on the national scene at the moment,” given the votes he received on Election Day. Views of defeated candidates can change dramatically over time, Stevens added.

“Even those who have been critical of the campaign on our side realize in the end that Governor Romney was resonating with millions of Americans and was running the kind of campaign we could all be proud of,” Stevens said.

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In the countless hours I spent in Romney’s presence during his first White House run (and mostly from a greater distance during his second bid), I saw a man who was preternaturally upbeat, well-meaning, and kind to just about everyone he encountered, friends and strangers alike.

But I also saw a candidate who seemed by nature almost uniquely ill-equipped to appeal to the young and minority voters who ended up playing a key role in his electoral demise.

Members of the press who traveled with Romney in 2007 and early 2008 began slowly to pick up on what would become an established media narrative by the time Romney was the 2012 front-runner: The former Massachusetts governor didn’t just have a difficult time relating to young and minority voters, he often came across as a walking-talking time warp from the 1950s…

Romney’s overall argument was that he would make the economy better for everyone. But he steadfastly refused to take the next step and make his case on a narrower level, convincing critical demographic groups that he would specifically improve their lives and their communities.

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Romney is being erased with record speed from his party’s books for three reasons. First, many Republicans backed him because they thought he had a good chance of winning; that appeal, obviously, is gone. Second, Romney had shallow roots, and few friends, in the national Republican Party. And those shallow roots have allowed Republicans to give him a new role: As a sort of bad partisan bank, freighted with all the generational positions and postures that they are looking to dump.

“Romney is now a toxic asset to unload,” the historian Jack Bohrer remarked Saturday. “The only interesting thing left to his story is how they dispose of him.”…

There is an irony that Romney, the moderate, will be forced to carry off Todd Akin’s baggage on reproductive rights; Joe Arpaio’s on immigration; and James Dobson on gay rights. But when he cast popular policies as “gifts” to Obama voters (ignoring both his and Obama’s expensive promises to older voters), his decision to, as Bobby Jindal put it, “insult” the demographic groups who are a larger part of each successive electorate offered the Republicans the pivot they had been looking for toward presenting a younger, more diverse, and more inclusive party.

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“If we want people to like us, we have to like them first. And you don’t start to like people by insulting them and saying their votes were bought,” Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, chairman of the Republican Governors Association, told the “Fox News Sunday” program…

Jindal said: “We need to make it very clear – we’re not the party trying to protect the rich. They can protect themselves. We are the party that wants growth, pro-growth policies.”

Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, vice chairman of the Republican Governors Association, also called for a more inclusive message from Republicans…

“We have to show that we are serious about reaching out and helping everyone, not just a group here, not just a group there,” Walker added.

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In 2008, Republicans again preached the gospel of Rove and his allies—Ed Gillespie, Dana Perino, and basically everyone tied to American Crossroads. They told us that only John McCain could defeat this amateur, Barack Obama. Obama was too liberal for the electorate, they said. He had too much baggage. The country liked the Bush administration’s approach more than the “biased” polls let on. McCain was a perfect nominee because he was not an ideologue. (At one point after his loss to Bush in 2000, McCain even flirted with being a Democrat.) This guy was back and forth on so many issues that nobody was ever certain where he might land. That made him an ideal candidate to reach out to moderates and independents. Say, any of that sound familiar?

In 2012, these same people came back again, as overconfident and unchastened as ever. This time, they had most of the right-wing media on their side, regurgitating their views and attitudes to the exclusion of all others. Mitt Romney was the perfect candidate to stop Obama—so much so that anyone who got in his way was immediately attacked and marginalized. Rove used his perch as an “analyst” on Fox News to personally attack not only Newt Gingrich (who I worked for), but Herman Cain, and Sarah Palin, and Rick Perry, and Jon Huntsman, and on and on. So what if Mitt Romney once berated the Republican Party, the Reagan administration, pro-lifers, and the religious right—in other words, his own party’s base. Republicans needed him to win…

When I worked with Rove briefly at the White House, I found him to be a smart, energetic, capable man. Maybe more than I even realized. In the past two election cycles, he and his acolytes have personally helped Barack Obama get elected and yet made millions in the process. You tell me who the dummy is—Rove or the people who keep listening to him and funding him. Come to think of it, who really deserves the blame for what’s befallen the GOP?

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What unites all of these stories is the growing failure of America’s local associations — civic, familial, religious — to foster stability, encourage solidarity and make mobility possible.

This is a crisis that the Republican Party often badly misunderstands, casting Democratic-leaning voters as lazy moochers or spoiled children seeking “gifts” (as a certain former Republican presidential nominee would have it) rather than recognizing the reality of their economic struggles.

But if conservatives don’t acknowledge the crisis’s economic component, liberalism often seems indifferent to its deeper social roots. The progressive bias toward the capital-F Future, the old left-wing suspicion of faith and domesticity, the fact that Democrats have benefited politically from these trends — all of this makes it easy for liberals to just celebrate the emerging America, to minimize the costs of disrupted families and hollowed-out communities, and to treat the places where Americans have traditionally found solidarity outside the state (like the churches threatened by the Obama White House’s contraceptive mandate) as irritants or threats.

This is a great flaw in the liberal vision, because whatever role government plays in prosperity, transfer payments are not a sufficient foundation for middle-class success.

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Why, because I’m right? No one’s proven me wrong here yet.

ddrintn on November 18, 2012 at 9:46 PM

That air trying to escape your home…it’s the air of insufferability. Open the windows, at least.

…this from someone who was neither a SP nor a Mitt lover.

The free but stupid land deserves the self-inflicted destruction.

Starve the looters.

In turn the moochers will hurt. It’s the only way to learn.

Plus, if you own a business, fire a handfull of millennials. They are to blame for bringing Obama, twice. The spoiled brats have never produced anything but want everything, on their terms, and often free too.

Schadenfreude on November 18, 2012 at 9:51 PM

Didn’t know you were from Indiana. Lived in Elkhart once – the longest and dullest three years of my life.

bw222 on November 18, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Yep, that sounds like Indiana.

I live south…about 30 miles from the Peoples Republic of Bloomington.

My county is rural..we went about 78% for Romney.

Terrye on November 18, 2012 at 9:51 PM

All he needed to do was pick the 5 most onerous provisions of the law and repeat them over and over and over; he would’ve gotten voters’ attention then.

In 2010 the Tea Party insurrection made the election about Obamacare…and the Republicans won big.

In 2012 the Republican nominated the architect of Obamacare, which never became an important issue in the election…and lost.

Oh, and we all know Romney would have offered no more then token resistance to keeping Obamacare in place. “I’d love to repeal…really!!! We just need 60 Senate seats. So sorry.”

18-1 on November 18, 2012 at 9:51 PM

I think Resist is two steps ahead of you and already started the work. :)

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2012/09/you-heard-it-here-first-senator-tim.html

I just can’t make myself do it yet. I want to make snowmen and buy a plant.

Axe on November 18, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Looks pretty good.

Dongemaharu on November 18, 2012 at 9:52 PM

I really really wish though, that the media would bring up Obama’s totes to the extreme abortion stance. He’s a scissors in the back of the neck post birth kind of Kenyan.

Slade73 on November 18, 2012 at 9:52 PM

I voted Romney, because holding my breath until I turned blue was not going to make Sarah Palin run (unlike what some folks here seem to think). WHen I give my opinion, I give it in earnest, in hopes someone reading this can give it the consideration it is due. I sincerely hope I am not part of the “Trollcot.”

Sekhmet on November 18, 2012 at 9:49 PM

That is the exact same reason I ended up voting for Romney. Sarah was my first choice, but Sarah and Sarah alone made the decision not to run. A decision I totally support, even if I don’t like it.

SWalker on November 18, 2012 at 9:53 PM

Screw that, I calling outright voter fraud.

SWalker on November 18, 2012 at 9:19 PM

There’s certainly something odd with the numbers. Allen West is still out there trying to get his sorted out. Hopefully he’ll keep going.

As for the GOP, not a peep.

kim roy on November 18, 2012 at 9:23 PM

This is what I don’t understand! Why isn’t the GOP doing anything about the obvious voter fraud? I was explaining to a friend the discrepancy in registered voters vs actual votes in some precincts and her first question was why the GOP wasn’t doing anything if this was a real possibility. I didn’t have an answer!

wolverinefan on November 18, 2012 at 9:53 PM

Romney lost because less than 50% of Americans pay income taxes and have no concept of what a burden it can be, more than 50% of Americans (and not social security earners or veterans, those are leftist strawmen) are getting benefits from the government and because a substantial number of Americans are either stupid or have emotional issues and think voting democrat makes them enlightened or compassionate. I’m sick and tired of the finger pointing about why he lost, he lost because we are outnumbered and because the democrats cheat just in case. Our society is diseased, as is much of Western civilization, and survive or not in a hundred years they will write books about the suicide of America and Western civilization.

peacenprosperity on November 18, 2012 at 9:54 PM

Why, because I’m right? No one’s proven me wrong here yet.

ddrintn on November 18, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Right?? A crybaby who is all pissy because Sarah Palin did not decide to run thinks he is right? What do you think would have happened if Sarah had actually decided to give up her safe and lucrative gig and run for President? She would have been crushed. Sane people know that.

Please. Romney came closer than any of the other choices..the truth is the American people got this one wrong. It happens.

Terrye on November 18, 2012 at 9:55 PM

More cowbell. If the Romney campaign had just a little bit more cowbell, we totally would have won this thing.

bitsy on November 18, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Enough already. And no more.

predator on November 18, 2012 at 9:51 PM

Ummm…we’ll see what happens when all the “support Jeb and/or Marco or the commies will win and you’ll be a commie bastid too!!!” stuff starts up. It’s kinda hard to speak your convictions in that environment, believe me.

ddrintn on November 18, 2012 at 9:55 PM

As it should be, the GOP betrayed it’s base.

SWalker on November 18, 2012 at 9:40 PM

And the dummies did it over 30 freaking years ago!

The fact that the GOP folded like a cheap dollar store chair back then and are apparently unwilling to find a way around, over, or under this now says all I need to know that they DO. NOT. GIVE. A. SH!T. about voter fraud.

If it were the Dems, you know they would have had it reversed inside of three months, with the attendant constant noise about it until it happened.

There is nothing … nothing … that makes any and every election more pointless than this Consent Decree. All we can conclude then, if one of our candidates happens to win, is that it was sheer luck they got the vote totals they did.

PatriotGal2257 on November 18, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Also still like Sarah Palin, Sean Hannity, and Ed Morrissey, mostly.

Also still digging social conservatism and AllahPundit.

. . . ass is gonna look like a pincushion tomorrow.

Axe on November 18, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Mourdock a lefty? Don’t know where you get your info, but you should find some new sources.

bw222 on November 18, 2012 at 9:51 PM

maybe you should! Most pols are lefty’s because Government is what keeps them employed. Fox news is center left for Gosh sake.

Slade73 on November 18, 2012 at 9:56 PM

SoCons will continue to lose, period. The trends ain’t going their way.

And don’t give me the “no fiscal conservatism without social conservatism” nonsense.

Slade73 on November 18, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Bush 43, moderate though he was overall won in 2000 and 2004..remember?

When we the last time a socially liberal candidate won the Presidency as a Republican?

Nominate an across the board conservative…like Reagan…and win big.

Nominate a squish with SoCon tendencies…win a close one.

Nominate a liberal like Romney or McCain…and lose.

18-1 on November 18, 2012 at 9:57 PM

Look at our GOP leaders: Boehner, McConnell, Graham, McCain, Christie…..that says it all, we’re doomed.
& the good ones getting trashed: Allen West, Mia Love…..
My consolation prize: liberals loving paying the Obamacare tax, carbon tax, over the cliff taxes, more bailouts & even more taxpayer funded workers…hmm, they’ll probably like that.

Belle on November 18, 2012 at 9:58 PM

kim roy on November 18, 2012 at 9:23 PM

This is what I don’t understand! Why isn’t the GOP doing anything about the obvious voter fraud? I was explaining to a friend the discrepancy in registered voters vs actual votes in some precincts and her first question was why the GOP wasn’t doing anything if this was a real possibility. I didn’t have an answer!

wolverinefan on November 18, 2012 at 9:53 PM

This would appear to be the reason why.

You didn’t happen to see this and this yesterday, did you?

I posted it originally in the thread about the bible publisher winning a third injunction against Obamacare.

My blood is still boiling over it.

PatriotGal2257 on November 18, 2012 at 9:38 PM

SWalker on November 18, 2012 at 9:58 PM

We know how it ends.

Rational Thought on November 18, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Pretty much nailed it…

… We will find out for sure in the midterms in 2014, and how the GOP Governors do.

If Oblahblah’s policies on energy, regulations, currency, debt, and Obowmacare kicking in have the effect I think they will in the next two years, we will be teetering on self implosion…

If the Left takes those midterms, we are done…

… If Conservatives win in the House and the Senate, we have a chance to turn this around.

Seven Percent Solution on November 18, 2012 at 9:58 PM

“Anger”? I’m not the one telling people to gop to hell, or saying they support this or that politico simply because she has a nice ass. I’m just telling you what happened.

ddrintn on November 18, 2012 at 9:51 PM

You can tell us your *opinion* of what happened in a civilized tone to US. You are mocking and derisive to US about how WE voted and want to make us regret OUR vote like WE are a bunch of morons when YOU know every well that is not the case.

In other words, “told you so, morons” is an angry way to get your point across and totally unnecessary.

kim roy on November 18, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Rs are playing a very dangerous game. The stupidity runs Deep.

one of basics of marketing is to support people in their decision after purchase of a product. There is a lot of post-decisional processes that people go through and so it is important to re-assure people that they made the right choice

evidently Rs are unaware of these things. Now that mitt has lost, and the Rs have lost in the Senate, it is important to send out messages about he fundamental conservative principles as being sound…and that people were right to select Romney…and that we need to stick together and help others see what we see

sadly, Rs apparent have only one principle…slash and burn your way to being in the top 10 candidates for 2016…Turf Management

sad joke. and the sadder joke for these guys is that the guy who is really smiling is Huck…that’s right, the good ole boy number 1

r keller on November 18, 2012 at 9:58 PM

You all have a good night!

gophergirl on November 18, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Sarah was my first choice, but Sarah and Sarah alone made the decision not to run. A decision I totally support, even if I don’t like it.

SWalker on November 18, 2012 at 9:53 PM

I’d never vote for Sarah. Reality TV stars are by definition off limits.

Now former coke addicts who flip vehicles on choom, then viciously prosecute a useless war on drugs – THAT’S a politician!

Slade73 on November 18, 2012 at 9:59 PM

Right?? A crybaby who is all pissy because Sarah Palin did not decide to run thinks he is right? What do you think would have happened if Sarah had actually decided to give up her safe and lucrative gig and run for President? She would have been crushed. Sane people know that.

Please. Romney came closer than any of the other choices..the truth is the American people got this one wrong. It happens.

Terrye on November 18, 2012 at 9:55 PM

I don’t understand this psychotic obsession you rehabilitiating ‘bots have with Sarah Palin. I really don’t. I never even mentioned the woman.

I predicted a Romney loss, and I told you why he woulds. For that, I was a “nut”. I was right. You were wrong. Now please tell us again how the GOP can win next, k?

ddrintn on November 18, 2012 at 9:59 PM

All he needed to do was pick the 5 most onerous provisions of the law and repeat them over and over and over; he would’ve gotten voters’ attention then.

In 2010 the Tea Party insurrection made the election about Obamacare…and the Republicans won big.

In 2012 the Republican nominated the architect of Obamacare, which never became an important issue in the election…and lost.

Oh, and we all know Romney would have offered no more then token resistance to keeping Obamacare in place. “I’d love to repeal…really!!! We just need 60 Senate seats. So sorry.”

18-1 on November 18, 2012 at 9:51 PM

Romney is not the architect of Obamacare and if people really wanted to get rid of Obamacare they knew the only way to do that was to get rid of Obama. They knew that and they did not do it…the idea that if we had just run someone else or screamed louder about Obamacare that things would have been different is just not true.

More people decided to keep Obamacare and Obama than decided to get rid of either of them.

In 2010 we were running people for Congress, this was a national election. Not the same thing.

Terrye on November 18, 2012 at 10:00 PM

You all have a good night!

gophergirl on November 18, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Night gopher — W.Y.N.!

Axe on November 18, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Good night gg

22044 on November 18, 2012 at 10:00 PM

williamg on November 18, 2012 at 9:49 PM

I think AP is just showing us the “changes” people are undergoing. Some that you might expect, others that are a surprise. It would be nice if he could blow sunshine up our butts, but I don’t think there is much to go around.

Cindy Munford on November 18, 2012 at 10:01 PM

Terrye on November 18, 2012 at 9:49 PM

But, he stopped. He was given a perfect opportunity with the opening question at the 3rd debate and he opted not to take it. Yes, the media was on Obama’s side, but Romney has to take responsibility for his own decisions. He had one last moment to take it to Obama on Benghazi after Crowley had to admit that she was wrong and the media even had to admit that Obama didn’t call Benghazi an “act of terror” from the Rose Garden on the 12th. He opted to play it safe and I think it cost him (not saying that he would have won, but I know that a lot of people were disappointed and that could have affected his turnout).

It is easy to blame the media, but we all know how they will always be. They aren’t going to change. We have to adapt to that fact. If Romney was too afraid to confront Obama because of the media, then he didn’t deserve to win.

Someone, eventually, will figure out that they need to stand up and tell the truth. Speak to the American people directly, tell them the truth and take it to the media — knowing that they will be savaged. It’s about time that politicians that aren’t on the Left figure out that they will NEVER be supported by the media except when they are beating one another up. McCain was loved by the media when he was beating up Bush. Look at what they are accusing him of now: Racism and sexism.

Resist We Much on November 18, 2012 at 10:01 PM

Ummm…we’ll see what happens when all the “support Jeb and/or Marco or the commies will win and you’ll be a commie bastid too!!!” stuff starts up. It’s kinda hard to speak your convictions in that environment, believe me.

ddrintn on November 18, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Boolshite. The commies have been advancing their agenda for years, even through the Reagan days. They do it through the schools, the media, the entertainment community, and through the labor movement. A lot of people may run and hide if your scenario holds true, but I still think there are a good many who will not. I count myself among them.

If all hell breaks loose, then Let it Burn.

predator on November 18, 2012 at 10:01 PM

This is what I don’t understand! Why isn’t the GOP doing anything about the obvious voter fraud? I was explaining to a friend the discrepancy in registered voters vs actual votes in some precincts and her first question was why the GOP wasn’t doing anything if this was a real possibility. I didn’t have an answer!

wolverinefan on November 18, 2012 at 9:53 PM

Because, incredibly enough, the GOP can’t. That’s right — they can’t. You won’t believe your own eyes, but it’s there in black and white. Read this and this, and you’ll have an answer.

I’m still in a terrible mood over it.

PatriotGal2257 on November 18, 2012 at 10:01 PM

There is a solution… We need to get 65% to 70% of the White Vote by strongly and continuously going after the Welfare State and those who are living in the Welfare State and sucking hundreds of billions of dollars each year from tax payers… The vast majority of Whites (65% to 70% of Whites) would be very well energized to vote against the Welfare State if we play this angle strongly and continuously… Also we should try to get at least 35% of the Latino vote… 70% of the White Vote and 35% of the Latino vote would put us around 52% to 53% of the total vote…

mnjg on November 18, 2012 at 9:37 PM

The white illegitimate birth rate is 30%, and increasing every year. Four in 10 of all babies born each year are illegitimate (including 73% of black children and 53% of Hispanic children), and that, too, keeps growing. These aren’t “single moms” as portrayed on television. They are teenage girls and young adult women having babies they cannot take care of, will never be able to take care of. The mothers of these children will, in large majorities, never, ever work. They will vote for whomever is promising welfare benefits. We are a welfare state. There are no solutions. It simply…is. Solutions, now, will only follow a total meltdown of the social order. That’s gonna take awhile.

Rational Thought on November 18, 2012 at 10:02 PM

I predicted a Romney loss, and I told you why he woulds. For that, I was a “nut”. I was right. You were wrong. Now please tell us again how the GOP can win next, k?

ddrintn on November 18, 2012 at 9:59 PM

Listen moron…you are the one who started yakking about Nistas and all that crap so do not talk to me about resurrecting anything.

And Nancy Pelosi said Romney would lose too…so go hang out with her kind.

Terrye on November 18, 2012 at 10:02 PM

ddrintn on November 18, 2012 at 9:59 PM

Good to see you back and I’m glad you joined us in the effort, for what it was worth.

Cindy Munford on November 18, 2012 at 10:02 PM

G’night, gg.

predator on November 18, 2012 at 10:03 PM

18-1 on November 18, 2012 at 9:57 PM

Bush 43! You’re kidding right? The champion of Compassionate Conservatism? (read: liberal)

Reagan raised taxes every year after his first. That’s not exactly conservative.

Anyway, my point is we can be fiscally conservative and also give the people what they want by following the constitution – such as legalizing weed on the state levels and not having the Feds challenge it. 10th amendment.

Slade73 on November 18, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Ummm…we’ll see what happens when all the “support Jeb and/or Marco or the commies will win and you’ll be a commie bastid too!!!” stuff starts up. It’s kinda hard to speak your convictions in that environment, believe me.

ddrintn on November 18, 2012 at 9:55 PM

So keep a list of names so you can continue on with your self-righteousness. Seriously.

I’ll never support Jeb Bush and unless Rubio goes HARD right he won’t have my support. There ya go.

kim roy on November 18, 2012 at 10:04 PM

You can tell us your *opinion* of what happened in a civilized tone to US.

kim roy on November 18, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Oh, I have. Many times. I and others would usually get only what one gets from angry libs when they have no argument: ad hominem and “got to hell” and “you must be having some sexual fantasies about Sarah Palin” blahblahblah. And strangely enough, kim roy, you never come to anyone’s defense who is subjected to that. You just seem to get your knickers in a twist when someone tells you that squishes lose nationally.

ddrintn on November 18, 2012 at 10:04 PM

Sadly, Mr. Romney was too truthful. There are all sorts of people in economic difficulties, and there are those who, do to having acquired superior resources earlier, are not in economic difficulties — their resources are sufficient to tide them over.

The difference between Romney and Obama came down to gifts — which President would be most apt to give?

Mr. Obama ran on a platform of printing money and taking from the rich — without any budget to control the process.

Those who found this acceptable — who found no problems with coveting the goods of other and following that with theft of same through the sovereign power of Government — gravitated toward Obama. Those who found this behavior to be morally reprehensible gravitated toward Romney.

That is the problem with America today — too many of us have lost our way and expect the Government to produce what, in the 1950′s, would have been an individual endeavor.

We are no longer the ones responsible for putting meat on the table — that job now belongs to the rich man down the block — until his resources are exhausted and he is reduced to what we have become.

We won’t win this one until the Treasury is found to be truly empty, and every blade of grass standing in any way taller than another is cut down size.

unclesmrgol on November 18, 2012 at 10:04 PM

If all hell breaks loose, then Let it Burn.

predator on November 18, 2012 at 10:01 PM

That’s where I am now but I’ll get over it. I’ll find something worth fighting for.

Cindy Munford on November 18, 2012 at 10:05 PM

You all have a good night!

gophergirl on November 18, 2012 at 9:58 PM

You too, GG. Have a good night!

PatriotGal2257 on November 18, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Someone, eventually, will figure out that they need to stand up and tell the truth. Speak to the American people directly, tell them the truth and take it to the media — knowing that they will be savaged. It’s about time that politicians that aren’t on the Left figure out that they will NEVER be supported by the media except when they are beating one another up. McCain was loved by the media when he was beating up Bush. Look at what they are accusing him of now: Racism and sexism.

Resist We Much on November 18, 2012 at 10:01 PM

What truth? We still do not know what the truth is where Benghazi is concerned. That is my point. You say Romney had the perfect opportunity in the third debate…well the first two times he tried it blew up in his face…what makes you think the third time would have been different?

There has been so much misdirection and confusion concerning all of this that a lot of what people were saying originally has been shown to be wrong. And that we can thank the media for.

Terrye on November 18, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Listen moron…

“Romney is TEH AWESEOMEST!!!!! ANd he’s gonna win in a landslide!!!!!!!!” Moronic, yeah.

And Nancy Pelosi said Romney would lose too…so go hang out with her kind.

Terrye on November 18, 2012 at 10:02 PM

Not for the same reason. Pelosi also doesn’t like Palin, I would imagine.

ddrintn on November 18, 2012 at 10:07 PM

It would be nice if he could blow sunshine up our butts, but I don’t think there is much to go around.

Cindy Munford on November 18, 2012 at 10:01 PM

Point taken.

. . . now that you mention it, maybe we need to stop what we’re doing and put our butts in the sunshine. I mean, it couldn’t hurt, right? And how long has it been since some of our butts have even seen sunshine? That can’t be right.

Tomorrow, I’m going to show my butt the sunshine. It sounds liberating.

I don’t want to go back to jail, but — something’s gotta give, and this might be just the thing!

Who’s with me!

Axe on November 18, 2012 at 10:07 PM

Anyway, my point is we can be fiscally conservative and also give the people what they want by following the constitution

Actually you can’t. Because given a choice between a Romney and an Obama, the electorate will choose the liberal with a D next to his name each time.

The only way the Republicans win is by engaging Socons. The numbers are simple.

Now, if they really want to win they need to engage conservatives across the board…like in 1980 and 84.

18-1 on November 18, 2012 at 10:07 PM

And that we can thank the media for.

Terrye on November 18, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Yup, Andrew Breitbart was 100 percent correct, the Fifth Column Treasonous Media is America’s most dangerous enemy.

SWalker on November 18, 2012 at 10:07 PM

You should really read this. It’s brutal but it’s also really accurate. Just read the sample pages available on Amazon. That’s enough to keep you up at night…

cynccook on November 18, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Thanks, I can’t seem to find the free sample button.

JPeterman on November 18, 2012 at 10:08 PM

Hi Flora! Florida has some strange information coming out of it with respect to vote counts, etc. The latest thing I read was 900 Guatemalan (iirc) voters in a 7 registered voter district with respect to West. Of course, since info is so sparse it’s hard to say what’s going on.

No one here has said that you have they? It should be clear to everyone what your affiliation is. Glad you have some family in town – enjoy!

kim roy on November 18, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Edson said a retabulation of early votes showed 900 voters cast ballots in precinct 93, where there were seven registered voters. (Source – WPTV )

That quote is found on Politisite. Miraculously it has disappeared from WPTV’s website.

The St. Lucie County canvassing board has issued the results of an early ballot recount, it puts Murphy ahead with 50.16% of the votes. Although the results haven’t been certified by the state, Murphy has again declared himself the winner. At this point I don’t know what else West can do.

Flora Duh on November 18, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Who’s with me!

Axe on November 18, 2012 at 10:07 PM

If I showed my butt to the sunshine everyone would need to wear a welding shield or they would go blind from the glare… o_O

SWalker on November 18, 2012 at 10:09 PM

I’ll never support Jeb Bush and unless Rubio goes HARD right he won’t have my support. There ya go.

kim roy on November 18, 2012 at 10:04 PM

ROFL. I’ll have to bookmark that one.

ddrintn on November 18, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Axe on November 18, 2012 at 10:07 PM

We had a sunny day for the first time in about a week. Still not temped to gross out the neighbors with a total eclipse but I did enjoy the change.

Cindy Munford on November 18, 2012 at 10:10 PM

Oh, I have. Many times. I and others would usually get only what one gets from angry libs when they have no argument: ad hominem and “got to hell” and “you must be having some sexual fantasies about Sarah Palin” blahblahblah. And strangely enough, kim roy, you never come to anyone’s defense who is subjected to that. You just seem to get your knickers in a twist when someone tells you that squishes lose nationally.

ddrintn on November 18, 2012 at 10:04 PM

No you have not. You have insulted people. You have made obnoxious comments..but you have never ever come up with a reasonable and intelligent plan to do anything other than piss people off.

Every since Palin fell flat you turned into an ass.

And the truth is if Newt or Santorum or Cain or Perry or anyone who actually bothered to try to get the nomination were running against Obama you would have been just as snotty about them.

Terrye on November 18, 2012 at 10:10 PM

I am wondering what effect race had in Romney not attacking Obama harder. I live in Michigan and Romney and the PACs supporting him carpet-bombed Santorum, who was closest at the time of our primary.

There are so many things Romney could have attacked Obama on, but he didn’t.

Many of Romney’s advisors (Kevin Madden, Mike Murphy, etc.) have made a career of managing losing campaigns, keep advising their candidates to move to the center and would much rather alienate conservatives than their liberal friends.

bw222 on November 18, 2012 at 10:10 PM

williamg on November 18, 2012 at 9:49 PM

I think AP is just showing us the “changes” people are undergoing. Some that you might expect, others that are a surprise. It would be nice if he could blow sunshine up our butts, but I don’t think there is much to go around.

Cindy Munford on November 18, 2012 at 10:01 PM

Cindy – nice try to carry Allahpundit’s water for him…..almost as well as MSNBC does for Obama – but I’m not buying it.

There’s a WORLD of space between “blowing sunshine up out butts” and “SHOOTING our own People Over and Over again….”

That’s MOST of what he does: Shoot our own soldiers.

Here’s a fundamental rule of warfare: “If you want to WIN: Shoot THE ENEMY, NOT your OWN SOLDIERS!”

THAT is how you WIN!!

williamg on November 18, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Thanks, I can’t seem to find the free sample button.

JPeterman on November 18, 2012 at 10:08 PM

Click on the image of the book that says “Look Inside this Book.”
If you have an Amazon account and you’re logged in, it will allow you to read more pages. Does that work?

cynccook on November 18, 2012 at 10:11 PM

predator on November 18, 2012 at 9:51 PM

If the GOP can’t stop this nonsense, then maybe a third party would wake them up. I’ve had enough already, too.

Philly on November 18, 2012 at 10:12 PM

I wonder…how long until Mike Murphy blames the loss on Ryan?

18-1 on November 18, 2012 at 10:12 PM

I predicted a Romney loss, and I told you why he woulds. For that, I was a “nut”. I was right. You were wrong. Now please tell us again how the GOP can win next, k?

ddrintn on November 18, 2012 at 9:59 PM

So that makes you some of a hero? Your rubbing our noses in it is boring and tedious.

JPeterman on November 18, 2012 at 10:12 PM

Yup, Andrew Breitbart was 100 percent correct, the Fifth Column Treasonous Media is America’s most dangerous enemy.

SWalker on November 18, 2012 at 10:07 PM

I read somewhere that 80% of the journalists in the US self identified as Democrat. 13% as Republican and 7% as Other…whatever that is.

They are partisan. That is what they are.

Terrye on November 18, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Justice Roberts is the ultimate rino traitor. Next in line is Chris Christie. Then Bobby Jindal for bashing Romney. Even Scott Walker, my hero, let me down. What are they thinking?!? Blacks, hispanics, muslims, single women will ALWAYS vote democratic….yes, get over it, they want the free stuff.& that rino on the weekly standard, Billy boy Kristol for saying, raise taxes, not a problem.

No need to ever vote again. Because even if you do, good chance it won’t count.

The country has gone off the cliff. How to lift my despair so I may stay in the real world?

Belle on November 18, 2012 at 9:26 PM

Thank you, Belle. You lifted my mood a little with that rant. To your individual points, I say “yes, yes, yes” to everything you wrote. I’m so sick of listening to pundits and others blame Romney because he was too white, didn’t appeal to minorities, wasn’t likable enough, spoke the truth about why Obama got the votes he did, etc. Romney was the adult in the room and he didn’t appeal to the kids who are running things now; end of story. Jindal lost a lot of cred with me this last week for slapping Romney around.

We finally reached a tipping point in our country. They (the ones who can be bought with a dictator’s bag of goodies and promises) outnumber the rest of us. It’s only going to get worse from now on.

Burke on November 18, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Oh, I have. Many times. I and others would usually get only what one gets from angry libs when they have no argument: ad hominem and “got to hell” and “you must be having some sexual fantasies about Sarah Palin” blahblahblah. And strangely enough, kim roy, you never come to anyone’s defense who is subjected to that. You just seem to get your knickers in a twist when someone tells you that squishes lose nationally.

ddrintn on November 18, 2012 at 10:04 PM

At the beginning of his campaign none of us really had much hope. Then we tried to do the right thing, get enthusiastic, keep with it. Personally, I never felt quite right as I was really worried about the media and their hand in things. Would it have been appropriate to harp about that 24/7? Would it have done any good? No. I just kept saying to keep an eye on the prize, work hard and keep the faith. Better than the hectoring and naysaying you offered. We knew it was hard and with a good chance of failing. We had to try. You diminished that effort for really no good purpose except your ego.

And yet here you are trying to boost your ego at the expense of others. Again.

Has nothing to do with you, of course. We’re the idiots.

kim roy on November 18, 2012 at 10:14 PM

ROFL. I’ll have to bookmark that one.

ddrintn on November 18, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Please do.

kim roy on November 18, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Click on the image of the book that says “Look Inside this Book.”
If you have an Amazon account and you’re logged in, it will allow you to read more pages. Does that work?

cynccook on November 18, 2012 at 10:11 PM

You linked to the hardcover and I just flipped the title to the Kindle version and the free sample button is there. I am happy now ;)

JPeterman on November 18, 2012 at 10:15 PM

No you have not. You have insulted people. You have made obnoxious comments..but you have never ever come up with a reasonable and intelligent plan to do anything other than piss people off.

Every since Palin fell flat you turned into an ass.

Terrye on November 18, 2012 at 10:10 PM

I’ve never personally insulted anyone other than calling them Mittbots, and there really and truly is such a thing…as you ought to know. I said very clearly many many times that Romney would lose and I said WHY he would lose. As f or “intelligent plan”, run a conservative sometime. Heck, run Scott Walker if Palin stirs up the catty willies too much for you.

ddrintn on November 18, 2012 at 10:15 PM

More cowbell. If the Romney campaign had just a little bit more cowbell, we totally would have won this thing.

bitsy on November 18, 2012 at 9:55 PM

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc85/Mamba1-0/MoreCowbell.jpg

:)

Solaratov on November 18, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Nope. As I’ve said several times, I held my nose and voted for Romney. You know, it’s what WE “TrueCon ‘nista purist socon” bastiges usually do: vote for the GOP nominee. Unlike, say, nearly 60% of moderates who voted. They did, in fact, vote for Obama. Maybe you should try to win them over again next time, huh.

ddrintn on November 18, 2012 at 9:43 PM

.
Romney’s crime was that he was rich. And yes it is a crime. Oh, and they own a horse or two. And they wanted to control all lady parts.
We learned It didn’t matter that Romney had the best resume for the job. It’s a Popularity Contest now to elect a President and the incumbent, President Eye Candy has the Pop culture Hollywood Big Media machine working 24/7. Last time it was Oprah.

Moderate, shmoderate. There’s even more of these stupid voters, then the hand out demographic.
Thank God half of these citizens decline to even vote. They don’t even know who the VP is.

FlaMurph on November 18, 2012 at 10:16 PM

If all hell breaks loose, then Let it Burn.

predator on November 18, 2012 at 10:01 PM

That’s where I am now but I’ll get over it. I’ll find something worth fighting for.

Cindy Munford on November 18, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Let it Burn. And we who rise from the ashes will set the world right. Washington, DC has become the enemy of the people and all this country is supposed to stand for. Let it Burn. Then resurrect it.

What have we to lose?

predator on November 18, 2012 at 10:17 PM

the problem isn’t Romney. The problem is that the entire Conservative Movement has run off the road and gotten itself bog’d down in the mud. DD

Darvin Dowdy on November 18, 2012 at 10:18 PM

At the beginning of his campaign none of us really had much hope. Then we tried to do the right thing, get enthusiastic, keep with it. Personally, I never felt quite right as I was really worried about the media and their hand in things. Would it have been appropriate to harp about that 24/7? Would it have done any good? No.

Awwwww, how noble. You just didn’t want to be called nasty names and not be allowed to sit with the Kool Kidz. The truth is appropriate when you see so much downright delusion. and…

And yet here you are trying to boost your ego at the expense of others. Again.

…ego has nothing to with it.

Has nothing to do with you, of course. We’re the idiots.

kim roy on November 18, 2012 at 10:14 PM

If the shoe fits…

ddrintn on November 18, 2012 at 10:20 PM

If the GOP can’t stop this nonsense, then maybe a third party would wake them up. I’ve had enough already, too.

Philly on November 18, 2012 at 10:12 PM

Let them go the way of the Whigs. Would it be harder in today’s world to achieve such a goal? Yes.

Is it worth the effort nonetheless? I say yes.

predator on November 18, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Edson said a retabulation of early votes showed 900 voters cast ballots in precinct 93, where there were seven registered voters. (Source – WPTV )

That quote is found on Politisite. Miraculously it has disappeared from WPTV’s website.

The St. Lucie County canvassing board has issued the results of an early ballot recount, it puts Murphy ahead with 50.16% of the votes. Although the results haven’t been certified by the state, Murphy has again declared himself the winner. At this point I don’t know what else West can do.

Flora Duh on November 18, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Thanks for the info, Flora. I really hope he keeps up the good fight. His statement from Greta’s blog said he was going to discuss his options, but the statement was bland and not very illuminating. Hopefully he has legal options if he chooses.

kim roy on November 18, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Nominate a liberal like Romney or McCain…and lose.

18-1 on November 18, 2012 at 9:57 PM

And if Palin had run and lost…you and the rest would be yammering about how “liberal” she is and we needed a “real conservative”.

Come to think of it…wasn’t Sarah on a ticket with McCain at one time? Hmmm.

Solaratov on November 18, 2012 at 10:20 PM

I think that the whole socon v ficon debate is not only tedious, it is soooo dated. It completely misses the mark. The debate should be freedom v dependence. I am a libertarian, but I am not a Ron Paul supporter; nevertheless, I admit that the man has an ability to excite young voters. Why? He’s not out promising “gifts.” He’s talking about liberty v tyranny, freedom v dependence.

In the past 2 presidential elections, Democrats have moved away from white voters and elderly voters and, for the first time, young voters have turned out in greater numbers than their aged relatives. Now, Obama can promise them all of the freebies that he wants and make them envious of rich people, but the reality of the US’ fiscal situation is actually setting up the biggest war that we will have scene in a very long time and it won’t be one based on class or race, but on age.

Because of the unsustainable promises made by politicians over the decades and the aging population, younger generations are going to be asked to pay more in taxes and have a lower standard of living than their elders did.

Consider these projections from the non-partisan Peterson-Pew Commission on Budget Reform:

1. When today’s college students reach retirement (about 2054), Social Security alone will require a 16.6% payroll tax, one-third greater than today’s rate.

2. When Medicare Part A is included, the payroll tax burden will rise to 25.7% – more than one of every four dollars workers will earn that year.

3. If Medicare Part B (physician services) and Part D are included, the total Social Security/Medicare burden of the payroll tax will climb to 37% by 2054 – one in three dollars of taxable payroll, and twice the size of today’s payroll tax burden.

Think about that. Assuming that the two programmes were made to survive somehow, workers would have a 37% payroll tax.

Unfortunately, no one is telling young people that someone is going to have to pay the bill. And, more outrageously, Obama and his ilk are telling them that they should get free stuff, too.

In the future, we need candidates that will define the fight as one between freedom and dependence, liberty and tyranny. Abortion, SSM, drug legalisation are, frankly, matters that should be left to the states, unless you want to amend the COTUS. They are not where the fight is going to lay in the future although arguing for Big Government when you want to control certain behaviours does complicate your message when you are arguing for limited government, Federalism, personal responsibility, and community choice.

Resist We Much on November 18, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Once the Dream Act and other forms of amnesty are enacted, it’s all over, folks. It pretty much is already, anyway. The book I’m reading right now points out that Hispanics are already 42% of the population in NM, 37% of CA, 38% of TX and over 50% of the population of AZ under the age of 20. By 2010 they were already 40% of K-12 in AZ, 44% in TX, 47% in CA and 54% in NM. By 2011 that number in TX was over 50%. And those Hispanics are not Conservatives by any stretch: a 2009 survey showed that Hispanics scored the highest of any racial group on a progressive values index.

Conservatives are an endangered species, my friends.

cynccook on November 18, 2012 at 10:21 PM

The only way the Republicans win is by engaging Socons. The numbers are simple.

Now, if they really want to win they need to engage conservatives across the board…like in 1980 and 84.

18-1 on November 18, 2012 at 10:07 PM

3 million SoCons didn’t show up to vote, so I think you’re overstating their waning influence.

Slade73 on November 18, 2012 at 10:22 PM

It’s a Popularity Contest now to elect a President…

FlaMurph on November 18, 2012 at 10:16 PM

Uh, yeah, that’s what it’s always been. It’s in the nature of, you know, elections. It’s not HR looking over resumes.

As for Romney’s “crime”, it’s that he was a political jellyfish. A gray blur with no real definition.

ddrintn on November 18, 2012 at 10:23 PM

3 million SoCons didn’t show up to vote,
Slade73 on November 18, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Or voter fraud switched their votes to Obama.

SWalker on November 18, 2012 at 10:24 PM

When the candidate starts saying “working with good democrats” it’s over. O.V.E.R. I don’t care how badly he whipped Barackabama in the debates. The base doesn’t want to hear about “working with good democrats” because we know there is no such thing as a good democrat.

SouthernGent on November 18, 2012 at 10:24 PM

You linked to the hardcover and I just flipped the title to the Kindle version and the free sample button is there. I am happy now ;)

JPeterman on November 18, 2012 at 10:15 PM

If you can, start reading the section that begins on page 130 (in the hardcover) “A New Tribe?”

cynccook on November 18, 2012 at 10:24 PM

cynccook on November 18, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Is that the Buchanan book?

JPeterman on November 18, 2012 at 10:24 PM

I read somewhere that 80% of the journalists in the US self identified as Democrat. 13% as Republican and 7% as Other…whatever that is.

They are partisan. That is what they are.

Terrye on November 18, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Well, they need to be stopped.

sentinelrules on November 18, 2012 at 10:24 PM

kim roy on November 18, 2012 at 9:58 PM

ddrintn was a whiny little t!tty-baby before the election…and the passage of time hasn’t improved him at all.

Solaratov on November 18, 2012 at 10:24 PM

Burke, appreciate the reply, but personally I feel so down. & I’m usually an optimistic person.
I wish I could send the GOP establishment a lump of coal for what they did to the honorable Allen West. He was too articulate, too conservative for the likes of them. We’ll fix you, my good man, redistrict!!!

Hey, here’s a thought. Let’s send Barack & Michele on a perpetual vacation. What they’ll both spend on their trips will be much less than the horrible legislation they’ll both give us back in Washington.

Oh, that’s right, there’s plenty of golf & taxpayer funded shopping sprees for them both. Just leave it to Soros & Axelrod to run things.

Belle on November 18, 2012 at 10:26 PM

Sarah Palin isn’t exactly a nitwit, in fact she’s miles ahead of “lady parts” voters. But she could never ever win.

On the other hand, I’m sexy, good looking and sexy. Unfortunately I smoked Mary Jane and got caught so I’m not a viable candidate, and I’m subject to unjust laws considering marijuana a Sched. 1 narcotic! Only potheads like Obama who don’t get caught get to be president and prosecute the stupid war on drugs.

Slade73 on November 18, 2012 at 10:27 PM

This is going to be my last post to you. You can continue to hump my leg if you wish, but you will get nothing.

This is EXACTLY what I have been saying and thank you so much for making my point crystal clear.

At the beginning of his campaign none of us really had much hope. Then we tried to do the right thing, get enthusiastic, keep with it. Personally, I never felt quite right as I was really worried about the media and their hand in things. Would it have been appropriate to harp about that 24/7? Would it have done any good? No.

Awwwww, how noble. You just didn’t want to be called nasty names and not be allowed to sit with the Kool Kidz. The truth is appropriate when you see so much downright delusion. and…

Here I give you some insight into how people were reacting and why they were behaving as they were and you call it “delusion” and mock about it being some idiot popularity contest. Are you a closet liberal or something?

And yet here you are trying to boost your ego at the expense of others. Again.

…ego has nothing to with it.

Sure it does. You are attempting to make yourself smarter and superior to us “deluded” peasants.

Has nothing to do with you, of course. We’re the idiots.

kim roy on November 18, 2012 at 10:14 PM

If the shoe fits…

ddrintn on November 18, 2012 at 10:20 PM

And there it is. Thank you for playing.

Bye now.

kim roy on November 18, 2012 at 10:27 PM

We still do not know what the truth is where Benghazi is concerned. That is my point. You say Romney had the perfect opportunity in the third debate…well the first two times he tried it blew up in his face…what makes you think the third time would have been different?

There has been so much misdirection and confusion concerning all of this that a lot of what people were saying originally has been shown to be wrong. And that we can thank the media for.

Terrye on November 18, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Well, I have been writing lots of truth about Cairo and Benghazi since they happened, including the fact that both were planned and the government of both countries and the US had warnings about them before they concerned. I even sent all of it to — GASP! — the Mitt Romney campaign with links to everything, including the websites in the ME. They had it BEFORE the 3rd debate.

I KNOW that they got it because I delivered information to them earlier that they used. Same people.

Resist We Much on November 18, 2012 at 10:28 PM

PatriotGal2257 on November 18, 2012 at 10:01 PM

Thanks for the links-now how do I explain the unexplainable! The GOP is toast!

wolverinefan on November 18, 2012 at 10:29 PM

In 2010 the Tea Party wins the House. What happens? The GOP betrays its base and provides no meaningful pushback against Obama, rubber stamping every he asks for: More debt and spending, more funding of Obamacare.

Total betrayal.

2012, the establishment manages to get their candidate of choice to run against Obama. What do they do, they kick the Tea Party to the curb at the convention. Spitting in the face of the most active members of its base. They lose a ton of Paulian and Tea Partiers.

What more do you need as evidence of their disdain for you? For years and years I’ve been telling you that they will betray you time and again. And I’ve been right all the way through. And they are about to do it again. You don’t think Boehner’s going to cave on whatever Obama wants? Do you think he’ll defund Obamacare? Just look at how Reid runs the Senate with an iron fist. Just look how he ran it when Bush was in office, he immediately called certain legislation as DOA. Why won’t the GOP do this?

Because they don’t care to reduce the size of government. Because they don’t care to turn this nation back to its founding principles. And because you stupid fools won’t do anything the next time they betray you except complain until it’s time to reelect them again. Which you will do.

What’s the definition of insanity?

The GOP will betray you

True_King on November 18, 2012 at 10:30 PM

Come to think of it…wasn’t Sarah on a ticket with McCain at one time? Hmmm.

Solaratov on November 18, 2012 at 10:20 PM

And was the only thing that kept him as close as he came. She, as an individual, may not be the answer, although I think the world of her. But her (and my) view of where the country is and where it needs to go to survive are the same, for the most part.

Her attitude and vision of what this country should be about are specifically what I’m talking about when I say I’m done with the GOP and we need a constitutionally-based third party. Win or lose.

She was sabotaged by the McCain people, and if you followed it as closely as I imagine you did, you know that. Not making excuses for her, just stating facts.

predator on November 18, 2012 at 10:30 PM

Or voter fraud switched their votes to Obama.

SWalker on November 18, 2012 at 10:24 PM

maybe, but those key precincts he won in swing states were black precincts so that was clearly race based voting encouraged by New Black Panthers and Pub poll watchers’ ejections.

The SoCons that turned out to vote, maybe voted for Obama cause he’s the “Christian”. In other words – DARN I hate SoCons.

Slade73 on November 18, 2012 at 10:30 PM

I read somewhere that 80% of the journalists in the US self identified as Democrat. 13% as Republican and 7% as Other…whatever that is.

They are partisan. That is what they are.

Terrye on November 18, 2012 at 10:13 PM

And they’re all married or have been married to high-ranking Dems, or they’ve worked in the Dem party as advisers themselves. They all go to the same cocktail parties and have their own little JournOList to coordinate talking points. Total institutionalized “journalistic” inbreeding.

Conservatives should take a page from the unions and start “salting” the newsrooms around the country. Yeah, it would take a while, and the conservatives in question would have to be very good actors and actresses while they were working within, but it could be done.

PatriotGal2257 on November 18, 2012 at 10:31 PM

Rational Thought on November 18, 2012 at 10:02 PM

No need for such desperation… We have been in much worse than this including a Civil War, a real Civil War where hundred of thousands of people were killed and millions were injured… Work on the White Vote to get it to 70% on our side and get a little more from the Latino vote (35%)…

mnjg on November 18, 2012 at 10:31 PM

cynccook: “Conservatives are an endangered species, my friends”.

Hey, can the last conservatives standing at least have their own island? Or just give us Mexico. Heck, most of that population is already here anyhow.

Wow, a fantasy. Israel (minus the liberals already there) & US conservatives move into Mexico. First thing on the agenda: an impenetrable border. Make sure we have a copy of the Constitution…or just give us the original; the liberals have been trashing it for years.

Belle on November 18, 2012 at 10:31 PM

Romney is far from toxic. He’s the most decent man I’ve ever seen run for the Presidency.

MrX on November 18, 2012 at 10:31 PM

cynccook on November 18, 2012 at 10:21 PM

According to a study by the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, 70% of Texans were Abglos in 1980. It predicted that Hispanics will overtake Anglos in Texas by 2020 and will represent 70% of the state’s population in 2040.

Texas could well become another California. Remember that between 1948 and 1988 California voted for every Republican except Goldwater.

By being compassionate and refusing to secure the border or deport illegals we have pretty much given our country away.

bw222 on November 18, 2012 at 10:31 PM

DARN I hate SoCons.

Slade73 on November 18, 2012 at 10:30 PM

you listening ED? You probs wrote in Santorum.

Slade73 on November 18, 2012 at 10:31 PM

I predicted a Romney loss, and I told you why he woulds. For that, I was a “nut”. I was right. You were wrong. Now please tell us again how the GOP can win next, k?

ddrintn on November 18, 2012 at 9:59 PM

So that makes you some of a hero? Your rubbing our noses in it is boring and tedious.

JPeterman on November 18, 2012 at 10:12 PM

I have no idea who you are, JPeterman – but this is the most coherent, cogent and perspicacious post on this thread. It also explicitly illustrates why this very post from Allahpundit is the LEAST helpful thing one could do.

Thank you.

williamg on November 18, 2012 at 10:33 PM

DARN I hate SoCons.

Slade73 on November 18, 2012 at 10:30 PM

We don’t like you much either.

bw222 on November 18, 2012 at 10:33 PM

Romney is far from toxic. He’s the most decent man I’ve ever seen run for the Presidency.

MrX on November 18, 2012 at 10:31 PM

what about Fred Thompson?!?! :)

Slade73 on November 18, 2012 at 10:34 PM

Romney is far from toxic. He’s the most decent man I’ve ever seen run for the Presidency.

MrX on November 18, 2012 at 10:31 PM

Again – simply stated, erudite and perspicacious. Thanks – I agree.

williamg on November 18, 2012 at 10:34 PM

We don’t like you much either.

bw222 on November 18, 2012 at 10:33 PM

that’s the problem with SoCons – no tolerance whatsoever. They don’t know the meaning of the “Big Tent”

By the By, I’m a lifelong Christian. Do you still not like me?

Slade73 on November 18, 2012 at 10:35 PM

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