Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on November 18, 2012 by Allahpundit

[C]ould the Romney campaign have done more to make their guy likable when it counted?

I’ve heard a few theories on this from people who either covered the campaign from the outside or were close with those who ran it from the inside. The most widespread explanation is that the campaign made a deliberate decision to limit the resources spent selling Romney-the-man. The thinking was that they couldn’t beat the president on likability in any event, and were better served by selling Romney, to paraphrase Ramesh Ponnuru, as a robot programmed to create jobs. A second, less obvious but perhaps more intriguing, theory is that leading with an account of Romney’s good deeds would have entailed delving deeply into the weeds of Mormonism (because, for example, much of Romney’s personal kindnesses came in his capacity as a church leader, and much of his charitable donations came in the form of tithing) and that this would have opened a whole new can of invertebrates that the campaign wasn’t eager to deal with.

One or both may well be true, and, combined with Romney’s apparent constitutional incapability to pat himself on the back for being a decent human being, they may have made the cuddlization of Romney a dubious strategy. But it isn’t as if the campaign worked to keep the stories secret. It did what it could, in convention testimonials, in YouTube ads, and in the mouths of surrogates (not least Paul Ryan in the nationally televised VP debate, though his boosterism was lost in the vice president’s Nicholsonesque cackling), to spread the word. But it was not preponderating.

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The messy aftermath of his failure suggests that Romney, a political amalgam with no natural constituency beyond the business community, is unlikely to play a significant role in rebuilding his party, many Republicans said this week.

“He’s not going to be running for anything in the future,” said Rep. Raúl R. Labrador (R-Idaho), who sharply criticized Romney’s comments about Hispanics. “He’s not our standard-bearer, unfortunately.”

Romney adviser Stuart Stevens strongly disagreed, calling Romney “the most popular Republican on the national scene at the moment,” given the votes he received on Election Day. Views of defeated candidates can change dramatically over time, Stevens added.

“Even those who have been critical of the campaign on our side realize in the end that Governor Romney was resonating with millions of Americans and was running the kind of campaign we could all be proud of,” Stevens said.

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In the countless hours I spent in Romney’s presence during his first White House run (and mostly from a greater distance during his second bid), I saw a man who was preternaturally upbeat, well-meaning, and kind to just about everyone he encountered, friends and strangers alike.

But I also saw a candidate who seemed by nature almost uniquely ill-equipped to appeal to the young and minority voters who ended up playing a key role in his electoral demise.

Members of the press who traveled with Romney in 2007 and early 2008 began slowly to pick up on what would become an established media narrative by the time Romney was the 2012 front-runner: The former Massachusetts governor didn’t just have a difficult time relating to young and minority voters, he often came across as a walking-talking time warp from the 1950s…

Romney’s overall argument was that he would make the economy better for everyone. But he steadfastly refused to take the next step and make his case on a narrower level, convincing critical demographic groups that he would specifically improve their lives and their communities.

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Romney is being erased with record speed from his party’s books for three reasons. First, many Republicans backed him because they thought he had a good chance of winning; that appeal, obviously, is gone. Second, Romney had shallow roots, and few friends, in the national Republican Party. And those shallow roots have allowed Republicans to give him a new role: As a sort of bad partisan bank, freighted with all the generational positions and postures that they are looking to dump.

“Romney is now a toxic asset to unload,” the historian Jack Bohrer remarked Saturday. “The only interesting thing left to his story is how they dispose of him.”…

There is an irony that Romney, the moderate, will be forced to carry off Todd Akin’s baggage on reproductive rights; Joe Arpaio’s on immigration; and James Dobson on gay rights. But when he cast popular policies as “gifts” to Obama voters (ignoring both his and Obama’s expensive promises to older voters), his decision to, as Bobby Jindal put it, “insult” the demographic groups who are a larger part of each successive electorate offered the Republicans the pivot they had been looking for toward presenting a younger, more diverse, and more inclusive party.

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“If we want people to like us, we have to like them first. And you don’t start to like people by insulting them and saying their votes were bought,” Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, chairman of the Republican Governors Association, told the “Fox News Sunday” program…

Jindal said: “We need to make it very clear – we’re not the party trying to protect the rich. They can protect themselves. We are the party that wants growth, pro-growth policies.”

Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, vice chairman of the Republican Governors Association, also called for a more inclusive message from Republicans…

“We have to show that we are serious about reaching out and helping everyone, not just a group here, not just a group there,” Walker added.

***

In 2008, Republicans again preached the gospel of Rove and his allies—Ed Gillespie, Dana Perino, and basically everyone tied to American Crossroads. They told us that only John McCain could defeat this amateur, Barack Obama. Obama was too liberal for the electorate, they said. He had too much baggage. The country liked the Bush administration’s approach more than the “biased” polls let on. McCain was a perfect nominee because he was not an ideologue. (At one point after his loss to Bush in 2000, McCain even flirted with being a Democrat.) This guy was back and forth on so many issues that nobody was ever certain where he might land. That made him an ideal candidate to reach out to moderates and independents. Say, any of that sound familiar?

In 2012, these same people came back again, as overconfident and unchastened as ever. This time, they had most of the right-wing media on their side, regurgitating their views and attitudes to the exclusion of all others. Mitt Romney was the perfect candidate to stop Obama—so much so that anyone who got in his way was immediately attacked and marginalized. Rove used his perch as an “analyst” on Fox News to personally attack not only Newt Gingrich (who I worked for), but Herman Cain, and Sarah Palin, and Rick Perry, and Jon Huntsman, and on and on. So what if Mitt Romney once berated the Republican Party, the Reagan administration, pro-lifers, and the religious right—in other words, his own party’s base. Republicans needed him to win…

When I worked with Rove briefly at the White House, I found him to be a smart, energetic, capable man. Maybe more than I even realized. In the past two election cycles, he and his acolytes have personally helped Barack Obama get elected and yet made millions in the process. You tell me who the dummy is—Rove or the people who keep listening to him and funding him. Come to think of it, who really deserves the blame for what’s befallen the GOP?

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What unites all of these stories is the growing failure of America’s local associations — civic, familial, religious — to foster stability, encourage solidarity and make mobility possible.

This is a crisis that the Republican Party often badly misunderstands, casting Democratic-leaning voters as lazy moochers or spoiled children seeking “gifts” (as a certain former Republican presidential nominee would have it) rather than recognizing the reality of their economic struggles.

But if conservatives don’t acknowledge the crisis’s economic component, liberalism often seems indifferent to its deeper social roots. The progressive bias toward the capital-F Future, the old left-wing suspicion of faith and domesticity, the fact that Democrats have benefited politically from these trends — all of this makes it easy for liberals to just celebrate the emerging America, to minimize the costs of disrupted families and hollowed-out communities, and to treat the places where Americans have traditionally found solidarity outside the state (like the churches threatened by the Obama White House’s contraceptive mandate) as irritants or threats.

This is a great flaw in the liberal vision, because whatever role government plays in prosperity, transfer payments are not a sufficient foundation for middle-class success.

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Early QOTD tonight. Cats are busy again?

22044 on November 18, 2012 at 8:03 PM

Firshop.

Paul-Cincy on November 18, 2012 at 8:03 PM

[C]ould the Romney campaign have done more to make their guy likable when it counted?

To paraphrase Mr. Obama’s tart “compliment” about Hillary Clinton:

Mitt Romney was likeable enough.

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on November 18, 2012 at 8:07 PM

I can’t stand Rove. If I could, I would send his book back to him.

Pecos on November 18, 2012 at 8:07 PM

On topic, no worries

The gift that gives on giving

Schadenfreude on November 18, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Don’t blame me. I voted for Rick Perry in the primaries.

bitsy on November 18, 2012 at 8:11 PM

The Republican Party needs to stop insulting voters

Fools from the left, fools from the middle, fools from the right, and fools who stayed home:

Obama insults all of you every day, repeatedly.

You are such suckers.

May you all starve, soon.

Schadenfreude on November 18, 2012 at 8:11 PM

So who is going to primary Lindsey Graham?

Jon0815 on November 18, 2012 at 8:13 PM

I should’ve bet money not just on Romney losing but why. The ‘Campaigner-in-Chief’ as he was known early on, spent almost four years solidifying his base by playing Santa to unions, banks, green energy ideologues, homosexuals with DADT and gay-marriage, Obamacare, DREAM act and a non-stop cornucopia of promises in the offing. His re-election team was his election team from 2008, working tirelessly with a slobbering media to right his wrongs and pretty much make the guy out to be deity. Romney was up against the most powerful political machine ever assembled and they spent four years buying votes. There was no way Romney could win because there was no way Obama could lose.

LizardLips on November 18, 2012 at 8:15 PM

Don’t blame me. I voted for Rick Perry in the primaries.
bitsy on November 18, 2012 at 8:11 PM

You mean the man who gave Team O the blueprint for Bain attacks?

Nice.

blatantblue on November 18, 2012 at 8:16 PM

I might have added student loans and welfare restrictions lifted but, what the hell, it doesn’t matter anymore.

LizardLips on November 18, 2012 at 8:17 PM

Please stop !
The navel gazing is disgusting .
Keep it up ” stupid party ” .
You all look like a bunch of losers .
We lost ( I think ) , move on .
Keep conserative values in tact .
I’m angry at most talking heads
that say we need to dilute our principles .
The libs never comprise or back down .
Gramnisty was a disgrace in the second half of
his interview on NBC .
They don’t want Rice for sec state but they might settle
for Lurch ?
They won’t filibuster her ? WTF ?
Sorry to rant but I’ve had it

Lucano on November 18, 2012 at 8:18 PM

…theories on this from people who either covered the campaign

The people that covered Romney, in the primary and after were not there to do journalism.

A typical campaign day would go by, a lot of conservatives would interact with Romney, talk, ask questions. The lines would get longer, they didn’t notice. Romney said smart things, patriotic things, they waited to find some sound bite they could put thru the liberal megaphone.

I remember a day in the primary, where Romney attended something like the chamber of commerce or rotary Economic Roundtable, dry talk about the economy, business, money,…not of interest to these journalists. I watched it on video. I could have come up with about 100 interesting stories for JOURNALISTS to write. I also heard Romney support Cut Cap and Balance and support the republicans in the Congress.

The journalists said, Romney is not willing to comment on the current financial problems in D.c. even though he talked at length that day. They said he does not give any support to the repblicans on cut cap and balance, hasn’t even mentioned it, said Carl Cameron of Fox, Who had emerged from a nap in his trailer, without any makeup on, but it doesn’t matter.

At the end of the long day, a ponytailed journalist said to Romney “how are you gonna end the gridlock in Washington” as if WE wanted it ended. Romney said he did not have any trouble talking sense to democrats…etc. The headline of that day in the L.A. times, the only paper to bother with an article: Romney says he can work with Democrats. Great. Conservatives went wild.

Why would we listen to the opinion of people who “covered” the campaign.

Fleuries on November 18, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Don’t blame me. I voted for Rick Perry in the primaries.

bitsy on November 18, 2012 at 8:11 PM

I never got to :(

gophergirl on November 18, 2012 at 8:19 PM

May you all starve, soon.

I was going to say, f*ck off, eat sh*t & die but yours will do.
Thanks, schadenfreude.

LizardLips on November 18, 2012 at 8:19 PM

So who is going to primary Lindsey Graham?

Jon0815 on November 18, 2012 at 8:13 PM

Congressman Tim Scott (R)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Scott_%28politician%29

sentinelrules on November 18, 2012 at 8:19 PM

The Republican Party needs to stop insulting voters

And HotAir needs to stop insulting my intelligence by continuing to beat this dead horse.

Enough already.

JPeterman on November 18, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Like rush said

Over 50 percent of those exit polled still blame bush for the economy.

How can you beat that?

Messaging is still a problem too. Look at all the republifools on tv. In response to the charge they are looking out for the rich on the fiscal cliff, they drone on about the general talking point of job creators.

Stop. Change it up for once.

Remind voters that a 1.6 trillion dollar hike over ten years won’t erase the 16 trillion dollar debt we have now.

Damnit start saying something new

blatantblue on November 18, 2012 at 8:21 PM

And HotAir needs to stop insulting my intelligence by continuing to beat this dead horse.

Enough already.

JPeterman on November 18, 2012 at 8:21 PM

AMEN

The way some on our side have been whining since the election – I don’t even want to support them

gophergirl on November 18, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Damnit start saying something new

blatantblue on November 18, 2012 at 8:21 PM

YEP

gophergirl on November 18, 2012 at 8:23 PM

sentinelrules on November 18, 2012 at 8:19 PM

You Heard It Here First: Senator Tim Scott 2016!!!

M2RB: Bonnie Tyler

Resist We Much on November 18, 2012 at 8:23 PM

Just buy ammo. That’s the only meaningful thing to do.

wolly4321 on November 18, 2012 at 8:23 PM

Good Lord those Steeler uniforms are FUGLY.

gophergirl on November 18, 2012 at 8:24 PM

…Romney was a good man…and the right person for what needs to start being done…someone beside Romney screwed up!

KOOLAID2 on November 18, 2012 at 8:27 PM

LOL. Go check Drudge’s headline story.

“CLOWN CHRISTIE GOES ON ‘SNL’ AS RESIDENTS SUFFER”

Mark1971 on November 18, 2012 at 8:30 PM

More navel gazing. Yay.

kim roy on November 18, 2012 at 8:31 PM

[C]ould the Romney campaign have done more to make their guy likable when it counted?

Yeah…

Put on 200 pounds..
Grow a mustache and beard..
And learn to to say Ho..Ho..Ho.

Electrongod on November 18, 2012 at 8:31 PM

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canopfor on November 18, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Jindal said: “We need to make it very clear – we’re not the party trying to protect the rich. They can protect themselves. We are the party that wants growth, pro-growth policies.”

Getting tired of saying this, but Romney said the same thing during the campaign.

SAZMD on November 18, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Good Lord those Steeler uniforms are FUGLY.

gophergirl on November 18, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Not the bumble bee/convict stripes again?

bettycooper on November 18, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Not the bumble bee/convict stripes again?

bettycooper on November 18, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Yep.

gophergirl on November 18, 2012 at 8:33 PM

This continual circular-firing-squad “blame game” has got to stop. If there are lessons to be learned, then learn them. Pointing fingers now is like locking the barn door after the horse has been stolen — worthless. Learn your lessons, and press on, and stop whining, “It’s all _______’s fault!”

Excuses and blame don’t get the job done.

RoadRunner on November 18, 2012 at 8:33 PM

LOL. Go check Drudge’s headline story.

“CLOWN CHRISTIE GOES ON ‘SNL’ AS RESIDENTS SUFFER”

Mark1971 on November 18, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Mark1971:Maybes,Christie is in competition,with GaffeBiden.(sarc):)
===================================================================

Vice President Biden’s ‘Parks and Recreation’ cameo (VIDEO)
on November 16, 2012 at 10:22 am
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/11/16/vice-president-bidens-parks-and-recreation-cameo-video/

canopfor on November 18, 2012 at 8:35 PM

Why would we listen to the opinion of people who “covered” the campaign.

Fleuries on November 18, 2012 at 8:18 PM

And yet here they all are picking over the carcass of Romney in order to attempt to ingratiate themselves to a media that will at the first opportunity knife them in the back.

This is why I don’t think these clowns will ever figure it out.

They don’t deserve our support. Don’t give it.

kim roy on November 18, 2012 at 8:35 PM

note to GOP…. “Conservatism wins every time it is tried.”

maineconservative on November 18, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Don’t blame me. I voted for Rick Perry in the primaries.
bitsy on November 18, 2012 at 8:11 PM

You mean the man who gave Team O the blueprint for Bain attacks?

Nice.

blatantblue on November 18, 2012 at 8:16 PM

Aha, but see, if we had nominated Perry, he would have actually attacked Obama.

Actually, I am joking around here. I admire and respect Romney, and I don’t really think anyone would have been a better candidate.

bitsy on November 18, 2012 at 8:37 PM

AMEN

The way some on our side have been whining since the election – I don’t even want to support them

gophergirl on November 18, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Then why support them? They learn nothing and take us for granted.

Look into federalism or independent candidates. If someone smart and viable were to start a third party, then they’d be worth a hard, long look. We’re getting nowhere now. Why not get nowhere with fellow believers instead of these spineless fools.

kim roy on November 18, 2012 at 8:38 PM

“CLOWN CHRISTIE GOES ON ‘SNL’ AS RESIDENTS SUFFER”

Mark1971 on November 18, 2012 at 8:30 PM

And not just Sandy.
New Jersey leads the top ten high-income states over January’s fiscal cliff. $101K family income will see an increase of $7K in taxes.
Maryland is right behind. (h/t Barron’s)

bettycooper on November 18, 2012 at 8:39 PM

Out of the Republican primary gate Romney was not my first choice, but I have now grown very tired of hearing the Republican elite dishing him.

This is a crisis that the Republican Party often badly misunderstands, casting Democratic-leaning voters as lazy moochers or spoiled children seeking “gifts” (as a certain former Republican presidential nominee would have it) rather than recognizing the reality of their economic struggles

Uh, free iphones?, free contraception?, free abortions? the perception of free health care (and, yes, I have liberal friends who think they are gonna get free health care from Obamacare), pray tell what am I supposed to think?

The public voted and Obama was re-elected. The Republicans should sit back and let the Bush tax cuts expire and when the middle class gets that surprise the Republicans should accept their thanks that they have listened, they learned their lesson that the public doesn’t want a contentious government and they are on board to support the President’s tax hikes.

DaveDief on November 18, 2012 at 8:39 PM

Don’t blame me. I voted for Rick Perry in the primaries.

bitsy on November 18, 2012 at 8:11 PM

I never got to :(

gophergirl on November 18, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Okay okay okay. He had dropped out by the time we had our primaries. I should have said, “I *wish* I could have voted for him.”

Consolation prize: he is still governor of Texas! I wouldn’t want to live anywhere else right now.

bitsy on November 18, 2012 at 8:41 PM

kim roy on November 18, 2012 at 8:38 PM

Because third party candidates are a sure recipe for a Democrat win. I’ve seen it happen twice here in Minnesota.

gophergirl on November 18, 2012 at 8:41 PM

AMEN

The way some on our side have been whining since the election – I don’t even want to support them

gophergirl on November 18, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Well, from the looks of the traffic here, I think everyone has tuned out and moved on.

JPeterman on November 18, 2012 at 8:41 PM

My whole life,, I just wanted to be a line worker cranking out twinkies. My union teacher said pensions are the bomb.

wolly4321 on November 18, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Consolation prize: he is still governor of Texas! I wouldn’t want to live anywhere else right now.

bitsy on November 18, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Lucky duck.

I still think if he had made it to the general – we would be talking about President-elect Perry.

gophergirl on November 18, 2012 at 8:42 PM

canopfor on November 18, 2012 at 8:32 PM
or here….laffs who else would watch this stuff…
perhaps there is something wrong with us…

http://www.space.com/17933-nasa-television-webcasts-live-space-tv.html

going2mars on November 18, 2012 at 8:42 PM

So who is going to primary Lindsey Graham?

Jon0815 on November 18, 2012 at 8:13 PM

(S)he is up for re-election in 2014. Someone. please primary Miss Lucy.

bw222 on November 18, 2012 at 8:42 PM

The “sheeple” got what they wanted, another four years of failure disguised by the lame stream media as “progress”. When the bad times come, I hope all those voters will remember that is what they choose when “big daddy” government isn’t there to save their bacon. The American electorate has chosen to sow the ice, now let them harvest the wind. And the GOP can go to hell until they grow a pair and fight the deathocrats as the enemy rather than the opposition.

djtnt on November 18, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Well, from the looks of the traffic here, I think everyone has tuned out and moved on.

JPeterman on November 18, 2012 at 8:41 PM

I think people are just tired. I know I am.

gophergirl on November 18, 2012 at 8:43 PM

To this day, I still cannot understand why whenever given the chance to be in front of camera or microphone…

… The GOP didn’t start the conversation off with this:

“At President Clinton’s direction, no fewer than 10 federal agencies issued a chilling ultimatum to banks and mortgage lenders to ease credit for lower-income minorities or face investigations for lending discrimination and suffer the related adverse publicity.”

The Dems do it, especially when it is a lie…

… but this was a major cause in the collapse of our economy, and the truth.

Find out which political elite ruling class RINO said this would be a bad topic drilled into the subconscious of the American psyche and into pop culture…

… and have him skinned.

In fact, let us get rid of all of our political elite ruling class consultants, find a True Conservative, and take the message to the people how much money they owe, their children owe, and their children’s children owe thanks to our National debt…

… At least it’s a place to start.

Seven Percent Solution on November 18, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Yes Kim, even at Fox, they let AP or Reuters or the NYT which hardly generates ANY NEWS in ObamaWorld phrase the questions. They call an arpeggio of questions on the AP headline “reporting.”

Reporters set the agenda – real reporters. These ARE wimps. They should know the news BEFORE AP writes it up for them.

I guess it isn’t easy.

Fleuries on November 18, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Because third party candidates are voter fraud is a sure recipe for a Democrat win. I’ve seen it happen twice here in Minnesota.

gophergirl on November 18, 2012 at 8:41 PM

bw222 on November 18, 2012 at 8:45 PM

bw222 on November 18, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Well that too.

gophergirl on November 18, 2012 at 8:45 PM

The election is over and no need to dwell on the past and the blame game… For next four years we need to focus on increasing our share of the White Vote to 65% even go as much as 70% by constantly talking about the Welfare State that is sucking hundreds of billions of tax payers money each year… We also need to increase our share among Latinos to 35%…

mnjg on November 18, 2012 at 8:46 PM

Seriously grown men should not have to wear what the Steelers are wearing tonight.

I don’t know what is worse the khaki pants, the striped knee socks or the numbers the cover almost the entire jersey.

gophergirl on November 18, 2012 at 8:47 PM

Early QOTD tonight. Cats are busy again?

22044 on November 18, 2012 at 8:03 PM

Trolling night at Allahpundit’s favorite Atheist Watering-hole. Rumor has it AP is stalking a legendary Delta girl, (hey, it’s how Beta men spend their Sunday night’s… give him a break)… o_O

SWalker on November 18, 2012 at 8:47 PM

“CLOWN CHRISTIE GOES ON ‘SNL’ AS RESIDENTS SUFFER”

Mark1971 on November 18, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Well we just reelected one clown, Christie could be a shoe in to run against Hillary in 2016.

JPeterman on November 18, 2012 at 8:47 PM

Consolation prize: he is still governor of Texas! I wouldn’t want to live anywhere else right now.

bitsy on November 18, 2012 at 8:41 PM

The perfect answer to all those “only my candidate will do” purists who continue to bash Perry.

cozmo on November 18, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Romney’s overall argument was that he would make the economy better for everyone. But he steadfastly refused to take the next step and make his case on a narrower level, convincing critical demographic groups that he would specifically improve their lives and their communities.

This is the place to point out that the Romney camp did not make use of Ryan as effectively than it might have. Paul Ryan wanted to go into urban areas but was held back. His youth would have made him a natural to appeal to younger voters in that he could have spelled out engagingly (just as he did with the older generation in refuting the Mediscare lies) that the economic plans of the duo would have opened employment doors to them.

Romney had standing ovations when he spoke to the NAACP. Do the pundits forget that fact? Did Romney ever make the same opportunity pitch to Latinos?

onlineanalyst on November 18, 2012 at 8:49 PM

I knew Christie was a RINO traitor all along. Coulter was a nutter for Christie and said Mitt would lose. Then she did a 180 and tried to shill for Mitt assuming everyone would forgit she made an a-hole out of herself.

She bashed Palin and tried to decide our nominee for us as if her reasoning was somehow superior to ours.

Well based on Christie’s RINO maneuverings she is just as much a tool as he is.

I hope I didn’t offend anyone.

SparkPlug on November 18, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Frankly, I’m tired of the blame game, particularly the rush to blame Romney. To be clear, Romney is not a natural campaigner, he isn’t the most smooth speaker and is a bit gaffe prone, though not anywhere near gaffe prone as Bush.

That’s largely irrelevant however. Maybe it was one of his gaffes that pushed Romney over the edge, or maybe it was one of a dozen other things he had no control of. Regardless of what exactly it was that ended up being the death nail for the Romney campaign, we should thank him for his hard work and focus, on learning from our shortcomings.

I say our, because mistakes were widespread this year. The party should have gone into this re-election with a substantial advantage, yet even before we left the primaries it’d turned into a horse race.

This cannot simply be blamed on one person. To do so is to blithely ignore the multitude of areas where we could make improvement, akin to an ostrich hiding its head in the sand.

WolvenOne on November 18, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Well, from the looks of the traffic here, I think everyone has tuned out and moved on.

JPeterman on November 18, 2012 at 8:41 PM

I’ve been busy!

Ain’t tuned out, just bored with the whining and introspection.

I have only cared to comment on the fun stuff.

And where the heck is ALyT? I want her input on the Wal*Mart walkout. Is she leading the Lubbockistan Wal*Mart revolt?

cozmo on November 18, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Did Romney ever make the same opportunity pitch to Latinos?

onlineanalyst on November 18, 2012 at 8:49 PM

He did and he did very well on Univision. They beat the hell out King Obama.

Crickets from the talking heads on Romney’s good appearance there.

JPeterman on November 18, 2012 at 8:53 PM

I do not recall Romney being hostile to Hispanics? Was this negative perception one generated and pushed by the Dem machine?

Wasn’t Rubio’s surrogacy/support supposed to deliver a better outcome for Romney in Florida?

Why didn’t Obama’s weak performance in the Univision townhall interview hurt him? Why didn’t Univision’s “Fast and Furious” special hurt him?

onlineanalyst on November 18, 2012 at 8:54 PM

Why didn’t Obama’s weak performance in the Univision townhall interview hurt him? Why didn’t Univision’s “Fast and Furious” special hurt him?

onlineanalyst on November 18, 2012 at 8:54 PM

To some people, free stuff trumps everything else.

cozmo on November 18, 2012 at 8:55 PM

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canopfor on November 18, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Consolation prize: he is still governor of Texas! I wouldn’t want to live anywhere else right now.

bitsy on November 18, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Lucky duck.

I still think if he had made it to the general – we would be talking about President-elect Perry.

gophergirl on November 18, 2012 at 8:42 PM

I think Perry would have put up a damn good fight. No one would have accused him of going soft on Obama. That being said, I don’t know if he was any more ‘electable’ than anyone else. There is a lot of hatred out there right now towards Texas. There is a lot of hatred out there toward capable, hardworking, successful people.

The sad, bitter truth is that a platform of envy and baby killin’ won this election.

bitsy on November 18, 2012 at 8:55 PM

MittBot 2008: McCain lost because Palin was a drag on the ticket.

MittBot 2012: Mitt lost but we can find fault with him because its totally unknown why we lost. Its a complicated question and so we can’t blame Mitt.

SparkPlug on November 18, 2012 at 8:56 PM

My whole life,, I just wanted to be a line worker cranking out twinkies. My union teacher said pensions are the bomb.

wolly4321 on November 18, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Me too. Except it was Zingers.
At the age of six, I started “line work” in the bathtub lining up washcloths and soaps and never looked back……..
I did not learn of pensions in screwel, so I stayed out of contracts and “regular” employment and went the “self route” and today I continue to be handsomely rewarded for the organizational skilz that I honed in the tub.

bettycooper on November 18, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Romney (is) “the most popular Republican on the national scene at the moment,” given the votes he received on Election Day.

If you discount votes he received from folks voting AGAINST Obama rather than FOR him, I’d say he’s about as popular as herpes.

Wino on November 18, 2012 at 8:58 PM

SparkPlug on November 18, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Cut em’ slack sparky. Decent people were assimilated into the Mitt collective. Only the rabid ABR nutballs have room to crow. It is them we must thank for saving us from a Romney presidency.

cozmo on November 18, 2012 at 8:59 PM

She bashed Palin and tried to decide our nominee for us as if her reasoning was somehow superior to ours.

SparkPlug on November 18, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Anyone who ever thought that Ann Coulter was a “Conservative” must have never actually read anything she wrote or listened to her speak for more than 30 seconds at a time.

Ann Coulter is and always has been a self described libertarian, but mostly, she is a ruthlessly self promotional huckster.

SWalker on November 18, 2012 at 9:00 PM

I’d say he’s about as popular as herpes.

Wino on November 18, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Which makes him only 10,000 times more popular than you.

cozmo on November 18, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Well we just reelected one clown, Christie could be a shoe in to run against Hillary in 2016.

JPeterman on November 18, 2012 at 8:47 PM

I think Christie ruined his chance with the GOP when he embraced obaka and bragged over him.

ladyingray on November 18, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Romney just proved that Obama knows there are 51% of gullible suckers in this country at present.

Who think you can borrow forever with no consequences.

Even after the crash of credit on just such a fallacious principle in 2008.

Until hard knocks reduce the percentage of delusional suckers in the nation, there is no HOPE.

They will believe the slime spewed by those who would play upon their gullibility.

As they believed Romney would ban abortion, end access to contraception, and send women back to the 1950′s.

While being entirely uncritical of Obama’s 4 year stagnation.

profitsbeard on November 18, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Consolation prize: he is still governor of Texas! I wouldn’t want to live anywhere else right now.

bitsy on November 18, 2012 at 8:41 PM

The perfect answer to all those “only my candidate will do” purists who continue to bash Perry.

cozmo on November 18, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Hey, and how about that Ted Cruz? I think he is going to very quickly become the scariest, most evil Republican in the Senate. I think he will be a sharp thorn in Obama’s side.

bitsy on November 18, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Hey, Cozmo! Long time no see (an intelligent post from you)! Have you found an outlet for your aggression that doesn’t involve masturbation?

Wino on November 18, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Where’s Mr. Bmore?

cynccook on November 18, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Why didn’t Obama’s weak performance in the Univision townhall interview hurt him? Why didn’t Univision’s “Fast and Furious” special hurt him?

onlineanalyst on November 18, 2012 at 8:54 PM

Why didn’t Obama’s weak performance in the Univision townhall interview hurt him? Why didn’t Univision’s “Fast and Furious” special hurt him?

onlineanalyst on November 18, 2012 at 8:54 PM

To some people, free stuff trumps everything else.

cozmo on November 18, 2012 at 8:55 PM

You are assuming Obama actually won rather than pulled off the greatest voter fraud in American History. Serious Question here… What if….

SWalker on November 18, 2012 at 9:04 PM

I think Christie ruined his chance with the GOP when he embraced obaka and bragged over him.

ladyingray on November 18, 2012 at 9:02 PM

But but but he will get the indy vote.

/sarc

SparkPlug on November 18, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Quite frankly, this “likeable” meme turned this whole election into a high school popularity contest. Witness the amount of time that Obysmal spent on shallow entertainment television venues and hip hop radio station interviews. Our media turned the seriousness of this election into bread and circuses, throwing away the only two adults in the room: Romney and Ryan.

onlineanalyst on November 18, 2012 at 9:04 PM

I think Christie ruined his chance with the GOP when he embraced obaka and bragged over him.

ladyingray on November 18, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Yea, and the slobbering over him and humping his leg didn’t help either…

SWalker on November 18, 2012 at 9:05 PM

bitsy on November 18, 2012 at 9:03 PM

I’ll reserve judgement until Cruz actually makes some senatorial waves.

Wino on November 18, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Huh? You been inside the bottle lookin’ out again.

cozmo on November 18, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Where’s Mr. Bmore?

cynccook on November 18, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Not sure but he is prolly

a. eating Peach Cobbler
b. painting another Wirlygig.

SparkPlug on November 18, 2012 at 9:05 PM

DEA agent Jack Riley in charge of Chicago field office:

“We have to operate now as if we’re on the Mexican border.”

Wigglesworth on November 18, 2012 at 9:06 PM

I think Christie ruined his chance with the GOP when he embraced obaka and bragged over him.

ladyingray on November 18, 2012 at 9:02 PM

I should have made myself more clear, Hillary and Christie running in the Democrat primary.

JPeterman on November 18, 2012 at 9:06 PM

You are assuming Obama actually won rather than pulled off the greatest voter fraud in American History. Serious Question here… What if….

SWalker on November 18, 2012 at 9:04 PM

I’ll stick with my assumption for now. Its safer.

cozmo on November 18, 2012 at 9:08 PM

ladyingray on November 18, 2012 at 9:02 PM

I should have made myself more clear, Hillary and Christie running in the Democrat primary.

JPeterman on November 18, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Yes, but which one of them will be on top……. Of the ticket….. o_O

SWalker on November 18, 2012 at 9:08 PM

I knew Christie was a RINO traitor all along. Coulter was a nutter for Christie and said Mitt would lose. Then she did a 180 and tried to shill for Mitt assuming everyone would forgit she made an a-hole out of herself.

She bashed Palin and tried to decide our nominee for us as if her reasoning was somehow superior to ours.

Well based on Christie’s RINO maneuverings she is just as much a tool as he is.

I hope I didn’t offend anyone.

SparkPlug on November 18, 2012 at 8:51 PM

I said it once, and I’ll say it again. Coulter has become Kathleen Parker 2.0

predator on November 18, 2012 at 9:08 PM

75% of the primary voters chose someone OTHER than Romney.

I voted for him in the general, but felt no joy in it.

portlandon on November 18, 2012 at 9:08 PM

ladyingray on November 18, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Yea, and the slobbering over him and humping his leg didn’t help either…

SWalker on November 18, 2012 at 9:05 PM

yepper. I wonder what Coulter was/is thinking?

SparkPlug on November 18, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Its safer.

cozmo on November 18, 2012 at 9:08 PM

o_O

SWalker on November 18, 2012 at 9:08 PM

I should have made myself more clear, Hillary and Christie running in the Democrat primary.

JPeterman on November 18, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Now that would be a race. Waddle v. Twaddle

predator on November 18, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Yes, but which one of them will be on top……. Of the ticket….. o_O

SWalker on November 18, 2012 at 9:08 PM

I’m trying to eat dinner here, I did not need that image in my head.

JPeterman on November 18, 2012 at 9:09 PM

knew Christie was a RINO traitor all along. Coulter was a nutter for Christie and said Mitt would lose. Then she did a 180 and tried to shill for Mitt assuming everyone would forgit she made an a-hole out of herself.

She bashed Palin and tried to decide our nominee for us as if her reasoning was somehow superior to ours.

Well based on Christie’s RINO maneuverings she is just as much a tool as he is.

I hope I didn’t offend anyone.

SparkPlug on November 18, 2012 at 8:51 PM

…the truth… shouldn’t hurt!

KOOLAID2 on November 18, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Oh good God enough already. The horse is dead, leave the poor thing alone.

As for the gifts remark…Romney is right. Even the Democrats know it. It is just that people who might hope to run for something in the future do not want to call voters moochers. Looks bad.

Terrye on November 18, 2012 at 9:10 PM

yepper. I wonder what Coulter was/is thinking?

SparkPlug on November 18, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Oh, that’s an easy one…. How many copies her next book would sell, that’s what she is ALWAYS thinking. (Not that there’s anything wrong with that)

SWalker on November 18, 2012 at 9:10 PM

canopfor on November 18, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Energy executives need to take lessons from the folks at NRA on how to protect themselves from enviroterrorists.

“ACTIVISTS CAUSE BROUHAHA AT POLITICO ENERGY EVENT:A Greenpeace activist interrupted POLITICO’s Energy and the Presidency event Thursday, criticizing some of the panelists for their connections to the fossil fuel industry. The environmental group handed out “wanted” posters before the event that accused American Petroleum Institute President Jack Gerard of “climate crimes.” After being led away by security, Connor Gibson, research assistant at Greenpeace, said he wanted to highlight XXXX’s role as an advocate for the coal industry and blamed him for derailing proposed mercury standards at Bush’s EPA. “XXX is paid to create delays on pollution controls, and people have died as a result,” Gibson said, referring to the law firm where XXX works.”

bettycooper on November 18, 2012 at 9:10 PM

I think the HA Trollcott needs to be extended until 2016. There are some nasty little invertebrates lurking around here trying to stir up trouble and set us against each other.

bitsy on November 18, 2012 at 9:11 PM

:(

Axe on November 18, 2012 at 9:11 PM

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