WSJ: Hillary’s on the hot seat, not Rice

posted at 2:31 pm on November 17, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Actually, both Hillary Clinton and Susan Rice have a lot of questions to answer, but the Wall Street Journal is correct — the buck on the failures that led to Benghazi stop at Clinton’s desk, if not Barack Obama’s.  Rice has to be held accountable for fronting a false narrative and explaining who told her to do so, but that’s less important than getting answers as to why and how the US could have left the Benghazi consulate and diplomatic personnel in Libya at such risk, especially after a string of attacks and overwhelming intelligence pointed to the dangers in the region to American interests.  Clinton finally and publicly accepted responsibility more than a month after the attack, but as the WSJ’s editors point out, that has been nothing so far but lip service to accountability:

Last month in interviews from deepest Peru, the Secretary of State said “I take responsibility” for Benghazi.  Except she hasn’t. She was conveniently out of the country for this week’s House Foreign Affairs hearing, and Senate Foreign Relations Chairman John Kerry refuses to hold any hearings on Benghazi. His loyalty may get him a cabinet job, while Carl Levin’s Armed Services Committee also pretends nothing much happened in Libya.

The targets of the attacks and its first victims were diplomats. Chris Stevens died of smoke inhalation in the blaze, becoming the first American ambassador killed in the line of duty in over 30 years. A junior colleague also died. These men were Mrs. Clinton’s “responsibility.” Several hours after the assault on the consulate, members of the jihadist militia Ansar al-Shariah turned on the CIA compound about a mile away, killing two of Mr. Petraeus’s men.

In Congressional hearings last month, career State officials admitted that threat warnings from Benghazi were overlooked and requests for better security turned down. They said Foggy Bottom misjudged the ability of a weak Libyan state to protect them. It’s not clear how high up the chain these concerns went, but over to you, Mrs. Clinton.

For over a week after the attacks, the Administration blamed the YouTube video. Mrs. Clinton didn’t push this misleading narrative in public as enthusiastically as Ms. Rice. Still, she bought into it. The father of Tyrone Woods, a CIA contractor who was killed in Benghazi, told media outlets last month that Mrs. Clinton tried to comfort him by promising that the U.S.-based maker of the video would be “prosecuted and arrested”—though terrorists killed his son.

But it’s not just Hillary, either.  The WSJ goes on to excoriate Obama for pursuing a flabby, oddly passive interventionist policy in Libya with no follow-up — and no apparent regard for the consequences of leaving a power vacuum in a region where terrorist networks already had a toehold.  Not only did Obama initiate the decapitation strategy against the Qaddafi regime, Obama bailed out of it early, was late to recognize a government in Triploi, and then refused to use American resources to help secure the country against the militias.  All of this is the prologue for what transpired in 2012, as Western interests came under repeated attack while State, under Hillary Clinton, refused to provide adequate security even as other Western nations fled Benghazi.

So the questions don’t just end at Hillary Clinton’s desk, either, nor does the “buck.”  And her absence during these hearings certainly makes her declaration of leadership last month look like cheap talk rather than strength and confidence.

On the other hand, Dana Milbank argued yesterday, don’t be so quick to take the spotlight off of Susan Rice, either.  While Milbank thinks that Rice has been made a scapegoat for Benghazi, her actions in this incident as well as a long history of undiplomatic behavior not only led Rice into her current predicament, they also show just how wrong she would be to replace Hillary at State — including a history of taking unnecessary shots at Hillary herself:

Even in a town that rewards sharp elbows and brusque personalities, Rice has managed to make an impressive array of enemies — on Capitol Hill, in Foggy Bottom and abroad. Particularly in comparison with the other person often mentioned for the job, Sen. John Kerry, she can be a most undiplomatic diplomat, and there likely aren’t enough Republican or Democratic votes in the Senate to confirm her.

Back when she was an assistant secretary of state during the Clinton administration, she appalled colleagues by flipping her middle finger at Richard Holbrooke during a meeting with senior staff at the State Department, according to witnesses. Colleagues talk of shouting matches and insults.

Among those she has insulted is the woman she would replace at State. Rice was one of the first former Clinton administration officials to defect to Obama’s primary campaign against Hillary Clinton. Rice condemned Clinton’s Iraq and Iran positions, asking for an “explanation of how and why she got those critical judgments wrong.”

And Milbank allows that Rice’s contribution to the Benghazi narrative has been revealing of her lack of depth:

Compared with this, the flap over Libya is relatively minor — but revealing. It’s true that, in her much-criticized TV performance, she was reciting talking points given to her by the intelligence agencies. But that’s the trouble. Rice stuck with her points even though they had been contradicted by the president of the Libyan National Assembly, who, on CBS’s “Face the Nation” just before Rice, said there was “no doubt” that the attack on Americans in Benghazi “was preplanned.” Rice rebutted the Libyan official, arguing — falsely, it turned out — that there was no evidence of such planning.

True, Rice was following orders from the White House, which she does well. But the nation’s top diplomat needs to show more sensitivity and independence — traits Clinton has demonstrated in abundance. Obama can do better at State than Susan Rice.

In any normal political environment after these kinds of failures, the careers of both Clinton and Rice would be limited to the speaking circuit and book tours of memoirs.  The fact that Hillary still looks like a viable presidential candidate and Rice a potential top diplomat is rather stunning, in context.

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Don’t worry – Clinton will be held accountable. On second thought, worry – Rice will assume her job.

Steve Eggleston on November 17, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Pillory Hillary, fry Rice.

The Rogue Tomato on November 17, 2012 at 2:34 PM

And her absence during these hearings certainly makes her declaration of leadership last month look like cheap talk rather than strength and confidence.

Hillary! is just following in the footsteps of Dear Leader.

And she’s maintaining a low profile, now that Barry no longer really needs her or Billy.

Matter of fact, given all the HOT TOPIC BUTTONS in Washington right now, time for Barry to jet off to South East Asia. One of the current CRITICAL hotspots.

GarandFan on November 17, 2012 at 2:37 PM

no apparent regard for the consequences of leaving a power vacuum in a region where terrorist networks already had a toehold

Many thanks from Israel who are on the receiving end of the missiles taken from Libya and now being used by Hamas against them.

STL_Vet on November 17, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Since this story is “too politicized”, don’t expect a journalistic piece from Jake Tapper either.

Rovin on November 17, 2012 at 2:38 PM

These are Obama’s lies. Talking about Rice is a trap.

forest on November 17, 2012 at 2:39 PM

Let them all feel the heat over their ineptness at handling the Benghazi Terror attack. A special committee needs to be formed to get to the bottom of this damn mess. And, I don’t think the public will allow Obama to use his executive privilege option this time.

SC.Charlie on November 17, 2012 at 2:39 PM

The corrupt legacy media will let nothing happen to Dear Leader or Hillary… She is their candidate for 2016…

d1carter on November 17, 2012 at 2:40 PM

In any normal political environment after these kinds of failures, the careers of both Clinton and Rice would be limited to the speaking circuit and book tours of memoirs. The fact that Hillary still looks like a viable presidential candidate and Rice a potential top diplomat is rather stunning, in context. – Ed Morrissey

True but she is Hillary Clinton …………….. she is untouchable. Or at least many think so.

SC.Charlie on November 17, 2012 at 2:41 PM

A special committee needs to be formed to get to the bottom of this damn mess.

See below on the special committee!

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83993.html
L

letget on November 17, 2012 at 2:43 PM

Let them all feel the heat over their ineptness at handling the Benghazi Terror attack. A special committee needs to be formed to get to the bottom of this damn mess. And, I don’t think the public will allow Obama to use his executive privilege option this time.

SC.Charlie on November 17, 2012 at 2:39 PM

You mean the 62 million morons that voted for Obama???

Or the 59 million that did not???

Because the 59 million who voted for Romney – don’t count in dear leaders eyes……

redguy on November 17, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Last month in interviews from deepest Peru, the Secretary of State said “I take responsibility” for Benghazi. Except she hasn’t. She was conveniently out of the country for this week’s House Foreign Affairs hearing, and Senate Foreign Relations Chairman John Kerry refuses to hold any hearings on Benghazi. His loyalty may get him a cabinet job, while Carl Levin’s Armed Services Committee also pretends nothing much happened in Libya.

…sure am glad the MSM is holding their feet to the fire!…wait…what do you mean it’s just athletes’ feet?

KOOLAID2 on November 17, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Hillary on her twitter feed to Bill…

So there, some one thinks I’m hot….

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 17, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Hot seat? bwahahahaha!

Hillary is safe. See that guy over there behind the curtain? That guy holding the machete?

Trust me, Bill’s ready to protect her.

platypus on November 17, 2012 at 2:52 PM

The corrupt legacy media will let nothing happen to Dear Leader or Hillary… She is their candidate for 2016…

d1carter on November 17, 2012 at 2:40 PM

…unless we make an effort to change the corrupt legacy media before 2016?

KOOLAID2 on November 17, 2012 at 2:52 PM

The State Dept. has the primary responsibility to see to it that its diplomats are safe. Stevens should not have been anywhere near Benghazi on 9/11 without heavy US security. The real question is why was he even there with essentially no protection given the info about jihadist groups in the area. Heads should have rolled for this criminal negligence, but Obama protects his faithful (when he isn’t getting them killed).

Chessplayer on November 17, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Bill Clinton home alone.

Dam, Dam, Dam, this is how I end my days…….shit! shit! shit!

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 17, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Flipping that middle finger gets her the appointment for sure.

docflash on November 17, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Go after Hillary, at her age she can’t say ‘I don’t recall.’or people will assume she has Alzheimers and disqualified to be President in 2017.

meci on November 17, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Gonna be some long, long, long last moments for Bill when your time comes, there by your side, Hillary, still all thighs and those eyes, those eyes those eyes never leave you just watching, watching.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 17, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Bill Clinton home alone.

Dam, Dam, Dam, this is how I end my days…….shit! shit! shit!

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 17, 2012 at 2:54 PM

…who’s under his desk?

KOOLAID2 on November 17, 2012 at 2:59 PM

…unless we make an effort to change the corrupt legacy media before 2016?

KOOLAID2 on November 17, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Excellent idea. This effort could include very wealthy conservatives purchasing and running large media outlets and national network operations. Over time the left would lose large portions of the popular media outlets and in turn their influence would be diminished. Control the media, the channel and the message and you will win elections.

rplat on November 17, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Clinton finally and publicly accepted responsibility more than a month after the attack

Responsibility for what? Railroading a guy into prison for the purpose of covering up the true nature of the attack? I think she promised one of the family members that she would see to it that a youtube video producer would be brought to justice, and off to jail he went.

Buddahpundit on November 17, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Excellent idea. This effort could include very wealthy conservatives purchasing and running large media outlets and national network operations. Over time the left would lose large portions of the popular media outlets and in turn their influence would be diminished. Control the media, the channel and the message and you will win elections.

rplat on November 17, 2012 at 2:59 PM

…we have the audiences in the talk show arena…they can’t seem to survive it unless supplemented…and on cable the corporate parent keeps their loss leaders on the air… it seems by supplementation…BLEED THEM!

KOOLAID2 on November 17, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Story becoming political…….jake tapper seen in a corner crying and whining like a little baby.

NO ONE……has stones anymore but Obama and the Communists/Democrats.

#ugh

PappyD61 on November 17, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Can someone please make something stick on Pres. Teflon.

hillsoftx on November 17, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Rice was one of the first former Clinton administration officials to defect to Obama’s primary campaign against Hillary Clinton.

Wait, doesn’t this make her both a sexist and a racist?????

ScottG on November 17, 2012 at 3:07 PM

Many thanks from Israel who are on the receiving end of the missiles taken from Libya and now being used by Hamas against them.

STL_Vet on November 17, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Israel is the new Mexico.

Barnestormer on November 17, 2012 at 3:07 PM

It’s a known fact that this administration has been instructed not to use the term, Terrorist, and remember how Obama stutters and stammers when asked a question with that term in the question. He always twisted the wording around calling it something else.

mixplix on November 17, 2012 at 3:10 PM

May Obama, Hillary, Rice, Petraeus et all go to Hades, over Benghazi alone.

They are all wussies. The land is scroomed and lied to, from the very top.

All are eunuchs and the fools let them.

Media, may your brains all split apart from what you consume, Obama’s crap, not Beluga caviar.

Schadenfreude on November 17, 2012 at 3:10 PM

the buck on the failures that led to Benghazi stop at Clinton’s desk, if not Barack Obama’s.

They both claimed the buck stops with them.

Then Obama, in a moment of utmost arrogance during his presser, reiterated that he owns it.

Make them!!!

The stupid land deserves Obama/Hillary. They are equally dumb at 3:00a.m.’s phone call.

Schadenfreude on November 17, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Or the 59 million that did not???Because the 59 million who voted for Romney – don’t count in dear leaders eyes……redguy on November 17, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Yup! That is how democracy works my friend. You write off a majority of Americans as moochers, they will write you off by not voting for you. Sucks to be a Romney supporter doesn’t?

HotAirLib on November 17, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Rice needs to be sent to oblivion for being a stupid black woman.

Schadenfreude on November 17, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Hey what happened to that Loyal HA participant Gumby?
/

So predictable.

CW on November 17, 2012 at 3:13 PM

HotAirLib on November 17, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Another idiot celebrating harm to America.

CW on November 17, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Rice is a tyrannical potentate lover. Let her go join them.

To ask this little of the first half black president, and the black UN woman, and the female Sec. of State, are the ultimate form of racism and sexism.

Schadenfreude on November 17, 2012 at 3:14 PM

True but she is Hillary Clinton …………….. she is untouchable. Or at least many think so.
SC.Charlie on November 17, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Including her husband, Bill.

Oh, wait… you mean politically.

Nevermind

LegendHasIt on November 17, 2012 at 3:15 PM

The question NO one asks – why was Amb. Stevens in Benghazi, officially and unofficially, on the anniv. of 9/11?

Schadenfreude on November 17, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Can someone please make something stick on Pres. Teflon.hillsoftx on November 17, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Hate to burst your bubble but it will never happen. You just have to get used to whining for another 4 years.

HotAirLib on November 17, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Hate to burst your bubble but it will never happen. …

HotAirLib on November 17, 2012 at 3:15 PM

You’re a useful idiot and you’re proud of it….sad.

CW on November 17, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Someone gave the “Stand down” order on rescue attempts. It wasn’t Hillary and it wasn’t Rice.

a capella on November 17, 2012 at 3:17 PM

And Milbank allows that Rice’s contribution to the Benghazi narrative has been revealing of her lack of depth:

A.k.a. utter stupidity.

Obama seeks the advice if Sharpton.

Fools rule the land. Enjoy the masquarade.

Schadenfreude on November 17, 2012 at 3:17 PM

The fact that Hillary still looks like a viable presidential candidate and Rice a potential top diplomat is rather stunning, in context.

Not at all.

In a land of Fools they are the smart looters (as in the bad characters of Rand).

Schadenfreude on November 17, 2012 at 3:18 PM

Senate Foreign Relations Chairman John Kerry refuses to hold any hearings on Benghazi. His loyalty may get him a cabinet job, while Carl Levin’s Armed Services Committee also pretends nothing much happened in Libya.

And there is the answer to who is “politicizing” the Benghazi attack.

onlineanalyst on November 17, 2012 at 3:19 PM

You just have to get used to whining for another 4 years.

HotAirLib on November 17, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Suffocate from the latrine slush. Your standards are extremely low.

Schadenfreude on November 17, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Rats and magots are indignant.

Schadenfreude on November 17, 2012 at 3:20 PM

MLK and the feminists aimed for nothing.

Supidity flourishes and is ‘admired’.

Schadenfreude on November 17, 2012 at 3:21 PM

Here is the problem, 52% think the shell game is legit, 48% have checked out. Like everything Uncle Sugar does these days it gets a get out of jail free card. The only voices raising Kane are in a Uncle Sugar lockout.

Limerick on November 17, 2012 at 3:22 PM

…who’s under his desk?

KOOLAID2 on November 17, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Petraeus

Schadenfreude on November 17, 2012 at 3:23 PM

You’re a usefulless idiot and you’re proud of it….sad.
CW on November 17, 2012 at 3:17 PM

FIFY
;-)

LegendHasIt on November 17, 2012 at 3:24 PM

but that’s less important than getting answers as to why and how the US could have left the Benghazi consulate and diplomatic personnel in Libya at such risk

Amen! Somebody has finally got the focus where it should be. As long as we’re running around chasing a “who said what to whom” story, we are missing the elephant in the middle of the room: A United States Ambassador was assassinated. That should never happen. Ever. Period. End of story. Yet, the conservative media seem to be more interested in what talking points were fiddled with after the fact. Even if Obama lied to the American public after the fact, it is not even remotely as significant an event as an American Ambassador being assassinated while at his assigned post.

jdp629 on November 17, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Just remember this: AFTER 9/11, THERE WAS A COMMISSION THAT LOOKED INTO THE ATTACK AND INVESTIGATED THE AGENCIES AND THEIR ROLES. Evidently, THAT wasn’t “politicising” the deaths of 3,000 people.

Resist We Much on November 17, 2012 at 3:24 PM

In any normal political environment after these kinds of failures, the careers of both Clinton and Rice would be limited to the speaking circuit and book tours of memoirs. The fact that Hillary still looks like a viable presidential candidate and Rice a potential top diplomat is rather stunning, in context.

Ed, you are the master of understatement.

onlineanalyst on November 17, 2012 at 3:25 PM

If you ain’t disgusted yet you are looking at the roots instead of the grass.

Limerick on November 17, 2012 at 3:25 PM

The WSJ goes on to excoriate Obama for pursuing a flabby, oddly passive interventionist policy in Libya with no follow-up — and no apparent regard for the consequences of leaving a power vacuum in a region where terrorist networks already had a toehold.

That is a feature….not a bug. That is the real ridiculous par of this that the whole admin needs to answer for.

can_con on November 17, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Yup! That is how democracy works my friend. You write off a majority of Americans as moochers, they will write you off by not voting for you. Sucks to be a Romney supporter doesn’t?

HotAirLib on November 17, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Sucks to be a starved moocher/looter. You ain’t seen nada, yet. Just watch for January, just for starters.

Schadenfreude on November 17, 2012 at 3:27 PM

You write off a majority of Americans as moochers, they will write you off by not voting for you. Sucks to be a Romney supporter doesn’t?

HotAirLib on November 17, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Math isn’t exactly your strong suit, is it? Oh, you’re a lib, of course it isn’t sorry about that.

/last I looked, 47% isn’t a majority

AZfederalist on November 17, 2012 at 3:27 PM

That is the real ridiculous par of this that the whole admin needs to answer for.

can_con on November 17, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Instead we are negotiating. Oh-me-oh-my what can we salvage?

Limerick on November 17, 2012 at 3:29 PM

Yup! That is how democracy works my friend. You write off a majority of Americans as moochers, they will write you off by not voting for you. Sucks to be a Romney supporter doesn’t?

HotAirLib on November 17, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Nah, I sucks to be an Obama supporter when OPM is gone. In my case, I cut you parasites off 4 years ago.

Resist We Much on November 17, 2012 at 3:29 PM

Just remember this: AFTER 9/11, THERE WAS A COMMISSION THAT LOOKED INTO THE ATTACK AND INVESTIGATED THE AGENCIES AND THEIR ROLES. Evidently, THAT wasn’t “politicising” the deaths of 3,000 people.
Resist We Much on November 17, 2012 at 3:24 PM

And curiously, a few of the people on that Commission, were directly and/or indirectly responsible for the situation which allowed it to happen in the first place.

And ‘surprisingly’ they concluded that their prior malfeasance had nothing to do with anything.

Go Figure .

/s

LegendHasIt on November 17, 2012 at 3:30 PM

What was the motive for the cover up?

It’s not obvious to me that Obama merely wanted to hide the fact that al qaeda was still a problem as election day was near. If the people think he’s the guy who got bin Laden, then they’d want to keep him as president to kill more al qaeda. It’s not hard to say “I got bin Laden, but as today’s attack shows, I have more work to do”. Republicans got nothing to come back against that.

I think he knew that he would never be able to bring these particular culprits to justice, so he had to bring a youtube video producer to justice. I think there is something more to these particular terrorists than some al qaeda affiliation.

Obama and his media wanted it to appear that closure happened a few days after the attack. The youtube video guy was arrested and the media reported that some group of American loving Libyans got justice against the culprits. You would be inclined to believe that story when you were under the impression that it was just a group that was sore about some video hurting their feelings and things got out of hand. You know now that the media report was totally fake because no group of citizens would or could get vigilante justice against an army of heavily armed Islamic terrorists.

I suspect that these terrorists were Obama’s little army that he trained and armed and provided air and other support for during the Arab Spring conflict in Libya. These were the rebels. If the KLA had done something like this to Americans after Clinton armed, trained and provided months of air cover for them, they would have had to cover it up just like this one. You can’t bring them to justice without admitting that you created them, so you would be bringing yourself to justice.

Buddahpundit on November 17, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Correction…

Nah, it sucks to be an Obama supporter when OPM is gone. In my case, I cut you parasites off 4 years ago.

Resist We Much on November 17, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Well, 51%…you get what you voted for. Unfortunately.

kingsjester on November 17, 2012 at 3:31 PM

Chimps and baboons. Both will rip your face off. Instead we think they are cute Hollywood extras.

Limerick on November 17, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Many thanks from Israel who are on the receiving end of the missiles taken from Libya and now being used by Hamas against them.

STL_Vet on November 17, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Concerns about Jewish turnout are soooooo November 6th.

Resist We Much on November 17, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Arizona gun shop tells Obama voters to ‘turn around and leave’ because they aren’t ‘responsible’

The owner of a gun shop and firearms training facility in small-town Arizona this week posted a sign telling patrons who voted for President Barack Obama to “turn around and leave” because they have proven they “are not responsible enough to own a firearm.”

http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/17/arizona-gun-shop-tells-obama-voters-to-turn-around-and-leave-because-they-arent-responsible/

Resist We Much on November 17, 2012 at 3:38 PM

“The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam” PBHO speech to UN General assembly Sept 25/12

- intentionally crating a power vacuum in libya
- increasing aid to Muslim brotherhood in Egypt
- snubbing Bibi

Yah, I would say you got a problem on your hands.

can_con on November 17, 2012 at 3:44 PM

..for fronting a false narrative

But wait, isn’t that the definition of a lie? And who told her to lie could be guilty of a cover up, and that could be an impeachable offence, if that person were say; the President of the United States. I really don’t think that this is a minor point.

Go after Rice with all that is legally permitted, and find out who that person is. It doesn’t have to be an either or situation in the investigations, but someone is responsible for the orders, and I want to know who that someone is. I want them to be held accountable. because there will be more Benghazi style attacks in our future if we don’t get to the source and deal with it now.

Constance on November 17, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Don’t blame Hillary. It’s the stupid voters who are at fault.

SparkPlug on November 17, 2012 at 3:49 PM

SparkPlug on November 17, 2012 at 3:49 PM

It is. But…can’t we still blame her, too.:)

kingsjester on November 17, 2012 at 3:51 PM

kingsjester on November 17, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Lolz. Ok you have my permission to blame her just this once.

Hehe. Actually Hill needs to do the perp walk.

SparkPlug on November 17, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Both SOS Clinton and Rice lied – both should be impeached.

Pork-Chop on November 17, 2012 at 3:54 PM

Stupid hens…the foxes are the watchdogs.

Schadenfreude on November 17, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Pork-Chop on November 17, 2012 at 3:54 PM

I say we go for the trifecta. I know in my heart that Scooter was watching it go down in real time in the Situation Room.

kingsjester on November 17, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Omg. If Hill gets impeached then she did manage to rival her hubby in the political sphere.

Haha.

SparkPlug on November 17, 2012 at 3:58 PM

This is stupid. This starts and ends with Obama. He knew what was going on and he’s the one who had to make a decision.

MrX on November 17, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Nobody is going to lose their job over this. The 52%ers just delivered us all into tyrannical fascism, where no govt employee or union member will ever be held accountable for any act of negligence or criminality, no matter how many die. Welcome to the new normal.

Harbingeing on November 17, 2012 at 4:03 PM

The fact that Hillary still looks like a viable presidential candidate and Rice a potential top diplomat is rather stunning, in context.

As a nation we are becoming a sarcasm, a burlesque, nothing but a joke.

VorDaj on November 17, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Resist We Much on November 17, 2012 at 3:38 PM

I saw that earlier. I love it, the guy has guts! Me thinks he will get lots of backlash on that? The gun owners won’t it will be the ones who want to ban guns?
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letget on November 17, 2012 at 4:12 PM

RWM, you can work wonders with this. Scroll down a tad for the picture.

Schadenfreude on November 17, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Okay…

You’re president. You’re facing an election battle. You get news that the consulate in Benghazi is under attack, and you know the people there (30+ ?) have almost no security force to repel the attack. You have no way of knowing that only 4 members of the total group will die (and, indeed, you go to sleep before you hear the outcome of the attack…but that’s a rant for another day…).

What could make potentially having to explain the brutal massacre of 30 or so Americans in Libya–including an ambassador–a more acceptable outcome than having to explain that a rescue attempt to save the 30 or so failed? Why would you risk–with an election right around the corner–doing absolutely nothing to save those people? (Assuming the absolute worst about Obama’s character and competence, a hard-hearted and/or negligent commander-in-chief would still, I think, be sufficiently motivated by public perception to do something and not just rely on a cover-up.)

The cover-up mess is fantastically bizarre and unsettling–and that’s even before a Clinton has tried to explain the lies. But given that nothing was done to help the people and that requests for additional security before the attack were basically ignored, the motivation behind the cover-up is understandable–unless the reasons for doing nothing were incredibly strong (but I’m guessing they weren’t or else there would have been no reason for such a ridiculous and politically damaging cover-up)…or…unless those incredibly strong reasons–reasons that outweighed the value of 30 or so American lives–mostly involved hiding something which, if it was found out, would lead to something worse than losing an election.

butterflies and puppies on November 17, 2012 at 4:33 PM

Or the 59 million that did not???Because the 59 million who voted for Romney – don’t count in dear leaders eyes……redguy on November 17, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Yup! That is how democracy works my friend. You write off a majority of Americans as moochers, they will write you off by not voting for you. Sucks to be a Romney supporter doesn’t?

HotAirLib on November 17, 2012 at 3:12 PM

You leftists really don’t do math very well, do you?

47% is not a majority…even when votes from the dead are counted.

Solaratov on November 17, 2012 at 4:43 PM

You just have to get used to whining for another 4 years.

HotAirLib on November 17, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Enjoy your next 4 years, kid. You’ll get everything you so richly deserve.

Just curious-what are you Leftist Kids going to do in 2017 when O’bamna leaves office? Methinks there’s going to be some massive OWS (O’bamna Withdrawal Syndrome). Probably see folks jumping off bridges and out of windows…

Del Dolemonte on November 17, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Methinks there’s going to be some massive OWS (O’bamna Withdrawal Syndrome). Probably see folks jumping off bridges and out of windows…

Del Dolemonte on November 17, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Good times…Good times. :)

Solaratov on November 17, 2012 at 4:59 PM

Del Dolemonte on November 17, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Good times…Good times. :)

Solaratov on November 17, 2012 at 4:59 PM

Did you see the weak “response” the pro-bin Laden troll left you in the other thread? Pathetic!

Del Dolemonte on November 17, 2012 at 5:07 PM

The fact that Hillary still looks like a viable presidential candidate and Rice a potential top diplomat is rather stunning, in context.

The big Oaf didn’t look like a viable candidate either, but a little more than 50 million Americans voted for him. That tells me Hillary is a shoe in for the nominee and Rice will be rewarded with the SOS post. Expect other nations to take full advantage of our lack of leadership and utter incompetence over the next 4 years.

scalleywag on November 17, 2012 at 5:14 PM

…and no apparent regard for the consequences of leaving a power vacuum in a region where terrorist networks already had a toehold. Not only did Obama initiate the decapitation strategy against the Qaddafi regime, Obama bailed out of it early, was late to recognize a government in Triploi, and then refused to use American resources to help secure the country against the militias.

Look, it isn’t that hard to understand. Egypt and Libya were run by despots who were cooperating with us and advancing our interests. Obama wanted to END our influence in the region. He DOESN’T CARE who replaces those despots, because ALL of them are anti-American.

Mission accomplished. All it cost him was four American lives, and the media is covering for him on that issue.

novaculus on November 17, 2012 at 5:15 PM

Del Dolemonte on November 17, 2012 at 5:07 PM

They really aren’t bright people, are they?

Solaratov on November 17, 2012 at 5:16 PM

The fact that Hillary still looks like a viable presidential candidate and Rice a potential top diplomat is rather stunning, in context.

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Well duh ?
Have you not learned how the this game is played?
What did you not learn from fast n furious?
Are you really that naive to think there is any way this will be allowed to touch Ozero or Clinton 4?
You waiting for Holder to investigate or something……..?

There is no decency. There is only power.
And they have all of it, and a media who will cover it all up.

FlaMurph on November 17, 2012 at 5:29 PM

Yup! That is how democracy works my friend. You write off a majority of Americans as moochers, they will write you off by not voting for you. Sucks to be a Romney supporter doesn’t?

HotAirLib on November 17, 2012 at 3:12 PM

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Reminds me of the Churchill anecdote when a lady accused him of being drunk in public. Well us Romney supporters will be sober in the morning, but you Liberals will always be ugly, mooching, free stuffers, sexually perveted, lonely unhappy people who deny the American spirit for a communist ideal.

Something like that, but you get the point.
Permanent decline.

FlaMurph on November 17, 2012 at 5:39 PM

Del Dolemonte on November 17, 2012 at 5:07 PM

They really aren’t bright people, are they?

Solaratov on November 17, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Dear Leader, who won a record (at the time) 70% of the high school dropout vote in 2008, got even more of them this year. 82% in PA to be exact, 80% in Florida, and 73% of them in NV (CNN).

Del Dolemonte on November 17, 2012 at 5:48 PM

Mrs. Clinton didn’t push this misleading narrative in public as enthusiastically as Ms. Rice.

Excuse me? She blamed the video in the little “eulogy” she delivered over the four coffins of our dead compatriots at Andrews AFB. She also made a video apology blaming the video for broadcast to the Muslim world, to the tune of $70,000 of our dollars.

Despicable.

Naturally Curly on November 17, 2012 at 6:59 PM

Del Dolemonte on November 17, 2012 at 5:48 PM

11/67

Eleven out of sixty seven counties in Pennsylvania went for President Obama but he won the state.

Just curious-what are you Leftist Kids going to do in 2017 when O’bamna leaves office?

Del Dolemonte on November 17, 2012 at 4:28 PM

If the GOP keep bringing impeachment votes, they have to win one eventually.

R U sure our leader has that long a shelf life?

Everyone

When the media was racist they kept the best people out of some jobs.

Wow! What progress we have made!

Now with their political correctness they are…wait a minute..

The addition of victim politics is just another facet of the phony nature of the “leader’s image” in a democracy with a mass media.

We used to irrationally hold the belief that all blacks were very stupid and women too weak. They could not get elected or taken seriously in many areas.

Do you think the media and pop culture fed that idea and reinforced it?

IlikedAUH2O on November 17, 2012 at 9:16 PM

You’re president. You’re facing an election battle. You get news that the consulate in Benghazi is under attack, and you know the people there (30+ ?) have almost no security force to repel the attack. You have no way of knowing that only 4 members of the total group will die (and, indeed, you go to sleep before you hear the outcome of the attack…but that’s a rant for another day…).

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Interesting point about the 30+ people who were there. Where are they? I read somewhere that some of them were in the hospital, but that was weeks ago. Isn’t there some way to find out who they are and where they are? I am amazed that we have heard not a word from any of them. Nothing to support finding out about the killings of the men who saved their lives. WHERE ARE THEY?

francesca on November 17, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Interesting point about the 30+ people who were there. Where are they? I read somewhere that some of them were in the hospital, but that was weeks ago. Isn’t there some way to find out who they are and where they are? I am amazed that we have heard not a word from any of them. Nothing to support finding out about the killings of the men who saved their lives. WHERE ARE THEY?

francesca on November 17, 2012 at 10:55 PM

If they were CIA, I’m guessing they can’t come forward because a) it might endanger other work going on in the area (the exposure of their ties to the Agency might endanger locals working with them, etc.), b) they aren’t allowed to talk openly about anything like that anyway, and c) since such a small group has firsthand knowledge of what went down, it would be pretty easy for the powers-that-be to identify who leaked the info and mete out punishment accordingly. Also, I doubt members of the press are pushing for any of those people to come forward–and given the rabid pro-Obama stance of most journalists these days, I don’t think most of them could be trusted not to “out” any members of the group who might try to comment anonymously on what happened. (Most of this probably applies to any who weren’t CIA, too.)

But…I would think it would be awfully hard for those inside their circle who know the truth to think about how readily their friends/colleagues were abandoned by the administration. Maybe we’ll eventually see secondhand leaks of info or other kinds of helpful leaks that might ensure something like this never happens again. Or maybe someone will go straight to certain members of Congress–and we won’t know that they’ve been talking until someone from some congressman’s office leaks a few details.

butterflies and puppies on November 18, 2012 at 3:22 AM

I’m sure we’ll be seeing photos of Hillary on milk-cartons any day now.

Another Drew on November 18, 2012 at 8:08 PM