Quotes of the day

posted at 10:13 pm on November 16, 2012 by Allahpundit

In the countless hours I spent in Romney’s presence during his first White House run (and mostly from a greater distance during his second bid), I saw a man who was preternaturally upbeat, well-meaning, and kind to just about everyone he encountered, friends and strangers alike.

But I also saw a candidate who seemed by nature almost uniquely ill-equipped to appeal to the young and minority voters who ended up playing a key role in his electoral demise.

Members of the press who traveled with Romney in 2007 and early 2008 began slowly to pick up on what would become an established media narrative by the time Romney was the 2012 front-runner: The former Massachusetts governor didn’t just have a difficult time relating to young and minority voters, he often came across as a walking-talking time warp from the 1950s…

After wrapping up the Republican nomination four years later, he toned down the hokey tales from his youth. But instead of making a concerted effort to cut into President Obama’s advantages with key groups, Romney and his chief strategists seemed to bury their heads in the sand, predicating their hopes for victory on an assumption that young voters and minorities would turn out in lesser numbers than they did in 2008.

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Compassionate conservatism always struck me as a philosophical surrender to liberal assumptions about the role of the government in our lives. A hallmark of Great Society liberalism is the idea that an individual’s worth as a human being is correlated to his support for massive expansions of the entitlement state. Conservatives are not uncompassionate. (Indeed, the data show that conservatives are more charitable with their own money and more generous with their time than liberals are.) But, barring something like a natural disaster, they believe that government is not the best and certainly not the first resort for acting on one’s compassion.

I still believe all of that, probably even more than I did when Bush was in office.

But, as a political matter, it has become clear that he was on to something important

Some sophisticated analysts, such as my National Review colleague Ramesh Ponnuru, always acknowledged the philosophical shortcomings and inconsistencies of compassionate conservatism, but they argued that something like it was necessary nonetheless. The evolving demographics of the country, combined with the profound changes to both the culture and the economy, demanded that the GOP change both its sales pitch and its governing philosophy.

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What the various interest groups need that Republicans have failed to give them is respect, attention, and love.

Yes, as weird as it sounds in a political context – love. Because frankly, I don’t think most Republicans care much about these groups…

I always found George W. Bush’s term “compassionate conservatism” deeply insulting. It asserts that conservatism isn’t on its own compassionate. But while conservatism sometimes offers tough medicine, the cure it provides is deeply compassionate.

Republicans need to go directly into the black communities and ask, “How has 50 years of an expanding welfare state worked out for you?”

They need to go into the Hispanic communities and say, “If policies that are anti-business prevail, how are you going to make enough money get your kids an education so they can take their place at the highest rungs of society?”

Republicans need to talk to women about why conservative economic policies provide the prosperity that guarantees security for their families, and to support working women by backing efforts to give them the time to be mothers too.

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[Romney's] vision of a better America than Obama’s was one that rewarded success rather than penalized it and gave running room to entrepreneurs to realize the American dream.

But such a vision isn’t actually inclusive. It speaks to those whose energies will likely make them successes no matter what they do — and says little to people who don’t think of life in such dynamic terms.

Many people crave security and stability rather than risk-taking, and that doesn’t make them any less American. They are the workers rather than the job creators, and all societies need both.

Romney is right that the Obama vision is too centered on government. But his is too centered on the promotion of business and wealth creation at the expense of everything else.

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“I think President Obama, first of all, just tactically did a better job getting out the vote in his campaign. But number two, he, at least at the margins, was better able to connect with people in this campaign,” Pawlenty said in an interview with C-SPAN’s “Newsmakers” program scheduled to air on Sunday.

“But I don’t think it’s a matter of people looking at the election and saying, ‘I’m going to vote because of gifts,’” he added. “I think they looked at it and said which one of these candidates would they prefer because of leadership considerations and also can understand their needs the best.”

Pressed on whether this meant he disagreed with Romney’s remarks, Pawlenty responded, “You know, I don’t think it’s as simple as saying the president gave out gifts. I just don’t think it’s that simple. There’s a lot more to it than that.”

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Newt Gingrich and Evan Smith discuss Romney’s “gifts” remark in response to Obama’s re-election from KLRU-TV on Vimeo.


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But I also saw a candidate who seemed by nature almost uniquely ill-equipped to appeal to the young and minority voters who ended up playing a key role in his electoral demise.

Hmmm….

cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president#exit-polls

cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#USP00p1

Vote by Age and Race
White 18-29 (11%)[same in both polls]

Obama: 54% – MCain: 44%
Obama: 44% – Romney: 51%

ninjapirate on November 16, 2012 at 10:16 PM

I want a competent president, not a cool one. America just voted for a prom king, not a leader.

TheLoudTalker on November 16, 2012 at 10:16 PM

“I think President Obama, first of all, just tactically did a better job getting out the vote in his campaign.

Just don’t dare call it voter fraud, mmmmkay?

SouthernGent on November 16, 2012 at 10:17 PM

New Steyn…

Tribal America

M2RB: Blue Öyster Cult (cowbell link)

Resist We Much on November 16, 2012 at 10:17 PM

Eye Candy will go bankrupt..

Electrongod on November 16, 2012 at 10:18 PM

Many people crave security and stability rather than risk-taking, and that doesn’t make them any less American. They are the workers rather than the job creators, and all societies need both.

Romney is right that the Obama vision is too centered on government. But his is too centered on the promotion of business and wealth creation at the expense of everything else.

This has got to be one of the dullest and silliest things I have ever read. Where the heck do people think jobs come from? No, there isn’t a job tree out back.

The better a risk taker does, the better a company does and hence the better, more secure and stable the worker is.

Good grief. Really? It is starting to become increasingly apparent, imho, that a third party of people who can actually cognitively think and assess is needed.

kim roy on November 16, 2012 at 10:18 PM

America just voted personality over performance… God help us…

Khun Joe on November 16, 2012 at 10:19 PM

I want a competent president, not a cool one. America just voted for a prom king, not a leader.

TheLoudTalker on November 16, 2012 at 10:16 PM

A prom Queen that needs a few days to make that gutsy call when seconds count..

Electrongod on November 16, 2012 at 10:19 PM

I’m sorry, but Romney’s gifts remark is right on the mark….

Obama wiped his butt twice on the Constitution in order to give hand outs to two different groups in order to help his re-election…

1. The birth control mandate that was given out on the anniversary of Roe v Wade.
2. His amnesty and work permit by executive fiat

BTW, the “war on women” stuff was going absolutely nowhere until Akin came up… but the Akin issue happened before the convention and Romney did absolutely nothing to change the party platform. He deserves to have that issue hound him for not doing something about the platform.

ninjapirate on November 16, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Pressed on whether this meant he disagreed with Romney’s remarks, Pawlenty responded, “You know, I don’t think it’s as simple as saying the president gave out gifts. I just don’t think it’s that simple. There’s a lot more to it than that.”

And yet again, another dipsh!t R politician is yammering away to the media (Politico).

Do these halfwits ever learn?

kim roy on November 16, 2012 at 10:21 PM

So,slap me silly,if you will …. Mitt Romney is a good, decent man. On the other hand, prezboy is nothing more than a “Community Organizer” and a Race Pimp …. So slap me silly …. prezboy is in and the American people are gonna pay, big time ….

dawndawn on November 16, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Republicans need to go directly into the black communities and ask, “How has 50 years of an expanding welfare state worked out for you?”

It is the height of delusion and insanity to try to do anything with the blacks… The super vast majority strongly believe that they are entitled for other people money and they want the taxpayers to take care of their needs… There is no hope with the super vast majority of them… The liberals have destroyed them long time ago and there is no point of return for them from the abyss…

mnjg on November 16, 2012 at 10:26 PM

I guess my answer might be GFY. G…F…Y.

Progressive/Lib/Dems control every aspect of the culture academia and government.

Anyone with one dollar of capital to invest in this economy should sit on it until Diaper Jesus Re-elected is gone forever.

GFY Obama, GFY people who voted for him.

Sacramento on November 16, 2012 at 10:27 PM

if Bush got 100% of the vote in any precinct the media would be all over it

Obama got 100% in a lot of precincts in very key states…just sayin’ *cough, voter fraud!*

Slade73 on November 16, 2012 at 10:27 PM

America just voted personality over performance… God help us…

Khun Joe on November 16, 2012 at 10:19 PM

51% of Americans voted for the Welfare State and socialism… I do not give a damn about the vast majority of these 51% because most of them are from the Parasite Class who are absolutely depending on the taxpayers for survival and worth of all they really believe that they are entitled for other people money…

mnjg on November 16, 2012 at 10:28 PM

Hi Scrumpy.

Where is Lanceman?

SparkPlug on November 16, 2012 at 10:29 PM

And that poor, poor dead horse continues to cry out for the beatings to stop and the cannibalization of the Republican party continues.

JPeterman on November 16, 2012 at 10:30 PM

And yet again, another dipsh!t R politician is yammering away to the media (Politico).

Do these halfwits ever learn?

kim roy on November 16, 2012 at 10:21 PM

The answer is NO to the hell. Currently Boehner, McConnell and the rest of our betters are fixin to give us a memorable Christmas and New Year. I feel all nice and warm–you?

PS, do you like farm living?

arnold ziffel on November 16, 2012 at 10:32 PM

even in Kenya Obama didn’t get 100% of the vote. His brother voted for Romney.

Slade73 on November 16, 2012 at 10:32 PM

Many people crave security and stability rather than risk-taking, and that doesn’t make them any less American. They are the workers rather than the job creators, and all societies need both.

“Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”

- Benjamin Franklin

Resist We Much on November 16, 2012 at 10:33 PM

if Bush got 100% of the vote in any precinct the media would be all over it

Obama got 100% in a lot of precincts in very key states…just sayin’ *cough, voter fraud!*

Slade73 on November 16, 2012 at 10:27 PM

Because the fraud is in black precincts and their is no accountability for blacks… none what so ever…

mnjg on November 16, 2012 at 10:34 PM

mnjg on November 16, 2012 at 10:34 PM

accountability is racist

criticizing Susan Rice is racist

Affirmative Action…not racist

Slade73 on November 16, 2012 at 10:36 PM

At this rate, I won’t be supporting anyone for President in the GOP for 2016. They are all burying themselves dumping on Mitt Romney. Why did he outperform most of the GOP Senate candidates? How did he win independents? Obama got his base out to vote by bribing or scaring them, pure and simple. Mitt may not be choosing his words very politically (why should he?) but he is ultimately right. Saying things like “We need to pursue 100% of the voters” is ridiculous. It’s grandstanding. Do these people really think the MSM is going to let them get away with this?

SAZMD on November 16, 2012 at 10:37 PM

O/T: Remember this lady doctor?

She just lost her job at her hospital and believes it was political. Hospital did not renew her contract.

predator on November 16, 2012 at 10:37 PM

Hang in there Noot!

Lanceman on November 16, 2012 at 10:37 PM

Enough already. Obama got 50.6% of the vote…not 70%. Some soul searching is okay, but this is getting ridiculous.

Terrye on November 16, 2012 at 10:39 PM

Funny how Obowma didn’t run on his record…

… but now he has a mandate to raise taxes, spend trillions more, continue to destroy our energy production, devalue our currency, regulate your Healthcare, appoint Bill Ayers to the Supreme Court, watched as American’s died while they called for help and lied about it, Staten Island has turned into Haiti, and the middle east is about to explode.

But no, we are talking about “Gifts”…

:(

Seven Percent Solution on November 16, 2012 at 10:40 PM

Enough already. Obama got 50.6% of the vote…not 70%. Some soul searching is okay, but this is getting ridiculous.

Terrye on November 16, 2012 at 10:39 PM

50.6%

Starve them!

Electrongod on November 16, 2012 at 10:40 PM

The answer is NO to the hell. Currently Boehner, McConnell and the rest of our betters are fixin to give us a memorable Christmas and New Year. I feel all nice and warm–you?

PS, do you like farm living?

arnold ziffel on November 16, 2012 at 10:32 PM

At least they are running something other than their mouths. In truth, I think Obama would be just as happy to go off that cliff..so maybe they are trying to deprive him of that pleasure.

Terrye on November 16, 2012 at 10:42 PM

Enough already. Obama got 50.6% of the vote…not 70%. Some soul searching is okay, but this is getting ridiculous.

Terrye on November 16, 2012 at 10:39 PM

50.6%

Starve them!

Electrongod on November 16, 2012 at 10:40 PM

That would be a good idea! After all, if the red states cut off the coal, the oil and the food they really would starve.

Terrye on November 16, 2012 at 10:44 PM

accountability is racist

criticizing Susan Rice is racist

Affirmative Action…not racist

Slade73 on November 16, 2012 at 10:36 PM

That is why I find it so stupid when Republicans try or “advised” to make inroads among blacks… There is no way to make inroads among a totally lost segment of our society where a vast majority of them either are totally living on taxpayers expense or partially living on taxpayers expense and on the top of that they believe that they are entitled for other people money… In fact I advise Republicans to make a major part of their campaign the exposure of the destructive Welfare State in the black communities and we should not give a sh*t if we are called racist for speaking the truth… In fact this will increase the Republicans share among White from 60% to 70% and this by itself will give us 50% of the total electoral vote…

mnjg on November 16, 2012 at 10:44 PM

After the 2012 shellacking, does anyone here honestly believe that Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, or Rick Santorum should do anything but disappear from the national spotlight?

Lawdawg86 on November 16, 2012 at 10:44 PM

What a strange surreal day. Happy Friday everybody.

gophergirl on November 16, 2012 at 10:44 PM

I hate to say it, but I don’t think any of these guys actually saw Romney pulling this thing off. Pawlenty left the campaign (and is now on the attack); Newt is still sore about Iowa and Florida, obviously; Christie made out with Barry on purpose to drive the final stake through; and everyone else — well, including Christie and maybe Pawlenty — are all gearing up for 2016 and attacking.

I feel bad for Romney, I really do; but he did have some awful, awful people working for him that totally failed from start to finish.

Punchenko on November 16, 2012 at 10:45 PM

What a strange surreal day. Happy Friday everybody.

gophergirl on November 16, 2012 at 10:44 PM

4 more year of a lame dick..

And it hasn’t started yet..

Electrongod on November 16, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Heh. Loved watching Newt have a little fun at Romney’s expense.

Romney was a bad candidate folks.

We needed a Reagan to run against the New Jimmy Carter. Instead we sent in Gerald Ford and Lost.

As for Romney whining about the 47%, he is the one who was speaking of the cuff and hobbled his own campaign. Of all the gaffes of the campaign season, the “47%” remark hurt him the worst.

portlandon on November 16, 2012 at 10:48 PM

I feel bad for Romney, I really do; but he did have some awful, awful people working for him that totally failed from start to finish.

Punchenko on November 16, 2012 at 10:45 PM

I have more respect for Romney now than ever… He spoke the truth about the nature of the electorate… We simply have to destroy the Parasite class that constitutes the majority of the democrat base…

mnjg on November 16, 2012 at 10:49 PM

Electrongod on November 16, 2012 at 10:46 PM

We had a long lockdown at work today with a report of “shots fired”.

Turned out to be a false alarm but it was surreal.

gophergirl on November 16, 2012 at 10:50 PM

mnjg on November 16, 2012 at 10:26 PM

Sigh. How do you account for the legions of minority parents trying to get their children into better schools? The D.C. Opportunity Scholarship program wasn’t shut down for a lack of interest, any more than charter schools in the inner cities are lacking for applicants. The teacher’s unions don’t oppose school choice simply as a reflex, it presents as existential threat.

Get a grip, already.

wolfsDad on November 16, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Obama: “You didn’t build this”

Romney: “47%”

The people Obama ticked off by his remark were never going to vote for him anyway.

The people Romney ticked off by his remark was the 47%, and atleast 5-7 more percent.

portlandon on November 16, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Romney was a bad candidate folks.

We needed a Reagan to run against the New Jimmy Carter. Instead we sent in Gerald Ford and Lost.

portlandon on November 16, 2012 at 10:48 PM

Could Reagen run against Santa Claus??

It wasn’t in-play back then..

Now it is out in full force..

Reagen would have lost today.

Electrongod on November 16, 2012 at 10:51 PM

After the 2012 shellacking, does anyone here honestly believe that Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, or Rick Santorum should do anything but disappear from the national spotlight?

Lawdawg86 on November 16, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Mitt Romney did not win, but it was not a massacre. I am old enough to remember elections when one guy would win 44 states.

I think they should go away, but I can cut Romney a little more slack. All he did was answer a question as to why he thought he lost..and the truth is he did not say anything that most conservatives do not already believe.

I mean really…do any of us not believe that Obama won by giving people stuff? Even the people who voted for him know that. It is like some strange game we play where no one is supposed to mention an obvious fact.

Terrye on November 16, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Turned out to be a false alarm but it was surreal.

gophergirl on November 16, 2012 at 10:50 PM

Please be safe..

Electrongod on November 16, 2012 at 10:52 PM

After the 2012 shellacking, does anyone here honestly believe that Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, or Rick Santorum should do anything but disappear from the national spotlight?

Lawdawg86 on November 16, 2012 at 10:44 PM

They need to exit the stage and take Bobby Jindal, Marco Rubio and Chris Christie with them.

JPeterman on November 16, 2012 at 10:53 PM

Enough already. Obama got 50.6% of the vote…not 70%. Some soul searching is okay, but this is getting ridiculous.

Terrye on November 16, 2012 at 10:39 PM

Exactly. The numbers show that he barely won, regardless of the electoral count.

I am not one that decries the EC and believe it should remain, but if the EVs were split in proportion to the vote in the state rather than all going to whoever won the majority of votes, we would have seen a much closer outcome.

I think that we are focusing too much on the 47% which are not enough to win and losing sight of the millions that voted for our positions.

We have 30 or more governorships, maybe we need to start working at the state level to reapportion EVs according to percentage of votes.

I wonder what the count would have been if this year’s EVs were doled out by percentages rather than winner take all.

Jvette on November 16, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Good grief. Really? It is starting to become increasingly apparent, imho, that a third party of people who can actually cognitively think and assess is needed.

kim roy on November 16, 2012 at 10:18 PM

…ready!…when?

KOOLAID2 on November 16, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Romney was a bad candidate folks.

We needed a Reagan to run against the New Jimmy Carter. Instead we sent in Gerald Ford and Lost.

portlandon on November 16, 2012 at 10:48 PM

You are dreaming. When Reagan was running for the White House, 30% of the people in this country were dependent on government and 18 could not vote. Today kids can vote and 49% of the people get some sort of support. It is a different world. Reagan would not have had a chance in this world. I really believe that. Neither would Lincoln. Now, FDR might. Sad but true. I do not think JFK would have won either.

Terrye on November 16, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Romney was a bad candidate folks.

portlandon on November 16, 2012 at 10:48 PM

I disagree. And I say that as a Nista and Cainiac.

We all (Romney included) thought there was no way anyone wanted 4 more years of this shit.

Hell, I on several occasions predicted obama would get no more than 40 million votes.

America has gotten far too stupid.

Lanceman on November 16, 2012 at 10:57 PM

When Reagan was running for the White House, 30% of the people in this country were dependent on government and 18 could not vote.

I meant to say 18 year olds could not vote. Excuse me.

Terrye on November 16, 2012 at 10:57 PM

Nothing on Petraus or Rice, AP?

Who is John Galt on November 16, 2012 at 10:58 PM

America has gotten far too stupid.

Lanceman on November 16, 2012 at 10:57 PM

True. And I thought the internet was supposed to make us smarter. Not so apparently.

Terrye on November 16, 2012 at 10:58 PM

Navel-gazing, particularly after a close loss, is counterproductive. The fact is that 8 million fewer voters showed up for Obama this time, he got about 90% of his 2008 vote, and 1.5 million fewer voters showed up for Romney than McCain in 2008.

Obama won by millions of dollars in negative ads against Romney that went for months unanswered (and by the expected voter fraud here and there). This had the effect of of depressing turnout by some Rs and R-leaning indies. It’s that simple.

It wasn’t about failure to reach out to minorities and women (though the Akin comments about “legitimate rape” abortions did fire up that meme toward the end. It wasn’t about “immigration” either.

If there’s been any change at all in the electorate, it’s that negative ads, if not immediately dealt with and answered, work better than ever. Which also means that our candidates can’t hold back from going negative as well, so many opportunities to do so against Obama totally squandered.

I just wish all those idiots on our side would stop their inward-looking analyses and deal with the facts. Wake up, bastards, and smell reality for a change. Nice guys don’t finish first anymore!!!

TXUS on November 16, 2012 at 10:59 PM

O/T: Remember this lady doctor?

She just lost her job at her hospital and believes it was political. Hospital did not renew her contract.

predator on November 16, 2012 at 10:37 PM

…well you know what Val Jarrett said!…expect more of it!

KOOLAID2 on November 16, 2012 at 10:59 PM

I usually give them a good going over AP, and try to comment on them, especially since QOTD walks off topic in the middle of the night as a habit. It’s just — the conversation all those echoes embody had gotten to me. It’s starting to sound like a conversation heard through a pipe circling through a few rooms. The fragments are jumbling together, and even jumbled, the meaning of the sentences doesn’t change, which say everything.

Axe on November 16, 2012 at 11:01 PM

JPeterman on November 16, 2012 at 10:53 PM

Agreed. I finally took Jindal off my Christmas card list after his last rant.

a capella on November 16, 2012 at 11:02 PM

Lanceman on November 16, 2012 at 10:57 PM

I was listening to old man Huntsman today on Fox. He blamed Fox, Karl Rove, Dick Morris and a few others on Romney’s loss.

He said they created this false premise that Romney was going to win in a landslide, which kept some Republican’s home, thinking Romney had it in the bag, so why vote.

JPeterman on November 16, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Could Reagen run against Santa Claus??

It wasn’t in-play back then..

Now it is out in full force..

Reagen would have lost today.

Electrongod on November 16, 2012 at 10:51 PM

No he wouldn’t have. He would have won. I believe that more than ever.

Reagan used to campaign HARD. His campaign staff was EXCELLENT. Reagan hung Iran around the neck of Carter. Reagan destroyed Carter about the economy. Reagan didn’t play nice, and pull his punches in the debates. Reagan’s land slide was only partly because of the economy and Iran. Reagan’s attitude and his ability to build each individual American up made the electorate believe in America again. He made people feel like “we are all in this together.” Much like Obama did in ’08.

Romney is a good man. I think the last few weeks of the campaign really showed this. He had Reagan moments. But he pulled his punches, tried to play both sides, and didn’t inspire anyone. He let the Obama people frame him as someone he wasn’t. They tried to label Reagan as the “Old Fool”, but he fought hard and his ability to debate well destroyed that meme.

Conservatism sells well if advertised well. Romney was to busy pushing the line item Conservatism that shows well on a ledger but forgot about the great feeling that Conservatism can bring to a person who has earned what they have, and not begged for it.

portlandon on November 16, 2012 at 11:03 PM

We have 30 or more governorships, maybe we need to start working at the state level to reapportion EVs according to percentage of votes.

I wonder what the count would have been if this year’s EVs were doled out by percentages rather than winner take all.

Jvette on November 16, 2012 at 10:54 PM

I have wondered about the same thing. I had thought that after the census some of the states would lose some EVs. Maybe they did, but not enough. Should Ohio or Florida decide the fate of the whole country? I wonder.

As you said Republicans do hold 30 Governorships. They also have control of most state legislatures…and the House. It is interesting, they control more state level or local governments and the Democrats control the federal level.

Terrye on November 16, 2012 at 11:03 PM

True. And I thought the internet was supposed to make us smarter. Not so apparently.

Terrye on November 16, 2012 at 10:58 PM

Government invented..you know…

Just don’t depend on email..

When Americans live are on the line…

Electrongod on November 16, 2012 at 11:04 PM

America has gotten far too stupid.

Lanceman on November 16, 2012 at 10:57 PM

It’s a democrat design consideration. I.e., Evanston Township H.S. wiped out it’s advanced placement program last year, for fear it would stigmatize the non-qualified.

wolfsDad on November 16, 2012 at 11:04 PM

but forgot about the great feeling that Conservatism can bring to a person who has earned what they have, and not begged for it.

portlandon on November 16, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Problem here is, most of them begged for it and by your statement are not reachable.

Who is John Galt on November 16, 2012 at 11:05 PM

We had a long lockdown at work today with a report of “shots fired”.

Turned out to be a false alarm but it was surreal.

gophergirl on November 16, 2012 at 10:50 PM

This is incompatible with a light-hearted, Gopher-girl’s life. Move to Louisiana and I shall forbid anyone that wearest the Purple and Gold to hunt you, and you shall be safe and happy. You may even mispronounce words if you’d like.

Axe on November 16, 2012 at 11:05 PM

When Reagan was running for the White House, 30% of the people in this country were dependent on government and 18 could not vote.

I meant to say 18 year olds could not vote. Excuse me.

Terrye on November 16, 2012 at 10:57 PM

The 26th amendment lowered the age to 18, it was adopted in July 1971.

RickB on November 16, 2012 at 11:05 PM

I was listening to old man Huntsman today on Fox. He blamed Fox

JPeterman on November 16, 2012 at 11:03 PM

This the same clown whose son joined the obama regime?

I think I need to hear from Judd Gregg’s father-in-law and Ray LaHood’s wife before I form an opinion.

Lanceman on November 16, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Sigh. How do you account for the legions of minority parents trying to get their children into better schools? The D.C. Opportunity Scholarship program wasn’t shut down for a lack of interest, any more than charter schools in the inner cities are lacking for applicants. The teacher’s unions don’t oppose school choice simply as a reflex, it presents as existential threat.

Get a grip, already.

wolfsDad on November 16, 2012 at 10:51 PM

You are delusional… What minority parents are you talking about? The parents of 70% of blacks born out of wedlock? The black community is destroyed… I hope you do not believe the totally unrealistic portrayal of blacks in Hollywood movies, TV commercials, and TV sitcoms…

mnjg on November 16, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Conservatism sells well if advertised well. Romney was to busy pushing the line item Conservatism that shows well on a ledger but forgot about the great feeling that Conservatism can bring to a person who has earned what they have, and not begged for it.

portlandon on November 16, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Reagan was born in the early 20th century. The young people who voted for Obama would never have even considered voting for Reagan. The whole populist wave would have taken him down…not because he is bad man or because there is anything wrong with conservatism but because this is not 1980 anymore. I am 61 years old. I remember when Reagan ran.

People did not get unemployment for years back then, they needed a job. 47 million people did not get food stamps. No one was promising people free health care either. 25% of Democrats crossed over and voted for Reagan. 25% of Democrats today would not cross over and vote for a Republican if Lincoln were running.

No,I am sorry. I think Romney was a good candidate. The best one of the choices we had. He was not the problem..the problem is the culture. This is not the same country it was back then.

Terrye on November 16, 2012 at 11:08 PM

Enough already. Obama got 50.6% of the vote…not 70%. Some soul searching is okay, but this is getting ridiculous.

Terrye on November 16, 2012 at 10:39 PM

THIS cannot be said enough.

CW on November 16, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Conservatism sells well if advertised well. Romney was to busy pushing the line item Conservatism that shows well on a ledger but forgot about the great feeling that Conservatism can bring to a person who has earned what they have, and not begged for it.

portlandon on November 16, 2012 at 11:03 PM

I hear ya..

But Obama gave them a phone..you know..

He actually didn’t but the dems did..via President Bush…

The Dems prepare in advance….

This didn’t happen in the 80′s….not like this..

Electrongod on November 16, 2012 at 11:09 PM

I was listening to old man Huntsman today on Fox. He blamed Fox, Karl Rove, Dick Morris and a few others on Romney’s loss.

JPeterman on November 16, 2012 at 11:03 PM

May I add Chris Christy the dork.

derft on November 16, 2012 at 11:09 PM

I have more respect for Romney now than ever… He spoke the truth about the nature of the electorate… We simply have to destroy the Parasite class that constitutes the majority of the democrat base…

mnjg on November 16, 2012 at 10:49 PM

That’s all nice and not to kick you when you are down—cause I am too, but I seem to remember mnjg vociferously telling us to back off and not be worry warts in July/Aug when we expressed concern about Mr. Romney not sticking it to massa Obama.

arnold ziffel on November 16, 2012 at 11:10 PM

No he wouldn’t have. He would have won. I believe that more than ever.

Reagan used to campaign HARD. His campaign staff was EXCELLENT. Reagan hung Iran around the neck of Carter. Reagan destroyed Carter about the economy. Reagan didn’t play nice, and pull his punches in the debates. Reagan’s land slide was only partly because of the economy and Iran. Reagan’s attitude and his ability to build each individual American up made the electorate believe in America again. He made people feel like “we are all in this together.” Much like Obama did in ’08.

Romney is a good man. I think the last few weeks of the campaign really showed this. He had Reagan moments. But he pulled his punches, tried to play both sides, and didn’t inspire anyone. He let the Obama people frame him as someone he wasn’t. They tried to label Reagan as the “Old Fool”, but he fought hard and his ability to debate well destroyed that meme.

Conservatism sells well if advertised well. Romney was to busy pushing the line item Conservatism that shows well on a ledger but forgot about the great feeling that Conservatism can bring to a person who has earned what they have, and not begged for it.

portlandon on November 16, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Good Comment.

SparkPlug on November 16, 2012 at 11:10 PM

You are dreaming. When Reagan was running for the White House, 30% of the people in this country were dependent on government and 18 could not vote. Today kids can vote and 49% of the people get some sort of support. It is a different world. Reagan would not have had a chance in this world. I really believe that. Neither would Lincoln. Now, FDR might. Sad but true. I do not think JFK would have won either.

Terrye on November 16, 2012 at 10:56 PM

The voting age was lowered to 18 in 1971. So 18 year old Could vote for Reagan.

I blame us for the 49% of the country getting assistance. We have allowed welfare to lose it’s stigma it once had. Reagan would openly mock those who chose Welfare over work. “Welfare queens” he called them.

Reagan was the best at articulating the joy a person should feel when they work hard and earn their pay. And he was the best at destroying the myth that Government was the answer to all problems.

The asian and hispanic Americans are some of the hardest working people I have ever worked with. Reagan used to speak directly to them. He painted a beautiful picture for them about working hard and getting the American Dream. A life that the through Conservatism could not be taken away or destroyed by the ever growing reach of the Federal or State Governments.

Where did Romney ever speak of this? He never spoke of the American Dream. He is a numbers guy. It didn’t sell.

portlandon on November 16, 2012 at 11:10 PM

This the same clown whose son joined the obama regime?

I think I need to hear from Judd Gregg’s father-in-law and Ray LaHood’s wife before I form an opinion.

Lanceman on November 16, 2012 at 11:07 PM

One and the same, and he’s bitter, but I still think some of what he said has validity. Look at how so many of us were sucked into the bubble by Ed and Allah’s deconstruction of the polls.

#NumbersMuncher hardest hit.

JPeterman on November 16, 2012 at 11:10 PM

Stop blaming Romney. Start blaming Americans. Stupid won.

The Resolute Desk on November 16, 2012 at 11:11 PM

ot from drudge Obama consults Sharpton on fiscal negotiations

Who is John Galt on November 16, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Why would you have a problem with consulting a genuine Renaissance man like Al? Racist huh? /

arnold ziffel on November 16, 2012 at 11:12 PM

This is incompatible with a light-hearted, Gopher-girl’s life. Move to Louisiana and I shall forbid anyone that wearest the Purple and Gold to hunt you, and you shall be safe and happy. You may even mispronounce words if you’d like.

Axe on November 16, 2012 at 11:05 PM

You are too sweet :)

gophergirl on November 16, 2012 at 11:12 PM

Why would you have a problem with consulting a genuine Renaissance man like Al? Racist huh? /

arnold ziffel on November 16, 2012 at 11:12 PM

Lol, no, but a sign of things to come…

Who is John Galt on November 16, 2012 at 11:13 PM

You are delusional… What minority parents are you talking about? The parents of 70% of blacks born out of wedlock? The black community is destroyed… I hope you do not believe the totally unrealistic portrayal of blacks in Hollywood movies, TV commercials, and TV sitcoms…

mnjg on November 16, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Hmmm. You could learn to google.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303745304576361630636338492.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/2005/06/01/hispanic-parents-rally-school-choice-texas

CW on November 16, 2012 at 11:13 PM

Heh. Loved watching Newt have a little fun at Romney’s expense.

Romney was a bad candidate folks.

We needed a Reagan to run against the New Jimmy Carter. Instead we sent in Gerald Ford and Lost.

As for Romney whining about the 47%, he is the one who was speaking of the cuff and hobbled his own campaign. Of all the gaffes of the campaign season, the “47%” remark hurt him the worst.

portlandon on November 16, 2012 at 10:48 PM

WHo cares what Newt thinks any more? The man couldn’t make it through the primaries. He’s a talking head and a fat one at that. And I agree with the others here, Reagan couldn’t have won either. No one who espoused even a small amount of Conservative ideals could have won. People are now pawns of the state and they like it. Romney was right.

Deanna on November 16, 2012 at 11:13 PM

portlandon on November 16, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Very well said, indeed. Reagan went for the jugular, almost always and going back to his days as CA governor, but he did so in a straightforward manner and without vitriol, usually showing some sorrow that he would even have to do so. But he never shied away from gutting his opponents, and with a friendly smile. In the meantime, his political operatives knew how to go negative and did it with abandon.

He would’ve crushed Obama like a thin tin can.

TXUS on November 16, 2012 at 11:14 PM

mnjg on November 16, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Actually, rather a high percentage of the people who forced the President to alter his shutdown of the D.C. program, and grandfather in then current participants were single mothers of limited means. If you know a bunch of mothers who don’t want their children to do well, you’re traveling in rather unique circles.

wolfsDad on November 16, 2012 at 11:14 PM

We knew people were stupid going into this election. That’s part of the territory. The candidate and campaign have to take this into consideration.

When you lose a football game you don’t blame the playing field.

SparkPlug on November 16, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Stop blaming Romney. Start blaming Americans. Stupid won.

The Resolute Desk on November 16, 2012 at 11:11 PM

And no one could cure this..

I like Romney..
Not the Conservative…

But Conservatism wasn’t on the table..

Free sh!t was……short term prosperity…

I think in the next two year….

The short term bet…

Will loose..

I will suffer..

But I am prepared..

Electrongod on November 16, 2012 at 11:16 PM

The answer is NO to the hell. Currently Boehner, McConnell and the rest of our betters are fixin to give us a memorable Christmas and New Year. I feel all nice and warm–you?

PS, do you like farm living?

arnold ziffel on November 16, 2012 at 10:32 PM

If you call ankle grabbing memorable. Doesn’t do much for my temperature.

As for farm living – no idea – never been on one. ;)

kim roy on November 16, 2012 at 11:17 PM

portlandon on November 16, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Very well said, indeed. Reagan went for the jugular, almost always and going back to his days as CA governor, but he did so in a straightforward manner and without vitriol, usually showing some sorrow that he would even have to do so. But he never shied away from gutting his opponents, and with a friendly smile. In the meantime, his political operatives knew how to go negative and did it with abandon.

He would’ve crushed Obama like a thin tin can.

TXUS on November 16, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Yes sir. You are right. Well said, Reagan would have humiliated Barky.

SparkPlug on November 16, 2012 at 11:18 PM

B9

SparkPlug on November 16, 2012 at 11:19 PM

Stop blaming Romney. Start blaming Americans. Stupid won.

The Resolute Desk on November 16, 2012 at 11:11 PM

Early voting doomed Romney along with the fact that millions refused to vote because of the RINO label he was given early on.

It’s a brutal loss and will be a brutal lesson learned after four more years of this travesty in office.

Jvette on November 16, 2012 at 11:19 PM

I hear ya..

But Obama gave them a phone..you know..

He actually didn’t but the dems did..via President Bush…

The Dems prepare in advance….

This didn’t happen in the 80′s….not like this..

Electrongod on November 16, 2012 at 11:09 PM

It’s true. Obama gave a lot of people free stuff. And Bush did more damage to the GOP with his “compassionate conservatism” than most will ever know.

If America is at the point where the begging class can take over the nation, it is lost. But I don’t think its lost yet.

2010, just 2 short years ago we saw the biggest push for fiscal sanity in 50 years. If organized and informed, we can again push through the idiots and bring sanity back to the government. However, the 2012 election cycle was one of the most divisive I can remember. The primary left a lot of bad blood amongst many factions within the GOP. Instead of bringing us all together by picking one of the primary candidates as his VP, Romney chose Paul Ryan.

I like Ryan. He is a good Representative. But, he wasn’t strong enough of a candidate to even deliver his own state, his political region of the upper midwest, or help with the Catholic vote.

I just refuse to think the America that existed in 2010, has changed so drastically to what just happened Nov 6th 2012.

Obama lost 9.5 million voters from his 2008 numbers. Romney’s ORCA hurt him, and of course voter fraud probably helped.

portlandon on November 16, 2012 at 11:21 PM

OK..

I lost the Reagan argument..

I concede…

Electrongod on November 16, 2012 at 11:21 PM

Hmmm. You could learn to google.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303745304576361630636338492.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/2005/06/01/hispanic-parents-rally-school-choice-texas

CW on November 16, 2012 at 11:13 PM

Few minorities make a rally for school choice and you are making it like the vast majority of them are interested in good education for their children, mostly out of wedlock children… I can see Hispanics have more interest than blacks on this issue… but with blacks it is a lost cause… totally lost cause…

mnjg on November 16, 2012 at 11:21 PM

The voting age was lowered to 18 in 1971. So 18 year old Could vote for Reagan.

I blame us for the 49% of the country getting assistance. We have allowed welfare to lose it’s stigma it once had. Reagan would openly mock those who chose Welfare over work. “Welfare queens” he called them.

Reagan was the best at articulating the joy a person should feel when they work hard and earn their pay. And he was the best at destroying the myth that Government was the answer to all problems.

The asian and hispanic Americans are some of the hardest working people I have ever worked with. Reagan used to speak directly to them. He painted a beautiful picture for them about working hard and getting the American Dream. A life that the through Conservatism could not be taken away or destroyed by the ever growing reach of the Federal or State Governments.

Where did Romney ever speak of this? He never spoke of the American Dream. He is a numbers guy. It didn’t sell.

portlandon on November 16, 2012 at 11:10 PM

I should have been more explicit…18 years old was different then than it is today. After all, today you can stay on your parents insurance until you are 25 years old. Kids back then left home. It was a different time.

I heard Romney talk about the American Dream. I did not hear him just talk about money. I heard him talk about opportunity. I heard all of that from Romney. But in 1980 people still believed in that,so they listened to Reagan. Today people think the American dream is a security.

And yes, Asians and hispanics are hard working. But then Reagan was a very pro immigration kind of person. I think that probably came from his generation. Today, conservatives do not want to hear a lot of that. That is a change in the party.

I am sorry, I just do not think that the whole shining city on the hill speech would have worked in this country today after that meltdown and with the changing demographics. I just do not see it.

Terrye on November 16, 2012 at 11:21 PM

Actually, rather a high percentage of the people who forced the President to alter his shutdown of the D.C. program, and grandfather in then current participants were single mothers of limited means. If you know a bunch of mothers who don’t want their children to do well, you’re traveling in rather unique circles.

wolfsDad on November 16, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Can you tell me what is the percentage of these blacks mothers in the overall number of black mothers? 10%? 20%?

mnjg on November 16, 2012 at 11:24 PM

I’m having a hard time getting worked up over this “gift” business. Jindal, Rubio, Pawlenty, Gingrich… all know this is true. They’re just positioning themselves. Newt, Hell, I’ve heard a lot worse from him. I’m not even a Mitt fan. I think he was the wrong tool for the job, but the way these guys are smothering his comment with blankets of political correctness is sickening. I’d really be curious to hear Palin’s take on it. I wonder if she’d take the popular side on this or just say BFD.

Dongemaharu on November 16, 2012 at 11:25 PM

He would’ve crushed Obama like a thin tin can.

TXUS on November 16, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Yes sir. You are right. Well said, Reagan would have humiliated Barky.

SparkPlug on November 16, 2012 at 11:18 PM

No, he would not have. Barack Obama has been caught in a bold faced lie over this Benghazi stuff..and no one cares. The media does not care. People do not care as long as their get their free stuff. When Reagan was running for office, it actually mattered if a man told the truth or not.

I am sorry, I do not mean this as disrepectful to Reagan, but he would not have beaten Obama.

Terrye on November 16, 2012 at 11:26 PM

We’re not talking about President elect Mitt Romney because Obama lied, cheated and stole this election, and the press corruptly crucified him.

Speakup on November 16, 2012 at 11:26 PM

It is like some strange game we play where no one is supposed to mention an obvious fact.

This is exactly right, and it drives me nuts. All the analysts were saying that this was exactly Obama’s game plan, not to triangulate, forget about white males, go after blacks, Hispanics, feminist women, gays…like the eight nights of Hanukah, a new gift every day.

Then Romney says what happened in a post-mortem, and it’s the headline on all the MSM sites, and to add insult to injury, all the craven GOPers get on his ass too.

Romney had his drawbacks, big ones, but as a national candidate, he was head and shoulders above the rest who got into the primaries — which is why the base nominated him, even thought they had little affection for him. All in all, he better served the party than the party served him.

bobs1196 on November 16, 2012 at 11:26 PM

Obama lost 9.5 million voters from his 2008 numbers. Romney’s ORCA hurt him, and of course voter fraud probably helped.

portlandon on November 16, 2012 at 11:21 PM

I listen to Reagan’s speeches back then…

And then I look at the media today.

I mean…

We had 4 Americans die…
And this administration blamed someone who had nothing to do with it…
He is in jail now..

I was 18 back in the Reagan era..

The sh!t I have seen today…

Didn’t happen back then…

Electrongod on November 16, 2012 at 11:27 PM

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