Martinez: Republicans need to be going after every single vote

posted at 2:41 pm on November 16, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

With all the musings about how Mitt Romney’s defeat did-or-did-not set up the GOP for 2012, as well as the demographic problems the GOP may now be up against, I’ve had both possible ticket combinations of Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez’s names running vague circles around the back of my mind — and both have now piped up about the Republican party’s future in the wake of the 2012 bloodbath. Gov. Jindal spoke up first, and Gov. Martinez echoed a few of his sentiments and added some thoughts about the immigration issue at the close of the Republican Governor Association’s meeting in Las Vegas yesterday. Via Politico:

“We have to start electing people who look like their communities all the way from city council to county commissioners to county clerks all the way through the state and up into national politics,” …

“We need to embrace them not just at election time,” she added. “We visit them, and they don’t appreciate that. And I don’t blame them for not appreciating that. We should not visit them when we need their vote and then walk away. And then four years go by and we go visit them again. We have to make them part of the solution, and the way you do that is by listening to them.”

She expressed disdain for Romney’s claim this week on a conference call that Obama won reelection because he offered “gifts” to minorities and younger voters.

“That unfortunately is what sets us back as a party—our comments that are not thought through carefully,” she said. …

“I offered early on—I think I was governor about a month when I met President Obama—and said, ‘I would like to visit with you in reference to border security, in reference to immigration. I’d like to be part of the discussion because I lived on the border all my life,’” she recounted just outside the casino at a resort owned by Steve Wynn. “I’ve never received a call.”

And on her own bid for the governorship, she recounted how she didn’t write off even areas that are consistently Democratic strongholds in her state:

“I wanted to earn that crossover vote,” she said. “And a lot of statewide Republican candidates in New Mexico don’t go there. They just check it off and say, ‘I’m going to have to win heavy in the more Republican areas and I’ll just never be able to earn that vote.’ I did. I lost four out of 33 counties.”

Martinez has consistently pulled in great approval ratings, and she’s running one of the several states that has a Republican governorship but just went blue for President Obama. Her brand of governing and ideas for outreach would probably be wise for the GOP to take into consideration — which also probably explains why President Obama was never interested in reaching out to her. As I lamented after President Obama presented his modified-Dream-ACT-through-executive-fiat plan early last summer (after conspicuously failing to do a thing about immigration in the first two unencumbered years of his presidency), Sen. Marco Rubio had been circulating a plan with many of the same goals; and as much as the president just loves to claim that he can reach across the aisle and bring the parties together, he never bothered to get Rubio involved in the process nor tried to mount an offensive that could potentially be worked through Congress with Rubio’s help. Obama just couldn’t afford to have it look like any big-name Republicans are ready and willing to work together on an attractive immigration solution — and I guess that strategy worked out pretty well for him (although the Romney campaign certainly helped him along with that).

Anyhow, Gov. Martinez also added that:

Mentioned on many lists as a potential running mate for Romney, she insisted here she will not run for president in 2016.

“No,” she said. “I’m focused on fixing the things we can in New Mexico.”

Yes, I’m sure she’s focused on New Mexico now, and she seems to be in great shape for reelection in 2014, but… we’ve all got four more exciting years of President Obama during which to mull things over.


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… but not at the expense of compromising our principles.

Otherwise we might just as well all become Democrats.

Lawrence on November 16, 2012 at 2:43 PM

Republicans can get many more votes by appealing to their core values and principles but they should not resort to blatant bribery as the left has done.

rplat on November 16, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Gov. Martinez should not talk to the reporters, they will only want to make her look bad and press her until they get the sound bite that they want out of her, preferably one that says “Republicans are bad.”

Fleuries on November 16, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Jindal and Martinez haven’t said that Romney was wrong on the facts – just that we need to approach everyone with a clear and well articulated conservative message. I agree.

gwelf on November 16, 2012 at 2:47 PM

I like her and would support her in 2016.

mrscullen on November 16, 2012 at 2:48 PM

… but not at the expense of compromising our principles.

Otherwise we might just as well all become Democrats.

Lawrence on November 16, 2012 at 2:43 PM

If you can name one deep-rooted principle she suggests jettisoning, let’s hear it. I certainly don’t see one.

I swear to God, I’m getting sick of this knee-jerk sh*t whenever a Republican suggests that we go after more people than the 48% who voted for Romney.

KingGold on November 16, 2012 at 2:48 PM

facepalm… good grief.. if this is what we have to look forward to in 2016, it is very depressing.

Show me the last time the Democrats made even half an attempt at going after “every single vote”

Continuing flailing by our GOP governors..

The DEMs have a no-friendly-fire pact.. and they keep to it.. seems our side could learn a lot from that given the fawning by the press every time they succeed in sparking an intra-party spat which is a multiple-times-a-day occurrence now.

gatorboy on November 16, 2012 at 2:50 PM

pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander

How do you fix anything when you get elected by dividing the population into groups and pander to them? Your focus when in office is continued pandering for re-election. We have to make them see what the problems are, and convince them that the problems need to be solved. Romney failed at that. Not totally his fault. Not enough Americans are suffering this economic crisis. Once enough Americans feel the pain, they will be more easily convinced that something must be done.

tdarrington on November 16, 2012 at 2:51 PM

esse quam videri…

equanimous on November 16, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Look, while its all well and good to be idealistic and pretend you are winning 100% of the vote, we all know its a waste of time.

Mitt Romney had about 10 weeks to campaign (cut short by Sandy and the DNC). He needed to shore up realistic votes, not go into parts of Cleveland, Philadelphia, Miami, etc.. that were never voting for him. The potential to gain 1% extra there might have cost him the chance to gain 10% elsewhere.

That is true of every candidate, Democrat or Republican, in every district.

The focus should be young people. Republicans need to stop ignoring colleges and places like MTV and Comedy Central, and make a concerted effort to reach out to young people.

This serves 2 goals:

1. You try to win the under 30 vote.
2. You lock up those people early, and have them reliably vote for you for 50 years.

Romney needed to go on Leno, Letterman, Kimmel, Conan, Daily Show, etc.. He needed to go to college campuses and tell college kids why he is better for them (i.e., reduction in interest rates on loans is useless if you cant get a job, and that you dont need to stay on your parents insurance until 26 if you get a job, which will either have insurance or give you the means to buy insurance). And it was inexcusable that he did not do that.

In 2016, Rubio must reach out to young people. And then he will win young people, including young blacks and hispanics who should also be on a path to getting out of the 47% with a college education.

milcus on November 16, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Maybe, just maybe GW had it right with Compassionate Conservatism.

rplat on November 16, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Maybe, just maybe GW had it right with Compassionate Conservatism.

rplat on November 16, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Well, he did get elected president twice. Maybe he’s not such a moron after all.

KingGold on November 16, 2012 at 2:58 PM

How about this noval concept to these republican know it alls. Prove to us by your actions how conservative you are, etc.. Then we’ll decide if you deserve our votes.

If you become democrat lite on immigration, taxes etc.. Then we form a third party.

Morons, you do realize that Blacks, asians, hispanics, single woman pay taxes, want sensible legal immigration, law & order etc. It’s a freaking battle of ideas, Are you telling us you can’t make the case.

God, republicans are gutless. If reagan was alive, he’d let these wimps have it!

Danielvito on November 16, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Republicans need to be going after every single vote

Yes, they should definitely be including the huge numbers of white, blacks and browns who believe in border enforcement, tested over time, before any talk of amnesty. And the republicans should definitely not be favouring one minority or skin tone over another. America’s Mexican(not illegal) immigrants should be treated the same as all American citizens.

AND
Businesses that knowingly employ any illegal residents(regardless of skin tone) should be prosecuted for it.

I’ve seen where this going since BushII and Mcain pushed amnesty. It is the ,now, not so secret agenda of both parties. This won’t end well.

“We have to start electing people who look like their communities

Not if they are pro amnesty shills.

BoxHead1 on November 16, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Nosotros no podemos vender nosotros mismos para intentar ganar el voto hispano.

portlandon on November 16, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Well, he did get elected president twice. Maybe he’s not such a moron after all.

KingGold on November 16, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Precisely, he understood our culture(s) and accommodated them rather than defend a few and trash the rest.

rplat on November 16, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Republicans need to be going after every single vote

When you “go after votes” you tell people what they want to hear, and make promises that either compromise your values or are not intended to be kept.

We need a real leader to come forward who can get the idea of Liberty and personal responsibility across to voters. Make them vote because they believe the ideas will drive the country to prosperity, not because they like the free stuff he is offering.

tdarrington on November 16, 2012 at 3:06 PM

The only thing the GOP is going to accomplish is alienation of their base in pursuit of an ethnic vote they will never capture. There is nothing but doom in the GOP’s future.

DFCtomm on November 16, 2012 at 3:06 PM

Show me the last time the Democrats made even half an attempt at going after “every single vote”

gatorboy on November 16, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Democrats have been going after suburban white voters for a long time, and are winning substantial numbers of them. They are winning Pennsylvania because they have flipped the Philly suburbs that used to vote reliably Republican. They have won Ohio twice in a row because they won Hamilton County. They have won Virginia twice in a row because they have won Fairfax and Prince William Counties. It was much closer this time but they still won. We won’t win another Presidential election unless and until we win back these suburbs.

Suburban voters are especially attuned to tone and think of themselves as broad-minded and inclusive. They won’t vote for people who come across as insensitive, intolerant, or writing off blocs of voters. We have to get them back, and we don’t have to abandoned core principles to get them, but we do have to appear more sensitive and inclusive.

rockmom on November 16, 2012 at 3:06 PM

Maybe, just maybe GW had it right with Compassionate Conservatism.

rplat on November 16, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Well, he did get elected president twice. Maybe he’s not such a moron after all.

KingGold on November 16, 2012 at 2:58 PM

GW was a progressive. That’s what “compassionate conservative” means.

tdarrington on November 16, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Hey, there’s no snarky comment under the picture for this headline. Who screwed up?

InterestedObserver on November 16, 2012 at 3:09 PM

The focus should be young people. Republicans need to stop ignoring colleges and places like MTV and Comedy Central, and make a concerted effort to reach out to young people.

milcus on November 16, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Half right. You can never reach out to MTV or Comedy Central. They will only make you look like fools. It’s enemy territory. What you can do is reach Greg Gutfeld a semi-truck full of money to make something the youth will want to see.

DFCtomm on November 16, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Romney needed to go on Leno, Letterman, Kimmel, Conan, Daily Show, etc.. He needed to go to college campuses and tell college kids why he is better for them (i.e., reduction in interest rates on loans is useless if you cant get a job, and that you dont need to stay on your parents insurance until 26 if you get a job, which will either have insurance or give you the means to buy insurance). And it was inexcusable that he did not do that.

In 2016, Rubio must reach out to young people. And then he will win young people, including young blacks and hispanics who should also be on a path to getting out of the 47% with a college education.

milcus on November 16, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Why couldn’t they at least have had Paul Ryan going on those shows, showing off his physique, chatting about rock music and bowhunting and P90X? Why wasn’t he sent to college campuses? This was a terrible campaign that totally wrote off the youth vote.

rockmom on November 16, 2012 at 3:10 PM

I like her, and I like Jindal, but I DON’T like how they’re buying into The Narrative that Republicans aren’t trying to reach everyone. Do they think we should pander to blacks, to gays, to whichever group the Dems have bought off? We should write off entire swaths of the electorate, but I don’t think that’s what we’ve done, either…why did Romney give a talk to the NAACP? Was that because he didn’t want their vote?

changer1701 on November 16, 2012 at 3:10 PM

The DEMs have a no-friendly-fire pact.. and they keep to it.. seems our side could learn a lot from that given the fawning by the press every time they succeed in sparking an intra-party spat which is a multiple-times-a-day occurrence now.

gatorboy on November 16, 2012 at 2:50 PM

LOL– I agree, GOPers favorite firing position is circular..

melle1228 on November 16, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Nosotros no podemos vender nosotros mismos para intentar ganar el voto hispano.

portlandon on November 16, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Es mejor de perder todas las elecciones porque perdemos el voto hispano.

KingGold on November 16, 2012 at 3:11 PM

The only thing the GOP is going to accomplish is alienation of their base in pursuit of an ethnic vote they will never capture. There is nothing but doom in the GOP’s future.

DFCtomm on November 16, 2012 at 3:06 PM

That of course is the hope of the left, but I think a great lesson has been learned as a result of this election, and this learning experience will pay great dividends for the Republican Party in future elections.

rplat on November 16, 2012 at 3:11 PM

And we need to start in those little local elections for school board, planning commission and town / county council that many people ignore. We need a Republican turnout for those elections just like we see for national elections. The Democrats wouldn’t know what hit them of they suddenly got kicked out of local offices.

crosspatch on November 16, 2012 at 3:11 PM

The Democrats will beat Democrat-Lite every time.

Akzed on November 16, 2012 at 3:12 PM

facepalm… good grief.. if this is what we have to look forward to in 2016, it is very depressing.

Show me the last time the Democrats made even half an attempt at going after “every single vote”

Continuing flailing by our GOP governors..

The DEMs have a no-friendly-fire pact.. and they keep to it.. seems our side could learn a lot from that given the fawning by the press every time they succeed in sparking an intra-party spat which is a multiple-times-a-day occurrence now.

gatorboy on November 16, 2012 at 2:50 PM

No kidding. While there’s a lot to improve, it seems that they are tripping over themselves to go to the very media that will eventually knife them in the back in order to feast on carrion for some TV face time.

Lost a LOT of respect for Jindal for blabbering away to Politico.

Politico, FFS. A bunch of cheap wh*res all of them.

kim roy on November 16, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Half right. You can never reach out to MTV or Comedy Central.

What’s interesting is 3 longtime MTV personalities are hardcore Libertarians. Kennedy, Kurt Loder, and Adam Carolla.

tdarrington on November 16, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Dear Republican Party! You don’t need to compete with Democrats in the size of goodie bags. Here is a recipe for your future success: cut the troglocon drag off the party platform. Individual candidates are entitled to have their opinion on social issues; the party should not. Let the so-called “social conservatives”, who are just liberals who happen to be pro-life and pro-marriage vote for their big-government Democrat brethren. In fact, they do it anyway – just check how the Catholics vote. Instead, pull in the population who would be otherwise fully in Democrat camp. Grab the millenials – they are being screwed raw by both the Democrats and the banks, and are quite capable of figuring that out. Grab the college-educated white professionals – they are natural Republican constituents disgusted by the likes of Huckabee and Akin. Grab Ron Paul’s libertarians, a.k.a. “stoners” – a significant, active, and very vocal sector repulsed by your anti-freedom social message. All together, they are more than adequate replacement for the Bible-thumping statists that you call themselves “social conservatives” – and you still get to keep some of those, too.

Scott Walker / Rand Paul ’2016

Archivarix on November 16, 2012 at 3:17 PM

i was starting to like martinez… but now, not so much.

She expressed disdain for Romney’s claim this week on a conference call that Obama won reelection because he offered “gifts” to minorities and younger voters.

“That unfortunately is what sets us back as a party—our comments that are not thought through carefully,” she said. …

exactly what was wrong with what romney said here? he was absolutely right. obama panders to specific groups while republicans care about all americans, not just specific groups they can pander to. so why are some republicans like jindal and martinez talking about how republicans supposedly don’t go after everyone’s vote? wtf.

Sachiko on November 16, 2012 at 3:17 PM

That of course is the hope of the left, but I think a great lesson has been learned as a result of this election, and this learning experience will pay great dividends for the Republican Party in future elections.

rplat on November 16, 2012 at 3:11 PM

No lesson has been learned. The GOP has just woken up to a demographic problem they helped create, and now they are in panic mode. This is no light bulb moment. This is a clawing at the coffin lid until you rip out your fingernails moment.

DFCtomm on November 16, 2012 at 3:17 PM

No kidding, Boehner is about to crawl into Obama’s azz, crying.

It’s not a joke.

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2012 at 3:18 PM

Justin Amash 2016

When asked by a New York Times reporter to describe his voting methodology, Justin explained: “I follow a set of principles, I follow the Constitution. And that’s what I base my votes on. Limited government, economic freedom, and individual liberty.”

dom89031 on November 16, 2012 at 3:18 PM

Maybe, just maybe GW had it right with Compassionate Conservatism.

rplat on November 16, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Well, he did get elected president twice. Maybe he’s not such a moron after all.

KingGold on November 16, 2012 at 2:58 PM

We can’t afford the trillions that Bush shelled out for his ‘compassion’.

Where’s the money going to come from?

sharrukin on November 16, 2012 at 3:18 PM

http://amash.house.gov/

dom89031 on November 16, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Gov. Martinez should not talk to the reporters, they will only want to make her look bad and press her until they get the sound bite that they want out of her, preferably one that says “Republicans are bad.”

Fleuries on November 16, 2012 at 2:47 PM </blockquote

The media works to destroy all Republicans but really goes all out against minorities and women who are conservatives.

bw222 on November 16, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Justin Amash 2016

When asked by a New York Times reporter to describe his voting methodology, Justin explained: “I follow a set of principles, I follow the Constitution. And that’s what I base my votes on. Limited government, economic freedom, and individual liberty.”

dom89031 on November 16, 2012 at 3:18 PM

That’s not a bad philosophy when you represent a mostly-rural congressional district with an R+6 PVI.

Unfortunately, in the country at large you have to make the sale just a touch better than that.

KingGold on November 16, 2012 at 3:20 PM

We can’t afford the trillions that Bush shelled out for his ‘compassion’.

Where’s the money going to come from?

sharrukin on November 16, 2012 at 3:18 PM

Why are you such a downer? They are trying to save the GOP, not the country, but the GOP and you’re bringing them down with petty things like math.

DFCtomm on November 16, 2012 at 3:21 PM

And we need to start in those little local elections for school board, planning commission and town / county council that many people ignore. We need a Republican turnout for those elections just like we see for national elections. The Democrats wouldn’t know what hit them of they suddenly got kicked out of local offices.

crosspatch on November 16, 2012 at 3:11 PM

very true. don’t forget local elections!

Why couldn’t they at least have had Paul Ryan going on those shows, showing off his physique, chatting about rock music and bowhunting and P90X? Why wasn’t he sent to college campuses? This was a terrible campaign that totally wrote off the youth vote.

rockmom on November 16, 2012 at 3:10 PM

i agree, i’m in college and it would have been great if paul ryan came to our campus. i think he’s really likeable and a lot of students would have been interested in seeing him.

Sachiko on November 16, 2012 at 3:22 PM

Maybe, just maybe GW had it right with Compassionate Conservatism.

rplat on November 16, 2012 at 2:57 PM
Well, he did get elected president twice. Maybe he’s not such a moron after all.

KingGold on November 16, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Open borders, Justice Roberts, No Child Left Behind, massive increases in entitlements, huge deficit increases, six years in which the GOP controlled BOTH houses of congress and nothing to show for it – yes, Bush43 was a real genius.

bw222 on November 16, 2012 at 3:23 PM

Suuuuurrrre.

Amnesty means never having to say your sorry.

Listen up would be Peanuts Place kickers….. 6 million new hispanic voters is berry berry bad news any way you slice it.

Reps got all the Hispanic votes they are ever going to get. If you think population trends favor a more conservative voter… you are gringo loco ! If you think a worsening economy and standard of living woos them- you’re still loco.

Just try and hold on Texas for a little while longer, por favor.

FlaMurph on November 16, 2012 at 3:23 PM

The Latino Gov. of New Mexico isn’t pushing an amnesty plan? I guess she doesn’t know how to appeal to Latinos, right Ed?

As for this:

When you “go after votes” you tell people what they want to hear, and make promises that either compromise your values or are not intended to be kept.

We need a real leader to come forward who can get the idea of Liberty and personal responsibility across to voters. Make them vote because they believe the ideas will drive the country to prosperity, not because they like the free stuff he is offering.

tdarrington on November 16, 2012 at 3:06 PM

You can do both. We need to stop writing off large chunks of the electorate. We need to spend the time and money to educate people who vote Democrat. And you need to be careful about what you say, so that your message of liberty and personal responsibility gets through.

hawksruleva on November 16, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Why couldn’t they at least have had Paul Ryan going on those shows, showing off his physique, chatting about rock music and bowhunting and P90X? Why wasn’t he sent to college campuses? This was a terrible campaign that totally wrote off the youth vote.

rockmom on November 16, 2012 at 3:10 PM

We will never get more than 10% of the black vote of 30% of the Hispanic vote unless we out-pander the Dems. We will never get more than 25% of the Jewish vote unless we move to the left of the Dems. But, there is no reason we can’t get a higher percentage of the youth or the women’s vote (especially the married women’s vote).

bw222 on November 16, 2012 at 3:27 PM

“We have to start electing people who look like their communities all the way from city council to county commissioners to county clerks all the way through the state and up into national politics,” …

So, that means if your community is 95% caucasion all but 5% of the government positions should be taken by white folks, huh? Should we keep some sort of political quota, whereby if you’re the wrong color you shouldn’t be allowed to run within the party???
Or…. should we refuse to pander in Identity Politics and attempt to elect the person who is best qualified for the job regardless of skin tone.

I am soooooo over the GOP today. If this kind of crap is the best they have to offer as a path forward, that we should embrace the same shallow, pathetic manipulations as Democrats, then we really are finished. I would NEVER have guessed we’d be hearing this kind of idiocy from people like Bobby Jindal and Susanna Martinez. Unbelievable.

Murf76 on November 16, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Well, he did get elected president twice. Maybe he’s not such a moron after all.

KingGold on November 16, 2012 at 2:58 PM

.
Had willie the perv been able to resist the Lewinski- Ghore would have been 41- and probably for two terms.

We do have clinton to thank for something.

FlaMurph on November 16, 2012 at 3:28 PM

KingGold on November 16, 2012 at 3:20 PM

I guess Constitution Principles just won’t work? I guess we should compromise our principles and just start handing out cell phones? Compromising principles is what got us in this mess, continuing to compromise them will not get us out. That’s a Keynesian mindset.

dom89031 on November 16, 2012 at 3:28 PM

… but not at the expense of compromising our principles.

Otherwise we might just as well all become Democrats.

Lawrence on November 16, 2012 at 2:43 PM

.
Too late . . . . . : (

listens2glenn on November 16, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Listen up would be Peanuts Place kickers….. 6 million new hispanic voters is berry berry bad news any way you slice it.

Just try and hold on Texas for a little while longer, por favor.

FlaMurph on November 16, 2012 at 3:23 PM

Romney received 27% of the Hispanic vote. My guess is that the GOP will receive a much smaller percent of the illegal vote when/if they become eligible to vote.

bw222 on November 16, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Why couldn’t they at least have had Paul Ryan going on those shows, showing off his physique, chatting about rock music and bowhunting and P90X? Why wasn’t he sent to college campuses? This was a terrible campaign that totally wrote off the youth vote.

rockmom on November 16, 2012 at 3:10 PM

It was a very poorly run campaign. Honestly, it was run worse than McCain’s campaign.

With 50% unemployment for college grads, and millions of people under 30 unemployed or under-employed, to not have been competetive is inexplicable. Especially for a candidate that simply could not care less about social issues, and focused exclusively on fiscal issues.

milcus on November 16, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Well, he did get elected president twice. Maybe he’s not such a moron after all.

KingGold on November 16, 2012 at 2:58 PM

He’s successful at destroying the land.

The fools, from both sides, deserve him fully.

All who brung him, twice, may you be destroyed, in full.

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2012 at 3:31 PM

In my dictionary, “reaching out” is synonymous with “community organizing”.

Community organizing obviously worked for the libs; there’s no reason it wouldn’t work for conservatives.

EL on November 16, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Your enemies at the moment: Boehner and McConnell.

Focus, focus, focus.

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2012 at 3:33 PM

The Latino Gov. of New Mexico isn’t pushing an amnesty plan? I guess she doesn’t know how to appeal to Latinos, right Ed?

Let me repeat. Ed Morrissey is not a conservative. He never has been one and never will be one. He is an establishment Republican who receives his marching orders from the RNC.

bw222 on November 16, 2012 at 3:35 PM

I got the fix. Why don’t we all just run as democrats and blow up the gravy train from the inside? Before they catch on: we can buy votes wildly, start any war we want without congress, just be given the black vote for nothing, have the press in our pocket, and automatically be branded “tolerant” even if we maintain that gay marriage is a state issue! It is so full of WIN! Plus any stupid thing one of us says will just be deemed a “gaffe”! We will just put up a media caricature of a conservative to run against and then run the tables.

MechanicalBill on November 16, 2012 at 3:36 PM

Your enemies at the moment: Boehner and McConnell.

Focus, focus, focus.

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2012 at 3:33 PM

Don’t forget Eric Cantor. He’d screw us so fast our heads will be spinning. Eric even looks sleazy.

bw222 on November 16, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Seems to me like the republicans are toying with the same formula Europe used a generation ago. Back then, Europe made a grand bargain that they will never recover from. In order to support their socialist welfare state and because the citizens of those countries were not having babies, they imported immigrants (mainly muslim) from North Africa, Asia, etc. to be the worker bees to support all their social welfare programs. They also shunned the idea of nationalization and instead pushed for multi-culturism within the European Union as a recipe for co-existence with these immigrants. The end result? Take a look at France; a huge contingent of poor, unassimilated muslims who are restless, angry and will be the majority within 25 years. Europe is now paying the piper for the disaster they’ve created there.

So no, I’m not willing to pander against this country’s best interests so some people can stay in power and take us over the fiscal cliff a little slower than the other party.

KickandSwimMom on November 16, 2012 at 3:37 PM

There are 29 republican governors right now…I think 30 after the election.  People will vote republican.  In fact those 29 states account for 308 electoral votes—and that includes: Ohio, VA, PA, WI, FL, MI, NV….all states that republicans target and want.

Good, conservative, center-right, pragmatic governing wins on the state level…there is no reason it wont work on the national level.

joepub on November 16, 2012 at 3:39 PM

I like her but why couldn’t she carry her state? Why couldn’t all these other swing state Republican governors carry their states? McDonnell in VA, Kasich in OH, Walker in WI. Did Rubio help in Florida? At least Jindal carried his state.

The way you reach any reachable Blacks and Latinos is through education vouchers.

monalisa on November 16, 2012 at 3:40 PM

“New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez”

She expressed disdain for Romney’s claim this week on a conference call that Obama won reelection because he offered “gifts” to minorities and younger voters.

Obama “did” win reelection because he offered “gifts” to minorities and younger voters.

JAYTBMF on November 16, 2012 at 3:41 PM

ready and willing to work together on an attractive immigration solution

Erika – by “attractive” I hope you don’t mean any form of amnesty. Rewarding law-breakers with their ill-gotten goods will never work. It will only encourage the NEXT generation of law-breakers.

As a test, please cite an instance where rewarding the criminals with their ill-gotten goods has been attempted or even recommended in any form of human activity other than immigration. Certainly not in the fields of burglary and auto theft.

Common sense says that amnesty will never solve the problem – it will only encourage more of the same.

Attrition through enforcement is the most popular
, effective (when used!!), just, fair, legal, and economical solution. No deportations, no excitement — just gradual and steady self-deportation. See how it works in Georgia in this TV news video.

Note that Speaker Boehner, through Dave Camp and his Ways and Means committee, refused to hold a vote on HR 2885 (Mandatory E-Verify) after it passed Lamar Smith’s Judiciary Committee along party lines. Boehner is part of the problem – he doesn’t want enforcement — he wants to out-pander the Democrats!

fred5678 on November 16, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Why are you such a downer? They are trying to save the GOP, not the country, but the GOP and you’re bringing them down with petty things like math.

DFCtomm on November 16, 2012 at 3:21 PM

That seems to be a trade off many are willing to make. Power for the GOP and just toss those inconvenient conservative principles overboard.

sharrukin on November 16, 2012 at 3:46 PM

The way you reach any reachable Blacks and Latinos is through education vouchers.

monalisa on November 16, 2012 at 3:40 PM

That would probably be a good way to reach more Catholics, Lutherans ansd Evnagelicals too.

Romney missed a good chance to attack Obama during the debates. Obama kept talking about spending more on education. Romney should have pointed out that we spend more per capita on k-12 public education than anyone but the Swiss, yet our standardized scores are far below those of Ireland and Poland, which spend about one-third of what we do.

bw222 on November 16, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Otherwise we might just as well all become Democrats.

Lawrence on November 16, 2012 at 2:43 PM

That’s exactly what I intend to do. I’m voting Democrat from now on. I’m tired of waiting for the collapse! It’s time to get proactive.

DFCtomm on November 16, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Romney received 27% of the Hispanic vote. My guess is that the GOP will receive a much smaller percent of the illegal vote when/if they become eligible to vote.

bw222 on November 16, 2012 at 3:30 PM

40% of Hispanics want law enforcement and attrition through enforcement. 54% want amnesty.

Why do we only hear noise from so-called GOP pundits, Boehner, Newt, et al about the 54% who don’t respect our laws? Sure fire recipe to lose the Conservative base.

The GOP should appeal to the 40% who DO respect our laws and RETAIN the Conservative base.

fred5678 on November 16, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Ok, but Martinez and Jindal realize that in order to “go after every vote” you need to be honest about why people should vote for you?

right?

can’t have one without the other.

Joseph Russo III on November 16, 2012 at 3:55 PM

The DEMs have a no-friendly-fire pact.. and they keep to it.. seems our side could learn a lot from that given the fawning by the press every time they succeed in sparking an intra-party spat which is a multiple-times-a-day occurrence now.

gatorboy on November 16, 2012 at 2:50 PM

This!

I am beginning to think the reason the Republican party is shrinking is because the majority are either eunuchs or back stabbing biotches.

brtex on November 16, 2012 at 3:59 PM

I like Jindal and Martinez and I understand that they do not want to insult any potential voters, but I honestly do not think that most people are unaware of the fact that Obama bought votes…and a lot of people are fine with that.

They are being too defensive.

Terrye on November 16, 2012 at 4:01 PM

People seem to be missing the fact that Gov. Martinez thought she was a Democrat and was being courted to run for office as a Democrat, but when she met with the Republicans and they explained to her our conservative values and free market principles, while the Democrats only talked to her about tribal loyalty, she decided she was a Republican. She comes from an immigrant family who are exactly the types we all think are going to vote Democrat forever.

Somebody in New Mexico knew how to talk to her and win her over. Maybe we need to find those people and put them in charge of the RNC.

rockmom on November 16, 2012 at 4:01 PM

Somebody in New Mexico knew how to talk to her and win her over. Maybe we need to find those people and put them in charge of the RNC.

rockmom on November 16, 2012 at 4:01 PM

That is a good idea.

Terrye on November 16, 2012 at 4:02 PM

The DEMs have a no-friendly-fire pact.. and they keep to it.. seems our side could learn a lot from that given the fawning by the press every time they succeed in sparking an intra-party spat which is a multiple-times-a-day occurrence now.

gatorboy on November 16, 2012 at 2:50 PM

It has always been this way…the difference is now we have the internet and cable news and people talk about all this a lot. Republicans have always been more of an every man for himself kind of party. And I don’t mean that as an insult either. Democrats are more like the Borg.

The individual vs the collective.

Terrye on November 16, 2012 at 4:05 PM

From the headlines on Martinez:

In order to make inroads with minority voters—particularly Hispanics—Martinez urged Republicans to pursue immigration reform and to begin grass-roots outreach now instead of waiting until an election year to seek votes.

She has also decided to set up ObamaCare exchanges. She is not one of the Republican governors who is fighting back.

Here’s Martinez’ bio from Wiki:

July 14, 1959 (age 53)
El Paso, Texas, U.S.
Democratic Party (Before 1995)
Republican Party (1995–present)

I’m not from NM.
Does anyone know why she became a Republican?
Does anyone know what her political philosophy of the role of government is?

INC on November 16, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Sigh. I need to be pandered to.

Open borders, Justice Roberts, No Child Left Behind, massive increases in entitlements, huge deficit increases, six years in which the GOP controlled BOTH houses of congress and nothing to show for it – yes, Bush43 was a real genius.

bw222 on November 16, 2012 at 3:23 PM

And then there was that business about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that was hung around the GOP’s neck. Oh, and we lost Congress in 2006 to Nancy and Harry. Oh, and the financial collapse, too. I think Hank Paulson (R – Goldman Sachs) was at Treasury during that whole ordeal. And before that it was “Brownie” at FEMA during hurricane Katrina which was played up as a Bush-led holocaust against black people. There was little push back on any of the above.

Yes, the Bush years were not kind to the GOP brand. Luckily for us, George P. Bush will be in politics soon to rehabilitate the Bush Family!

Happy! Happy! Joy! Joy!

Punchenko on November 16, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Martinez is a small minded nitwit who good fit in NM. She couldn’t get elected rag sorter anywhere else. Keep listening to these morons at your demise. Me tooism is BS. Our little girl is dating the loser and no amount of love is going to help. You just hope that she comes to her senses when she completely fails.

rik on November 16, 2012 at 4:15 PM

You can COUNT ME OUT of this STUPIDITY.

We have to go after “every single vote!”

Wahh!!

Bobby Jindal is absolutely the WORST possible candidate for the GOP to try to run. And, if you think of allowing that sleaze-bag con artist Rick Santorum again, FUGGEDABOUDIT.

Why are we thinking NOW about who will run in 2016?

Why are we capitulating to the LEFTIST MEME about the GOP being racist, minority averse, or whatever else the meme of the day happens to be? WE AREN’T ANY OF THOSE THINGS.

What we are is a party that should heed Craig Shirley’s recent advice in an oped addressing the fundamental values of this party. He should know.

Evangelicals are killing us; stop giving them power over the Republican Party. Start addressing a platform based on LIBERTY and SMALL GOVERNMENT, LOCALISM, and yes, even populism on some issues.

Evangelicals and “social” conservatives are nothing but BIG GOVERNMENT LEFTISTS–voters can see this, so they reject the hypocrisies of a party that claims to be for smaller government, but advocates for big government when it comes to social issues. Are we the party of LIBERTY or not?

Conservatives used to be the party that was against neo-liberal military adventurism; when did we decide to adopt leftist BIG GOVERNMENT intrusion around the world as our policy?

Susana Martinez isn’t the answer; conservatism based on liberty IS. Bobby Jindal isn’t the answer; policies that are CONSERVATIVE IS.

I’m disgusted by Dana Perino today. Just sayin.

mountainaires on November 16, 2012 at 4:26 PM

mountainaires on November 16, 2012 at 4:26 PM

another one who wants to use social conservatives as a scapegoat. so we have morals and values that aren’t the same as your morals and values? well fine, but don’t BLAME us. we always get the blame. there’s nothing wrong with social conservatives, all we do is have values that we don’t compromise because of political convenience.

Sachiko on November 16, 2012 at 4:49 PM

Saying you have to go after all the voters isn’t pandering. It’s just smart politics. Being Hispanic and a female will be tough for the other side to attack. Even with the help of their lapdog media to shill for them. Unlike blacks, who are willing to turn on black conservatives and call them Tom’s and porch monkey’s, Hispanics are not as quick to turn on their own who are conservative.

I had thought she would be good as a VP pick. Obviously, she scared the libtards with her speech at the convention, which is why they are focusing on her trying to figure out how to use their long knives on her. I will have to see more from her before I can say she is Prez material.However, she may be the answer at the top of the ticket.

Nikki Haley before Jinxdal.

Scott Walker before Christycreme.

I don’t trust Rubio.

In the ultimate betrayal, I personally think the Dems will nominate Preezy’s lil’ buddy Duval Parrick over Hillary for 2016 and she will have to settle for the VP spot.

Rockshine on November 16, 2012 at 4:50 PM

“In any compromise between food and poison, it is only death that can win. In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit. In that transfusion of blood which drains the good to feed the evil, the compromiser is the transmitting rubber tube …”

– Ayn Rand

ShainS on November 16, 2012 at 4:57 PM

Rockshine on November 16, 2012 at 4:50 PM

How about someone who just believes in the Constitution, someone like Justim Amash.

When asked by a New York Times reporter to describe his voting methodology, Justin explained: “I follow a set of principles, I follow the Constitution. And that’s what I base my votes on. Limited government, economic freedom, and individual liberty.”

You should check his website out.

http://amash.house.gov/

dom89031 on November 16, 2012 at 5:00 PM

I’m disgusted by Dana Perino today. Just sayin.

mountainaires on November 16, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Cute but not a big thinker.

slickwillie2001 on November 16, 2012 at 5:09 PM

With 50% unemployment for college grads, and millions of people under 30 unemployed or under-employed, to not have been competetive is inexplicable. Especially for a candidate that simply could not care less about social issues, and focused exclusively on fiscal issues.

milcus on November 16, 2012 at 3:30 PM

So, what you are saying here.. and not giving you the gears… is that people who are in a group of 50% unemployed, underemployed, etc, can’t somehow manage to learn who is running and what their policies are on their own?

We are expected to hold their hands and help them with the big words? These are people who are apparently educated?

It’s getting to the point where they are going to need to have their food cut and/or pre-chewed for them.

Why are we helping people be stupid and lazy?

kim roy on November 16, 2012 at 5:35 PM

blacks, who are willing to turn on black conservatives and call them Tom’s and porch monkey’s

Rockshine on November 16, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Toms? Yes, I have heard that. But your second invective I think comes from your own dark heart.

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on November 16, 2012 at 5:37 PM

And then there was that business about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that was hung around the GOP’s neck. Oh, and we lost Congress in 2006 to Nancy and Harry.

Punchenko

After pushing amnesty, ironically.

xblade on November 16, 2012 at 6:29 PM

Well, he did get elected president twice. Maybe he’s not such a moron after all.

KingGold on November 16, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Oh give us a break.

Obama bin Lyin just got elected POTUS for the 2nd time. He’s still a moron and a wannabe Marxist one at that.
Clintoon got elected twice. He’s still an adulterous scumbag.
FDR pulled in the national record of four consecutive wins – and he was STILL absolutely freaking clueless about economics.

Bush II was elected twice because he first faced off against the fat scam-runner Gore, and then because Port-a-John Kerry got swiftboated by veterans who were massively PO’ed with his lies.

MelonCollie on November 16, 2012 at 6:40 PM

We have to start electing people who look like their communities all the way from city council to county commissioners to county clerks all the way through the state and up into national politics

I guess I can’t vote for her if she runs for president or vp since she doesn’t look like my community. I had never given much thought to what a candidate looked like before casting my vote. Was more interested in what they stood for. I gotta get with the times.

Buddahpundit on November 16, 2012 at 10:10 PM

Evangelicals and “social” conservatives are nothing but BIG GOVERNMENT LEFTISTS–voters can see this, so they reject the hypocrisies of a party that claims to be for smaller government, but advocates for big government when it comes to social issues. Are we the party of LIBERTY or not?

mountainaires on November 16, 2012 at 4:26 PM

I’d like to give this the attention it deserves. Wait, I just did. In fact, way more attention than it deserves.

There Goes The Neighborhood on November 17, 2012 at 12:57 AM

We have to start electing people who look like their communities all the way from city council to county commissioners to county clerks all the way through the state and up into national politics

Uh…what? Is Martinez attempting to say we need to vote for people based on skin color? Because by golly, it certainly sounds that way.

To put it in her own words…

“That unfortunately is what sets us back as a party—our comments that are not thought through carefully,” she said. …

Governor…heal thyself.

lynncgb on November 17, 2012 at 8:14 AM

GOP continues its swirling down the crapper of history.

Mr. Arrogant on November 17, 2012 at 11:09 AM