If only more people would read that book.

gravityman on November 16, 2012 at 3:35 PM

The hour is very late.

Now opening a market on who will be blamed for it. Low window fees! And opening odds are even. :)

Axe on November 16, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Oh, there will be no doubt. The MSM and the democrat party (but I repeat myself) will promptly place the blame for this disaster on the obstructionist Republicans in the House. Said Republicans, in addition to the fact that the MSM won’t provide coverage for them, lacking testicular fortitude will grovel and apologize and be defeated in 2014. The democrat dream. Actually probably the Republican elite dream as well because then they can be rid of those pesky Tea Party representatives and can get their own squishes elected in 2016 when they mistakenly think they can take back the House from Pelosi.

Why do you think Pelosi is sticking around?

I’m so sick and tired of the term “fiscal cliff”; as if it is some surprise, precipitous drop.

We have seen this coming for years and have done nothing about it.

It’s been a long, downward slope. Not a cliff.

blatantblue on November 16, 2012 at 2:17 PM

If your characterization of the metaphor is right, I still think it’s a fiscal cliff. A whole lot of people are going to pedal air for a moment while gravity catches up with them, and their drop will be unexpected, sudden and precipitous.

Now opening a market on who will be blamed for it. Low window fees! And opening odds are even. :)

Ellis Wyatt’s note, left when he finally understood.

LegendHasIt on November 16, 2012 at 3:17 PM

If only more people would read that book.

Everybody get their 1966 Thunderbird Convertibles lined up and ready.

portlandon on November 16, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Can’t we keep the car and just throw Gina Davis and Susan Sarandon over the cliff?

I know, I know… Stay classy, lol.

I am leaving it as I found it. Take over. It’s yours.

Ellis Wyatt’s note, left when he finally understood.

Maybe it is more like 50 First Dates where every day a brain damaged congress wakes up and has no memory of the last several decades.

Lily on November 16, 2012 at 1:14 PM

FIFY. Otherwise, +100.

This is so simple.

Raise taxes on people earning over $1M dollars – on their dividend and capital gains to 35%, and on their income to 50%.

Straight and simple – hell GOP, the rich doesn’t think much of you anyway – what have you to lose.

Now you know that this will hurt the economy, but who has been screaming tax the rich, tax the rich!

Just do it. The economy will tank, and you eliminate the biggest prize the dems use to argue.

Zomcon JEM on November 16, 2012 at 2:12 PM

This. Exactly. The globalist super rich are not the proper consituency of American conservatives, and they have no problem screwing us, so we should be throwing them to their own Democrat dogs.

Our natural constituents are the small entrepreneurs who are the real job creators, and our natural constituents are the workers those job creators hire. They are the ones we should be fighting to protect, not the actual rich who just want to pull up the ladder so others cannot compete with them and take away their wealth.

to pitch his proposal to demand twice as much in new revenue, while postponing any spending cuts …

We’ve played this game before. Many times. They did it with Reagan, no cuts ever came. They did it with Bush I, cost him the election over his “no new taxes” pledge and the promised cuts never came. With the dems, it’s always “Tax increases now, spending cuts later”. Later never comes. If Boehner had a pair and some intelligence, he’d see this and both refuse to deal in this manner and be very vocal regarding why. Boehner has neither testicular fortitude nor great intellect, so I fear we are not going to be negotiating from a position of strength.

Decoski on November 16, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Well said!
I agree.

I’m so sick and tired of the term “fiscal cliff”; as if it is some surprise, precipitous drop.

We have seen this coming for years and have done nothing about it.

It’s been a long, downward slope. Not a cliff.

blatantblue on November 16, 2012 at 2:17 PM

I’m expecting more of an “earthshattering KABOOM!”

A one-time raise in the debt ceiling in exchange for sequestration and all these lovely taxes!

OK, the Democrats want it, let them have it.

Obama wanted it, he can have it.

Then it is up to Obama to produce a budget that stays under the debt ceiling.

A deal is a deal, after all.

It denotes this idea that it’s something we couldn’t help.

It’s dumb that we play into this linguistic canard.

blatantblue on November 16, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Would you prefer “fiscal iceberg”, with Messrs. Martian and Coyote saying, “Ramming speed!”? Cliffs are eminently avoidable; the fact we’re not avoiding this one speaks to the incompetence in DC.

It denotes this idea that it’s something we couldn’t help.

It’s dumb that we play into this linguistic canard.

I’m so sick and tired of the term “fiscal cliff”; as if it is some surprise, precipitous drop.

We have seen this coming for years and have done nothing about it.

It’s been a long, downward slope. Not a cliff.

blatantblue on November 16, 2012 at 2:17 PM

The direction may be downhill, but the bottom is about to drop out

We have seen this coming for years and have done nothing about it.

It’s been a long, downward slope. Not a cliff.

Raise taxes on people earning over $1M dollars – on their dividend and capital gains to 35%, and on their income to 50%.

Straight and simple – hell GOP, the rich doesn’t think much of you anyway – what have you to lose.

Now you know that this will hurt the economy, but who has been screaming tax the rich, tax the rich!

Just do it. The economy will tank, and you eliminate the biggest prize the dems use to argue.

If we put another two-year extension of this debate in place, we’ll see exactly the kind of decline in investor confidence we’ve seen for the past two years, plus set the table for yet another election-year round of Thelma and Louise-style brinksmanship at the edge of a “fiscal cliff.” That’s not wise policy. That’s just Looney Tunes. We need to finally solve this problem rather than postponing the inevitable.

We’re talking about President Marvin Martian and Senator Wile E. Coyote driving things on the far side., Unfortunately, we’re running a bit short on Bugs Bunny types.

Give me a list of bills he actually proposed to cut government. Show me where he turned down pork appropriations for his district. He talks good but I have not been convinced he walks what he talks.

chemman on November 16, 2012 at 2:04

From the web. I trusted the guy on his budget remarks and got killed on facts like these:

For FY 2011, Rep. Paul submitted requests for 41 earmarks worth $157,093,544. The previous year, he submitted 54 earmarks totaling a whopping $398,460,640, including $2.5 million for a redevelopment project in Baytown, Texas.

“Fiscal cliff” negotiations are akin to a Thelma and Louise trilogy

Forward!