Quotes of the day

posted at 10:47 pm on November 15, 2012 by Allahpundit

The polite praise initially showered upon Mitt Romney for having waged a good fight against President Obama has given way to a plea from some Republicans: Please stop talking.

A week after the election, as Republicans examine how to recalibrate and regain their footing, Mr. Romney’s suggestion that he lost the race because of the “gifts” that Mr. Obama gave to black, Latino and young voters did not sit well with some party leaders gathered here for a meeting of the Republican Governors Association.

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A handful of prominent Republicans criticized Mitt Romney for his disparaging remarks about President Barack Obama’s “gifts” to core constituencies, saying that it was the wrong message to send voters as the party tries to rebuild itself after a bruising defeat.

“I don’t think it’s helpful,” Iowa Gov. Terry Branstad told POLITICO at the Republican Governors Association conference on Thursday. “I guess my feeling is that we need to turn the page, and we need to focus on the future and not make excuses for the past.”

In Las Vegas to attend the RGA conference, Florida Gov. Rick Scott called Romney’s comments “inappropriate.”

“It’s wrong, it’s not true,” Scott told POLITICO, adding: “What we’ve got to do is say we want every vote, we want to take care of every citizen in our state.”

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“I don’t want to rebut him point by point,” Rubio said of Romney. “I would just say to you, I don’t believe that we have millions and millions of people in this country that don’t want to work. I’m not saying that’s what he said. I think we have millions of people in this country that are out of work and are dependent on the government because they can’t find a job.”

Rubio added that the economy is not producing jobs and many unemployed workers don’t have the required skills for vacant positions, “and therein lies the challenge for the conservative movement; how do our ideas help change that.”

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The White House today said Mitt Romney is “at odds with the truth” for the belief, as he told donors on a call, that “extraordinary financial gifts” from the administration to minority voters won the election for President Obama…

“Making it easier for Americans to go to college, that’s good for America. It’s good for all Americans. It’s good for the economy,” Carney said. “Making health care available to young people who can stay on their parents’ plans. That’s good for those families it’s good for those young people so they aren’t bankrupted in their 20s by an illness.

“The president pursues policies that have at their core a desire to build the middle class, strengthen the middle class, make the middle class more secure because that’s what makes America more secure,” said Carney. “It’s just not the view we take about the decision the American people made last week.”

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Most everybody agrees that Obama’s decision to exempt young illegal immigrants from deportation helped him win a massive victory among Latinos. But Romney’s inartful comment about “gifts” belies a more serious long-term problem for the GOP in appealing to Latinos.

The problem: Whether you call them “gifts” or “government services,” they are very popular with Latinos. And that doesn’t jibe with the core principles of the Republican Party…

This is a big reason why we’ve seen such a swift GOP backlash against Romney for his comments. The “47 percent” and “gifts” rhetoric can be hugely harmful to this effort, and Republicans want to put it behind them in a hurry.

The GOP may correct its course on immigration reform in the coming weeks and months; convincing Latinos to buy into its small-government philosophy will take considerably more time.

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The conference call underlined what I have been saying for well over a year: that Mr. Romney has no idea what conservatism offers 100 percent of Americans who believe that freedom leads to prosperity and centralized planning is a road to serfdom. That message led Margaret Thatcher to an unlikely victory in 1979 and Ronald Reagan to a historical landslide a year later. And if Mr. Romney believes that message is no longer relevant to Hispanics and African-Americans, he should’ve stayed in La Jolla to oversee the building of his car elevator.

The future belongs to conservatism. It’s time Republicans start electing leaders who actually believe it

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1. Stop looking backward. We have to boldly show what the future can look like with the free market policies that we believe in. Conservative ideals are aspirational, and our country is aspirational.

2. Compete for every single vote. The 47% and the 53%. And any other combination of numbers that adds up to 100 percent. President Barack Obama and the Democrats can continue trying to divide America into groups of warring communities with competing interests, but we will have none of it. We are going after every vote as we try to unite all Americans…

6. Quit “big.” We are not the party of big business, big banks, big Wall Street bailouts, big corporate loopholes, or big anything. We must not be the party that simply protects the well off so they can keep their toys. We have to be the party that shows all Americans how they can thrive. We are the party whose ideas will help the middle class, and help more folks join the middle class. We are a populist party and need to make that clear.

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Romney should have tied the “gifts” to the 16 trillion debt. $40,000 per young person, $130,000 per hispanic family.

monalisa on November 15, 2012 at 11:30 PM

That would be $52,401.24 for every man, woman, woe-is-me-man, and child in America…not counting unfunded liabilities. If we include those, then the number is somewhere between $326,594.79 and $733,046.40 for every man, woman, woe-is-me-man, and child in America depending upon which data you use.

So, for a Hispanic family of four – without unfunded liabilities, the total owed is $209,604.96. With UFL, it’s between $1,306,379.16 and $2,932,185.60.

Just between Obama’s speech at the DNC and the day the Obamabots reelected him, every American’s share of the national debt (w/o unfunded liabilities) increased by $544.66.

Resist We Much on November 15, 2012 at 11:46 PM

not like you need them for anything.

sesquipedalian on November 15, 2012 at 11:46 PM

Hunting, for food. Survival is really cool.

Schadenfreude on November 15, 2012 at 11:47 PM

What’s really happened here is that the Republican party has come up with a false narrative for why it lost, and is stubbornly sticking to it regardless of the facts at hand. The truth is that Romney understands what he was up against and Jindal DOES NOT. The Democrat has been bought and paid for and if Bobby Jindal thinks he can win an election without recognizing that sad fact he’s got another thing coming.

R. Waher on November 15, 2012 at 11:47 PM

Schadenfreude on November 15, 2012 at 11:27 PM

I hear you..:)

Dire Straits on November 15, 2012 at 11:47 PM

You don’t know what you said.

Schadenfreude on November 15, 2012 at 11:45 PM

that’s so deep, bro.

sesquipedalian on November 15, 2012 at 11:47 PM

I bet Obama, the sissy, has no clue how to handle a gun.

Schadenfreude on November 15, 2012 at 11:48 PM

that’s so deep, bro.

sesquipedalian on November 15, 2012 at 11:47 PM

It is, but you don’t get it.

I bet Obama doesn’t know how to fly either.

Schadenfreude on November 15, 2012 at 11:48 PM

not like you need them for anything.

sesquipedalian on November 15, 2012 at 11:46 PM

I thought you people cared about women. Guess not.

Women deserve to be armed and dangerous…and potential rapists deserve to be dead in the doorway.

Resist We Much on November 15, 2012 at 11:49 PM

OT: WTF!!!

Ugly on November 15, 2012 at 11:49 PM

not like you need them for anything.

sesquipedalian on November 15, 2012 at 11:46 PM

You know, the corollary to Heinlein’s comment that “an armed society is a polite society” is demonstrated by folks like sequi — “a liberal society is a bunch of crass @$$es.”

AZfederalist on November 15, 2012 at 11:49 PM

just be a sweetheart and drop’em off one day.

sesquipedalian on November 15, 2012 at 11:43 PM

Just leave the address and I’ll get to it. :)

Axe on November 15, 2012 at 11:50 PM

Hmmmmmmmmm…..Leon paying his respects,to the loss of life,
of wounded veterans,that have been hit by a train!

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta responds to train crash in Texas, says ‘his thoughts and prayers are with the families of the victims, with those injured in this incident, and with the entire community’ – statement via @NBCNews

31 secs ago by editor
==========================

Texas veterans parade train crash
*********************************

A float carrying veterans and their wives during a West Texas parade was struck by a train on Nov. 15, 2012, police said.

The parade was supposed to end at a “Hunt for Heroes” banquet before wounded service members were treated to a deer-hunting trip this weekend. – Midland Reporter-Telegram, AP
=============================================

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/texas-veterans-parade-train-crash

canopfor on November 15, 2012 at 11:51 PM

AZfederalist on November 15, 2012 at 11:49 PM

Doesn’t get Heinlein. Wouldn’t be a leftist gnat.

Schadenfreude on November 15, 2012 at 11:52 PM

Sorry, meant Democrat base.

R. Waher on November 15, 2012 at 11:53 PM

OT: WTF!!!

Ugly on November 15, 2012 at 11:49 PM

Ugly:Yup,unbelievable,and so sad!:)

canopfor on November 15, 2012 at 11:56 PM

So,your trying to rile up,Team Right over guns,in hopes of getting a
commenter to blow a gasket,with the ultimate goal,of getting them
banned!

Nice try!

canopfor on November 15, 2012 at 11:46 PM

i’m not interested in getting anyone banned.

sesquipedalian on November 15, 2012 at 11:58 PM

Still a ‘Jindalista’, but could the good Gov. of LA wait until Romney’s ”corpse’ is cold before attacking. kthxbai.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 16, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Women deserve to be armed and dangerous…and potential rapists deserve to be dead in the doorway.

Resist We Much on November 15, 2012 at 11:49 PM

you’ll find the baseball bat more satisfying anyway.

sesquipedalian on November 16, 2012 at 12:00 AM

when should we come to collect your guns?

sesquipedalian on November 15, 2012 at 11:29 PM

On the last day of your life.

VorDaj on November 16, 2012 at 12:01 AM

canopfor on November 15, 2012 at 11:51 PM

Midland’s about 90 minutes from here.
Sad. Prayers for all concerned.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 16, 2012 at 12:01 AM

Still a ‘Jindalista’, but could the good Gov. of LA wait until Romney’s ”corpse’ is cold before attacking. kthxbai.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 16, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Jindalista . . . Jindalista . . . it’s not bad . . .

“kthxbai” . . . probably some sort of weird Catholic Jew incantation . . .

Axe on November 16, 2012 at 12:02 AM

I bet Obama, the sissy, has no clue how to handle a gun.

Schadenfreude on November 15, 2012 at 11:48 PM

He does know how to walk and run them though.

VorDaj on November 16, 2012 at 12:03 AM

“The president pursues policies that have at their core a desire to build the middle class, strengthen the middle class, make the middle class more secure because that’s what makes America more secure,” said Carney.

Obama hates and avidly works to destroy the middle class.

Only fools are blinded and don’t realize this.

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2012 at 12:04 AM

Axe on November 16, 2012 at 12:02 AM

More like working with too many teenage ‘texters’.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 16, 2012 at 12:04 AM

VorDaj on November 16, 2012 at 12:03 AM

bah da bing! :)

Axe on November 16, 2012 at 12:04 AM

He does know how to walk and run them though.

VorDaj on November 16, 2012 at 12:03 AM

Mexico

He ran them via Libya straight into Hamas’ hands. They were used today on Israel. The stupid Jews voted en masse for him.

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2012 at 12:05 AM

Nice try!

canopfor on November 15, 2012 at 11:46 PM

Heh, indeed.

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2012 at 12:06 AM

The stupid Jews voted en masse for him.

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2012 at 12:05 AM

That’s because many Jews are liberals first-Jews second. MY parents were an anomaly.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 16, 2012 at 12:07 AM

you’ll find the baseball bat more satisfying anyway.

sesquipedalian on November 16, 2012 at 12:00 AM

I’d rather not have to get into hand-to-hand combat with a potential rapist.

Why are you deciding what I would find more satisfying or effective anyway? Why would you deny a woman the choice of self-defence options? Why should a potential rapist in my doorway (the only thing keeping him a “potential” rapist being a weapon) have more rights than a foetus in my uterus? Do I have less power to defend my vajayjay than to determine what is within my uterus?

Once again, you have proven once of my old truisms:

Progressives are only “pro-choice” when it comes to uteri, rectums, and pot.

Resist We Much on November 16, 2012 at 12:07 AM

you’ll find the baseball bat more satisfying anyway.

sesquipedalian on November 16, 2012 at 12:00 AM

You really don’t understand the real world, do you?

/don’t bother to answer, that was a rhetorical question; all of your postings here give ample evidence to the fact that you really don’t understand the real world.

AZfederalist on November 16, 2012 at 12:10 AM

That’s because many Jews are liberals first-Jews second. MY parents were an anomaly.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 16, 2012 at 12:07 AM

Leftists, alt.

They, the Ds of today are never truly liberal/progressive. Just look around.

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2012 at 12:10 AM

canopfor on November 15, 2012 at 11:51 PM

Midland’s about 90 minutes from here.
Sad. Prayers for all concerned.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 16, 2012 at 12:01 AM

annoyinglittletwerp:

To think these guys did tours,and come home and this happens,yeppers,sad indeed ALT:)

canopfor on November 16, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Tell you what–I agree with Romney on this one! What are Jindal and Rubio doing? Becoming Democrat Lite to pander for support from the free stuff crowd? How disappointing!!

AnnaS on November 16, 2012 at 12:11 AM

Loyalty is HUGE with me.These RePubes who feel the need to mouth off and throw Romney under the bus and not allow him to vent his loss wil ever win my vote. And that includes our perceived Hispanic savior, señor Rubio. I think we all now understand why Mitt did not pick Rubio. Marco is all about Marco. Mitt would never have been able to count on señor Rubio to have his back, unless it was holding a knife sticking out of it.

I guess that leaves Susana Martinez. I think she is a better fit anyway. She is female and Hispanic. That will be needed to counter the Duval Patrick/ Hillary Clinton ticket in 2016.

Rockshine on November 16, 2012 at 12:13 AM

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-15/philadelphia-fed-manufacturing-index-falls-to-10-7-from-5-7.html

Philadelphia Fed Manufacturing Index Falls to -10.7 From 5.7

VorDaj on November 16, 2012 at 12:14 AM

I’d rather not have to get into hand-to-hand combat with a potential rapist.

since the day my place was burglarized i’m dreaming about catching one in the act. but i digress.

Why are you deciding what I would find more satisfying or effective anyway? Why would you deny a woman the choice of self-defence options? Why should a potential rapist in my doorway (the only thing keeping him a “potential” rapist being a weapon) have more rights than a foetus in my uterus? Do I have less power to defend my vajayjay than to determine what is within my uterus?

Once again, you have proven once of my old truisms:

Progressives are only “pro-choice” when it comes to uteri, rectums, and pot.

Resist We Much on November 16, 2012 at 12:07 AM

i was pulling your leg. i couldn’t care less about your guns.

…so how do y’all feel about the fairness doctrine? it’s time!

sesquipedalian on November 16, 2012 at 12:14 AM

you’ll find the baseball bat more satisfying anyway.

sesquipedalian on November 16, 2012 at 12:00 AM

I’d rather not have to get into hand-to-hand combat with a potential rapist.
Resist We Much on November 16, 2012 at 12:07 AM

Read between the lines and you will understand what scuzz bucket is saying. Can we puhleez reinstate trollcot?

arnold ziffel on November 16, 2012 at 12:16 AM

…so how do y’all feel about the fairness doctrine? it’s time!

sesquipedalian on November 16, 2012 at 12:14 AM

Orwellian named. Democrats do that. That’s what they are.

VorDaj on November 16, 2012 at 12:17 AM

Anyone have any scoop on the RNC Chairman???..:)

Dire Straits on November 16, 2012 at 12:19 AM

…so how do y’all feel about the fairness doctrine? it’s time!

sesquipedalian on November 16, 2012 at 12:14 AM

I support fairness!

I think. I haven’t been able to define it properly yet.

Axe on November 16, 2012 at 12:20 AM

In regards to my previous comment – there is one exception:

Mary Katherine Ham

She is not lost. She is not lost at ALL!

The one person here with perspicacity and clarity of vision and an unerring sense of WHO the REALY ENEMY is!!

God Bless her!

williamg on November 16, 2012 at 12:20 AM

…so how do y’all feel about the fairness doctrine? it’s time!

sesquipedalian on November 16, 2012 at 12:14 AM

It’s unnecessary. We don’t live in a 2-3 network and AM radio world any longer. Besides, Progs can start as many radio and television shows as they want. Now, the fact that CurrentTV and what was the name of the failed radio network/station ? Something America? Seriously, I don’t remember. Anyhoo, you have all the opportunities that you want. The fact that they are not commercially-viable is really not something that the government is going to be able to fix.

You have plenty of forums to get your message out and I don’t even think the Court would uphold the FD now.

Resist We Much on November 16, 2012 at 12:21 AM

Rockshine on November 16, 2012 at 12:13 AM

I don’t know if it’s a matter of not letting him vent but the realization that anything he says is used by the Left to underscore their campaign rhetoric. You know, the 47% comment, out of context, on steroids. And when they do that, they then apply it to the Republican party in general, as done with Akin and Murdock. The Left has this down to an art form. I don’t think Gov. Romney even needs to try to explain. If the country can be where it is and still reelect that jackass, there can be no rationalization.

Cindy Munford on November 16, 2012 at 12:22 AM

that’s so deep, bro.

sesquipedalian on November 15, 2012 at 11:47 PM

Nah, this epitomizes “deep”:

at least i’m pretty.

sesquipedalian on November 15, 2012 at 3:40 PM

ROFL@a stupid and shallow lib like you!

Anti-Control on November 16, 2012 at 12:22 AM

I support fairness!

I think. I haven’t been able to define it properly yet.

Axe on November 16, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Definition – not moping about one Fox station against all the others.

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2012 at 12:23 AM

when should we come to collect your guns?

sesquipedalian on November 15, 2012 at 11:29 PM

Who is this we you are talking about. If they try to come for guns you certainly won’t be in the group that shows up at the door.

chemman on November 16, 2012 at 12:23 AM

No.. we want all the Axelrod sock puppets banned.

As for why Jindal and Rubio are doing what they are doing.

1. Jindal is totally the Tim Pawlentry of the 2016 base. He has alot support among the Ross Douhats of the world, but isn’t a big grassroots favorite. Someone convinced him that he needed to start his political campaign early to overcome that.

2. Rubio is fluffy so why exactly does it surprise you that he feels the need to provide empty statements about nothing.

Illinidiva on November 16, 2012 at 12:23 AM

From NBC’s exit polls, 81 percent of Obama voters cited Obama’s “caring” as a factor in their voting.

How is “caring” quantified in politics? Might it be benefits handed out?

81 percent of Obama voters also thought government should “do more to solve problems.”

How is that usually measured? Does government “solve problems” any other way than passing out cash to people who want or need it? (and not just the poor).

What major Democratic program has not involved making citizens more dependent or grateful to the Democratic Party?

tbrosz on November 16, 2012 at 12:24 AM

Keep Obama in prezadint, you know? He gave us a phone. He give us more.

The Rogue Tomato on November 16, 2012 at 12:25 AM

Definition – not moping about one Fox station against all the others.

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2012 at 12:23 AM

:) Then I’m in.

Axe on November 16, 2012 at 12:26 AM

…so how do y’all feel about the fairness doctrine? it’s time!

sesquipedalian on November 16, 2012 at 12:14 AM

Great idea! When do conservatives get equal time on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, the NYT, the LA Times, Newsweak, Time, etc.? … and that means in formulating the news stories and deciding what gets reported, not just a token conservative given 3 minutes to make a commentary followed by 15 minutes of liberals tearing him apart without the ability to respond.

AZfederalist on November 16, 2012 at 12:27 AM

you certainly won’t be in the group that shows up at the door.

chemman on November 16, 2012 at 12:23 AM

Someone has to hold the crapper.

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2012 at 12:27 AM

Resist We Much on November 16, 2012 at 12:21 AM

i’m kidding, man. let’s not begin debating either topic.

sesquipedalian on November 16, 2012 at 12:28 AM

sesquipedalian on November 16, 2012 at 12:28 AM

Just like a child. Make over the top comments and then say I didn’t mean it. Grow up.

chemman on November 16, 2012 at 12:33 AM

Republicans must now become Democrats to defeat the Bolsheviks. Bottom line, that’s where this is heading.

The Resolute Desk on November 16, 2012 at 12:34 AM

We hold the house. That, with the states, it is a fine redoubt. Just need to get rid of Mr. Baay-ner.

AshleyTKing on November 16, 2012 at 12:35 AM

let’s not begin debating either topic.

sesquipedalian on November 16, 2012 at 12:28 AM

Time for the affirmative action act!

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2012 at 12:36 AM

Republicans must now become Democrats to defeat the Bolsheviks. Bottom line, that’s where this is heading.

The Resolute Desk on November 16, 2012 at 12:34 AM

If I can re-write that without losing too much of the meaning as conservatives must now become progressives to defeat the socialists, I think I might just have to lose.

Axe on November 16, 2012 at 12:37 AM

Republicans must now become Democrats to defeat the Bolsheviks. Bottom line, that’s where this is heading.

The Resolute Desk on November 16, 2012 at 12:34 AM

I don’t agree, but it is true that GOPers do need to learn to talk to the “idiot” voting block better.

Yes, it’s more about messaging than it is the substance of the message i.e. if you’re a desperately horny guy looking to get laid by a known slut, is it generally the wisest approach to remind her that she is one while you’re making your moves on her?

Anti-Control on November 16, 2012 at 12:40 AM

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/11/15/harry-reid-regulations-have-nothing-to-do-with-killing-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-6513622

You have to be pretty bad if a comparison of you to Cthulhu offends Cthulhu. :)

(Just cleaning up.)

Axe on November 16, 2012 at 12:40 AM

Put a footnote here: Romney predicts that Dems 16 will move to add dental care to Obamacare.

kunegetikos on November 16, 2012 at 12:40 AM

when should we come to collect your guns?

sesquipedalian on November 15, 2012 at 11:29 PM

BWAHAHAHAhahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As though you would have the balls to try something like that.
Nah. You’d just send your national civilian security force – composed of inner-city gangbangers – to try to do it.

Gad! You anti-Americans are disgusting.

Solaratov on November 16, 2012 at 12:42 AM

Put a footnote here: Romney predicts that Dems 16 will move to add dental care to Obamacare.

kunegetikos on November 16, 2012 at 12:40 AM

Great, now we can really become like the Brits. /s

I’m thinking they move to food or housing next. After all, most people don’t need medical care all that often, but they do need food and housing daily. How fair is it that they can’t afford the food or housing they want?

AZfederalist on November 16, 2012 at 12:45 AM

Romney is right about Obama’s “gifts” to important constituencies, although how his seeking no tax hike for the upper bracket isn’t the same thing isn’t clear to me.

El Cabong on November 16, 2012 at 12:45 AM

That’s because many Jews are liberals first-Jews second. MY parents were an anomaly.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 16, 2012 at 12:07 AM

One of the jobs I had going through college was at a shul (synagogue, for those of you in the Ozarks), an Orthodox one, actually. I was, as we all joked back then, the token goy (non-Jew), my boss there being a Mossad retiree, a very serious guy. There were a good percentage of liberals there, but the vast majority were conservatives politically, I’d guess 70-30 conservatives. But they all supported Israel, and with a passion, and I can’t imagine that more than a handful of them support Obama, today.

So, I’ve long suspected that the Jewish support for libs more than likely comes from the Conservative (doesn’t mean conservative in the political sense, folks, quite the contrary) and Reformist branches.

Even then, like you say, many are libs first, to hell with their religion and its principles. That they can’t understand that the Dems today are Hitlers in sheep’s clothing remains still a mystery to me.

TXUS on November 16, 2012 at 12:48 AM

We are a polarized nation and we’re finding it harder to get along all the time. The Republican party suffered a defeat and it’s having one hell of an introspection and some infighting. Of course, guys like Jindal and Rubio are being opportunists with their ‘Et Tu Brute’ acts as of late. They need to cut it out.

The Dems divided us and then conquered us. Too many of us stayed home and now we’re cannibalizing each other. It’s not helpful. Romney is right, he’s the victim of clienteleism and identity politics. The fact is, as long as they run a charismatic black guy who’s promising the free sh!t army everything, we may never win. People are idiots and they vote skin color, sexuality and with their private parts. Democrats are great at exploiting these morons. Unlike us, they’ve also been effective at keeping solidarity in their ranks.

We need to get our sh!t together and stop stabbing each other in the back. That means Jindal, Rubio and Christie need to start and STFU ASAP.

Corporal Tunnel on November 16, 2012 at 12:55 AM

Romney is right about Obama’s “gifts” to important constituencies, although how his seeking no tax hike for the upper bracket isn’t the same thing isn’t clear to me.
El Cabong on November 16, 2012 at 12:45 AM

Wow, just wow. Stealing more money from producers, to give more to the moochers is equivalent?

Taking more money away from anyone is a gift?

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2012 at 12:56 AM

So, I’ve long suspected that the Jewish support for libs more than likely comes from the Conservative (doesn’t mean conservative in the political sense, folks, quite the contrary) and Reformist branches.

Even then, like you say, many are libs first, to hell with their religion and its principles. That they can’t understand that the Dems today are Hitlers in sheep’s clothing remains still a mystery to me.

TXUS on November 16, 2012 at 12:48 AM

There’s stuff on that over on frontpagemag.com. I checked my bookmarks earlier for one article in particular that was basically “Why Do Jews Vote Democrat?” — but it hasn’t survived. The author was talking about conservative and liberal Jews on certain social issues, abortion in particular, and how he believed they would literally choose a permanent pro-choice political structure to Israel as a nation state.

Wish I could find it. :(

Axe on November 16, 2012 at 12:59 AM

Romney is right about Obama’s “gifts” to important constituencies, although how his seeking no tax hike for the upper bracket isn’t the same thing isn’t clear to me.

El Cabong on November 16, 2012 at 12:45 AM

What? Not seeking to take more money from those who already pay at a higher rate is the same as taking money from taxpayers and giving it to those who don’t pay taxes? This does not make a shred of sense. The top tax bracket is already 35% for anything over $379K, it’s 33% for anything over $174K. People who make less than that pay: 10% on taxable income over $8.5K; 15% on the amount over 8.5K and below $34.5K, 25% on amounts up to $83.6K, and 28% on amounts up to $174K. So, the rich are already paying their “fair” share, if by “fair” you mean a higher percentage of their income, not just a greater amount. So, by not seeking a tax hike on those in the upper bracket, you must think that an even greater percentage of those folks’ income above the greater percentage they already pay is somehow a “fairer” “fair” share?

/Capital gains is a different animal; taxes have been paid already on the money invested and really would be penalizing those who are investing in growing the eoconomy.

AZfederalist on November 16, 2012 at 1:03 AM

After watching the Jindal interview and not just reading the MSM excerpts, I agree with Jindal 100%.

Romney really doesn’t understand how to say things properly. It’s a huge defect. It’s possible to say Obama used the power of incumbency to enact policies that favored his key constituencies, which of course every president does, without suggesting that minorities’ votes were bought and that somehow makes this election illegitimate.

He needs to admit that our people stayed home, and he was the reason.

rockmom on November 16, 2012 at 1:04 AM

Axe on November 16, 2012 at 12:59 AM

I am no anti-semite and I most certainly support Israel, but I’ve heard Liberal Jews don’t like Evangelicals and that’s why they won’t vote for Republicans.

I think they also believe that Democrats care about Israel too and that it doesn’t matter which party is in power.

Corporal Tunnel on November 16, 2012 at 1:07 AM

Is Guadalupe here sesquipedalian? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxEes3_wEmU

Anti-Control on November 16, 2012 at 1:07 AM

I am no anti-semite and I most certainly support Israel, but I’ve heard Liberal Jews don’t like Evangelicals and that’s why they won’t vote for Republicans.

I think they also believe that Democrats care about Israel too and that it doesn’t matter which party is in power.

Corporal Tunnel on November 16, 2012 at 1:07 AM

I dunno. I can’t find the particular, blasted article that’s on my mind. :) Now that you mention it, I remember the suspicion of Evangelicals too — I’d say more of a prejudice. But the existence of Israel was about as important to them, according to that article, as it would be to Hillary, so if that’s “caring” –

Axe on November 16, 2012 at 1:13 AM

It’s one thing to say Romney shouldn’t say these things, but has anyone alleged or pointed out a single thing he has said which was untrue?

Adjoran on November 16, 2012 at 1:16 AM

After watching the Jindal interview and not just reading the MSM excerpts, I agree with Jindal 100%.

Romney really doesn’t understand how to say things properly. It’s a huge defect. It’s possible to say Obama used the power of incumbency to enact policies that favored his key constituencies, which of course every president does, without suggesting that minorities’ votes were bought and that somehow makes this election illegitimate.

He needs to admit that our people stayed home, and he was the reason.

rockmom on November 16, 2012 at 1:04 AM

This is what I was getting at when I talked about messaging above. When you are trying to make a sale, you do well for yourself to get the potential buyer to like you, and you usually aren’t going to accomplish that by being negative toward her or him.

Mitt is a intelligent technocrat who unfortunately doesn’t understand the emotional side of the average human being very well, and it hurt him.

Anti-Control on November 16, 2012 at 1:21 AM

Truth nowadays is not as important as messaging in such a way to avoid the wrath of our corrupt legacy media overlords.

d1carter on November 16, 2012 at 1:25 AM

This Site – all of the fakes putting posts on it, and all of the maddened terriers posting comments are all so, so LOST!!!

Lost in a cloud of Onanism, Self-Absorption and Narcissism…….

williamg on November 15, 2012 at 11:33 PM

It’s been a long day. Can someone be kind enough to translate this for me? Thanks in advance.

kim roy on November 16, 2012 at 1:29 AM

This thread gives a whole new meaning to the word ‘the’.

SparkPlug on November 16, 2012 at 1:30 AM

Hi y’all.

Just dropping in to inform everyone here that I’m going Galt. I’m going to worry about taking care of myself & my family. I suggest everyone else do the same because this is nothing but kabuki theater/bread & circuses. I’m not participating any more & I’m certainly not funding it with taxes.

Good luck to all of you.

Dark Star on November 16, 2012 at 1:31 AM

It’s been a long day. Can someone be kind enough to translate this for me? Thanks in advance.

kim roy on November 16, 2012 at 1:29 AM

If you look up “Onanism” — as I had to — the confusion just deepens. :)

Axe on November 16, 2012 at 1:32 AM

not like you need them for anything.

sesquipedalian on November 15, 2012 at 11:46 PM

Typical lib trying to get something for nothing. Go buy your own.

But yeah, it would be worth the price of admission to watch you try to take guns away from po’d repubs.

kim roy on November 16, 2012 at 1:32 AM

I agree with Jindal.

We need to be smarter and less stupid. More brainy and less tardly.

We just need to stop being morons and idiots and use our brains more often. Its not smart to be stupid and its stupid to not be smart.

SparkPlug on November 16, 2012 at 1:33 AM

Dark Star on November 16, 2012 at 1:31 AM

Good on you and all the best!

Schadenfreude on November 16, 2012 at 1:34 AM

I also think we need to try to win more elections.

SparkPlug on November 16, 2012 at 1:35 AM

I also think we need to try to win more elections.

SparkPlug on November 16, 2012 at 1:35 AM

You’re like some kind of anti-madness pill. :) Without you, I think I would just rave while Dire played music.

Axe on November 16, 2012 at 1:40 AM

Truth nowadays is not as important as messaging in such a way to avoid the wrath of our corrupt legacy media overlords.

d1carter on November 16, 2012 at 1:25 AM

I disagree with this assessment, see it as counterproductive, and say that it contributes to why the GOP doesn’t do better with minorities – when you approach them with such an adversarial and negative mindset, you are operating as a defeatist, and you’re guaranteeing yourself a loss before you even start. Jack Kemp’s positive and constructive attitude was better this way than Mitt’s was.

No, this isn’t about valuing messaging above the truth at all. Bounce this off of a successful and honorable salesperson sometime if you don’t believe that I know what I am talking about here.

Anti-Control on November 16, 2012 at 1:41 AM

you’ll find the baseball bat more satisfying anyway.

sesquipedalian on November 16, 2012 at 12:00 AM

…what kind of lubrication do you put on it?
…which end do you use?

KOOLAID2 on November 16, 2012 at 1:45 AM

Axe on November 16, 2012 at 1:40 AM

Well I’m doing a test run trying to get a gig as a GOP insider consultant type think-tank person.

SparkPlug on November 16, 2012 at 1:45 AM

He needs to admit that our people stayed home, and he was the reason.

rockmom on November 16, 2012 at 1:04 AM

Have to disagree. Romney may be clumsy or a RINO, but he was better in a lot of ways, not just economic than Obama. That was the choice him or another four years of Obama.

If that’s not enough for conservatives to come out and vote, then that’s just too bad and they have to own it. I refuse to blame Romney for being Romney. He shouldn’t have been the nominee, but he was and people have to live with it and ensure that another RINO or “next in line” doesn’t get nominated if that’s the issue.

It will baffle me to my end day that conservatives would rather see another four years than Romney. No reason, knowing what we know of Obama and after transmitting to Vlad and Benghazi is sufficient, imho.

kim roy on November 16, 2012 at 1:47 AM

Hey, maybe Romney is doing this on purpose, to allow potential nominees to distance themselves from him to show that the GOP is moving on and “learning.” At least that’s what I want to believe.

SAZMD on November 15, 2012 at 11:22 PM

Who knows but either way He and Rush are exactly right.

We’re not going to get anywhere lying to ourselves. GOP needs to grow a pair and start speaking the truth, while at the same time aggressively outreaching to voters to persuade them we are the Only positive path forward. What the F do we have to lose at this point?

jaygatz33 on November 16, 2012 at 1:47 AM

If you look up “Onanism” — as I had to — the confusion just deepens. :)

Axe on November 16, 2012 at 1:32 AM

No, I think we’ve been vaguely and incoherently insulted.

Masturbatory dog-like yapping in our own shallowness. Or something like that. It would have been a good one had it not been rambling and incoherent.

kim roy on November 16, 2012 at 1:50 AM

Masturbatory dog-like yapping in our own shallowness. Or something like that.

kim roy on November 16, 2012 at 1:50 AM

Not. Helping. Me. :(

Axe on November 16, 2012 at 1:53 AM

Not. Helping. Me. :(

Axe on November 16, 2012 at 1:53 AM

YMMV. A good insult should not be hard to figure out and be somewhat linear.

Long day for you too?

kim roy on November 16, 2012 at 1:54 AM

Well I’m doing a test run trying to get a gig as a GOP insider consultant type think-tank person.

SparkPlug on November 16, 2012 at 1:45 AM

I thought about putting in a think tank. But then I though, “Meh.”

*yawn*

Meh.

*poof*

Axe on November 16, 2012 at 1:55 AM

He needs to admit that our people stayed home, and he was the reason.

rockmom on November 16, 2012 at 1:04 AM

Actually Romney now has more votes than McCain did in 2008 and the counting isn’t done. He also won the over 30 vote, won indies and even won the white youth vote.

He lost because the GOP have acted like squishes for decades when it comes to the media painting us as racist sexists. No surprise we get beat big when it comes to minority vote.

Being a reactionary PC squish like Jindal isn’t going to do $hit at the end of the day. We have to take on the media and Dems at every chance to push back one day at a time on this false perception of the GOP as coldhearted men who hate minorities.

jaygatz33 on November 16, 2012 at 1:56 AM

Long day for you too?

kim roy on November 16, 2012 at 1:54 AM

*unpoof*

O yeah. If there was one ATP left in my system, I’d tell you. :)

*repoof*

Axe on November 16, 2012 at 1:57 AM

…so how do y’all feel about the fairness doctrine? it’s time!

sesquipedalian on November 16, 2012 at 12:14 AM

Great idea! When do conservatives get equal time on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, the NYT, the LA Times, Newsweak, Time, etc.? … and that means in formulating the news stories and deciding what gets reported, not just a token conservative given 3 minutes to make a commentary followed by 15 minutes of liberals tearing him apart without the ability to respond.

AZfederalist on November 16, 2012 at 12:27 AM

..thank you AZ!…and most of those that you just mentioned have corporate business parents that supplement them to keep them going…because they can’t turn a profit on their own…we need to start going after their parents!
…effect their bottom line so they have to make the puppets pay their own way and see what happens!

KOOLAID2 on November 16, 2012 at 1:59 AM

Frank Luntz (I know)said something interesting on Hannity the other day. I’m paraphrasing but it was something like -conservatives need to shake the *uncaring* label. Luntz used the town hall debate as an example. He said when that college student was worried about finding a job after he graduated that Romney shouldn’t have gone right into his talking points. Instead, he should have showed caring by asking, What degree are you going after? What sort of job are you wanting? And then Luntz said Romney should have used the word *imagine*. Imagine a country where…. Imagine a job market like…
That sounds much more effective. I know Luntz is often a dunce but…every once in a while…

AZgranny on November 16, 2012 at 2:01 AM

*unpoof*

O yeah. If there was one ATP left in my system, I’d tell you. :)

*repoof*

Axe on November 16, 2012 at 1:57 AM

Maybe when you’re up for it. ;)

kim roy on November 16, 2012 at 2:04 AM

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